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Who Will Take Down Sheamus?

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Klown_Karnage

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Hey folks. Here's a little something to think about:

I've been reading a lot about the dissatisfaction in Sheamus as a champion and I quite agree. I think he's there to set up someone (and not necessarily John Cena) to look really good and really welcome in the process of defeating him and knocking him down from the top where he had no right to be (at least not yet.) From what I've seen, they've brought forth his championship reign as well as his ability to keep it somewhat the way that they had Santino as Intercontinental Champion the last time: gaining it through a fluke and keeping it through disqualifications and dumb luck. The difference between the two being that Sheamus has infinitely less personality and, I'll concede, more physical dominance. Still, I think it fair to say that he's going to get knocked back down sooner or later. So I have two questions to ask the Wrestlezone populace:

Firstly, who do you think should yank the strap away from Sheamus?

Secondly, who do you think will yank the strap away from Sheamus?

In my opinion, the person who should take the championship away from him is Shawn Michaels. He hasn't been champion in some time, he's consistently interesting (particularly now) in terms of story, he's a well-established wrestler already, and is also not one of the usual crowd of huge, muscle-bound ken dolls that have been holding the WWE championship thus far. We need a little variety and I think a lighter and faster champion will do the trick. Kofi Kingston could pull it off, but I think the WWE already has other plans for him and there's another way I'd like to see him get his first main event championship run.[*See Footnote]

On the other hand, who I think will eventually take the championship from Sheamus is pretty obvious. Sheamus is Triple H's workout buddy, more than likely got where he is through Trip's influence, and the two of them are probably working on several matches already. I'd conclude that Triple H has an ulterior motive working, building Sheamus up so that he will look infinitely greater and more dominant when he wins the championship off of him. Maybe he's even planning on keeping the tag-team championship run going as well just so that he can have another double championship run. (I seem to recall he once held both the WHC and the IC at the same time.)

So what do you all think? Who is going to be the one to slay the Celtic Warrior?

*I believe Kofi Kingston should win Money in the Bank at Wrestlemania. More believable for him to get the championship that way.
 
I for one am pretty darn glad with how the triple threat match plan worked out on monday night. I don't really have any beef with Kofi..but he's as vanilla as Cena is. I really don't see how he can match in a match w/both Cena and Orton especially since he's been jobbing quite a bit lately. Especially in such a fickle crowd like Minneapolis where fan faves tend to draw quite a bit of heat. I think this having Orton SHOULD yank the strap from the Albino champ, and that he WILL yank it from the albino. This being said only to set it up for Dibiase to win RR, just to go on to WM26 and settle their supposed storyline that's coming up. But then again, in the words of Dennis Miller..."That's just my opinion..I could be wrong." :lmao:
 
to your 1st question i think orton should beat him at the rumble. i like sheamus and i loved his feud with goldust in ecw i just feel it was way too early to have him be a mainevent champion. he doesnt get the heat a heel champ needs to get and i really dont think he should hold the title going into mania. like someone said in another thread about the botch ending with orton and kofi, kofi will most likely interfer and allow sheamus to win. has he even gotten a pin fall victory over a challenger as champ?? i dont think so and its making him look like a weak champs

it seems that HHH will face Sheamus for the title at mania and of course win. sheamus just isnt ready to be in that big of a match. dont get me wrong i love the guy he just hasnt been in the wwe long enough for me to take him serious as a champion.

and yes kofi should win MITB this year and hopefuly cash it in at mania (i just really want to see some1 do that, talk about making an impact)
 
I think there are two possible scenarios:

1. Orton beats Sheamus @ the Royal Rumble, and DiBiase wins the rumble. This sets up the feud we all expect between Orton/DiBiase.

2. Sheamus beats Orton (or wins a triple threat match Cena has managed to insert himself into) and HBK wins the rumble. This would allow DX to go their seperate ways for a while-HBK would use the rumble win to challenge the Undertaker, and HHH could start a feud with Sheamus. He could do this by winning the title at the Elimination Chamber PPV.

Even if the Orton/Dibiase scenario plays out, Sheamus and HHH could still feud. They could both be in EC, and HHH could do something Sheamus perceives as costing him the title. If the 2nd scenario plays out, you would have to do something with the tag titles. DX could lose them, whether fairly or unfairly (or maybe by either HHH or HBK turning on the other), or DX could just forefit them, and there could be a tournament with the young teams that culminates at Wrestlemania (which could turn out to be the best thing for the future). This could also create the possibility of a 3rd scenario: Orton loses the title (or never gets it), Legacy wins the tag titles, and they turn on Orton, saying he is a "loser" because they have gold and he does not. Orton could become somewhat of a face, or the badass type of face at least.
 
I was excited that Orton won the triple threat. I think he should and will defeat Sheamus at the Rumble. Orton is the logical choice to go into Wrestlemania as the champion. Surely Sheamus cannot main event the biggest PPV of the year and I for one wouldn't want to see him go against Triple H anyway. I would much rather like to see Ted go against Randy even though I think it is too early for Ted to win the Rumble or main event Wrestlemania. Orton is the perfect choice to beat Sheamus and now that their match is confirmed I doubt that Sheamus will beat him clean.
 
As much as I hate to say it Orton will not win the belt at the Rumble. Even though Vince has said it is not written in stone, I still see Orton/Dibiase at Mania, and not for the belt. There will be to much personal factors in this feud for a belt to be thrown into it(not that I wouldn't want to see that factor into a belt).

Now back on topic, I think HHH will be the one to take the title from him. HBK will be fighting Taker again and probably for the belt. So that leaves HHH to do nothing at Mania other than have a feud for the title. HHH and Sheamus will feud starting in St Louis at the Chamber PPV, and continue to Mania.

HBK wins the Rumble cause Taker is not going to accept this week, He is going to tell him to earn the spot.
 
Firstly, who do you think should yank the strap away from Sheamus?

randy orton perhaps, or some other kind of main eventer thats fairly fitting, except for john cena cause it would just be causing a bad circle of regaining and losing for cena, which would cause yet another stale phase for cena.

Secondly, who do you think will yank the strap away from Sheamus?

triple H perhaps, considering there's been some reports that sheamus will be facing triple H at wrestlemania i believe i read once, so honestly i think it will be him.
 
Well, for the first time in a long time I am more than mildly interested in a match for the WWE Title, I think Orton vs Sheamus is actually very compelling.

I also think, and hope Orton is the man to take the belt from Sheamus, Royal Rumble is a good PPV for unproven draws to have championship matches because the Royal Rumble is the draw, Hardcore Holly and Mark Henry have had title matches there. I still think it'll be Orton because I cant see Sheamus getting any closer to WrestleMania with the belt than that.

Besides, if Orton beats Sheamus that means he's done what Cena couldnt, which opens a whole load of new doors for Cena vs Orton, and we all know WWE wont let that one die.
 
Many great ideas here, many bad ones also.
I am excited to see Orton/Sheamus at the Rumble. It's not often you see a heel/heel match for the title or any other reason. And I think Orton will take the strap from him.

Personally I don't mind Sheamus but like a many other I do think it is a little early for him. He will one day be a true main-eventer. Aside of being albino (that was really funny btw) he does have the look and the build to be a champ but as far as RAW is concerned he hasn't proven himself. Since winning the strap the only person I remember him winning cleanly over was Evan Bourne when he stood up to him, but it was a non-title match. The stipulation was IF Bourne won he got a title match.

I think it will and should be Orton. But if he is going to face Dibiase at WM he will lose the title to someone before them. DX will not forefit the tag titles and Dibiase will not win the Rumble. DX will hold onto the tag-titles for awhile unless they split up... Seriously who will they lose them to? The Hart Dynasty with interference by Jericho?
Whatever back on topic! I was disappointed with how the match ended but I am glad Orton won the triple threat and because the WWE kind of backed themselves into a corner with Orton not getting a title shot as long as Cena was champ, he HAD to lose it to SOMEONE. Unless something completely unexpected happens next Monday (which has been known to happen). Orton should be champ again.
 
i think orton should beat him at the rumble.
Me too, I hope Orton takes the strap and Sheamus (with nothing to do) fades into obscurity. Therefore, I would like Ted Dibiase Jr. to win the Rumble setting up a face turn in the near future setting up a feud between Randy/Cody and Dibiase. If they're planning on doing it now might be the best time.
 
For me the obvious answer to who will take down Sheamus and win the WWE title we be none other than Vinny's son-in-law HHH. I can just see HHH main eventing WM YET again for the 9th time in the last 11 years, (1 of which was because he was injured WM 23). Personally the man who i think derseves a title shot should be the Miz. Miz has come a very long way from where he was both in the ring and on the mic. My vote for who deserves it shoule be the Miz but in REALITY it'll just be HHH again.
 
I think kofi should win it from him because he deserves a title run. alot of people stil question his ability to be a main eventer and theres realy no better way to find out then to giv a guy a run and see if the fans will get behind him. Plus if they dont ever give kofi a shot then his "push" was nothing more then something for orton to do until he got back in the title picture.
That being said I think hhh will take the belt off of him at wrestlemania if the rumored card for the event is true.
Finally I want to say can we please stop with this crap that sheamus doesnt belong at the top. Its old and unoriginal. Two months ago it made sense but at this point its just old. If he beats orton at the rumble are you guys still goin to complain? When does he get some credit for being champ?
 
Finally I want to say can we please stop with this crap that sheamus doesnt belong at the top. Its old and unoriginal. Two months ago it made sense but at this point its just old. If he beats orton at the rumble are you guys still goin to complain? When does he get some credit for being champ?

When he defeats top level talent. He never pinned Cena; in the rematch, he couldn't beat him; and has faced no one since for the title. Oh, he beat Jamie Noble, Golddust, and Evan Borne...come on!!! Beat someone with ring cred, then he'll earn some respect. Not to sound mean, I like Sheamus; but I don't like the protecting him the WWE is doing by not giving him matches. Let him fight!!

I hate Cena, but he did have a point with calling Sheamus an "Albino Chia Pet"

Now to the thread. Who should win-Orton. But I don't see this happening at the Rumble. I see Dibiase "accidently" costing him the title by interference. Thus, the feud starts.

Who will win-Like most of you have already said, HHH at Wrestlemania. But, after a big win on Shawn Michaels part by ending the streak of the Undertaker that HHH couldn't do, earning a title shot at the next PPV.

---As far as the Money in the Bank match, Kofi fucked up on Raw big time by changing the ending of the triple threat match, so I don't see a bright future right now for him. I say it would come down to Drew MacIntyre and the Miz with Drew being more sneaky and winning.
 
I think kofi should win it from him because he deserves a title run. alot of people stil question his ability to be a main eventer and theres realy no better way to find out then to giv a guy a run and see if the fans will get behind him. Plus if they dont ever give kofi a shot then his "push" was nothing more then something for orton to do until he got back in the title picture.
That being said I think hhh will take the belt off of him at wrestlemania if the rumored card for the event is true.
Finally I want to say can we please stop with this crap that sheamus doesnt belong at the top. Its old and unoriginal. Two months ago it made sense but at this point its just old. If he beats orton at the rumble are you guys still goin to complain? When does he get some credit for being champ?

this isn't the time to throw the strap on Kofi. gimmick wise, he's stale and he's lost the fans he had. he's not getting the pop he used to. i was hoping Orton would win because a heel/heel match is interesting. last one was at the Rumble in 01 i think? HHH vs. Angle for the WWF title.

who SHOULD beat Sheamus? i'll say Orton and i'll say he still beats him. Sheamus can't lose the title to Kofi because Kofi is not yet established and even though Sheamus is the WWE champ, neither is he. it's like throwing 2 amateurs in a match. Cena can't win it because it'll be Staleamania. Orton can win it and probably lose it soon after because of DiBiase which triggers the feud. i don't think DiBiase wins the Rumble because it'll be a weak main event for the WWE title. the most logical sense would be for Cody to throw out Ted and causing friction, then Ted goes after Orton. it'd kinda make sense for Orton to drop it too because an established guy beats Sheamus and Orton dropping the belt could free him up for a DiBiase feud. who beats Orton? no idea as of now, maybe a triple threat with DX and HHH wins or somethin, which causes them to break up. lots of ways to go w/ this
 
I believe that in order to not make it look like a squash match, and have Sheamus lose all credibility, (assuming 'Trips wins the Rumble) Orton should have a good back and forth match with Sheamus where Dibiase screws Orton, and Triple H will face him at WM26, so that he at least gains some cred w/ the fans.

However, I believe Orton will win to gain a familiar championship picture. I don't know what big name (who won the Rumble this year) would face Orton at WM26 that hasn't yet. Saying that, I would have to say that HBK and 'Taker would be the last two, with 'Taker winning the Rumble. Thus, setting up Orton vs. 'Taker at WM26. Then, through the month's, HBK will get himself into the match, and set up the Rematch between him and Undertaker in a Triple threat match. I don't have any prediction who would win that.

*Yes, I know Undertaker is in a match at the Rumble, but say he loses, and someone is injured, setting up a big suprise entrant?

IDK!!!
 
Well, I for one say, if you are going to fresh up the Main event scene, fresh it all up.

I mean if Sheamus is going to make it through the Rumble, which in my opinion should (Because ending his reing right now means he has failed and he will start sinking in value, they should make him the strongest champion there could be and When Wrestlemania comes it will be a huge deal), Ten bring in a new Contender like Dibiase, or Rhodes, or Kingston or The Miz, or put Morrison there if you will, you can catch a Smackdown Superstar winning the Rumble and Choosing Sheamus as his opponent. I mean, we know the thing with Sheamus is not working out to the fullest, but is also in part because they are downplaying him. If by any means they push him as the Man who beat Cena and Orton they can make him a believable champion, but if they keep pushing him as afluke champion as he is going now, he will remain as Kurt Angle was in his first Reing, the weakest Champion there is and will push it like "we had to take the belt off him, is for the best", I mean stop sabotaging Their own champion as the yhave done with So many. In my opinion, the man who should take that belt from Sheamus should be also someone relatively new to the Main event and it should be fresh. I know it is a risky move but if Raw ME does is not that good you always have the other belt to Main event and can arrange that from the Rumble or the EC.

Now What I thing is going to happen is different, is wha tsome of you have said, I thing they are going to keep the Belt on Him until Wrestlemania and made him look as an average champion as he seems to be now (Asking for the Rumble off, looking a little short comming again John Cena on Raw before getting himself Dqed) and from all the main eventers Seems like HHH and John Cena are the ones that are main eventers without a real match for Mania (Cena Vs Undertaker seems scrapped now), So I thing that HHH will take it from him due to the way things have been sorted out or Cena in a rematch, most likely HHH.
 
It makes sense having Orton going against Sheamus for this reason . Orton is the most over guy in the company right now. They want to make Shamus a monster heel . They need to make people want to boo him so by putting him against who the people are cheering for (Orton) makes sense . Very few people are going to cheer for Shamus over Orton. This will not make Orton a face playing to the crowd, he will still do the same shit but against another heel. I think Shamus should retain title ,only because they have already given it to him , might as well try and get him some creditability and get something out of it.
 
Sheamus vs. Triple H @ Wrestlemania... for the WWE Title... and Sheamus will retain.

Triple H will eventually "take down" Sheamus for the WWE Championship. But not until after Wrestlemania. WWE needs to give Sheamus a real run. Wrestling fans always complain that we don't ever get to see new stars win world titles. Now that someone fresh is champion, they immediately want the title brought back to the same old wrestlers. Give Sheamus a chance.

Under Sheamus, Raw has done well in the ratings. Sure, Bret Hart and Mike Tyson can be given credit for Raw's recent increase in the ratings. But Sheamus, as champion, also deserves credit. When a show does lousy, the champion should be able to take some of the blame. When a show does well, the champion should likewise be lauded. Sheamus has done his job as champion, and he gets massive heat from the fans. Just look at the Tyson-Sheamus staredown from this past Raw. It was awesome.

Anyway, Triple H will ultimately "take down" Sheamus, but not until after Wrestlemania. I think Triple H and Sheamus will have a great program together, and because of the potential lengthiness of the feud, Sheamus will drop the title as least once to the Game.
 
Seriously think about it Sheamus has to lose the title before Wrestlemania with all due respect the guy was on Raw for one month retired Jamie Noble (who cares) gets a fluky win at TLC, then keeps his title by dq over Cena on Raw, so in my opinion i can not take the WWE title main event at WM26 seriously if this albino is in the main event thats why WWE needs to put Vinny macs son in law in the main event just to add star power its good to have fresh blood but not in the way they have built up Sheamus. So now i am done hatin on Sheamus.
 
Triple H will beat Sheamus and HBK will beat the Undertaker. I think that because I feel they want DX to have all the belts.
 
Hopefully they give a young kid with heaps of talent a shot.A quick,high flying guy like Evan Bourne.If given the right opportunities he could be the Jeff Hardy or Rey Mysterio.I think have Sheamus keep the title til WM and have Bourne win the money in the bank,and cash it in after Sheamus wins a hard fought match against HHH.That,s what i think SHOULD happen but most likely wont.What i think WILL happen is Sheamus lose the title in the elimination chamber(no way out) to either edge returning or Randy Orton.
 
God please don't give the belt to an old fat flabby triple haaytch for the 100th time. I just think thats a ******ed move. Keep the title on sheamus and continue to build him. The more i watch him the more he grows on me, stupid accent and all. That staredown with tyson as someone already mentioned was priceless. If wwe takes the title off of him, then they will never legitly be able to try this again with future up and coming wwe stars. If he must lose the title, make him lose it around night of champions to cena, or orton. All three of them are close in age, are draws, and in great shape. Don't regress by giving it to washed up old men like triple haaaytch or michaels. Give him a long run as champion to establish him even when he doesn't have the belt. If he loses it to quick he'll be forgotten. Don't screw up wwe.
 
Who should win it?
In my opinion it should be John Morrison cashing in MITB at Judgment Day.

Who will win it?
I honestly see them waiting until Mania and having Cena take it off him. There is no "hot feud" just waiting to be kicked into gear, such as the last time we had an extremely weak champion going into the wrestlemania season (Kurt Angle). I don't count Edge, because he came off as legit to me. Angle just didn't.

I would love to see them keep the youth movement going and have HHH, HBK, Cena, Orton, Mysterio, Batista, Jericho, Edge, Christian, and CM Punk all try their hand at taking the belt before he drops it to someone who has never won a title.
 
Very simply put, if Orton doesn't win at the Rumble, then I think Cena will win at the next PPV. Also, like it or not, HHH is probably due for another title run so that may be worked in there somewhere.

I don't see Sheamus losing to someone who would be a first time champion. I also very VERY highly doubt that Sheamus will hold the title at Wrestlemania. He's too new and not super over to be headling Wrestlemania as champion.
 
What if (and that's a big "what if") Randy fails to win the belt from Sheamus?

I would like to see Ted Dibiase beat Sheamus for the belt, maybe at Elimination chamber. He would have triumphed where Randy had failed, therefore beginning the feud we have all been waiting for. If he pinned Randy last in the chamber it would be the perfect way to begin what would be a great feud.

Mind you he would have to win legit though...

And defend it against Sheamus legit too...


Anyway what do you think; i know it's not likely but i would love to see it happen
 
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