What is Next for Joe?

[A.J.]

Now after hard Justice it looks like the end of the whole Kurt Angle/ SamoaJoe feud as I doubt that TNA will really carry it on. Now that Joe is done being Angle's whipping boy what is Joe going to done now? He has had three title matches and lost all. I really see no feud out there for him to go at as Joes future looks bleak right now. I cant reall see him any real feuds for awhile. So i have no idea what TNA will do with Joe now

Thoughts?

 

[RVDgurl]

Good question, AJ. I think TNA really dropped the ball with Joe. They spent over a year hyping him, and deservedly so. Unfortunately for Joe, the aquisition of the mighty Kurt Angle put an end to his push pretty damn quick. Why TNA decided the throw Joe to Angle, I'll never know. Angle is already well established and didn't need to squash Joe to get over. Joe should have gotten his title reign long before Angle did. I see Joe floundering in mid card status for the next few months. It appears he'll get to watch a few more people, who are less deserving, get the strap before he enters the title picture again.

 

[justinsayne]

Very good question phantom mod sir, I think Joe is going to be out of the main event picture for awhile, but from the looks of what went down on Imapact last week, it looks like Joe might have a feud with 3D, but I don't know, or possibly a feud with Christian Cage, or one of his followers (Tomko or AJ), and I think that would be the best case scenario, but I agree with RVDgurl TNA will most likely drop the ball with him and Joe will be stuck at mid card status for awhile, he could possibly go back to the X-Division, that is if they don't bring that to an end

 

[SOULSLASHER]

Samoa Joe might end up leaving for WWE Circus soon if they don t keep him happy so they better raise the stakes higher and pay him more like they did to Ron Killings or they ll lose him ! Second of all they are trying to bring in Rikishi so they can build him up like a Umaga clone on TNA so they might be the next feud already but seriously the only feud Kurt Angle can possibly have now is not Samoa Joe but CHRIS JERICHO again on TNA !!! yeah baby!!

 

[Rockmeister]

Joe's not going to be around much longer. Once his contract's up, if he's smart, he'll bolt and never look back. Hopefully he goes back to ROH or takes himself overseas to Japan where he might actually get some respect (and be free of redneck bitch-run wrestling federations)

 

[RVDgurl]

Joe's not going to be around much longer. Once his contract's up, if he's smart, he'll bolt and never look back. Hopefully he goes back to ROH or takes himself overseas to Japan where he might actually get some respect (and be free of redneck bitch-run wrestling federations)

I would throw a party if Joe returned to ROH. I have a feeling that he will be taking his services elsewhere when his current contract expires if TNA doesn't start to show a little more appreciation for him. Joe is a god in ROH, so what reason would he have to stick around in TNA in mid card status?

 

[Dj Martyn]

i reckons he will be tossed a quicki showcase match with AJ or Daniels for no surrender and then get the title at BFG. they will slap the belt on him asap to keep him around, its time for kurt to step off the top and start a program just below the main event.

 

[MrBurgess]

You know what people you are all missing the point when u continuely say that Joe should go back to ROH. There is nothing left for him to accomplish there, and if him and other current TNA wrestlers go to ROH then its going to push people who deserve to be on the ROH CARD OFF OF there shows. Besides that Joe has to support himself and his family now that he is married. Joe is currently has a six figure deal in TNA and is probably going to making even more in the future. If he has any sense and I think he does, he will stay even though some bad booking has been takin place. Joe knows that it is better to be a big fish in a small pond TNA pond and make six figures, then go anywhere else and make less. And for the record regardless of what any ROH fans want to think ROH cannot pay him what TNA is paying him. AS far as who Joe should move on to feud with I think he should feud with the Christian Coalition for September leading to a Triple Threat at Bound for Glory between Joe vs Christian vs Angle for the TNA World Championship. IF they do that then I will be ordering No Surrender and Bound For Glory Pay-Per-Views.

 

[CIA]

I wouldn't blame Samoa Joe one bit for going to ROH and leaving TNA. For almost a year now he has been built up to finally win the strap. The stakes were as high as they could get. Hard Justice was THE best possible time for Joe to finally win the title. He had everything in his favor. Everything was perfect. Of course TNA had to blow it though.

 

[PrimoEco]

Joe was being built up for a huge world title run, but then Angle had to pop into the scene. I think the people that make these decisions are hypocrites. TNA likes to say that they are better than WWE because they are more about pure wrestling. Well when you have guys like Samoa Joe who have actually earned the top spot being bumped down because some WWE reject shows up, thats not pure wrestling. I like Angle. He's damn good, but he made his name somewhere else. Samoa Joe is TNA. the first TNA match I ever saw featured Samoa Joe demolishing someone. I was hooked ever since--because of Joe! TNA needs to stay true to the fan base that put them on the map. Right now, they are not. They only care about ratings and money; not about the persons that worked hard to take the company to where it's at now. If it werent for guys like Samoa Joe, TNA wouldnt mean shit and it wouldnt be on TV and Angle would have never even considered working for a backwater promotion like TNA. I think TNA needs to do the right thing and put that World belt around Samoa Joe's waste by the end of the year. He isnt going back to ROH or anywhere else, but he's gonna let TNA know that he can leave and that WWE will throw an offer his way as soon as Joe leaves. TNA is afraid of losing Joe to the WWE so they will throw more money and a promise of a World title run that lasts longer than Sting's run....

 

[A.J.]

Well I think we all can agree that Angle coming to TNA was ok, but all it did was make Joe his official whipping boy and killed any momentum Joe had at getting the TNA Championship around his waist. Like back in the day when Monty Brown was gong to get the strap but Cage showed up and killed Brown's shot at gold. For Joe his is TNA and should have the damn belt but he dont and its crap he will push below some of the WWE rejects that are coming and prolly job to some of them as well. Right now things dont look good for Joe and it looks like Styles and Joe the real wrestlers of TNA will soon be buried.

 

[ImpactPlayer27]

Well, I thought I had heard him on a radio interview that he has no desire to go to the WWE, because he claimed he didn't fit the definition according to Vince of a "wrestler." The only thing I can see is like what was mentioned earlier in this thread and that is Joe winning at Bound for Glory. Title changes genuinely seem to happen at Slammiversary and Bound For Glory anyway. And if BFG is going to be where the title changes hands, then who else could it possibly be that would take it? I mean Abyss won't win at No Surrender. I just can't see Angle losing to him. Sting has been out of the world title picture for too long and I don't know when we're going to see Jeff Jarrett again. So the only possibilities like mentioned earlier is Samoa Joe and/or Christian Cage. Because TNA hasn't established anyone enough to be in the title hunt. Chris Harris is not ready yet and seems to be stuck in this thing with Dustin Rhodes aka Black Reign. Nor is Robert Roode ready because they spent too much time having him in his program with Eric Young. So Joe and Cage are the only logical options. And if Abyss is going to start a rivalry with James Mitchell's new boy, then that means Abyss is out too.

As far as why Joe hasn't gotten the belt yet, it can also be his health. Joe is not exactly 100%. I heard he's got a bulging disc or some kind of back problems. But he's been working through the pain. So maybe TNA would like Joe to be healthy and in good shape if he's going to be the one to wear the built and basically hoist the company on his shoulders. As for Kurt Angle's push, I feel it's cause TNA needs a top heel. Jarrett can't be that forever since he's not exactly young anymore. Christian Cage, they tried it with him and it just didn't take. So right now, they're experimenting with Kurt Angle. And it seems to be paying off. And I don't think that this is the end of the rivalry. It's certainly over for the time being. But down the road, they will fight again. I'm sure of that.

 

[crumblez]

joe should have had the title before angle even showed up.. Joe seems like an intelligent individual and seems like he has an actual desire to be apart of something. I don't think he'll be bought into the WWE. If he does I'd be let down to see him feuding with Umaga.. cause god knows thats what they'll do

 

[justinsayne]

Well it looks like they are going to have Joe feud with Christian, which I think could be a pretty decent feud, I'm actually looking forward to seeing the matches between the two, and with the way TNA drags feuds out, this one could end up going till BFG

 

[A.J.]

I think a Joe and Christian feud be great as the match that had at Destination X for the World title wasnt that bad. I think a longer feud be good as Joe could finally be the guy to pin or submit cage for the first time. I just hope TNA dont have Joe get squashed by Cage though.

 

[Uncle Sam]

If Joe wants to be a whiny bitch and run back to ROH crying about how he never got the world title, so be it. The fact is that Joe will get the title eventually, probably at BFG and I'm sure that this has been explained to him. For now, I see Joe having a few crappy fueds with heavyweights. God, I miss the days of 2005 when they didn't just throw guys together because they had nothing better to do. Joe would do well being a leading man in the rebuilding of the shattered X Division, but it's not going to happen.

 

[magic]

I think the thing people are missing the most here was that he was built up as an X-DIVISION monster. I know he also beat some people in the heavyweight division but for the first year he was in the x-division. I think people need to patient with Joe because he should get his title run when TNA has a 2 hour impact. And also now he will feud with the Coalition and will have the best heel in TNA(yes Christian is the best heel not Angle) vs the current best face, Joe(for now until AJ turns face cause in my opinion he is the best wrestler in the business) and with Sting vs Angle looking to headline Bound for Glory Joe won't be in the title picture for awhile but when he finally does get it it will be a big night.

 

[ImpactPlayer27]

I just read that according to a posting on Joe's site, he said that the rumors that he wanted to go to the WWE were complete bull. Sounds like he's happy with TNA. And I'm being patient with Joe getting the belt. Just worried that all these guys from the WWE coming in might bury the former big time players of TNA such as Joe, Daniels and Styles

 

[bigcity]

Although I doubt it happens, I would love to see Joe go to WWE. i think if used right he could put on some good matches with Punk, the Hardys, MVP, Umaga and some of the top talents. He proablly start in ECW first then work up to either raw or smackdown and linger in the IC/US title picture. I think it would be good for WWE to bring in a top guy from somewhere else that everybody knows, and use him in a main event/mid card role. It would be like the old days when top guys would move between WCW and WWF and create new and different matches.

 

[ACTAFOOL]

4get it, joe himself said he wouldnt leave TNA for less money, so unless WWE offers him a big contract right away, he wont leave TNA, and i really doubt WWE will do this, so in other words, joe stays in TNA

is this bad or good? i love it, WWE would ruin joe IMO, he could have some good matches with punk, but not as good as they had in other promotions since WWE would be holding both back, but thats about it, why does every1 wanna see a umaga and joe feud? just cuz they're 2 fat samoans? joe is light years ahead of Umaga in terms of wrestling, umaga should just get squashed by joe, though i dont see the fun in that, i dont see the fun in this fued at all =/

joe in TNA is better cuz

1) they dont hold him back in terms of wrestling

2) TNA IS very high on him right now since hes one of the few guys that has a six figure contract, many WWE rejects dont have that

3) after a couple of months and some little feuds angle has and TNA gets 2 hours, im sure joe will be at the top again to take those belts off of kurt and have his long, deserved reign

i dont know why ppl say joe deserves it so much, sure hes great, but so is angle, and he wasnt with TNA that long, hes been there about 2 years, u wanna know some talent that really deserve the belt?? how about the x division guys that were with TNA from the get go? or jarrett who helped build the company? and many tag team guys, like chris harris and james storm who were also always behind TNA

sure joe is great, but so are many other guys, he should get the belt, but i dont think waiting a couple of months is gonna kill any1, WWE holds back real talent 90% of the time and i dont see so many ppl bitching about them

look at where cm punk is... the c show and isnt even champ, he just got the belt cuz morrison got screwed with the whole steroids thing... joe wouldnt be any bigger, and he desrves more than that, the only place that will pay joe what he wants and make him as big as he wants to be is TNA

 

[magic]

actafool i agree with everything you said except that bit about Double J. As much as i thank Jarret for starting up TNA its not like he never had the belt before. He was in the championchip picture for what 4 and half years before having to take the time off to be with his wife. And don't think i'm some unsympathetic person i'm not just guys who deserve runs right are Abyss, Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles, Chris Harris(not so much James Storm right now) and Christian Cage who's run was cut short in my opion cause he was gold and is probably the best heel in the whole business right now. Plus people be patient with Joe he'll have it soon and i know i'll be won of the people gonig nuts for him when he finally wins the gold.

 

[ACTAFOOL]

actafool i agree with everything you said except that bit about Double J. As much as i thank Jarret for starting up TNA its not like he never had the belt before. He was in the championchip picture for what 4 and half years before having to take the time off to be with his wife. And don't think i'm some unsympathetic person i'm not just guys who deserve runs right are Abyss, Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles, Chris Harris(not so much James Storm right now) and Christian Cage who's run was cut short in my opion cause he was gold and is probably the best heel in the whole business right now. Plus people be patient with Joe he'll have it soon and i know i'll be won of the people gonig nuts for him when he finally wins the gold.

ya i have to agree with you on the jarrett thing, though i only mentioned him cuz he is a big part of the company, though i also dont think he should get another title run for a long time, he was in the title picture much too long, like u said, but in all fairness not many guys, despite how good they were in the ring, could carry TNA on their own at that time IMO, but still, i agree he should be one of the last guys on the list in terms of next title reign

and i, like you, cant wait till joe gets his run, but ppl think joe is like a god, that no1 else deserves that belt except him, and that just pisses me off sometimes cuz there are many ppl there who deserve that belt, but some reigns come faster some reigns take longer, its always been that way in wrestling, hell i thought cm punk should have been ECW champ after like 3 months lol, and i am a joe smark, i think hes just as good as angle in ring (wich isnt easy) and i agree he is one of the best wrestlers out there nowadays but ppl need to be more patient, angle is THE guy to be holding the TNA belt for when it goes to 2 hours, its smart buisness, so lets chill for a while...

 

[magic]

yeah act, i agree, its the samething they did when they moved to spike. They had Jarret have the title because he was the biggest name they had at the time, last year the move to prime time they had Sting as the champ and now with the move to 2 hours they have Angle, which i agree with because that gives them a better chance becuase an average person might not know Samoa Joe or AJ Styles but they will know who Angle is and that will draw them in and guys like like that will keep them there.
When i first started watching TNA it was similar, i was looking for Jeff Hardy, i found out where he was tuned in to FSN and saw an AJ Styles match...I've been hooked ever since.

 

[Papa Shango]

Back in 1999, WCW management heard that Chris Benoit, one of the fan favorites, was unhappy and was planning on leaving after his contract ran out. In an act of desperation, WCW put the World title on Benoit. Benoitsaw through it, and left anyway. He knew that he was not in line for a long title reign, not when the other contenders were huge names like Nash, Hogan, DDP and the Hitman.
This is the same thing TNA will do with Joe. They will try to slap the belt on him to get him to stay. But with stars like Christian, Angle, Sting, and Jarrett as contenders, odds are it will be a short title reign, and eventually Joe will end up like Styles and Daniels. If Joe is smart, he'll pull a Benoit and go to the competition, where he has friends in high places, just like Benoit did.

 

[gthletic]

I think that Joe will screw Angle out of the X Division and Tag Titles at No Surrender, and that will lead to one final showdon between Joe and Angle and Bound For Glory, in some type of stipulation, where Joe ill FINALY win the belt.