THERES A RATTLESNAKE IN THAT VIPER SOMEWHERE!

[MoxViolence]

It looks to me like the wwe is somewhat modeling randy ortons new face character after stone cold steve austin. aside from hearing voices and flipping out in the ring, he's starting to remind me of austin. of course there are many differences we can all begin to point out, but im talking about overall. what did austin do when he wrestled...he walked to ring, talked his trash about whoever it was and eventually whupped their ass. while remaining a BAD-ASS. some would argue that cena does just that...or batista used to do just that. but cena and batista aren't BAD-ASS to me. randy orton keeps it short and sweet....he says what he's gonna do and does it. with a look in his eye that screams HEEL but in fact he's a face. He doesnt play look to the crowd for confidence....like cena does. he rarely addresses the crowd actually. He just whups ass. Period. he's fueded with the mcmahons which was arguably one of austins main fueds. just sayin...

Dont get me wrong, no one can EVER fill austins shoes, and i didnt make this thread to suggest randy orton will be the new stone cold. But I do think orton can become that tweener we all love to watch kick ass and talk trash.

Thoughts?

 

[manstis1804]

Only problem is, if Orton worked as hard as Stone Cold did in the ring, even after his neck injury, he would break every bone in his body within a couple of months. Orton's got it all except the in-ring work ethic. He wrestles like he's trying not to get injured.

 

[Maikeru_1979]

Yeah i think they are modeling some of Randy's persona afterAustin. i don't think that Randy wrestles like he's not trying to get injured. more along the lines of slow and methoical, cold and calculating, pick you apart piece by piece then finish you. Austin was a straight at you beat the hell outta ya, drink some beer.

 

[Sora/roxas]

Well, we all see the idea WWE has here. They want a new SCSA. They will never have one tho. orton doesnt get it done like SCSA. Orton shouldnt be a face simpe as that.

 

[420killer]

Only problem is, if Orton worked as hard as Stone Cold did in the ring, even after his neck injury, he would break every bone in his body within a couple of months. Orton's got it all except the in-ring work ethic. He wrestles like he's trying not to get injured.

Randy just hurt himself during a match in the last couple months so clearly he dosesn't wrestle like he's trying not to get hurt I personally think Randy puts on great matches. The main diffrence between Orton and Austin is Austin was more physical while orton is more athletic. There caracters are were also a little diffrent Austin was a badass in the sense he did what he wanted when he wanted he was more about sticking it to the man. Ortion is more about do anything to get what he want's he is driven more by self. I agree that they are puting him in that tweener role we all love but I think they are paterning him after another tweener HHH. He is a badass but in a more selfish sense like a HHH where it is all about him and the title and we respect him for being so driven by the gold.

 

[GeneralKarim]

Fail thread really.How many more Randy Orton rulez thread are we gonna have?People who live in the attitude era need to stop jizzing cause Orton has some similarities with SCSA.And heel batista = total badass btw.

 

[TheLegenD87]

Well, we all see the idea WWE has here. They want a new SCSA. They will never have one tho. orton doesnt get it done like SCSA. Orton shouldnt be a face simpe as that.

Orton is not a face, he has cleared that up himself. He is sord of like a tweener. He gets the biggest pops in the wwe right now. But he doesn't even address the crowd like cena does. He doesn't do it for the wwe universe. He just kicks everybodys ass for himself and whoever gets in his way he sees as a prey, just like austin used to do. Ofcourse there will never be another austin, but Orton is the closest to Austin ever since. I do believe wwe is trying to relive the Austin character with orton. If they don't drop the ball like they did with the McMahon feud, then it can work very well.

 

[CJ The Pirate]

Orton is not a face, he has cleared that up himself. He is sord of like a tweener. He gets the biggest pops in the wwe right now. But he doesn't even address the crowd like cena does. He doesn't do it for the wwe universe. He just kicks everybodys ass for himself and whoever gets in his way he sees as a prey, just like austin used to do. Ofcourse there will never be another austin, but Orton is the closest to Austin ever since. I do believe wwe is trying to relive the Austin character with orton. If they don't drop the ball like they did with the McMahon feud, then it can work very well.

He's a face. That's our decision. We cheer for him no matter what. A tweener is the role Edge and Jericho played during the Nexus beatdown. We'll cheer them while they do that but they turned on Cena and suddenly were getting booed again. If Orton turned on Cena that'd be the biggest pop ever.

No matter what Orton says, he can't do anything about it. He's face.

 

[MoxViolence]

Fail thread really.How many more Randy Orton rulez thread are we gonna have?People who live in the attitude era need to stop jizzing cause Orton has some similarities with SCSA.And heel batista = total badass btw.

im not stuck in the attitude era you dumbass. im simply pointing out that it seems wwe is bringing back a bad-ass type of tweener character which resembles austin back in the day. and this isnt a randy orton rulez thread either. im just making an observation. im digging modern day wwe right now anywayz. oh yea and heel batista was such a bad ass that he had the most pussy send off ive seen in a while.

 

[GeneralKarim]

You are clearly have your head way up in the Attitude era's ....u know.Why make a thread about something that is being discussed in other threads?OFc he resembles but thats all that it's ever going to be.Frankly i find it awkward when he says "Im gonna hit you or it with an R K O".I think coming from him it sound really really cheesy and doesnt suit him.Every body's is hot for Orton right now, and they should be, but that doesnt mean that u have to compare him to SCSA every opportunity u get.And the only reason he is like this now is because he was always a bad ass but now he just not acting like a cowardly heel.
And what has batista's sendoff gotta do with him not/being a badass?It was the right way to get him off and it has been discussed already.And dont call people names if u dont know them.

 

[greg_74]

I think this has been pointed out a number of times but I agree that their characters have similiarities but are still different enough that it's not like they are having him be just like Austin. I've been a big Orton fan since his Evolution days but I think a lot of fans are cheering Randy now since he is just a bad ass and only cares about the title. Whereas other guys either play too much to the crowd or draw cheat heel heat. By saying the only reason Orton is so over right now is because people can't let go of the attitude area is not giving Orton and WWE enough credit.

Btw Batista as a heel was not bad ass, he complained all the time and walked out or cheated in matches. Batista was more of a bad ass that would fight anyone as a face.

 

[The Best At What I Do]

Ugh I hate the Randy Orton/Stone Cold comparisons just as much as The Miz/The Rock comparisons and I'm quite the Miz mark. They're completely different people. Can we just let someone be themselves instead of constantly looking for the next [insert wrestler name here]? Cottonwood is not the next Diesel, Morrison is not the next HBK, Sheamus is not the next HHH,and Orton is certainly not the next Stone Cold Steve Austin.

 

[FreezeIzGAWD]

Wow... Some of U guys take the INTERNET waaaaaaayyyyyyy too Seriously. The guy just said U can see similarities btw the 2 and honestly there R. I LOVE ORTON'S character. I like the fact he is always ready to strike. I wish he incorporate some more moves and would use his dropkick more because it is a thing of BEAUTY. I am laughing that U guys R saying that liking Orton is beggin for the ATTITUDE era. I liked Randy Savage but that doesn't mean I miss the DOINK the Clown versus Hacksaw Jim Duggan days. There R always similarities btw past and current wrestlers. Always has been. Hogan admitted he patterned his persona after Billy Graham, Ric Flair was the 2nd NATURE BOY! Why wouldn't ORTON pattern some of his style after one of the most successful persona EVER!!

 

[MoxViolence]

You are clearly have your head way up in the Attitude era's ....u know.Why make a thread about something that is being discussed in other threads?OFc he resembles but thats all that it's ever going to be.Frankly i find it awkward when he says "Im gonna hit you or it with an R K O".I think coming from him it sound really really cheesy and doesnt suit him.Every body's is hot for Orton right now, and they should be, but that doesnt mean that u have to compare him to SCSA every opportunity u get.And the only reason he is like this now is because he was always a bad ass but now he just not acting like a cowardly heel.
And what has batista's sendoff gotta do with him not/being a badass?It was the right way to get him off and it has been discussed already.And dont call people names if u dont know them.

so lemme get this straight....i have my head up the attitude era's ass because i made 1 comparison. and i made it clear at the end of my thread that austin can never be replaced, and that orton is just a bad ass tweener imo and could never fill his shoes. sorry dude but you sound like the asshole of thread who just goes against the topic. its not a band wagon im jumping on. sorry for calling you a dumbass but you gotta call it like it is right?

 

[Auxlz]

No matter what u guys think, he has a point. WWE is trying to make Orton the next SCSA.

Think about it, SCSA was known as The Rattlesnake. Orton is known as The Viper.

SCSA was playing the role of what should be a heel character doing things that should get him boos, but got cheers instead and the crowed loved him. Same thing is happening with Orton.

Also its pretty clear to see the similarities in there finisher moves also. If you take the kick to the gut out of the Stunner, you pretty much have a RKO, just Orton lands different after it. Those two moves are very similar to each other just like the way Ortons character is similar to SCSA.

Im not saying Orton will ever be the same as Austin, or replace him or anything cuz that will not happen. But the characters they are both playing are very similar are written similar.

 

[CJ The Pirate]

No matter what u guys think, he has a point. WWE is trying to make Orton the next SCSA.

Think about it, SCSA was known as The Rattlesnake. Orton is known as The Viper.

Think about it, they're both venomous snakes. They make very good nicknames for a dangerous fighter but short of that there really is no link that connects Stone Cold to Randy Orton. Based on this logic, WWF was trying to make Steve Austin into the next Jake 'The Snake' Roberts. Quite obviously this is nonsense.

SCSA was playing the role of what should be a heel character doing things that should get him boos, but got cheers instead and the crowed loved him. Same thing is happening with Orton.

WWE Creative or Management didn't make this happen with either man. The crowd made it happen by cheering for them whilst heel. WWE just ran with what we offered them. Most of the time, we're the best tool creative have. They should listen to us more. Short of that Austin was exceptional on the mic, intimidating and also very funny. He was a relateable character who beat up on the boss when he disagreed with him. I don't think any of us can identify with Randy Orton in the same way.

Also its pretty clear to see the similarities in there finisher moves also. If you take the kick to the gut out of the Stunner, you pretty much have a RKO, just Orton lands different after it. Those two moves are very similar to each other just like the way Ortons character is similar to SCSA.

Randy Orton began using the RKO whilst he was in Evolution, many years before he was ever named the Viper and many years before anyone really saw anything truly great in him. The RKO is a also a cutter, whilst the Stunner was a chinbreaker. The cutter has been used a number of times, most notably by Diamond Dallas Page who called it the Diamond Cutter. Bubba Ray Dudley also used it both as part of the 3D and solo known as the Bubba Cutta. The Hardy's Twist of Fate is also a cutter.

Im not saying Orton will ever be the same as Austin, or replace him or anything cuz that will not happen. But the characters they are both playing are very similar are written similar.

He's a tough son of a bitch and that's the be all and end all of it. Stone Cold doesn't have rights on that character. It's only adding extra pressure onto Randy Orton to make this comparison. He doesn't need to try to out do Steve Austin because guys like me won't accept it. There is only one Steve Austin and in 10 years time I want to be able to say to people that there is only one Randy Orton.

 

[A**hole]

Some parts of Orton are similar to SCSA but Orton won't ever open a beer on the turnbuckle after the match, "WHAT!"
Hell Yeah you know I'm right
Orton is more cerebral assassin than rattlesnake in his out of ring work.
Tough luck he had Legacy to work with because they were no DX.
I only hope they don't try to make him full face, it would kill everything if he tried to play humble or need the crowd to get him up.
If they do try to do it to him he will know it's 3rd down and he has to punt

 

[RIPRKO1005]

The biggest similarity i'm seeing right now is that orton is hitting the RKO on everybody the same way SCSA hit anybody who looked at him funny with the stonecold stunner.

 

[The Other Hardy Brother]

I see the similarities but at the same time I don't know why were always looking for the next __________ insert legend name here. Why can't guys like Orton and Miz build their own legacies without the added pressure of having to follow in the shoes of a Rock or Stonecold Steve Austin. All four are great superstars but people spend too much time looking for the next coming of a former champion then looking at the redeeming qualities of what makes todays superstars so great. People need to stop living in the past, live in the present and look to the future.

 

[Dave]

We all know the similarities between Austin and Randy Orton but in my opinion, they have never been as noticeable. The only problem with us all calling Randy Orton the next Stone Cold Steve Austin, is the fact that Orton is actually restrained by the new rules and regulations that the WWE are currently imposing on their superstars. Now, I am not saying that this necessarily a bad thing because I love modern-day WWE. I feel as though they need to be more inventive with their angles because they don’t have the violence and sex angles to fall back on, like they did in the Attitude Era.

However, the point still stands. Stone Cold was absolutely enthralling as a character because you literally had o idea what he was going to do next and I feel as though Randy Orton has the same sort of qualities about his persona. With that being said, he has not been allowed the same opportunities as Stone Cold Steve Austin was. He has not driven over a brand new car in a monster truck and he has not driven a beer truck into the arena to drench the top guys in the WWE.

Randy Orton does have the capability to be something very special indeed. He has got the look and the following that a face does. Coupled with the edgy nature that a heel does and that is why he is successful. I would say to some extent that he is the next Stone Cold Steve Austin because some of the similarities are striking. If it wasn’t for the removal of the Attitude Era, I might not have any reservations at all.

 

[I_got_bant_for_idiocy]

i think randy is the pg verson of stonecold

rko is very similar to the stunner
the viper, the rattlesnake
both are bald
both wear black tights n black boots
both had a major feud with vince
both have beat up steph, randy gave her a ddt, stone cold gave her a stunner
steph has slapped both of them in the face
both attack random ppl for the hell of it
fans turned them both face when they were heels
Both give that cold hard-eyed stare to their opponents
both are badasss

 

[XXJJ]

I dont think they are very similar. Their characters are different. Austin was a beer drinking redneck that had a lot of catch phrases. Orton viper character is nothing like that.

The only similarity between them is that they are both not the typical good guy. And the fans go crazy for the rko like they did the stunner.