When was the last time John Cena LOST cleanly?
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Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
Money In The Bank. No outside interference, nothing that could have caused a disqualification. He got hit with the GTS, got pinned 1-2-3 in the middle of the ring. Sure John Lauranitas or however the fuck you spell that tried to cause a screwjob but Cena cost himself the match. You could call it flukey, but it was still a clean win.
The_Reptile_
Pre-Show Stalwart
Uh, how about last week? You know, at Money in the Bank? That was about as clean as clean could get for a Top Face and the circumstances behind the match.
The Dragon Saga
Whale in a Teardrop
There was kind of interference at MITB. He had to let go of the STF in the center of the ring to prevent CM Punk from being screwed and him being embroiled in a Montreal Screwjob like situation; as he said on RAW, he didn't want to be made into what Shawn Michaels was made into after the Screwjob.
He lost cleanly to some others recently. Didn't Punk not beat him cleanly in their last encounter on Monday Night RAW a month or so back? I'm certain he did, he lost to Sheamus cleanly the last time Sheamus beat him too.
He lost cleanly to some others recently. Didn't Punk not beat him cleanly in their last encounter on Monday Night RAW a month or so back? I'm certain he did, he lost to Sheamus cleanly the last time Sheamus beat him too.
No he didn't lost cleanly against CM Punk, he had to break the STF because of outside interference and he has never lost to Punk cleanly, and CM Punk is like 4-1 against Cena this year.
The last time he lost cleanly was against Randy Orton in a Tables Match, AA turned into an RKO through a table at Monday Night Raw.
The last time he lost cleanly was against Randy Orton in a Tables Match, AA turned into an RKO through a table at Monday Night Raw.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
He should never lose clean. Never. The top guy in the company should look as strong as possible.
How does that taste?
How does that taste?
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
uhhh....sunday?
R
Rell
Guest
Sunday at the MITB PPV against CM Punk actually.
When the Superface breaks his STF in the middle of the ring to punch some other person outside the ring, and when he gets back (at the same time that he is talking to other guy) he eats the GTS to the pin is not a clean victory to the other guy.
He broke the fucking STF in the middle of the ring for Christ Sake, it wasn't complete clean.
Some of you need to see the match again.
He broke the fucking STF in the middle of the ring for Christ Sake, it wasn't complete clean.
Some of you need to see the match again.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
It was clean. Punk broke no rule, nobody did. You could call it a fluke win, but it was absolutely clean. Cena made a mistake and Punk capitalized without breaking a single rule.
So everytime Kofi Kingston lost to Ziggler because of Vickie distraction was a clean victory?
Is exactly the same thing, VKM distracted John Cena that was in the middle of his Submission Finisher Move, maybe Punk didn't asked for the help but he had.
In your terms R-Truth won cleanly against Cena in the Tables Match 3 weeks ago, CM Punk interfered but he didn't touch Cena, Cena touch him.
It wasn't clean, it had a distraction, CM Punk capitalized on it, but it isn't a bottom line clean victory because he was suffering a STF when someone make John Cena break the manuever.
Is exactly the same thing, VKM distracted John Cena that was in the middle of his Submission Finisher Move, maybe Punk didn't asked for the help but he had.
In your terms R-Truth won cleanly against Cena in the Tables Match 3 weeks ago, CM Punk interfered but he didn't touch Cena, Cena touch him.
It wasn't clean, it had a distraction, CM Punk capitalized on it, but it isn't a bottom line clean victory because he was suffering a STF when someone make John Cena break the manuever.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
Here think of it this way. Lets say Cena has CM Punk locked up in the STF just like he did last Sunday. Right as Punk is about to tap, Cena decides to let go and grab a drink of water outside the ring. He comes back in, catches a GTS, it's all over. Is that not a clean loss?
He felt compelled to exit the ring and stop Johnny Ace, but had he not done it he would have won. He chose to be distracted. John wasn't going to do him any harm and he knew it.
Punk did nothing wrong.
He felt compelled to exit the ring and stop Johnny Ace, but had he not done it he would have won. He chose to be distracted. John wasn't going to do him any harm and he knew it.
Punk did nothing wrong.
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
It was clean becuase Cm Punk dealt with the exact same distraction in the exact same situation mere moments earlier.
Then Cena did, in the exact same situation.
Both took advantage of it in the exact same way.
it was fair.
Then Cena did, in the exact same situation.
Both took advantage of it in the exact same way.
it was fair.
Johnny Ace was told to make the bell ring, making another screwjob and John Cena HAD to break it because he didn't want it.
If they hadn't shown up, how the hell would CM Punk get the pin?
He wouldn't, he would tap out, he was like at 2 minute in the STF, and nobody survives 2 min at STF!
It wasn't clean, because Cena broke his manuever because of outside distraction.
When a manager yells to other competitor, making them turn back on their opponent and losing with a roll over, is a clean win?
He looked because he wanted to, but it still a distraction like Johnny Ace was.
Ubiquitous
Paint by numbers.
He didn't want it. Exactly. He would have won either way. It's not unclean just because he CHOSE that he didn't WANT to win a specific way. He broke his own hold and ALLOWED himself to get distracted, by something that otherwise would not have been detrimental to his title defense.
So R-Truth won cleanly too, John Cena tried to AA CM Punk, because he wanted too.
Oh well, Cena loses cleanly a lot of times then.
Ubiquitous
Paint by numbers.
You're a moron. CM Punk tried to interfere IN THE MATCH. VKM and Johnny Ace weren't going to do ANYTHING to Cena except hand him the win on a silver platter. They weren't going to get in the ring and beat him down. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.
Hulk Hogan's Brother
Stop asking me what I'm gonna do!!!
This.
Cena didn't want to be HBK, so for giving him the victory in heelish way isn't interfering in the match?
We are talking about Cena, not General Wrestling matches, he stopped because he felt wrong about winning that way (thus interfering in the result of the match)...
No, I just think that a clean victory don't have outside interference by any means, and this match had an interference that could have made John Cena or CM Punk the winner.
What a fucking smarks, yes yes, CM Punk is the best, he really won 100% cleanly, it was right called in the middle, he reversed the STF to a GTS, and 1,2,3!!
John Cena just took a break from the STF, and when he get back he eat the GTS, he is a moron, taking breaks in the middle of the match...
It wasn't fair, if they didn't show up, or if both of them weren't distracted by them, that could make sense, but the distraction provided the result of the match... CM Punk is no different, he won because CENA was distracted, if CENA had won against Punk in that STF, John Cena would add a heel victory to his record.
And Cena broke the STF, CM Punk didn't broke the pinfal, I guess he didn't need to take a break.
Ubiquitous
Paint by numbers.
You DO know wrestling is fake... right? I feel like you honestly believe CM Punk was going to tap out and that Vince fucked it all up for Cena. Hate to break the bad news but... that was all scripted. Was gonna happen no matter what.
Oh God, we are discussing about the way CM Punk won, and in the storyline Vince fucked it all up for Cena, if he hadn't shown up, who knows what could had happen?
I'm honestly feeling bad, I'm discussing with a child.
It wasn't that clean, as a normal clean victory, just sayin... I don't see it as clean at all.
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