Todays Wrestlers: Dont look like "wrestlers"; arent tough guys anymore.

[UseYourBrain]

I usually don't reply because most threads on WZ are formulaic and moronic. This one, however, struck a chord with me.

I stopped watching wrestling when HBK retired at Mania. He was the last of the old guard to me, with the exception of Taker and sorta HHH and Jericho. The guys today just aren't that fun to watch unless you're a kid or a hardcore wrestling fan. My kid wanted to watch wrestling so I turned it on Monday for the first time in God-knows-how-long and it was Cena and Orton standing in the ring babbling about the belt, the stipulations for the next paperview, etc. Cena in particular is so incredibly flat and insulting in his persona and delivery that I can't bare it. He's TOO serious. He acts like every night is the "fight of his life". It's childish and insulting and listening to these two boring guys drone on and on without charisma made me long for the days when The Rock, Austin, and Hogan had people screaming so loud they could barely talk. They were that charismatic. I'm oldschool. When I watch my entertainment, I like to see people doing things that I can't do. Musicians, movie peeps, and even wrestlers. On the mic, I don't see that anymore in WWE.

BUT that's not the only thing. Sorry to power rant but to get back on topic, there was one other HUGE thing I noticed. Almost every single wrestler looks the same. They don't look like people who'd walk through an airport only to have people go "Who in the world is THAT?!" They look like a bunch of babyfaced buddies with the same expressions, same ring attire, and same half-baked personalities. Visually and aesthetically, you take one look at today's roster and you can tell these guys are all buddies. They all go clubbing and act like DB's after the show. They don't look like men. They look like a Frat House. These aren't men who were hardened by territories. Who paid dues in Japan, Mexico, and the indies before finding a gimmick that got them noticed and learning to be larger than life. These are the sons, grand sons, daughters, and FANS of the real wrestlers. I lasted about five minutes before turning it off and telling Nathan that if he wanted to watch wrestling, he could pop in an HBK or Flair dvd.

 

[Chadmw]

I love how some people in this thread are now complaining that wrestlers are too small when all I read for years on the Internet is that people were getting angry at Vince and the WWE because all they did was push big guys with no talent (Snitzki, Mark Henry, Khali.) and then all of a sudden it seemed like they started listening to the fans and pushing some of the smaller superstars (Jericho, Benoit, Mysterio, the Miz...). And now all you read (and this is not the first thread I have noticed this) is that so and so is not believable to be a champ he is too small.


You guys wonder why it seems at time that Vince and the WWE don't take the IWC seriously or don't seem to listen to it. It's because of reasons like this, the IWC is to wishy washy

 

[returnofplex]

Uh well. They arent allowed to take steroids anymore, hello. Of course the guys who were on fucking gorilla hormones(I shit you not) back in the day were bigger.

They have also figured out its not a bad idea to tap into the female demographic, hence all the pretty boys with their pretty hair. They all most certainley have a look, "the look" is just different in the modern era.

Aren't allowed to take steroids anymore? Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha! Are you freakin' kidding me? Maybe someone like Bryan Danielson isn't on them and it definitely shows, but I'd say 90% of the roster is still some form of "steroids".

Another poster mentioned that WWE wants the female demographic. Yeah, I'd tend to agree with that. Society has been brainwashed to think that you have to look like an emaciated emo-vampire to be "attractive". Or that a "6-pack" is a bare minimum requirement. The reality is that a guy the size of say "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan, could quite literally kill another human being with a short series of punches.

 

[closet_fan]

Now that steroids has been outlawed, of course they are going to look smaller. If Batista didn't take steroids, he would be half his size. And you could tell he was on them. His body was starting to take the "Scott Steiner" appearance. Muscular, but saggy at the same time, if that makes sense.

Don't be surprised to see HHH end up looking like this. Oh wait, he doesn't use steroids (eye roll).

 

[Ferbian]

There's one specific thing that you definitely have gotten wrong - An unique look. Back in the days you wouldn't have near as many big build superstars as you have today, or some with a special look. You would have a rare well-build guy and a lot of medium build guys. Now we got a large array of muscular guys in different sizes and builds. John Morrison for example has quite an unique look. Sheamus has an unique look. Triple H as well.

And besides does it truly matter about the looks for them to seem tough? You don't need to look like a legit tough guy to be able to kick some legit ass. A guy like Chris Benoit didn't seem of the biggest of challenges - Sure he was build very well, but his in-ring style was much tougher than his looks allowed him to appear like. And the same could be said about many other wrestlers.

So really, who gives a damn if they're hardly, or incredibly build? Because in the end it's all about how they perform in the ring.

 

[FreezeIzGAWD]

SORRY I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH MOST GUYS ON HERE!!! The one thing I use to love about wrestling was the element that guys were "TOUGH" and had the pedigree to back it up. It wasn't necessarily the size... It was the aura! Ricky Steamboat was not a ROID MONSTER but U believed he could really whoop a guys azz... Bret Hart, Stan Hansen, William Regal, Finley, Arn Anderson, Big Bossman, The One Man Gang, Haku... These were guys U knew U just did NOT want to REALLY FIGHT!! Whether U felt wrestling was REAL or Not... I CAN HONESTLY SAY I WOULD FIGHT MOST OF THE GUYS ON THE LIST PERSONALLY AND I BELIEVE I WOULD WIN!!! SERIOUSLY!

Miz, Alex Riley, Heath Slater, Justin Gabriel, Evan Bourn, Zack Ryder, Cody Rhodes

I would fight Daniel Bryan of course but he would beat the hell out of me. LMAO!! That is why I hate the WWE right now... There is NOT A LEGIT BAD AZZ FEEL ANYMORE & THAT SUCKS!!!

 

[gh88us]

I come from the OLD days of pro wrestling. IMO the WWE needs legitimate monsters, like big john stud, ken patera, king kong bundy, kamala, bruiser brody, don muracho, etc. Someone who just runs amuck among the normal sized wrestlers, and gives the title holder a legitimate scare for the title. I as a kid was scared crapless when i saw kamala in the parking lot walking to the arena. The Undertaker early on in his career was a frightfull creature.
Also, i feel the WWE needs managers back in the scene. For the wrestlers who don't have mic skills, a good manager can make the world of differance, get crowd reaction and sometimes carry a match with their conduct.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

There are plenty of wrestlers that have "The Look", they just don't look like they just stepped off the cover of a comic book.

If you look back all through wrestling history, hell even just the past 30 years, most guys that were out there didn't look like some mini version of The Incredible Hulk and were still great wrestlers: Macho Man Randy Savage, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Ric Flair, Barry Windham, Curt Hennig, Rick Martel, Stan Hansen, Bruiser Brody, Chris Jericho, AJ Styles, The Miz, Daniel Bryan, Owen Hart, and the list goes on and on and on. Even though some of these wrestlers named have taken steroids at some points in their career, they don't have the stereotypical look associated with steroid use.

Even guys like John Cena and Sheamus are really well built, but they don't look outrageously proportioned. Having a good build can mean a lot for a wrestler, but it's not the end all and be all by any means.

Besides, just being big and muscular doesn't guarantee anything. Look at Ezekiel Jackson for instance. The guy's a friggin' ox but it's going to take a lot more to get over these days than just posing and having big muscles. Zeke Jackson would've been a megastar just by his build alone 25 or 30 years ago, but that doesn't get it done now. A lot of the best young talent coming into wrestling, and that have been coming into wrestling much of this decade, are somewhat on the smaller side. The vast majority are in good physical shape, they simply don't look like juicers and I've got no problem with that at all.

As far as Batista goes, I think that the guy's full of shit quite frankly. He didn't mind the direction the WWE was going in as long as he was main eventing and winning World Championships. His problem ultimately was that the WWE was going to build and push younger stars, which means he wasn't necessarily going to be in the spotlight nearly as frequent or as often as he wanted to. If Batista is really the badass he seems to think he is, I wish he'd stop dragging his feet with all this MMA business, climb into the ring and show what he's made of.

 

[HBKevin]

I don't think there are as many guys these days who have legit fighting skills or experience, like Harley Race. There was a moderately fat, big guy who was just tough, didn't look like a roid user though.

On the other hand, there are people saying, oh I could beat up The Miz, DiBiase, Alex Riley, etc. Well, maybe you could if you have some martial arts training or are just huge, but these guys aren't wimps, no matter their appearance. To take bumps every night and be a pro wrestler is physical, tough work, and people who can't take a lot of pain are weeded out. I'm sure The Miz, or whoever you want to single out, could take down 99% of people on this site, lol.

 

[Mitch Cumstein]

I think a lot of you are misunderstanding what I wrote....

I agree, that now a days its common knowledge that you dont have to look tough to be tough. And the biggest guy is not always the toughest. I agree with that.

However, as that applies to real life and real fighting, it does not apply to theatrical wrestling. Wrestling is an illusion. You have to suspend disbelief in order to disregard the fact that these performers are not actually fighting each other.

There in lies the reason for "looking tough".

I do not want to see a bunch of people that look like 90% of the guys in my gym that work out a lot. I want to see the guy that looks dangerous, crazy, tough, etc.... Whether its your tatts, hair, body, clothes, I dont care. Just dont look like an average Joe who works out.

One poster on here mentioned the whole "walking through the airport" thing. That is a perfect example. How many of these guys would stand out in a crowd? If you werent a wrestling fan, most of these guys would look like every other dude nowadays.

Personally, wrestlers cant look like average guys. They dont have to look like "comic book characters" like some are suggesting. They just have to look more "larger than life" than most people.

Their look is part of the illusion.

 

[Honkey_Kong]

In professional wrestling, the look is more important than actually being tough. Look at Benoit, he was yoked and looked like he was legitly tough enough to rip his opponent's head off.

But look at the Miz. It really doesn't matter if he's tough enough to defeat the entire UFC roster in a real MMA handicap match, on TV he looks like a pussy who if he got in a real fight would get the crap kicked out of him.

Pro-wrestling is a show and illusion. I don't want to see the ordinary in the ring "fighting." I want to see the extraordinary. The question of steroids being good or bad health-wise is beyond the scope of thread, but when the wrestlers were all yoked, I bought in to the illusion of the show a lot more than the current WWE product.

 

[Navi]

SORRY I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH MOST GUYS ON HERE!!! The one thing I use to love about wrestling was the element that guys were "TOUGH" and had the pedigree to back it up. It wasn't necessarily the size... It was the aura! Ricky Steamboat was not a ROID MONSTER but U believed he could really whoop a guys azz... Bret Hart, Stan Hansen, William Regal, Finley, Arn Anderson, Big Bossman, The One Man Gang, Haku... These were guys U knew U just did NOT want to REALLY FIGHT!! Whether U felt wrestling was REAL or Not... I CAN HONESTLY SAY I WOULD FIGHT MOST OF THE GUYS ON THE LIST PERSONALLY AND I BELIEVE I WOULD WIN!!! SERIOUSLY!

Miz, Alex Riley, Heath Slater, Justin Gabriel, Evan Bourn, Zack Ryder, Cody Rhodes

I would fight Daniel Bryan of course but he would beat the hell out of me. LMAO!! That is why I hate the WWE right now... There is NOT A LEGIT BAD AZZ FEEL ANYMORE & THAT SUCKS!!!

I know who you are. You're the guy who wants to beat everyone up on Youtube, right? Jesus.

There's one specific thing that you definitely have gotten wrong - An unique look. Back in the days you wouldn't have near as many big build superstars as you have today, or some with a special look. You would have a rare well-build guy and a lot of medium build guys. Now we got a large array of muscular guys in different sizes and builds. John Morrison for example has quite an unique look. Sheamus has an unique look. Triple H as well.

And besides does it truly matter about the looks for them to seem tough? You don't need to look like a legit tough guy to be able to kick some legit ass. A guy like Chris Benoit didn't seem of the biggest of challenges - Sure he was build very well, but his in-ring style was much tougher than his looks allowed him to appear like. And the same could be said about many other wrestlers.

So really, who gives a damn if they're hardly, or incredibly build? Because in the end it's all about how they perform in the ring.

QFT. In this day and age of the WWE, most of the big names, Cena. Orton, HHH, Batista, Mark Henry etc...etc... look like they're fresh off the assembly line.

I remember the guys that had their own look, Bret Hart, Honky Tonk Man, Ricky Steamboat etc...etc. In the 80's and 90's each superstar had their own gimmick and persona.

The guys who dressed like Orton, were the jobbers. It was kind of like an old Star Trek episode, you know the ones where Engineer #2 beamed down to the planet with Kirk and Spock, you knew he was the one who was going to get killed. That's what these guys looked like, they didn't have a great name, wore black trunks and there was nothing special about them.

Nowadays, most of the gimmicks have been rehashed to death and really no one stands out in the crowd. Yea these guys are still tough but they've been turned into part wrestler/actor/marketing tool and god knows how many other hate they have to wear.

 

[The Wrestler`s Wrestler]

I find it funny that this thread seems to of started from Batista. A man who 4 years ago got his arse handed to him, Quite decisively I might add IE (He didn't even get 1 punch in the rumours have it) by Booker T. A man smaller then he is.

Now don't get me wrong I am not hating on Batista Iv been a fan of his from his move 2 raw, But size has nothing to do with being a tough guy. HELLO J.B.L vs Joey Styles in iraq, Who won that fight??? Chris Jericho vs Goldberg, AGAIN who won that fight??? And thoes fights were 4 REAL!!! People know now that wrestling is a show. Back in the days you had 2 have big jacked up guys in the ring 2 make people watching think "Well that's why he can pick him up over his head, Look how BIG he is!"

But nowadays you don't need jacked up guys in the ring because people know its a show. And as it goes for reality I think alot more kids will see people average size like Miz, Morrison, Del Rio, Cody and the like n think "If he can do it so can I!" Lets be honest how many people do you think watched Hogan, Savage, n Warrior and thought to themselves REALLY "If he can do it I can too!" Size has NOTHING 2 do with being tough. And if you think I am wrong, Then you can take it up with BJ Penn

 

[Undertaker the 5th]

I don't see why they have to look tough. Sometimes those are the most boring and bland wrestlers on TV. Snitsky, Mike Knox, Vlad Kozlov, Mark Henry, The Great Khali, etc. Nobody cares about them because they were boring and couldn't get the crowd to hate or love them. Maybe a little bit, but there is a reason they are all jobbers or are not there anymore. By the way Zeke looks tough, but he just looks more bland than DB.

I don't look for a guy to look tough to like him. I look for one that can entertain me. Either on the mic or on the ring.

 

[Mike D]

Great post, Freeze!!! I agree.


Things have changed so much. My friends dad can't believe that the guys on tv today are pro wrestlers. They look like sales men. What's with the baby oil on all these guys?? and they don't even have great physiques.. guys like ryder, miz, are 210 and morrison, ziggler are a buck 70 soaking wet.. We brought up the steroid test..he said "no excuse" look at NFL ball players. They have similar testing yet are over 300 and line backers and running backs are 225 to 265 hard angry aggression. I must say, he is right. WHAT HAPPEN TO PRO WRESTLERS??? they are like metro sexual guys of the 21st century. To the guy that said eziekial would stand out 25 years ago...LOL.. are you kidding? You had to be able to work then..to move with coordination, to have skills..he has none. and at about 265 (legit pounds) he would be about average size. Guys like Muraco were about 290, sd jones was 275. seriously go back and look at Superstar Billy Grahm 1978 then tell me eziekial would stand out.. You are kidding. here he can look big against a 215 to 220 orton, but not against the greats. Oh should we forget the 320 pound warlord, lol.. Ok time to move on point proven.


EDIT.. to the guy above... Mike Knox should never had been released. That, in itself, shows how incompetant the wwe creative team is. Do you realise that guys can do standing moonsaults...at 285 pounds. He is a very good worker and look believable. But he doesnt look like a 23 year old abercrombie sales boy.

 

[NWannabe]

Times change, yes. But there really is a lack of tough guys on the roster. Off the top of my head, those portrayed as tough guys would be .. Mcintyre, Seamus, Barrett, Reks, Zeke, and to an extent ..Punk. See, I think wwe doesn't know how to portray a guy as badass without being big. Punk tries, but the crowd just doesn't seem to buy it. WWE has gotten too focused on being so well polished that guys that look like they've been through a fight (blemishes and scars on the body) never show up. I mean...look at Seamus. When I watch raw, not a spot or bruise on the guy. You're telling me you are a tough guy who has no scars of battle to recall. This is just an example, but wwe doesn't know how to make guys seem badass without size.

Hopefully DBD loosens enough ligaments and kicks enough chests to help solve that problem.

 

[Mike D]

Speaking of Shemus. have you heard about Yoshi kicking his ass..literally sitting back telling him to beg him to stop..shemus crying like a girl.. Guys a punk/ bully type...couldnt fight outta a paper bag. This is first hand from FCW.

 

[flipmood]

man if dragon went bold with a go-tee like he was in the indies and turned heel he would be mean as hell, plus with his style he would definately be one tough S.O.B

 

[TheMainMan32]

It's not the height, it's the lack of dedication in the gym. Take a guy like The Miz, who is chubby at his best, a fat ass at his worst, and compare him to Dolph Ziggler, who despite his HORRIBLE hair and name, has a fantastic physique. Look at CM Punk. He's just plain out of shape, especially standing across from John Cena. I think that it's actually getting to be a problem. There are more out of shape guys, than in shape guys.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

For every Alex Riley, John Morrison, Miz, and Alberto Del Rio there is a Skip Sheffield, Wade Barrett, Ezekiel Jackson, and Mason Ryan (the guy that attacked Cena on Raw last night). And since when did ALL of the guys on a wrestling promotion have "the look"? Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Shawn Michaels, and Ricky Steamboat are just a few names in the long list of men who have dominated the WWE despite being smaller in build. The WWE has plenty of big men. You have the previously stated Jackson, Barrett, Sheffield, and Ryan. You also have Sheamus, DH Smith, Koslov, Otunga, and the veterans in Kane, Undertaker, Triple H, and John Cena. The middle weights like Edge and Randy Orton are also future Hall of Famers. There has always been a mix of size and speed in professional wrestling. I think it is true that a lot of the up-and-comers look like frat boys. I mean, A-Ry got a DUI and then bragged about it on Raw. Really...? But in the end, whatever works for the WWE to get money is what they'll use.

 

[vermilion]

I usually don't reply because most threads on WZ are formulaic and moronic. This one, however, struck a chord with me.

I stopped watching wrestling when HBK retired at Mania. He was the last of the old guard to me, with the exception of Taker and sorta HHH and Jericho. The guys today just aren't that fun to watch unless you're a kid or a hardcore wrestling fan. My kid wanted to watch wrestling so I turned it on Monday for the first time in God-knows-how-long and it was Cena and Orton standing in the ring babbling about the belt, the stipulations for the next paperview, etc. Cena in particular is so incredibly flat and insulting in his persona and delivery that I can't bare it. He's TOO serious. He acts like every night is the "fight of his life". It's childish and insulting and listening to these two boring guys drone on and on without charisma made me long for the days when The Rock, Austin, and Hogan had people screaming so loud they could barely talk. They were that charismatic. I'm oldschool. When I watch my entertainment, I like to see people doing things that I can't do. Musicians, movie peeps, and even wrestlers. On the mic, I don't see that anymore in WWE.

BUT that's not the only thing. Sorry to power rant but to get back on topic, there was one other HUGE thing I noticed. Almost every single wrestler looks the same. They don't look like people who'd walk through an airport only to have people go "Who in the world is THAT?!" They look like a bunch of babyfaced buddies with the same expressions, same ring attire, and same half-baked personalities. Visually and aesthetically, you take one look at today's roster and you can tell these guys are all buddies. They all go clubbing and act like DB's after the show. They don't look like men. They look like a Frat House. These aren't men who were hardened by territories. Who paid dues in Japan, Mexico, and the indies before finding a gimmick that got them noticed and learning to be larger than life. These are the sons, grand sons, daughters, and FANS of the real wrestlers. I lasted about five minutes before turning it off and telling Nathan that if he wanted to watch wrestling, he could pop in an HBK or Flair dvd.

Yeah, Flair and HBK were definitely really tough looking. I particularly think the mulleted dangly earring HBK was by far the biggest badass I've seen.

It's funny you mention them "going clubbing" and stuff b/c all you ever see from the old guard is complaining that the new guys spend too much time playing video games and staying in their hotel rooms.

Hardened by territories? Like The Rock was? Like Batista was? How about Big Show or Triple H? Daniel Bryan, one of the current "weak" wrestlers, has wrestled all around the world in 60 minute matches, has had his orbital bone smashed in a match and kept wrestling. Alberto Del Rio is FROM Mexico. John Cena, while he's only been in a few companies (UPW, OVW, WWE), has paid his dues.

It seems that many people in this thread are looking at everything through nostalgia-tinted glasses. I've been a fan since I was little (I'm 31). The old WWF wrestlers, while big, were clowns. Hillbilly Jim? Koko B. Ware? Hulk Hogan? Superfly Snuka? Ultimate Warrior? None of those guys looked tough at all. Come on, the smaller guys were the good ones (Hennig, Rude, Savage, Steamboat, Jake the Snake, Bret Hart, basically the IC title scene). I'd much rather see matches with smaller, more athletic types, like John Morrison or the Miz, than hulking slow jokes of wrestlers like Batista or Hogan.

 

[vermilion]

It's not the height, it's the lack of dedication in the gym. Take a guy like The Miz, who is chubby at his best, a fat ass at his worst, and compare him to Dolph Ziggler, who despite his HORRIBLE hair and name, has a fantastic physique. Look at CM Punk. He's just plain out of shape, especially standing across from John Cena. I think that it's actually getting to be a problem. There are more out of shape guys, than in shape guys.

Oh I know, I heard about this guy in the 80s, Ric Flair. I heard he was good but he wasn't muscular so I think he was horrible. Don't even get me started on that horrible Dusty Rhodes. No charisma, no talent, just b/c he was so fat. There was a guy in the late 90s like that named Stone Cold Steve Austin, have you heard of him? Gross, he wasn't even tanned nicely. When I watch my men in underwear fight, they better be aesthetically pleasing or I won't enjoy it fully.

 

[Professor]

I usually don't reply because most threads on WZ are formulaic and moronic. This one, however, struck a chord with me.

I stopped watching wrestling when HBK retired at Mania. He was the last of the old guard to me, with the exception of Taker and sorta HHH and Jericho. The guys today just aren't that fun to watch unless you're a kid or a hardcore wrestling fan. My kid wanted to watch wrestling so I turned it on Monday for the first time in God-knows-how-long and it was Cena and Orton standing in the ring babbling about the belt, the stipulations for the next paperview, etc. Cena in particular is so incredibly flat and insulting in his persona and delivery that I can't bare it. He's TOO serious. He acts like every night is the "fight of his life". It's childish and insulting and listening to these two boring guys drone on and on without charisma made me long for the days when The Rock, Austin, and Hogan had people screaming so loud they could barely talk. They were that charismatic. I'm oldschool. When I watch my entertainment, I like to see people doing things that I can't do. Musicians, movie peeps, and even wrestlers. On the mic, I don't see that anymore in WWE.

BUT that's not the only thing. Sorry to power rant but to get back on topic, there was one other HUGE thing I noticed. Almost every single wrestler looks the same. They don't look like people who'd walk through an airport only to have people go "Who in the world is THAT?!" They look like a bunch of babyfaced buddies with the same expressions, same ring attire, and same half-baked personalities. Visually and aesthetically, you take one look at today's roster and you can tell these guys are all buddies. They all go clubbing and act like DB's after the show. They don't look like men. They look like a Frat House. These aren't men who were hardened by territories. Who paid dues in Japan, Mexico, and the indies before finding a gimmick that got them noticed and learning to be larger than life. These are the sons, grand sons, daughters, and FANS of the real wrestlers. I lasted about five minutes before turning it off and telling Nathan that if he wanted to watch wrestling, he could pop in an HBK or Flair dvd.

You opinion is basically identical to mine. I also havent watched wwe in years but turned on recently to discover to my amazment that they all look the same like a bunch of clones, and they all look like ordinary folks just dressed up. That is not what people want to see, I agree they want to see 'stars' larger than life. How can the wwe not notice that everyone looks the same? All clean cut fray boys, with that try hard semi arrogant act that is boring and generic.

WWE is in a terrible state. The Miz, is a fitting wwe champ in the worst era ever imo.

 

[Professor]

I disagree with this. As with anything, wrestler's looks go with the times. Does anyone want to see the old school long haired wrestler anymore? Hogan, Windham, Dr.Death, P.S.Hayes, etc. Does anyone want to see an out of shaped blob of a man wrestling? Dusty, Adonis, Rose, etc. Does anyone want to see a jacked up steroid freak anymore? Hogan, Warlord, Hercules, etc. Does anyone want to see a guy with a mullet wrestling? MagnumTA, Lugar, Beefcake, Michaels, etc.

The guys today are no tougher than they ever were. There were smaller guys back in the day.. Michaels, Savage, Flair, Hart, Hennig, etc. The difference today is that the smaller guys now actually have a chance to win the championship, whereas back then, they werent given a chance.

Short hair is the look now. Just be glad nobody is sportin the Justin Bieber yet.

Yes I think people do want to see the old school look, what makes you think otherwise? Short hair is the look now? What does social fashion have to do with wrestling? Nothing, well it shouldnt. wrestlers have always looked different and stood out, thats a big part of the appeal of the sport.

Do you really think people want to see a 5'10 clean cut frat boy Miz over a sid justice?

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

Well Taz had this image of a ripper and he wasn't exactly a monster was he?

First of all you will never have the good ole days of when wrestlers would tear up the local bars and gain their reputation as tough men. What we have now is companies who look at their wrestlers to promote their good name, and gain publicity for them, outside the ring through charities, performing for the Troops etc.

To say the era of the Big Man is completely gone is kinda wrong. Because the top face, Cena, has put on a few muscles in the last 2 years to look more credible on TV. Now we have someone like Mason Ryan debuting, as someone who could make an impact and become a top player, and you feel beefed up superstars still have a great career to look forward to. Even if they don't know a 1000 holds.