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TNA is down the Drain.

AussieHobo said:
TNA is full of WWE Rejects.... WWE owns ECW and WCW so you can NOT count any of its superstar who have wrestled in either brands rejects. Christian is a WWE Reject, Jeff Jarret is a WWE Reject, Billy Gunn and Road Dogg are WWE Rejects, the Dudley Boys are WWE Rejects, Ron Killings is a WWE Reject, Christy Hemme is a WWE Reject, Gail Gim is a WWE Reject I can Keep Going If You Want?

Let's not forget WWE Rejects like AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Monty Brown, Samoa Joe, Sonjay Dutt, Austin Aries, Roderick Strong, etc. What's that? They weren't in WWE? That's right. And these wrestlers represent what TNA is really all about. So they have some talent that was established elsewhere, but who doesn't? They're not nearly as bad as, say, WCW was in that department. If you move past the fact that there's people like Steiner, Rhino, 3-D, James Gang, Sting, etc. in the Heavyweight division, you'll see that TNA is the future of wrestling - they put on matches that are far more exciting than any WWE brand on a regular basis, especially that half-baked, half-assed attempt at reviving ECW. You know the old expression "Too many cooks spoil the broth"? As long as McMahon tries to assert his influence on ECW, it will inevitably lose viewers and ultimately meet a quick demise.
 
Soul Crusher said:
Let's not forget WWE Rejects like AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Monty Brown, Samoa Joe, Sonjay Dutt, Austin Aries, Roderick Strong, etc. What's that? They weren't in WWE? That's right. And these wrestlers represent what TNA is really all about. So they have some talent that was established elsewhere, but who doesn't? They're not nearly as bad as, say, WCW was in that department. If you move past the fact that there's people like Steiner, Rhino, 3-D, James Gang, Sting, etc. in the Heavyweight division, you'll see that TNA is the future of wrestling - they put on matches that are far more exciting than any WWE brand on a regular basis, especially that half-baked, half-assed attempt at reviving ECW. You know the old expression "Too many cooks spoil the broth"? As long as McMahon tries to assert his influence on ECW, it will inevitably lose viewers and ultimately meet a quick demise.

Well to be correct AJ Styles was in WWE for a very short time he wrestled on "JAKKED". Chris Daniels also was in WWE and WCW prior to joining TNA. Chris Daniels nor Monty Brown are the future their the present considering their age. Though the other guys may have a bright future i dont see them taking them to the top surpassing WWE. Your alos awfully quick to judge ECW arent you? Yes the first show sucked and Vince had alot to do with it, but that doesnt mean it is going to have a quick demise. Look at the second show it was not the best but it was a hell of a lot better then the first. Give it time it will establish itself better once this WWE vs ECW angle goes away and ECW can setup their own feuds. I'm not here to bash TNA, i'm here to tell you that some of the wrestlers you named werent TNA born and how you judge ECW so poorly.
 
Well as far as ECW goes we are quick to judge thanks to great ECW shows like the first ONS and instead of setting it more like it was in the older days they stuck it with smackdown (does anybody watch smackdown anymore?)where soccer moms bring there ******s so the ECW fans will be quick to judge, I gave week one the benifit of the doubt, and then week two wasnt much better. I am never going to expect to see a 30 min match on any WWE show, i just want to watch wrestlers wrestle {you learn alot by watching your peers}and I want ECW to fly high again but it won't if Vince has his way

Why? this is his way to truly KILL ecw so all its FANS dont scream for another ONS(imo) yes i know vince backed heyman when he ran ECW just do it again vince so you can kill smackdown
( note: i just hate soccer moms ALL kids have teh chance to be great)
 
Kain27 said:
Your alos awfully quick to judge ECW arent you? Yes the first show sucked and Vince had alot to do with it, but that doesnt mean it is going to have a quick demise. Look at the second show it was not the best but it was a hell of a lot better then the first. Give it time it will establish itself better once this WWE vs ECW angle goes away and ECW can setup their own feuds. I'm not here to bash TNA, i'm here to tell you that some of the wrestlers you named werent TNA born and how you judge ECW so poorly.

Maybe I am quick to judge, but look at how different it is from the original ECW. Taping in front of the SmackDown! audience means that it has to be a family-oriented show (i.e. no obscene chants), something the original ECW never was. Justin Roberts announcing instead of Steven DeAngelis. The polished production that makes it look like "WWE Brand # 3" instead of ECW. Very few of the themes from the original ECW (Sabu and Taz, that's it). Mats surrounding the ring. Time wasted on talentless harlots like Kelly. Nothing better for Sandman to do than cane the holy hell out of a "sports entertainer" every week. And worst of all, the matches themselves. Two weeks in, counting the PPVs, wrestlers like Justin Credible, Balls Mahoney and Sabu have all been made to look weak. None of the innovative maneuvers that we remember from ECW - in its place is essentially the WWE Hardcore Division masquerading as ECW. We won't get to even see piledrivers or 450s or Shooting Star Presses, let alone the even more death-defying moves out there. Face it, ECW is a shell of its former self. Unless at least some of the above problems are corrected, the brand is doomed.
 
Soul Crusher said:
Let's not forget WWE Rejects like AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Monty Brown, Samoa Joe, Sonjay Dutt, Austin Aries, Roderick Strong, etc. What's that? They weren't in WWE? That's right. And these wrestlers represent what TNA is really all about. So they have some talent that was established elsewhere, but who doesn't? They're not nearly as bad as, say, WCW was in that department. If you move past the fact that there's people like Steiner, Rhino, 3-D, James Gang, Sting, etc. in the Heavyweight division, you'll see that TNA is the future of wrestling - they put on matches that are far more exciting than any WWE brand on a regular basis, especially that half-baked, half-assed attempt at reviving ECW. You know the old expression "Too many cooks spoil the broth"? As long as McMahon tries to assert his influence on ECW, it will inevitably lose viewers and ultimately meet a quick demise.

You say the future of wrestling is the superstars that wrestle. quite frankly it isn't. Its the gimmicks, the originality, the mike work and storylines that make wrestling today. Wrestling and Stroylines in the WWE make money. Wrestling and Storylines in TNA make no money. As I said I was not having a go at TNA's wrestling ability but the way it presents its Storylines, most of them are rip offs of WWE gimmicks - storylines. The Wrestling isn't the key, its the storylines.
 
I love Impact a lot more than I do WWE.

I am a fan of WWE, but I like TNA better.

They have better talent. Joe is the man and great in the ring and on the mic.

Sting is possibly one of the best ever! Jarrett is good despte what most think of him.

Christian, well he is great in ring and on the mic. Its too bad WWE would rather push the likes of Edge, Kahli, RVD, and so on!
 
Oh i 100% agree that they shouldnt be taping ECW with smackdown that was one of the very first and for most things they need to fix. I'm sure that will be fixed in the future but regardless of taking the bad points of ECW and its crap, take the good points and look for a postive future. If you a true ECW fan you will stick with ECW through the hardtimes and the good times. It takes sacrifice in order to make a Brand good, most things dont start off the best but give ECW time and they will shine, maybe not like the old days but it will still be an entertaining brand.
 
dead_kennedy00 said:
ECW is improving, you "smarks" are way too quick to judge, its the second show for jesus sake... what did you expect, an epic 30 minute RVD v. Jerry Lyn battle? Give me a break

Improving? How in the hell is it improving. The only highlight that is has had in the two weeks is the Sandman coming out and caning a couple of nobodies.

Has far has RVD vs Jerry Lynn,go pitch that idea to some of the hardcore ECW fans and they'll tell you that's exactly what they want!
 
Kain27 said:
Oh i 100% agree that they shouldnt be taping ECW with smackdown that was one of the very first and for most things they need to fix. I'm sure that will be fixed in the future but regardless of taking the bad points of ECW and its crap, take the good points and look for a postive future. If you a true ECW fan you will stick with ECW through the hardtimes and the good times. It takes sacrifice in order to make a Brand good, most things dont start off the best but give ECW time and they will shine, maybe not like the old days but it will still be an entertaining brand.

I wish you guys would stop acting has if the crowd is the reason the ECW shows are stinking.
 
JohnnyRodz said:
I wish you guys would stop acting has if the crowd is the reason the ECW shows are stinking.

LOL like i said in my post that is the first thing they need to fix...Get back into the old ECW arena and that will be a big START to help ECW. There are tons of things to fix like i said. There has been better spots then Sandman Caning people, did you watch the Sabu vs Mamaluke match? that was by far the most entertaining match of the two shows, granted its not saying a whole lot but its far more entertaing then taking the negative of the show like you are doing.
 
ECW should not be hosted at Smackdown Arena and should be taken off the Sc-Fi channel and onto something more suitable for the ECW brand. You guys have no idea how much media changes shows now, look at ECW..... The Zombie? Kelly (Don't get me wrong shes is one hot chix but is that really ECW)

But we weren't not talking about ECW we were only comparing it.
 
You idiot.Impact is great.You know nothing about it.Oh GOD.Huh speaking of GOD WHO PUTS GOD IN A STORY LINE.WHO TALKS SHIT ABOUT GOD.Tna has more wrestling.WWE is all about promos.Without there promos they suck.
 

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