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Who was the backbone of the WCW?

I see this as two separate questions.

The backbone of WCW during the Monday Night Wars was Hollywood Hogan. He was the lynchpin of the NWO, the entire reason that the angle worked. Without him, you do not have the resurgence of WCW or the Monday Night Wars at all. And for a while, I watched because of that storyline alone. What kept me watching though were guys like Mysterio, Malenko, Benoit, Jericho, Guerrero, Ultimo Dragon and the rest of the cruiserweights. These were the matches that I looked forward to each and every week and PPV. Even when the NWO had worn out its welcome with me (long long before the ultimate payoff of Hogan and Sting), I still stuck around for the cruiserweights.
 
Well, the early to mid 90's were dominated by Sting, Flair, Vader.

Then the mid 90's Sting, Hogan.

Late 90's Goldberg, DDP, Sting.

So, if a backbone runs throughout the entirety of the torso, from the head down to the tailbone....

Its gotta be Stinger.
 
Either Flair or Sting I guess. Siding towards Sting as he was 99% of the time a babyface, and normally either the very top or top of the card.

In terms of the attitude era (1997 - 2001 period) I'd safely say Goldberg. he was the biggest thing in wrestling, the face of WCW for sure. Positioned on all of the video games, posters, guides, toys etc. He was IT, and still have so much time for him. Longing for a return at Mania 30!!!
 
^lol can you back any of that up or are you just making stuff up, if you can please post some links to the proof otherwise don't make stuff up. now, onto the OP question, the answer is sting, he never left the company, he always defended wcw and he was a main evener the entire 12 1/2 years wcw was open.

Yes. I have proof. It is called be a knowledgeable fan of the World of wrestling. The lawsuit against WCW was well documented. Steiner was a shadow of his former ability and served only a purpose of being less credible than the guy who got a spot because of the lawsuit, Steiner didn't deserve it, and anyone who tries to pretend otherwise didn't watch WCW. And DDP, well, lets see, back in the AWA, he was linked to Hall. In The NWA is started out inked to Nash, and when they stepped out of the spotlight to assume their power play backstage, DDP goes to the top. connect the dots, idiot.
 
These are two different things so I'm answering both.

Who was the backbone of the WCW?


Sting was obviously a franchise guy and one of the biggest draws in WCW. No matter the persona he was using. He didn't talk for a year and he could still sell merchandise and people cared about what he was going to do.

Ric Flair is probably more well known for his time in WCW than he is for is run in WWF.

Lex Luger is the same as Flair. Definitely not as big of a star as Flair but he had a good run in WCW.

Randy Savage. Probably more known for his time in WWF but going to WCW was a big deal. I'm sure he took some fans with him and he was definitely a key player at one point. I think he kind of became devalued after joining the nWo but during the invasion and everything he still was a big star.

Hulk Hogan. Both as a face and a heel he was a major part of WCW. I'm sure a lot of people tuned in to see him.

The Outsiders. They were brought in perfectly and generated a lot of buzz. At one point the nWo was the hottest thing in wrestling and Hall and Nash were a big reason for that.

Goldberg. Like him or not Goldberg had a huge fan base and probably attracted a lot of people.

I will say that one brother of mine who didn't watch much wrestling or really know much about it knew who Sting and Goldberg were. (and obviously Hogan) He drove me to a Thunder once and near the end Goldberg came out. My brother wanted to leave before everyone else so we were getting ready to leave but my brother said he wanted to see the guy (Goldberg) pick up the big guy (The Giant) so we watched him come out and jack hammer the Giant and then left. So he knew enough about Goldberg to know that was going to happen.

What guy(s) did you tune in to watch and pay money to see?

I was always more of a WWF person but I liked Sting. I thought Hall and Nash were cool. I was a Jericho fan once they started letting him talk. I liked the Eddie and Chavo feud. I liked Raven. I liked DDP. Juvi, Rey and Psicosis were all cool. I liked Malenko during his feud with Jericho. I liked Benoit and Booker T's best of seven series. Even though Bret's WCW career was pretty awful I still liked him. Honestly of the whole roster that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I thought Mortis and Wrath had cool gimmicks but I can't think of any matches off hand that I liked them in.
 
Everyone saying Sting is wrong on this point, and there really is no counter to this.

If you are the backbone of the company, considered so by either yourself or your bosses/peers... NO WAY you sit in the rafters for a year... to me that takes Sting out of it.

While he was sitting in those rafters, the guys covering the show were the backbone, not Sting. Sure he gets the "unsung hero" status but this isn't about that, it's about the guys who even though their name wasn't top of the card you would pay to see a show knowing they were there "so it won't suck". Or maybe people DID pay to see Sting sit in the roof?

The backbone isn't the face, brain or even close to being "the guy". He's the one who will never be that guy but you'll still pay to watch kick the shit out of someone or get the shit kicked...

Ok to open it up the backbone of WWF/E...

Hogan era you're taling Greg Valentine, Tito Santana, Rick Martel and Haku - those 4 guys were in EVERY PPV, in a major match from the early Hogan era to the end of it... and always doing something meaningful.

Once you go into the 90's it is Owen Hart without question, for 8 years he held that same role till his death, from High Energy through to the fatal Blue Blazer...

Post Owen it's probably Christian on balance, later 2000's it was Matt Hardy and then more recently Kofi Kingston... None of them are the Sting, Hogan, Lex type... translate that to WCW and you'll agree surely?
 
I wouldn't disagree with people touting Sting or DDP... but if its just one name to pick here its Ric Flair.
Flair of course was the face of the NWA throughout the 80s .... and even though WCW was born at a later stage of his career (40s and early 50s) .... it was still effectively the same company... so alot of the loyal fans still associated Flair with being the emblem of the company based on his previous accomplsihments with the NWA.
Flair is recognised as the first ever WCW world chamop.... even when he wrestled for WWE for 18 months.... there were still the 'We Want Flair' chants from the WCW crowds which undermined Lex Lugers reign.
Flair was still 'the man' the man when he wasn't around.

Upon returning, Flair of course would win the WCW title another 5 times .... dominating 1993 & 94, and when he was pushed into the background with the Hogan train, and later the NWO... Flair was still the one guy whose name you'd associate with the company more than any other.

WCW existed from 1990-2001. Flair and Sting were 2 guys who were there at the beginning and there at the end, and did a lot of great things in between.
 
If you are the backbone of the company, considered so by either yourself or your bosses/peers... NO WAY you sit in the rafters for a year... to me that takes Sting out of it.

Which led to the biggest buyrate in WCW history. I would say that's pretty solid ground for him to be called the backbone of the company. Then did the 6th biggest buyrate in WCW history as a follow at Superbrawl 8.

The reason WCW was around in 1998 was because Sting was the guy in the late 80's and early 90's that stuck around as THE drawing card. The Horsemen went, Dusty went, Luger went, he was the pre-eminent guy for the company.

The biggest problem with everyone else that could be considered for 'backbone', is that in the end they were a bigger hindrance than they were a help. Sting never felt like that and always felt like he was the focal point that everything else gravitated around.
 
It just doesn't work. Your backbone does the work... keeps the quality of the show up and builds interest in the product without being the focal point... Sting was one of the faces of the company at the time... which was why the match drew, not cos he was the backbone of WCW.

The backbone guys were the ones whose matches were THAT good that you didn't mind not seeing Sting wrestle for months on end. If those guys aren't having those great matches then Sting has to wrestle to compensate and the draw for that match is less. He wasn't responsible for the quality of the card... he was to draw TV ratings... that's a different thing altogether. Your backbone guys in that era were the ones who you knew would get you quality on that card and the faces/top guys were responsible for getting people to "tune in". That is exactly how both WCW and WWE worked until the end of the attitude era.
 
First, you have to answer what do you consider WCW....some people look at WCW as a completely different entity than the NWA, they only consider WCW post 1989 when Turner basically bought all the interests of the NWA product that ran successfully for years from Jim Crockett Jr. Other people consider WCW as going back into the NWA, essentially seeing it as the same company, just changing owners.

If you only count from 1989 on then it's pretty much a two horse race between Flair and Sting. Sting was one guy who never left, unlike Flair and Luger, both of which bolted in the early 90s and had successful runs in WWE. During the really dark days of WCW with Flair gone, Sting almost single handedly kept the brand afloat with his feuds vs Rick Rude and Vader, as well as Luger. Luger may have been chosen to be the first long term champ post Flair's exit but Sting was the centerpiece, much like John Cena today.

Once Flair returned the product was invigorated. Older fans who had tuned out slowly started tuning back in and the numbers started ticking significantly upward as Flair moved back into active wrestling, then into the main events with his well received feud vs Vader. Flair again was carrying the company, all over TV, doing house shows, and wrestling some very good matches vs Vader, Paul Orndorf, Steve Regal, Rude, and others. Lets not forget that behind the scenes Flair was instrumental in getting Hogan to sign, using their friendship from WWE and offering to put him over in a three match set and make him champ. Regardless of your opinion of Hogan regarding his backstage politicking and self promotion, there is no doubt that the numbers ticked up further when he arrived, at least when he faced Flair. Flair also played a big role behind the scenes in recruiting Randy Savage.

Flair really carried the weight through 1996 as the most consistent top star, the company's lead villain, and he was the featured star in the early days of Monday Nitro dominating the World Title from late 95-Spring of 96. Injuries and backstage conflict with Hogan & Eric Bischoff lessened his role somewhat post 1997 but even during 97-99 Flair had prominent fueds with Curt Henning, Sean Waltman, wrestled two phenomenal bouts vs Brett Hart, was the 2nd biggest attraction at Starrcade 98 behind the Goldberg-Nash bout, and delivered big numbers again for his final run vs Hogan in 99 which essentially ended the Now storyline as well as gave Flair another World Title Run.

I would actually give Sting the edge though from 97 on as work horse or face of the franchise, he was even more prominent than Flair or any other WCW star opposing the NwO. No doubt that DDP became a big star and Goldberg was a huge phenom, bigger than anyone in WWE except Austin, but those werev shorter periods and less substantial in terms of storyline and match placement over all as compared to Sting.

So again, 1989 onward, it's pretty even between Sting and Flair and for longevity sake Id probably give the nod to Flair if I had to pick only one. If you extend this back and consider WCW just an extension of the Jim Crockett Promotions and the NWA then it's Flair by a mile, at least post 1980.
 
Sting hands down. He never left the company and had main event status his entire tenure. When Savage and Hogan jumped over from the WWF he had no problem working with them and taking a back seat to both of them winning the title. Sting had great showmanship in the ring, good wrestling moves (for his era), strong gimmick, and could promo. His match with Hogan at Starcade was probably the biggest (in terms of anticipation) match in the history of wrestling. The only knock against him is unwillingness to go heel. Which is understandable, but it doesn't make him the most flexible guy on the roster at that point.

Flair would go over Sting had he not left in 92.
 

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