What Needs To Happen To Take Things Back?

[Trot]

hey guys,

just want to get some peoples thoughts on what needs to happen to take things back to the attitude era, it was the best time in wrestling imho, and TNA's failed attempt at doing it dosnt satisfy my need for some real, deluded, crazy antics that ust to fill my TV screen,

so as the question states, what needs to happen for Vince to say, Hey, we need to go back to the way it was,

 

[jack--sos]

WWE don't need to go back to the Attitude era, they need to redefine wrestling again which is what the Attiude era did.

But what i think needs to happen is build up the Tag team division again instead of having a small segment of 2 teams for a month then leaving it for 2 months.

Bring back the cruiserweights or a high flying division, challenge TNA's x division

Get more people with mic skills i.e Road Dogg he could bring a crowd to life just by saying a few simple words

 

[Canadian-BadAss]

i agree with Jack, back in the 90's if you herd "Oh You Didn't Know?.." the crowd went crazy. we need more people who can cut good promo's. Right now there is maybe 2 or 3. And by good i mean be able to electrify the crowd. The heels get booed, the faces get a good pop. We dont need to go back to the A.E but maybe actually making it PG, insted of rated G would be a step. take into account all of what you CAN do and still be PG, and do it. Here is the Wikipedia page on it.

TV-PG

(Parental guidance suggested)

This rating signifies that the program may be unsuitable for younger children without the guidance of a parent. Many parents may want to watch it with their younger children. Various game shows and most reality shows are rated TV-PG for their suggestive dialog, suggestive humor, and/or coarse language. Some prime-time sitcoms such as Everybody Loves Raymond, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, The Simpsons, Futurama (on Fox and adult swim airings), Seinfeld, and Dragon Ball Z usually air with a TV-PG rating. Since 2008, all WWE programmings (including its Pay-Per-Views), are rated PG (they were previously TV-14, but the rating was changed to attract more of a family audience and bigger TV sponsors).

The TV-PG rating may be accompanied by one or more of the following sub-ratings:

* D for some suggestive dialogue
* L for infrequent coarse language
* S for some sexual situations
* V for moderate violence

See, so taking out Jericho saying "Assclown" or anything such as that really was not needed, as it Does fit in with PG rating. Look at some of those shows on there. The Simpsons, Futurama, Seinfeld, and Dragon Ball Z. All have use of the word ass, and some use bitch, but it's okay to do in PG. I was just watching an episode of RAW from 1998, and what did i see in the top corner? "TV PG" So if that was PG then, what do we have now? TV G. And they should call it as such, because at the moment, WWE is something they could show on the Disney Channel. Now im not saying thats a bad thing, because it is pulling in the kids. But dont tell us you are PG, when it is clearly not.

 

[Joey B.]

Any talk of WWE going back to more of an "Attitude"-era feel is going to be rendered moot by Linda McMahon's U.S. Senate run. I'm sure Vince feels that Linda is going to get enough heat from her opponent Blumenthal and the Democrat party for what WWE did in the past that he's not going to want to further the heat by doing anything controversial in the current product. And, Canadian, while I do agree with your point that WWE can get away with far more than they are now with the TV-PG rating, I don't think Vince wants to take a chance on anything that can even remotely be considered controversial or "envelope-pushing." I think WWE fans are going to be stuck with what they have now, which is pretty close to a "G" rating, as long as Linda has her hand in politics.

 

[RatedRPiedmont]

Ok people, you really need to get over the Attitude Era, because thats what it was, an ERA. It was a period of time where WWE played to its demographic and how they were.

Teenagers were full of attitude, and WWE decided to target them so they made there product appealing to them.

Now, they are targeting kids, mostly male, ages 7 to 13 (just made that up dont quote it). But the beauty of it is that this program designed for younger people also can appeal to people of all ages.

Do you really care that there is no blood when Randy Orton reversed an Airbourne into an RKO? No.

Did you really miss the NWO when Nexus made their first attack? No.

This business is all about evolutions. Some companies do it well. Ok, one company does it well, which is why they are so successful. The Attitude Era will not come back.

Will the PG Era be around forever? No. It is also an ERA. Things will change and if the product no longer interests you, you can spend your money on plane tickets to Florida to chant "Fire Russo"

 

[blkscrpn5]

Competition, and i mean true competition is needed for the wresting industry to really rise up again. WWF had the NWA and AWA as competition in the 80's and WWE had WCW as competition in the 90's. With out the real competition they have no need to improve and put out a better product. The attitude era was started because they needed to compete with the NWO and the overall WCW product. Now TNA or the Wilpon group or whoever must truly step it up inorder for wrestling to be brought to its former glory. And another thing is that WWE is oversaturating the market with its own programming. and not actually bringign in more ppl.

 

[The Wolf]

See it is not about the ERA it is about the talent. I was watching the best of IC title matches and back in the late 80's early 90's we did not have ERA's we just had Wrestling with talent. Bret Hart, Kurt Henning aka Mr Perfect, early Shawn Michaels, HHH, The Ring master aka SCSA, British Bulldog, all great wrestlers technically now who do we have. Jericho, HHH, Edge, Orton, Ted DeBiase, COdy Rhodes,and the first 4 we saw fight to many times and the other 2 the creative team is droppin the ball. I say change things up put the first 4 back in the Mid Card and Help build up that up and bring back respect to the IC and US titles also makes room for some of the younger guys to step up and totally change the facde of wrestling

 

[GivUponTNA]

What needs to happen is TNA needs the plug pulled on them.The REAL talent in TNA need to jump ship and Get the fuck off the titanic quick.Hogan comes back...Ratings go down. Washed up NEVER WAS'S show up (EV.02) Nothing memorial happens or anything that would increase ratings dramatically.DRAMATICALLY as in 2.0's and 3.0's instead 1.1's. I USE to be a TNA fan.USE to be.But since hogan came back,and this garbage bullkshit with tommy dreamer crying and his ugly ass wife getting air time..I'm through with it. WWE is doing ALOT rite now.PUSHING TWO IWC FAVORITES. THE MIZ (WHO IS VERY OVER RATED AND THE CROWD AT SUMMERSLAM WAS DEAD FOR HIS PROMO) AND BRYAN DANIELSON (WHO is THE BEST IN THE WORLD) What is TNA doing? Trying to get PAUL HEYMAN like he's GOD of creative wrestling. PLEASE,PLEASE JUST GIVE UP ON TNA AND STOP WASTING YOUR TIME AND YOUR PARENTS HARD EARNED MONEY BUYING THERE MERCH AND SUPPORTING THAT BULLSHIT. GET A LIFE TNA FANS. I REMEMBER THE GUY WHO HAD A SIG THAT HAD A PICTURE OF HOGAN AND IT READ "FACE IT PEOPLE THE MAN STILL DRAWS" YEP...HE WAS EXACTLY RIGHT. FUCKTARDS

 

[Ultra Awesome]

For pete's sake man. The Attitude Era is not coming back. The Attitude Era served its purpose a long time ago which was to eliminate the competition (WCW & ECW). The post attitude era was the transaction (if you will) to the coming era, the PG Era. Sure, Chris Benoit's death and Linda's senate run helped spark it but nontheless, it would have eventually come. The PG Era, as much as many die hard fans hate it, is here to stay.

And I believe that no matter how many fans cry about it...Vince will not return the WWE to that point in time. He is making a fortune right now. WWE has become more family-friendly for a reason. And that is to have the "parents" approve of the WWE for their children to watch. With children watching this show, they will most likely want to dress like their heroes (Cena). This is where merchandise comes in. And what do you know. The merchandise sells like crazy.

The fact that "we" don't like the direction the WWE is in right now really does not matter because the company has been more profitable than in recent memory...and to Vince...that is all that matters. Sure, the ppv's have lacked in profit but the merchandise seems to make up for it.

I myself have gotten used to the PG era and I think things are fine the way they are. Of course, everyone misses the good ol' days, but hey...there's nothing we can do about it and we might as well enjoy what is going on. Besides, I feel that this PG era is getting a lot better. Seeing NEXUS vs Team WWE is a lot better than seeing aweful segments involving guest hosts.

 

[mikeyboy]

Jeez people get over it, the attitude era is dead and gone. Vince has been in the biz for years now and has made millions , hell billions of dollars, there is probably a monitary reason he wants to appeal to the kids more than the adults. Think about it for a second, who do you see wearing wrestling related t shirts , kids, who buys the action figures, kids, wrestling isnt bringing in the older crowd the way it used to so he markets it to his audience, he does know what hes doing whether you choose to believe it are not.
These thing seem to go in cycles maybee one day wrestling will become cool again to the mainstream audience and we will have another attitude type era, until then lets stop beating this dead horse and let it rest in peace.please.

 

[Castanedaa99]

LOL...I'm glad a lot of us understand the ATTITUDE ERA is long gone...A lot of fans despise TNA for trying to recreate "WCW" & "ECW" because that was 10-15 years ago...but yet, they want the WWE to re-create the "ATTITUDE ERA", which was around the same timeframe?

Summarizing what a lot of previous posts have said...GET OVER IT!! WWE needs to reinvent themselves, with charismatic wrestlers that can actually work a mic and impress in the ring. Reinvent the Tag division, the US and Intercontinental titles should be used as a stepping stone to the WWE and World Titles...heck, make WRESTLEMANIA the event "where dreams come true" for those that deserve that title. I personally haven't seen a feud going into Wrestlemania be more about the title than just a grudge with the titleholder since Benoit @ WM20

 

[patriotjay]

The Attitude era is gone its not coming back it shouldnt come back..its gonna be ok.

 

[Dave]

hey guys,

just want to get some peoples thoughts on what needs to happen to take things back to the attitude era, it was the best time in wrestling imho, and TNA's failed attempt at doing it dosnt satisfy my need for some real, deluded, crazy antics that ust to fill my TV screen,

so as the question states, what needs to happen for Vince to say, Hey, we need to go back to the way it was,

Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ!

The Attitude Era may be your favourite Era in the history of the WWE but I assure you that not everyone thinks the same way that you do. I liked the days of Hulk Hogan, does that mean that the WWE should go back to the Hogan Era? Of course it doesn’t! Just like any other thing that wants to survive, the WWE has evolved and at this point, you can either get on board or get out of the way.

However, for the purposes of amusing you in this thread, I will say that the very worst case scenario has to happen before Vince McMahon decides to take the WWE back to the fucking wrestling dark ages again. I mean, they must be very desperate to turn the ship around and go back to what made them stand out from WCW. I honestly think that they would be on the precipice of going out of business before the pulled the Attitude Era tactics out of the bag.

All of the development that has been put into the new breed of superstars would be gone and you would see someone like Randy Orton carry the WWE on his back. For me, I am very happy with the way that the WWE does it’s business now. Not only is it more stable financially, it is the best wreslting promotion in the world.

Get a grip.

 

[Gooner]

I think steps are already being taken to partially revert the WWE back to what it was. Over the last two years we've seen a dwindling tag team division - with more titles than there were tag teams. Then they decided to unify them at WrestleMania 25, they put the titles on Jeri-Show who brought a little prestige back to the belts and the only way is up for the tag team division which has been at an all time low. Now with the impending feud between Laycool and Melina, we are perhaps seeing the beginning of the same in the equally weak Women's division and unify the Diva's and Women's titles (Long overdue in my opinion).

The US & IC titles will hopefully be kept seperate to keep the midcard on each brand fresh and exciting. But perhaps (and I may be jumping the gun here) the two world championships will soon be unified, hopefully by or at WrestleMania 27. Perhaps Barrett unifies them just like his mentor did ten years earlier, we'll see.

Then only the champions can appear on both shows, thus having the benefit of having longer and better feuds. Plus this will give those who are the IC or US champs and even tag champs a chance to prove themselves on a more regular basis instead of sporadic appearances.

The World Title Picture would look like this - Taker, Kane, HHH, Mysterio, Cena, Orton, Sheamus, Edge, Miz, Big Show and Jericho - hoping the older Superstars vacate their spots soon though - by 2012.

The IC/US title picture - Bryan, Riley, Barrett, Morrison, MVP, Truth, Kofi, Rhodes, DiBiase, Ziggler, Punk, Swagger, Chavo, Masters, McIntyre, Hardy, Christian

Womens title picture - Melina, Maryse, Kelly Kelly, Laycool, Phoenix, Eve, Gail Kim, Alicia Fox and Serena

Tag Title Picture - Nexus, SES, Hart Dynasty, Usos, Hawkins + Archer, Croft + Beretta, Santino + Kozlov, Cryme Tyme Henry + Big Zeke, Yoshi + Goldust, Bourne + Kaval (would love to see that).

For those not in the title picture at the time, it gives them enough oppenents to keep them busy until its their turn to enter the fray.
I know it is a lot more complicated than that and it will take a lot of reshuffling but if the roster works out the way I wish it will then Raw, SD and even Superstars will be compulsive viewing.

This gives all the main roster bar a few to have something to do during the show. Plus they should also bring back brand exclusive PPVs, this would enhance feuds as they would have at the most 8 weeks to build it up gradually instead of throwing them together two weeks before the event, but I digress. Let me know what you think!!!