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Which big star did you think wouldn't get anywhere?

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Just about everone who ever became big.HBK,Bret Hart,Diesel,Austin,Rock,HHH,Foley,Eddie,Beniot,Batista,Cena,Rey etc,I at some point they would amount to anything.
I think its rare for a new talent to walk in and become topdog.When you look at the new wrestlers who came in and were already being branded next WHC,the ended up bombing out of the company.Look at guys like Ken Shamrock,Heidenreich,Luther Reigns etc.Lesnar was the only new guy who seemed like the real deal early on,but as we saw, he too screwed himself over.Its ussually the guys who start at rockbottom who become stars because of their loyalty to the business.I remeber how long HH had to job before he became champ.
 
Ok, some good ones here, but let me be the voice of descent. You had to figure Cena would go somewhere after being put into a match with Angle from Day One. He and Batista were the 2 HUGE names in OVW after Lesnar left, so if you pay attention down there, we could have known. The rock is a GREAT CALL, as is Austin. Here's three I havent seen much. I ALWAYS knew Edge, Christian, Chris Jericho, etc would be huge because they are blonde canadians, and we are the best people in the world.

1. Bret Hart. He was a tag team wrestler in pink who teamed with a fat guy with a dumb goatee. Who ever thought he would lose the IC title to the Bulldog and then make Ric Flair submit!?

2. Umaga. With so many recycles Samoans or African "savages," nobody had to think this guy would go anywhere. Most fans knew it was the guy from 2 minute warning. He was part of a triple main event at WM 23 following a fairly long feud with John Cena for the belt.

3. Rey Mysterio. When he redefined wrestling in WCW as a Cruiserweight, people had to figure that would be his niche until death. Royal Rumble winner and World Heavyweight Champion!? SAY WHAT!?

4. JBL. For years his big thing was being in either "The New Blackjacks" with an aging Barry Windham or "The Acolytes" with an aging Ron Simmons. He then went on to be the longest reigning champ Smackdown has ever seen.
 
I have one. How many of you though Carlito would win the US title in his very first Match? How many of you though he'd win the IC title in his first match on RAW? Did you see the promos they were cutting for him? I never though he'd last more than 6 months, and now look. Not the best, but he's been in some pretty nice feuds, and his ring work has improved drastically. His feud with lair right now is doing wonders for him, I forgot he existed for a little while there!

Another guy I never saw reaching main event status was Mr Kennedy. Up until he actually got the MITB, I never though he'd ever become a champ. I still don't see it happening, I wouldn't be surprised if he lost his Cash in. But if he does win it, I'd be surprised, even though I know he deserves it. I can see them forcing him to cash in on ECW though, just to be sure. I can see that show being used to build alot of Superstars. Lashley, Kennedy, Umaga, Finlay, etc... All stars I never though would get far with their gimmicks, and look at them all now. Former US and IC champs, and most of them future heavyweight champs, yet no one would have though it when they debuted.
 
Kane - I can't believe none of you said Kane yet, here is another JBL story if there ever was one of a guy who worked for the WWE for years and years, had probably THE worst gimmicks ever in the history of the sport in Issac Yankem, New Diesel, etc until finally they decided to give him a mask to become the brother Undertaker supposedly lefted a charred psychotic wreck following a house fire as children. Look at him now he's had probably the shortest world title reign ever, been multiple tag champ and maybe even IC champ a few times I cant remember.

Steve Austin - Yeah I know he had some moderater success before coming to WWE but come on what the hell was with the Dream Master?! I thought for sure he was gonna flounder in the WWE just like he did in WCW there for awhile. Then all the sudden he was the most well known talent in the world second only to Hogan which I'm sure Ric Flair may dispute that but we all know that Austin was/is just as over as Hogan ever was maybe not globally but he surely is in the States
 
Honestly I think that Kurt Angle was a pretty enormous surprise to me... This comes from a personal level. I am from Pittsburgh and he grew up about 10 minutesfrom my house. I am pretty good friends with the children of his cousins and it got me an interview with him when I was about 7. Some school project or something. This was right around the time when he ws coming off a gold medal. I absolutely loved the WWF and the attitude era, so I asked if he would ever consider taking that career up. He said no not for any money at all. When he first appeared on Smackdown I was more than shocked. And when he won the championship here in Pittsburgh my jaw literally hit the ground. Now here I am about 10 years later looking at an accomplished wrestler one time removed from a sports company...
 
Rey Meysterio_ i mean who would think a 190 pound shit head would become that impressive he was always good but it was a big surprise to see him win the championship wow!
 
1. Bret Hart. He was a tag team wrestler in pink who teamed with a fat guy with a dumb goatee. Who ever thought he would lose the IC title to the Bulldog and then make Ric Flair submit!?

Oh...My...God... Not only was the Hart Foundation possibly the greatest tag team of all time, behind maybe the Road Warriors, but they were also very successful. I miss the Hart Foundation soo much.

But I would have to also go with JBL, I mean how could anyone have seen that comming. He couldnt have been a more dry boring wrestler if he tried, his finisher was a clothesline for crying out loud. Even though he was a dull champion its shocked me that he got the push he did, considering he was as random a draw as their could be. I dont really watch smackdown but it seemed like he had the belt forever too, so he has to be the biggest shock in my mind.
 
Both Edge and Christian. The Brood and such were rough times creatively for the WWE. Gangrel stayed true to sucking butthole but Edge and Christian really changed for the better and I was glad to be proven wrong.

Also I never expected Shelton Benjamin to really develop into anything. Oh wait...
 
Batista-Wasn't he Deacon Batista w/ Rev. D'Von?

HHH-classic when he came to the ring back in the day with the cape. I see Kenny Dykstra being sinilar to him. Wouldn't be surpirsed to see him a big name in 5-10.
 
Without reading too many more posts, here's some of the ones on my list:
Scott Steiner. never considered him much for a single wrestler, but he broke from his brother Rick, and then reappeared as a steroid freak a few months later. He was a pretty well built guy before, but he almost doubled in size in less then 6 months.

1-2-3 Kid. was a complete surprise to see him grow into Xpac and the like.

HHH he had talent, and size, but was an odd character as Hunter Hearst Helmsley the rich fop, but DX made him a star.

Mark Henry never thought he'd even be around in 2001, let alone 2007. should have let his fat ass go years ago, but he's a company man willing to do anything (Sexual Chocolate? Remember him? and Mae Young?) to stick around were others have more pride.

Gregory Helms. in WCW was part of boyband wannabe's but came to WWF and took off first as fanf fav, and now as a heel.

Lashley thought he would be a temp replacement ot fill in for the departed Lesnar. but he's shown some real talent, and is growing better on the mic.

Chris Masters would have thought he'd have joined the likes of Stasiak and Ohare.

Cade and Murdoch never expected them to amount to more then a glorified jobber team with the occassional run of wins to get a title shot against weak tagteam division on raw. oh, wait. that's what they are.

London and Kendrick always thought they had amazing talent, but didnt' think Vince could be convinced to let a cruiserweight tagteam do more then a short stint at the top. thought they'd be stuck as single cruiserweights until Vince dropped them like he does all of those size.

DIVA SEARCH should have stayed a 1 year thing instead of become a recurring event.

The Miz should not be on tv, but at least he's finally in ring instead of talking all the time.

the Kind jerry lawler as an announcer. was good, but thought he was too much of a reverse of JR to fit together well. but with Monsoon leaving for health reasons, Vince to get more interactive, and Heenan in WCW, no one else to fill the role since Jesse Ventura had leaft wrestling for politics.

Batista came in as Deacon Batista, working with Brother Dvon during the short D-boys split. THought he'd go the way of other similar sized and talented guys, Bull Buchanan, Tyson Tomko, and Luther Reigns and be gone quickly. But was put with HHH and the rest in Evolution(poor remake of 4horseman)

Randy Orton really didn't think much of him at first and still don't really, but can't deny that he does what he's asked to do in the ring.

Cena, never saw him getting as big as this, but thought he'd do ok as a steady IC champ/contender

Rock. never thoguht he'd go anywhere even after he started tweaking and joined the Nation, which is where his character really exploded. All his catch phrases and moves started then, and that was back around 1996-97 during the attitude era and like austin, he's coasted on his reputation sincethen never really being forced to try and grow from that stale character.
 
John Cena - I figured he would follow in the footsteps of that great legend PN News. I hated the gimmick and saw no way that it would ever work. I was certainly wrong.

I'll also agree with HHH. Talk about a career killing gimmick...hog slop matches with Henry Godwin? I never would have imagined that HHH would grow to become such an important player in the WWF/E, even if it was shoved down fans throats to get him that way.

Eddie Guerrero - Short and flabby, and couldn't fly like Mysterio. He was boring in the ring to me, and I don't think he ever got mic time. Who would have known that one decade, and several steroid shots later he would blossom into one of the most beloved superstars of his decade?

Marc Mero - Coming into WCW as Johnny B Badd, a clear metrosexual gimmick, who would have thought that this make-up wearing, boa brandishing "pretty boy" would ever matter? I mean, nobody really cared, but he was still bigger than I thought he'd be.

Chyna - A freakin' manbeast with a smaller chest than I, Chyna was hideous, boring, uninteresting and worthless. But, she was eventually able to connect with fans, and after a little (read: lots) of plastic surgery she was able to look halfway decent and wound up really raising the bar for women's wrestlers in the WWF. Just don't watch her sex tape with Waltman.
 
I would say John Morrison(Johnny Nitro), I never imagined that he would be a world title holder(so be it ECW). I thought he would be stuck in the midcard/tag team division for the rest of his carreer. It's not b/c i thought he was a bad wrestler or bad on the mic it's just wwe creative team sometimes screw up(shelton benjamin)
 
I have to say The Rock. I thought his first gimmick was horrible, to flashy not very appealing. I still didnt think he'd make it even after he joined the nation. I thought, great this is going to be another guy that just kind of dissapears after the stable breaks up. But he ended up battling the odds and becoming great.
 
I was one of the guys that was like, "Fire Batista!" when he first debuted. I thought he was worthless, but now I can see why he's on top. He's not the best worker but he's a sight to see and the fans seem to love his larger than life persona. They marketed him right.

The other one is JBL. As Bradshaw, he seemed like he hit a dead end with the APA stuff. Then I HATED his heel turn and thought he was destined to fail, it was too radical of a change and they seemed to shove it down everyones throats. After a while, though, he grew on me and now I can't picture him doing anything else.

On a lesser note, Santino Marella, I gave him 5 weeks before they fired him and now he's entertaining as anything.
 
IMO i thought it would certainly have to be John Cena until i read many of the posts in this thread, i think the option of JBL is good but still when Cena debuted i thought he was one of those local jobbers getting a night's work and a bit of TV time, i never thought hed be rapping and winning the U.S. title, let alone the WWE Championship.
 
Kevin Nash - I first was introduced to the man while he was portraying the "Vinnie Vegas" Gimmick in early WCW. Sporting this like pink leather costume that he's pretty much always worn. His finisher was "the snake eyes"...lifting an opponent above his head and dropping them face first into the turn buckle.

Christopher Daniels - He used to play Curry Man. I didn't think he was ever going to get his big break. Thank God he did.
 
I would say Bobby Lashley. When he first debuted I though he was gonna be another big guy that would only be good in squash feuds. For the first few months of his WWE stint that's exactly what he was. Then I started to see some talent, but it faded fast. I wasn't very surprised when he won the U.S title, because I knew he was in for a push. But when he left got moved over to ECW I was really shocked and pissed when he won the world title because I was a fan of the Big Show reign. That's when he became overpushed and practically owned ECW. I never thought he would get anywhere and sadly I'm wrong.
 
Triple H comes to mind because he's not a truly unique wrestler. He's good, but not the stuff of legend like Finlay or Rhino or The Rock.
 
triple h is great but the one who isn't is the great khali big guy who loves to squash only beaten for the sake of preciuos fans he is horrrible!!!!
 
I would say John Morrison(Johnny Nitro), I never imagined that he would be a world title holder(so be it ECW). I thought he would be stuck in the midcard/tag team division for the rest of his carreer. It's not b/c i thought he was a bad wrestler or bad on the mic it's just wwe creative team sometimes screw up(shelton benjamin)

I definitely agree with WWE Creative having twigs up their behinds...have you seen some of the stuff the Morrison can pull off? Sickening athleticism.





Mine would be Chris Jericho as well. Never achieving anything above the TV Title/Cruiserweight title in WCW, I NEVER thought he'd compete for a top belt when he debued, and actually get it. He proved me wrong twice, and I'm glad he did.
 
I would say kurt angle. I remember when he used to come in his semi blue trunks, gold medal and brag on the mic. He did a lot of mat wrestling which i wasnt used to at the time ( i enjoyed brawler and technical type matches).
Kurt would throw fits and cry after loosing his matches and i thought this guy is gonna become a jobber soon up until his feud with the rock then i realised this guy is gonna be bigger than i originally thought. The rest is history they say
 
with some people talking about how triple h was supposed to win the king of the ring 96. i got to thinking that if he did win that would we ever have had Austin 316?



as it pertains to this topic......i would have to go with kurt angle. when i first saw him he was a goof ball yelling about his 3 Is. i didnt think much of him when he first won the title either. the thing that really turned it around for me was the alliance story with SCSA. he really showed that he could get a huge reaction and draw for the company
 
personally i thought jay lethal would pop in and be out within a few months but that kid noes how to wrestle and pull off macho man like no one can hes the x division champ and i thought id never see that happen hes over with the crowd like no ones business to i think he can go REALLY big in the future with the right mindset and a good backing of fans
 
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