they should change it back to 4 sided ring.

[lapel8533]

^It wasn't meant to refute, but rather ADD. You're statement was only partially encompassing the nature of the beast and was for all intents and purposes, half-assed. And no, not all of the ropes respond the same, so you're wrong on that account. The fabric used in the WWE ropes is an elastic material which has a LOT of give compared to steel cable. What do you think is the more durable ring-rope with less give? Steel elevator cable or dense elastic fabric? WWE work has always been geared around allowing the larger guys to get more rebound for any kind of running spots they might do (hence the extra four feet of space length-wise and width-wise than the WCW ring did). And yes, with the six sides they were able to trim the length of rope given between each turnbuckle, which in turn made less slack and TIGHTER ROPE. It also allowed them to increase the overall space of the actual ring surface to accomodate more wrestlers in it at one time. You find the ring silly, and that's cool. It helps the X-divisioners at what they do by giving them more room to play and a steadier footing for any springboard maneuvers they wish to perform.

The purpose of the existence of the six sided ring in tna is not to provide more rope tension. The purpose of the six sided ring is to be different. If they wanted more rope tension they would have used a different type of rope and just tighten it to accomplish the goal of increased rope tension. My original statement about tna having the six sided ring to be different stands true.

And no, not all of the ropes respond the same, so you're wrong on that account.

I dare you to find where I said all ropes respond the same way, you won't because you can't.

It wasn't meant to refute, but rather ADD.

Add to what? Your argument that the only way to increase rope tension is to make a ring six sides? Because it certainly didn't do that. Nothing you said refuted anything I said and it certainly didn't help your argument.

You're statement was half-assed.

Warning for flaming.

 

[Kasey]

The purpose of the existence of the six sided ring in tna is not to provide more rope tension. The purpose of the six sided ring is to be different. If they wanted more rope tension they would have used a different type of rope and just tighten it to accomplish the goal of increased rope tension. My original statement about tna having the six sided ring to be different stands true. I dare you to find where I said all ropes respond the same way, you won't because you can't. Add to what? Your argument that the only way to increase rope tension is to make a ring six sides? Because it certainly didn't do that. Nothing you said refuted anything I said and it certainly didn't help your argument. Warning for flaming.

It's ONE of the purposes. Obviously being "different" or "innovative" is a matter of perspective. You're not a TNA fan, so I wouldn't expect you to like it anyway and to see it as frivolity, so taste in that department is going to be subjective (just like how numerous people eat up the majority of WWE programming, which to me is complete $hit). Less length in the rope makes for increased tension with less tightening due to leverage changes in the fulcrum. Couple that with the increased running room it gives the athletes in the ring and it's the best of both worlds so to speak. With more turnbuckles and ropes available the offense can have new avenues that a four-sided ring couldn't hope to touch, but since you frequent TNA PPVs I bet, you'd already know that, right? Like I said, it caters to the X-division. You alluded to all ropes being able to have increased tension by tightening alone, which is horse$hit and is a blanket statement. That is where your point needed assistance. Warning for whining. My comment was not a personal attack as I never called you a name. I gave you my opinion on the nature of yours. Don't like it? Tough. The fact is you and numerous other WWE faithful like you look for anything to rag on TNA or ECW for because heaven forbid someone differentiate themselves from a faltering bag of $hit like Titan.

 

[lapel8533]

It's ONE of the purposes.

Naw, it’s the only reason. All the other things that you claim the ring does are just byproducts of the intent to be different. They originally got the ring to be different and any extra trimmings that the ring provides just happen to be there.

Less length in the rope makes for increased tension with less tightening due to leverage changes in the fulcrum

You can actually manually tighten a ring rope to the point of being completely stiff. You don't need six sides to do this. Fact.

You alluded to all ropes being able to have increased tension by tightening alone

Just like I thought. You couldn't find where I said all ropes tighten the same way. You just made this up.

My comment was not a personal attack as I never called you a name. I gave you my opinion on the nature of yours. Don't like it? Tough.

You act like I got my feelings hurt or something. Nah, I gave you a warning for flaming just for the heck of it. However, I will respond to your explanation of your flame simply because I like to argue............It doesn't have be a personal attack to be an attack, not that yours wasn't. You attacked the integrity of my post. Attack.

I guess if the ring is cool with you guys then that's cool. I still have the right to my opinion however. I'm just glad this board isn't like other boards I've been to, you guys are all great. Hey, what can I say, i'm feelling the love tonight.

 

[Kasey]

Naw, it’s the only reason. All the other things that you claim the ring does are just byproducts of the intent to be different. They originally got the ring to be different and any extra trimmings that the ring provides just happen to be there.

So sayeth you because you designed it, right? I'm sure they didn't have the X-divisioners in mind at all when they changed the ring, right? The trimmings are there regardless, so the benefit of the change still stands.

You can actually manually tighten a ring rope to the point of being completely stiff. You don't need six sides to do this. Fact.

No $hit. Hence Foley having his ear ripped up. Less length in each rope makes it easier for a wrestler to springboard off of it because there is not nearly as much play as in the longer ropes. This is even regardless of the difference in tension. This is the same reason that WCW was always a haven for cruiserweight wrestlers. Their rings measured 16' X 16' and used cable for ropes. WWE's was/is fabric stretched over a ring that's 20' X 20'. TNA's newer rings just played off of this knowledge and accomplished two things. First, it expands the area with which the athletes can run, and secondly, it trims the length of rope between each turnbuckle. It results in greater balance due to more stability at the center of the rope.

Nah, I gave you a warning for flaming just for the heck of it. However, I will respond to your explanation of your flame simply because I like to argue............It doesn't have be a personal attack to be an attack, not that yours wasn't. You attacked the integrity of my post. Attack.

Great. Then find some integrity in your root post instead of trashing on something with no real merit other than "I swear whoever came up with the six sided ring was probably high at the time. It's a weak attempt to look different and it just looks stupid." At least when I venture over to the WWE boards and voice my opinion, I at least try to use some logic other than simply saying that I just don't like something. You're more intelligent than that. There is a reason I jump right on shit like this and get straight to arguing.

 

[suspencer187]

all yall is krayzie, tha 6 sided ring is by far tha greatest ring there is.

 

[Shadowmancer]

This is AJ Styles take on the six sided ring and what benefits and drawbacks there are.

You wrestle around the world; I know you went over to Ireland. Some of our contacts over there mention you wrestled with Irish Whip Wrestling against Christopher Daniels. Do you notice any difference going from the six-sided Impact ring to the old squared circle, and which do you prefer now?

You know, it?s not just that I wrestle in "six sides." On the weekends and whatnot I still wrestle the four sides, and it doesn?t bother me. You can?t forget how much you?ve been around the squared circle rather than the hexagon. It?s not that big of a difference, it doesn?t bother me that much. I?ve got to be honest with you though, I love the six-sided ring moreso than the squared ring.



Are the ropes that much tighter when you?re running the ropes? Are there any other differences you find?

Pretty much just the ropes; the turnbuckles are closer together, therefore the ropes are going to be a little bit tighter. You can definitely get lost in the ring. Like if you go to shoot a guy into the turnbuckle, and he?s in the ropes; or you need the ropes and he?s in the turnbuckle. Either way, you?ve got to get used to it and need to know what you?re doing in there. You?ve got to get in the ring and play around a little before you just jump in there and wrestle, because you?ll get lost.

The bold is the interviewer, the rest is AJ Styles
Here is the full Interview.AJ Styles Interview

 

[Kasey]

This is AJ Styles take on the six sided ring and what benefits and drawbacks there are.


The bold is the interviewer, the rest is AJ Styles
Here is the full Interview.AJ Styles Interview

It's funny. I didn't even read this interview and the part that intrigues me involves less distance between the turnbuckles and rope tension. This coming from one of the main guys to use that kind of ring. Instead of debating more and more, I should've just googled this. Man, it hurts being right.

 

[ExtremeRage81]

can we put the subject to rest? The 6 side ring is an innovation and I honestly would take that over the 4 any day. All the four sided ring does lately is get smaller.

 

[Shadowmancer]

NZPWI has a number of good interviews with big stars in promotions in the States. They have ones with most of the Big Names in TNA. They ask every TNA guy they do about the Ring, Petey Williams says something similar to what AJ Styles says.