whats so great about M.V.P?

[nash123]

hi, it has been a long time since i last post here and it is because wwe has been boring for months.

Ok nothing against the guy as he seems to be a crowd pleaser and people seems to really like him; but i just dont get why? I use to love this guy when he debuted and i knew right away he would become a great superstar, but than he started to get stale and i think went on a massive losing streak down the road. after that i lost interest and thought he would be release very soon. Well i was wrong. After watching raw this past month, i notice that wwe has turned him face, and is slowy being built as the next best thing; since right now wwe doesnt have one. For one, i think his finisher is horrible, his attire is ugly, i mean could you imagine this guy in tights or in a speedo; that would mean he will probably be wearing that power ranger attire for the rest of his career. Right now as to see how things are going i could definitly see wwe giving him the money in the bank breif case this year and being a champ very soon after.

well my point of this thread was to pretty much ask "whats so great about mvp and why do people like this guy"? lol

IMO we need another randy orton. a young blood. some1 like jack swagger and more of

 

[Nate DaMac]

Ok the last thing we need is another Randy Orton. Whats so great about MVP? He has superstar quality. That thing you can't quite put your finger on. Face it, in ring ability means jack shit. Not to say he's bad, but it doesn't mean anything anymore. There isn't anyone other mid carders on Raw that are near as ready to take the spotlight as MVP. Simply put, he's better than them. Hate on the apparel all you want, I applaud the fact that he doesn't wear nuthugging tights. He has mic skills, and that is one of the most important factors. In conclusion, MVP is the best mid carder they have on Raw. He deserves to go further.

 

[3 Nickels]

After I saw that 'Mania match with Chris Benoit, I was sold. Now he has the charisma, and he has in ring talent. He will get another finisher it happened to some of the greats (i.e. HBK). I think he's a great talent and will do well. I want to see where they take him now. A feud with Legacy? Maybe with Big Show?

 

[ratedrko13]

match with benoit was good, hate the losing streak though it was dumb. He really has been stale yet i feel with the right push he will be good.

 

[FloydFixation]

I see either Trips or Orton regaining the title this Monday and afterwards MVP will come out and say something about being left off of the Main Event title match which will thus put him into the title picture. I want to see that happen.

 

[ereyes127]

MVP needs to be used right. He had that losing streak cuz creative wanted to humble him. I see MVP being the wwe champion by the end of the year. Especially with Vince wanting to get the younger talent involved. In a few years a Miz vs MVP feud would be great

 

[Kurt]

Everyone has a hard on for him because he can shoot a promo and actually wrestle.That's what's so great about him.Sure he's not overly outstanding in any other area,but he's an above average wrestler that got some time to shine.

 

[kingdirrtysouth1]

All you need to become a star in wrestling is mic skills, charisma, & the chance to shine! MVP has that & can wrestle on top of it! Imagine where Shelton would be if he had the first two!

 

[Blifferd221]

i find nothing great about mvp to be honest. he hasnt proved anything to me yet that was worth while, with the exception of his fued with Chris Benoit.

 

["Cool Guy" Jensen]

I ask myself the same question everyday. Every time I log in to wrestlezone, I see fan after fan praising M.V.P. and saying that he will become a huge star player in a few years. I ask why? I mean sure, M.V.P. is different. He doesn't wear your typical ring attire, the stuff he does in the ring is not seen all the time, and his mic skills are great, but what else. From Day One, I never liked M.V.P. He thought he was a bit boring, I hated it when he defeated Chris Benoit to win the United States Championship, I hated the fact that he held it for 11 months, I hated his losing streak, I hated when he won the U.S. Title for the second time, I hate what he's doing now on Raw. I can see that M.V.P. is unique, but I do not see the reason why people continue to classify him as a future main eventer and World Champion... a good one I might add.

 

[Razor]

hi, it has been a long time since i last post here and it is because wwe has been boring for months.

A lot of people seem to think that lately. I don't get it. Maybe it's the lack of sex and violence. I dunno.

Ok nothing against the guy as he seems to be a crowd pleaser and people seems to really like him; but i just dont get why?

He knows Face psychology, and knows it well. It's not hard to get over with the crowd when you know what the fuck you're doing. Ask Cena.

I use to love this guy when he debuted and i knew right away he would become a great superstar, but than he started to get stale and i think went on a massive losing streak down the road. after that i lost interest and thought he would be release very soon. Well i was wrong.

Hey! Someone on this forum who is complaining about the product admits they're wrong. That's great. Not being condescending either. People always seem to assume they're smarter than me because they complain.

After watching raw this past month, i notice that wwe has turned him face, and is slowy being built as the next best thing; since right now wwe doesnt have one.

Well, you got that one right. People would say The Miz, but I don't like the dude. It's his promos. Not a fan.

For one, i think his finisher is horrible, his attire is ugly, i mean could you imagine this guy in tights or in a speedo; that would mean he will probably be wearing that power ranger attire for the rest of his career.

I agree. His finisher is pretty bad. Any finisher that requires you to hop around on one leg for 5 seconds isn't all that great. Especially when you're sitting at home saying "KICK HIS LEG OUT FROM UNDER HIM," but the heels never seem to listen. Sad.

His red onsey thing was really gaudy this past Monday. I myself think he should go to a more traditional singlet. But I have a sneaking suspicion he's wearing that thing because of prison tattoos. You know, he was a felon. 9 and a half to 18 for Kidnapping and Armed Robbery. If you don't mind wiki:

He also has a number of homemade gang related tattoos that he had done when he was in his teens and which he is no longer proud of.

So there. He simply doesn't want his fans to see tattoos he's no longer proud of. I can't blame him.

Right now as to see how things are going i could definitly see wwe giving him the money in the bank breif case this year and being a champ very soon after.

I'm hoping they throw that to Kofi if he can get the crowd into his matches more consistently. Honestly though, as long as it isn't Punk again. Punk's reign flopped the first time around, and I'd bet it's as bad this time. Though I'll reserve judgment until he's had it a full week, lulz.

well my point of this thread was to pretty much ask "whats so great about mvp and why do people like this guy"? lol

He's good at what he does. He has that Face psychology down, and he wrestles well. No, not Olympic wrestling. Pro wrestling. He does well in the professional wrestling realm. Which really only requires him to get the crowd interested and keep them that way. Which he's getting better at.

IMO we need another randy orton. a young blood. some1 like jack swagger and more of

Oh god no. No more Orton. Please, please. They have Priceless molded after him, when one Orton was too many. Have you seen Priceless' previous promos? They're starting the catatonic, monotone mess that Orton does. Horrible. And to think, Rhodes and Dibiase could have learned from their fathers instead of that fool Orton.

And we need more Heels on Raw. the Faces are already outnumbered. They're so outnumbered, Cena's having to pull double duty and feud with two heels at once, lulz. You can argue Triple H is feuding with three, but can you really call that a feud?

What we need is for MVP to move up and start a feud with one of the many main-event heels on Raw. Show/Miz/Orton/Dibiase/Rhodes. anyone of them. Though i'd like for Priceless to feud and grow in the mid-card more. but that's beside the point.

 

[nash123]

Razorback alright i agree, but what i meant to say when i mentioned we need more ortan type wrestler was when randy was back in evolution and watching him grow, this guy had full potential not like today's wrestlers' (except swagger) ortan now i think is mad boring especially when he's being hunted and not the hunter.

 

[onelove1386]

whats so good about MVP..... Absolutely nothing at all. His in ring ability is stale and boring, his story lines have been ******ed and pointless and to top it of his finisher is weaker then gillbergs spear.

 

[SAbin32]

There is nothing good about MVP. I don't know where this so called charisma and mic work come from. He is dreadful in the ring, and didn't even win the US title from Benoit at 'Mania like everyone knew he was going to. Winning a belt at 'Mania is a big thing, and he beat Benoit at the next PPV if I am not mistaken. And the losing streak was meant to humble MVP? What could he possibly have an attitude about? He sucks in the ring and on the mic, he wears that power ranger suit because he has no body. He fought Matt Hardy for months and months for the US title on Smackdown, and those matches were dreadful. He shouldn't be pushed into the main event on Raw because he is the best midcarder they have, that is not saying much. I'd rather see HHH with the belt for 6 months than for them to tell me MVP is a main eventer (and I hate HHH). Honestly, if they are willing to drop Kennedy, they should drop MVP as well. I've never thought of him as anything more than a terrible midcard heel.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I didn't think much of him when he first came to WWE but his matches with Benoit made me think he can be a future main-eventer. He matched move for move with him which most superstars aren't able to do. He has plenty of charisma and knows how to work the mic. I don't like MVP as a face however. He gets little face pops but I hope in time they will increase. He's solid in the ring and I believe he needs a new finisher but I'm not nitpicking too much on that. If he continues to improve as a face I can see him being champion by the end of the year.

 

[twig973]

MVP is a solid worker as well as being better than average on the mic. His finisher kind of sucks but he can work on that. Overall, a great in ring competitor that can offer a much needed hand to the WWE. Also, imagine MVP as champion. This opens up so many doors for new feuds. Think about it.....

MVP vs...
-Orton
-HHH
-John Cena
-Christian
-Swagger (this one would be awesome)
-Hardy (either one)

This can only benefit the WWE and its a good move if they can fully utilize him.

 

[ronjoewill16]

mvp was better as a heel. but hes still got wat it takes to be a main eventer. like said earlier, he has the charisma, the mic skill, and the wrestling skill. but hes soooooo...fake! I swear wen he comes out there and does those promos, man i can smell the shit radiating off of him. thus he doesnt work as a face. but hey, all power to him.

 

[BIGJUICYNIPPLES]

whats good about MVP?

he's good on the mic and a good wrestler his match with kofi kingston was great his fued with chris benoit was great he has a superstar look and he isnt a typical oversized oiled up pretty boy,

he clearly has many good things about him, i could say whats good about cm punk, whats good about jeff hardy whats good about cena but theres always good things lol,

he will be a main eventer simply because he's good,

i have a feeling most people who are bashing MVP as we speak are the ones who are just angry at raw and how stale it has gotten,

just my 2 cents

 

[Spunky]

I'd say it's his charisma, He's great on the stick, And easily put's himself over everytime he picks up a microphone, And more importantly he makes the connection with the crowds as well. He is also a good technical wrestler, And seemly has good matches with everyone he steps in ther ring with.

What also helps MVP is, He is a student of the game, He is forever watching tapes of the stars that preceded him, Learning how to use psycology, And how to structure a match properly.

MVP will be great because he has the passion for it.

 

[Hacksaw Highway]

So there. He simply doesn't want his fans to see tattoos he's no longer proud of. I can't blame him.

I've heard of his gang tattoos too, but I don't know if that's the reason. Remember after Kane lit him on fire, he wrestled with the top half of his outfit rolled down. I assume the tattos are on his legs or something, where his boots/knee pads or trunks cover them.

 

[Ben-Phillips]

Alrighty, here we go. MVP is an average wrestler, in-ring wise.. But that's strictly because he has WPW, Wolff-Parkinson White syndrome, no one can say he's truly bad in the ring, as he's average now and, if he hadn't been born with that heart condition, he'd be able to push himself harder in the ring... And considering he's alright now, that means he'd more than likely be, idk.. Great?

His mic skills aren't spectacular, but they are above average.. He's no John Cena or Shawn Michaels, but he's above the likes of Batista (Monster push, no talent OR charisma). MVP I think, was perfectly utilized on SmackDown, SmackDown is the WRESTLING show... RAW is the entertainment show. MVP has troubles connecting with the crowd, if you ask me. Whenever he enters, the crowd pops for a second or two, then goes back to not caring... He was pretty over (heat wise) as a heel, and had more than enough fire under his ass to run away with the World Heavyweight Championship, only reason he didn't, he was still fairly green.

Finisher wise? Yeah... Something needs to change. The Drive By is fine, but I would use that as a setup maneuver for something else, as it doesn't seem THAT impactful, and the Playmaker is just too generic and is hard as hell to pull off. Successful wrestlers succeed most when they have a good, impactful maneuver that can come out of no where. The RKO is the perfect example, there are countless counters into that maneuver, Paydirt, even a Spear.. You need to have a move that will always be fresh and can excite the crowd, and you can work it in, in many different ways to keep things crisp. The Playmaker, is not, is NOT, the move for such.. I can see MVP using something along the lines of a TKO or other form of Cutter, which would be much more efficient.

Personally, I wouldn't push MVP too hard if I was RAW's booking staff, not as a face at least. I personally think the right thing to do with MVP is to push him into the upper card, and earlier next year, prior to WrestleMania, start pushing him into the main event, but not be successful enough to win the championship. Sort of a Jeff Hardy-esque push, test the waters as him as a main eventer who's always just right there, that close to the title, but just can't pull it off, put Money In The Bank on him, and move him back to SmackDown, if his title run isn't successful, which I wouldn't see it being, as he has that problem with connecting to the fans as a face and they just can't get that into/behind him.. I'd turn him heel and have him go back to doing what worked for him.. That "Franchise Playa" gimmick, push the envelope and develop the persona of one who believes the company is built around him and he's the best thing since sliced bread (Or Christian Cage on that note. ; D haha)

**Side Note**

I think MVP is drastically overrated at this moment in time, WWE relies sooo much on the fact that he has the longest WWE United States Championship reign in WWE history.. Uhm.. Okay, let me just say now, there was about five months there where he wasn't even defending it. He'd have a defense every month or two, and would just be in seemingly pointless television vignettes. Granted, there was a time where WWE didn't know what to do with him... Regardless, M.V.P. has the potential to do some great things, and has every tool to be a huge star, he just hasn't got it all together yet.

 

[Chill]

First things first, I think MVP is much better as a heel. When he was heel, I felt he seemed more comfortable and he played the role quite naturally. Now as a face, I'm not sure if it's just me but he appears somewhat forced and almost as if he's trying too hard to get over. I just think that as a heel, MVP displayed more personality and I think he is the type of performer who is easier to boo than to cheer...

Anyway, what's so special about him? Well, at first I thought nothing much...his attire was hard to get used to (now it suits him I think), his ring work was nothing special either. Perhaps Kane was not the best opponent for him to feud with at the start of his career, because obviously considering Kane's heavy hitting ring style, MVP was going to spend a lot of time during matches getting his ass kicked etc. It wasn't until he feuded with Benoit that I sat up and took notice of him.

From that point on I became something of a fan, but when the losing streak kicked in I think that really ruined everything he had achieved up until that point. And why did he receive this burial? Well because he joked about the guy watching him take his urine sample as required by the wellness policy!! Now granted MVP shouldn't have behaved in the way he did, would it not have made more sense for WWE to simply take him off TV for a while rather than completely destroying him on TV for months?? Maybe they don't realize it but that sort of thing hurts them as much as it does MVP, they are to blame for ruining or at least halting the progression of an upcoming star...

Anyway, imo MVP is still trying to recover from the losing streak...not in terms of winning as he has already won the US championship but more in terms of rebuilding his credibility in the ring. Luckily for him, I think he has the character and charisma to get back to where he was, but I'm not sure if he will be able to do it as a face. In general though, I think MVP does have star quality to him and I think he has the drive to succeed, plus with that move he has (ballin or whatever) the crowd seems to interact with him, much like they did with the People's Elbow and so on. I suppose it's half the battle when the people like you and fortunately for MVP people seem to like him but for me I'm still working on becoming a fan of his again...

 

[OIL]

MVP is a very solid wrestler. his matches with Benoit prove this. When they had their match at WM23, i barely watched MVP before that. but after watching the match my opinion changed on him completly. it was a fantastic outing.

since then, his mic skills have been very solid. the crowd loves him, and his ring work just needs to up a bit. i guess not wrestling benoit week in week out will have hindered him, but the work Benoit did on him really helped him.

 

[ThaRaph]

I think people forget that backstage attitude also plays alot in what kind of push a wrestler gets. I got to hang out with MVP in New Orleans after the PPV, and he seems like a very sociable and professional person who can still enjoy himself, and if he's like that in the locker room, maybe they feel that he could very well be the face of the company somewhere down the line

 

[waylonmercy]

MVP isnt my favorite wrestler but I find him fresh in the main event picture which I feel is needed. Maybe he will take a few years to develop his character and find his MVP niche. The fact that he's hanging out/dating whatever a celebrity (im sorry I dont know the situation there) does give him added publicity which WWE is ALWAYS high on. I find him somewhat charismatic, decent in the ring and has a very good look. The wrestling attire brings him down a notch but the most important thing is he's given a chance not rehashing old wrestlers.