What Movie Ruined Your Favorite Superhero Or Villain For You?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Mitch Henessey

Deploy the cow-catcher......
Staff member
Moderator
There have been many great superheros and villains that originated from comic books, books, cartoons, and video games that have made their way to movies. In some cases, the movie did a good job of portraying the superhero or villain, but in some other cases, the movie did a terrible job.

I'm going to provide a some examples of which movies ruined my favorite superhero or villain. I'll start with Spider-Man 3 (2007). That movie absolutely KILLED Venom for me. I remember watching the trailers a dozen times because I was so excited Venom was actually going to be put into the movie. I don't know if it was Sam Raimi's idea or not cast Topher Grace to play Venom, but it was a horrible choice. Throughout the whole movie, Eddie Brock comes of as this whiny little wimp of a weasel. If you've seen Spider-Man comics, and watched various versions of Spider-Man cartoons, you'll see that Brock was a bad ass, and a psycho. Even when Top her did become Venom at the end of the movie, he still didn't seem like a true villain. Being a huge fan of Spider-Man, it really pissed me off with how they did Venom. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they won't do the same thing with The Sinister Six.

The X-Men film series also killed Rogue for me. Again, if you've read the comic books, and watched the cartoons, you'll also see Rogue had more swagger to her, and was also a bad ass. She could actually fly, and would beat the crap out the enemy. In the movies, she was this shy and scared girl who looked like she didn't belong, and she never really did anything important. Unless you want to count Magneto kidnapping her at the end of the 1st movie.

So what movie ruined your favorite superhero or villain for you? Thoughts?
 
I'm also going to have to say Spiderman 3, but because it ruined Spiderman himself for me. When Pete takes in the Venom symbiote in the comics/old tv show, he does not dance around as some pretty boy with an emo-style haircut/hair flip every 20 seconds sort of guy. And to me, that is what he was in that film. I believe they could have portrayed him so much better then they did.

At the same time, they did in fact ruin Venom by having him portrayed by such a small guy in Topher Grace. They should have had him portrayed by a bigger guy, can't quite pick someone though. Also, the character should have been more badass, and on edge, a little more leniant to the psychotic side of mentality, even before fully becoming Venom. This movie was truly disappointing for me all around. I am hoping with this potential fourth one in the works, that it is much, much better.
 
I'm also going to have to say Spiderman 3, but because it ruined Spiderman himself for me. When Pete takes in the Venom symbiote in the comics/old tv show, he does not dance around as some pretty boy with an emo-style haircut/hair flip every 20 seconds sort of guy. And to me, that is what he was in that film. I believe they could have portrayed him so much better then they did.

Yeah, I also couldn't stand how Peter turned out after he got the black suite. The symbiote is supposed to bring out the DARK side of who ever it bonds with. Having to watch Tobey Maguire prance around in the streets, and do those goofy dance moves was just painful. Some of you might point out the part where he hits Mary Jane in the bar, but that moment still didn't have an evil feel to it.
 
I'm also going to have to say Spiderman 3, but because it ruined Spiderman himself for me. When Pete takes in the Venom symbiote in the comics/old tv show, he does not dance around as some pretty boy with an emo-style haircut/hair flip every 20 seconds sort of guy. And to me, that is what he was in that film. I believe they could have portrayed him so much better then they did.

I never really understood it either. I watched the Spider-man animated series when I was younger religiously and THAT Spider-Man was evil. He did all that cool stuff like spin Rhino on his horn and threatened people. Not dance around like a ******ed Chippendale's dancer. Oh and by the way, WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THE SUIT COME OUTTA HIS SKIN! It came out of his skin on the cartoon and that alone set it apart from his Spidey Suit. It looked evil and had a different symbol, not a spray painted version of his regular suit.
 
My fave hero used to be Superman. The original Superman movie from 1979 was awesome. I will not get into the sequels, simply because of them being before my time, plus I never paid much attention to them anyway.

But Superman Returns was ******ed. The guy wasn't even buff.

Comic Superman:

595supermandccomicposte.jpg


Superman Returns:

supermann.jpg


No further argument needed. Now, if they decide to make a movie about the death of Superman, with Doomsday and all the different versions of the hero following his demise...that might save the franchise in my eyes. Might.
 
If I had to make a choice, I would say Mr. Freeze in Batman and Robin.

While the Freeze backstory was developed in the animated series and was chosen to be that background to him, I just feel that the cheesey attitude really took the wind of him, not much to mention having Arnie in the role. The way I loved how Freeze was depicted was a genius and intelligent science who was sinister but had a heart. In B&R, he was more about having cheesey lines and just purely attacking Gotham without a motive until he thinks his wife is dead. In addition, this was a man who didn't rely on thugs or extras to do his work, he was in the heart of the action and would stand tall, he wouldn't freeze a few people, bugger off and let the crones take on the rest. He just fell into stereotype and was far from a Mr. Freeze that was just purely awesome in the Animated Series and the comics that followed.

From this
freeze.gif


to this
mr-freeze.gif


Enough said!

The X-Men film series also killed Rogue for me. Again, if you've read the comic books, and watched the cartoons, you'll also see Rogue had more swagger to her, and was also a bad ass. She could actually fly, and would beat the crap out the enemy. In the movies, she was this shy and scared girl who looked like she didn't belong, and she never really did anything important. Unless you want to count Magneto kidnapping her at the end of the 1st movie.

To be fair though, the Rogue of the Cartoons was post-Miss. Marvel Rogue who had taken her powers to the point where she could retain them and naturally her confidence sprewed out of her as she was a mature woman by then.

Rogue in the films was going through the powers for the first time and was being the prime example about how scary change can be for anyone, especially when you have mutant powers. Naturally her story was about coping with the power she had and she was naturally scared to the point where she wanted rid of her powers, so the differences is more about how time has gotten on between them. Film = First discovering the power and trying to cope with it; Cartoon = Coping and using the power to full strength.
 
If I had to make a choice, I would say Mr. Freeze in Batman and Robin.

While the Freeze backstory was developed in the animated series and was chosen to be that background to him, I just feel that the cheesey attitude really took the wind of him, not much to mention having Arnie in the role. The way I loved how Freeze was depicted was a genius and intelligent science who was sinister but had a heart. In B&R, he was more about having cheesey lines and just purely attacking Gotham without a motive until he thinks his wife is dead. In addition, this was a man who didn't rely on thugs or extras to do his work, he was in the heart of the action and would stand tall, he wouldn't freeze a few people, bugger off and let the crones take on the rest. He just fell into stereotype and was far from a Mr. Freeze that was just purely awesome in the Animated Series and the comics that followed.

From this
freeze.gif


to this
mr-freeze.gif


Enough said!

Yeah they did screw up Mr.Freeze pretty bad in Batman & Robin. I love Arnold in the Terminator movies, and in his other action films, but he just seemed awkward for this role. The Batman movies from this era were just way to cartoonish. Luckily Christopher Nolan came along and resurected this franchise.

Also, I get what you're saying about Rogue. It's just that she was another character I was excited to see in the film, and I was expecting her to be the kick ass version of Rogue from the comic books and cartoons.
 
My fave hero used to be Superman. The original Superman movie from 1979 was awesome. I will not get into the sequels, simply because of them being before my time, plus I never paid much attention to them anyway.

But Superman Returns was ******ed. The guy wasn't even buff.

Comic Superman:

595supermandccomicposte.jpg


Superman Returns:

supermann.jpg


I might almost agree with you except for that factor that Brandon Routh was bulking up a little for the scene were he has his costume taken off him at the end of the film, but was also under direction from his body building coach to not put on too much muscle or the costume (already made from body casts taken of Brandon months earlier) just would not fit.

Rather than the plain old Spandex costume that Christopher Reeve had, there would only be a small amount of room to adjust the costumes for the new film so it was a case of expose and define what was already there, rather than too much actual bulking up.

Plus the actual redsign of the actual costume itself didn't do him any favours. Brandon is not short by any means, but to have that high neck line and those Speedo style red shorts just made him look disproportionately taller and thinner, it created something of an optical illusion which was also emphasised by the lighter blue against the darker red cape.

All in all, and though I have sort of got used to it, and despite that fact that thought the film was called SUPERMAN RETURNS but he does not really get given much to do that is very super, the costume was really on to a loser from the start. It did present a Superman costume that, in theory, had all the right components but it presented them in the worst possible combination.

That and the fact that Kevin Spacey is just not Gene Hackman.
 
Spider Man 3 ruined everyone in that film for me. Venom died way too fast, Spidey was an unbelievable douche, Sandman was really lame at he end with the whole flying into the sunset at the end, and Harry with his turning good then auto dieing.

The Dark Knight ruined Two Face. He died not long after becoming Two Face and it was in a cool way either.
 
How has no one mentioned Catwoman yet? I loved Catwoman in the Batman shows and film, and she was/is great in all of the cartoons. I heard Halle Berry was cast, and figured it was a return to the time of Eartha Kitt, and was excited to see what would happen, and it turned to pure shit before my eyes. It took away all of the love I had for the previous incarnations, and I'm hoping that if they bring Salina Kyle back, it's with a better story, and dare I say it, a better actress, at least for this role.
 
Like many before me have said, Spiderman 3 ruined Venom for me. Just the idea that Eric Foreman was Venom was ridiculous. The cgi really did not help it out either. I just could not buy any of it as Venom, from the actor to the digital version, it seemed so off. Hopefully, the rumor about Carnage being in the next film is correct but only as long as he is not created and acted poorly such as Venom.
 
Like many before me have said, Spiderman 3 ruined Venom for me. Just the idea that Eric Foreman was Venom was ridiculous. The cgi really did not help it out either. I just could not buy any of it as Venom, from the actor to the digital version, it seemed so off. Hopefully, the rumor about Carnage being in the next film is correct but only as long as he is not created and acted poorly such as Venom.

I heard that Venom will be ressurected for the next movie. But for this to be interesting they need to have a glorified movie badass take over that role. I think this could be done since if you remember a tiny piece of the symbiote was left with Dr. Conners at the lab for testing. Maybe with Carnage could come in and have a three way feud for power between Venom, Spider-Man, and Carnage.
 
How has no one mentioned Catwoman yet? I loved Catwoman in the Batman shows and film, and she was/is great in all of the cartoons. I heard Halle Berry was cast, and figured it was a return to the time of Eartha Kitt, and was excited to see what would happen, and it turned to pure shit before my eyes. It took away all of the love I had for the previous incarnations, and I'm hoping that if they bring Salina Kyle back, it's with a better story, and dare I say it, a better actress, at least for this role.

Yeah, The Catwoman movie was another catostraphe. Halle Berry just didn't seem right in this role. The movie it self was just horrible. They turned Catwoman into this glamour type diva, and the rivarlry between her, Sharon Stone, and that guy from The Matrix, was just silly, but hey, at least Michelle Pfeiffer did a great job in Batman Returns.
 
Spawn, good god does anybody remember this piece of shit?, the comic book was one of my all time favorites and they somehow manged to completely shit all over it, the acting as pure shit, special FX were garbage, felt like they just through together the story in about 15 mins. and casting was down right atrocious, I mean for fuck sake Al Simmons best friend in the comic, Terry, is black, in the movie is white as fucking snow, hell they left key characters out, just a god awful movie

Another and more recent one would be Ghost Rider, Nichols Cage is pure shit, the guy needs to quit making movies right fucking now, not only was he shit as usual in this movie but the story was plague with huge glaring plot holes through out, when all these super hero movies started coming out Ghost Rider was one that I thought could be fucking sick as hell and one that I was hoping would be made, and it ended up being anything but
 
Another and more recent one would be Ghost Rider, Nichols Cage is pure shit, the guy needs to quit making movies right fucking now, not only was he shit as usual in this movie but the story was plague with huge glaring plot holes through out, when all these super hero movies started coming out Ghost Rider was one that I thought could be fucking sick as hell and one that I was hoping would be made, and it ended up being anything but

Yeah, Ghost Rider was shit, and Cage has been making a bunch of shit movies ever since National Treasure 2. Ghost Rider was horrible.You never really knew if the Ghost Rider was a villain,hero,or vigalante? I had such high expectations for this movie, and I was so disappointed. That damn voice he had when he was the Ghost Rider was so annoying, and silly. The whole movie was just very cheesy, and I've read online that they plan on making a sequel:suspic:

But hey, at least Eva Mendes was nice to look at in this movie.
 
Spiderman 3 killed Carnage. First, they guy who played him was Topher Grace... TOPHER GRACE!! A skinny nerdy wuss as bad-ass Venom? Stan Lee rolled in his grave and he aint even dead. Someone with a lot more build would of been better.

Ghost Rider could of been better, I would not go as far as saying it sucked but Nicholas Cage ruined one of the best marvel characters.

Also, in Origins Wolverine. I was not impressed with how they handled Deadpool, as the movie makers did not stick with Marvel canon. Although he was in the Weapon X program, he never had those swords pop out of his arms. Although a movie for him is in the works, Marvel needs to kick ass for that one.

And finally, George Clooney as Batman... ugh nuff said!
Glad Christian Bale became the best Batman ever (imo).
 
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Doctor Doom in the Fantastic Four series. One of the greatest villains ever and they completely screwed him up. In about 600 issues of the Fantastic Four never one NOT ONCE did we ever see his face. That's a reason why he wears that mask. He had an accident on an experiment and it ruined his face. Its a big part of his mystique. And they cast handsome ladies man Julian McMahon and show him without his mask. WTF! Number 2 in the comics Doom is the undisputed ruler of his own country. A dictator of sorts and that added to the power that was Victor Von Doom. He was nothing like that in the movies! UGH.

Oh and there is Galactus. They freaking turned the great Devourer of Worlds into a giant cloud. I mean come on! Every time Galactus is involved in a storyline its special. There is an aura of invincibility about Galactus. How can you screw this up.
galactus.jpg
The made the second movies about the Silver Surfer when it should have been about Galactus. And in no way does the Surfer have the power to destroy Galactus as he did in the movie.
 
Well. I most wholeheartedly agree that Catwoman killed any hope that Catwoman would have on film. Michelle Pfeiffer did her character such a service in Batman Returns, only to have her shit on by the combined powers of Halle Berry and whoever the fuck else was in that movie.

Tim Burton gave a great life to Batman with Batman and Batman Returns. Michael Keaton was and still is the best Batman to date. Christian Bale has handled him well, but Keaton was the original and the best. George Clooney almost ended it all for me, with him doing what he did and playing Batman as gay without any sort of creative input from anyone related to the comics or the original idea of Batman. If Bob Kane or Miller had given him the go ahead, then fine. You don't take such large licenses with a character. Especially when that character regularly fucking takes in younger children in to help him fight crime. Do we want people openly accusing Batman of molesting Robin more than is already whispered in jokes? No thanks, and fuck you George Clooney.

I would say that the portrayal of Frodo Baggins and Harry Potter in their respective movies killed those characters for me. In The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, Frodo's adventures with Sam degenerated into nothing more than Frodo crying and Sam threatening to butt fuck him if he didn't keep going. In The Harry Potter films Harry's crying was turned on full throttle. He complained in the books, sure. And it annoyed me then. But on screen? A 20 foot tall and crying Harry Potter is infinitely worse, and is what has made me not watch a Harry Potter movie sense The Goblet of Fire. Why? I knew the 5th book is where Harry kicked his crying into overdrive, and I refuse to watch anymore than I was forced to already watch in the first 4 films.
 
I've actually NOT watched a LOT of super-hero movies due to things i've read about them before they came out.

-I wouldn't watch FF:ROTSS after finding out that Galactus was going to be a cloud and not a planet eating God.
-I watched all of X-Men 1 and that was reason enough not to watch anything else X-Men related in the cinema.
-I wouldn't watch Iron Man because Robert Downy Jr is Tony Stark (sorry, i hate RD jr)
-I've been intrigued to see if Edward Norton could do The Hulk justice, but i've never really liked the character anyway, so didn't bother.
- Nic Cage as Ghost Rider put me off straight away.
- Neither Punisher movies seemed worth watching.

And from the other movies mentioned so far, i agree with all the comments made so far, but a couple more for you would be Ozymandias in 'Watchmen', and V in 'V for Vendetta'. V wasn't presented to be anywhere near as psychotic as he is the book, and in 'Watchmen' it was painfully obvious from the moment that he speaks that he was the villain, whereas in the book, you're not given the slightest indication until Nite-Owl and Rorschach figure it out for themselves 5/6s of the way though.
 
I'm gonna go with, X-Men Origins: Wolverine. They ruined my all time favorite Comic Book character; Deadpool. Now before I say anything about WHAT they did, the actor, Ryan Reynolds is the actor for Deadpool (Thus the film, Deadpool, coming out in like 2012 or so). But Origins made him into Weapon XI, who looked like fuckin Baraka from Mortal Kombat 2 an shit. Complete with Cyclops' laser's and every other mutant's power in the movie almost. How do you SHUT Deadpool up!? Make him into Weapon XI and sow his mouth shut... BULLshit. Another mention is the natural choice, Venom. Topher Grace had no business playing Eddie Brock, Eddie Brock is a fuckin behemoth. They shoulda got someone liek Brock Lesnar to play him (Kinda looks like him, big enough size, he can't act but neither could Topher.)
 
Spiderman 3 ruined Venom i mean little,wimpy, douchey eric foreman as cool, psychotic, badass, venom i mean give me a break whoever did the casting for that movie should be fired dragged into the street and shot i mean venom was one of my favorite comic book characters and they ruined him.
 
Spiderman 3 is It is godawful in every single way. You know when things are so bad that they're funny? Yeah well, they couldn't even get that right. This is so bad that it's not funny at all, just annoying and an absolute chore to attempt to sit through. They ruined Venom (and many have mentioned why), they ruined Spidey (colour me shocked that Tobey still has a career after this one)... hell, they even ruined the Grandmother who seemed to have been instructed to play her role in the most irritating way possible. What a disaster.

You know, I'm tempted to submit Watchmen as my answer. It's not even like it was the worst thing I've ever seen but it really did ruin the graphic novel for me. It was exceptionally poor casting (minus Rorschach because I LOVE Jackie Earle Haley) which ruined many characters off the bat for me. I really don't get how Malin Akerman is making a career of acting because she is terrible ALL THE TIME. Why was Matthew Goode cast as Ozy? And WHY was Ozy played so sinister from the very beginning? Let's dumb things down and make them as obvious as possible! Then of course they fucked up the plot itself, most notably the ending. It wasn't so much the change that bothered me, even though that sucked too, but the way they went about it was just wrong. The music choices were a fail in my opinion. I get what they were trying to do but other than being able to point out a cliche (the audience reaction was equivalent to golf claps) they disrupted the film and made a lot of things unintentionally funny. The novel is infinitely better.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread

Members online

No members online now.

Forum statistics

Threads
174,846
Messages
3,300,834
Members
21,727
Latest member
alvarosamaniego
Back
Top