The Rock ruined Wrestlemania 27

[SteveNJ]

Let me begin by saying I know who The Rock is and what he has done in the WWE.

With him coming back. Its great for young fans, existing fans, and hype for wrestling in all. I will always like the Rock. BUT I wont be one of those fans who make him out to be untouchable. The guy refuses to give anything back to the show or the wrestlers. You had Cena and Miz both put over (story line of course..rock obviously needs none of that) how much he influenced them. And then just to have the Rock basically turn like "shut up you guys suck I'm The Rock, vagina reference; talk real fast; show energy; POP. The HHH/Taker match went over well (again IMO) because they talked trash and also respected each other. The Rock EASILY could have given Cena props on being one of the biggest faces of all time. Also, Miz, being a up and coming main event talent. NO! The Rock will not put anyone over.

Which brings me to last night..

Came out for whatever reason for 20 minutes to talk how HE will make this the best ever, how HE will lay the smackdown. NOT putting over any of the matches on the card. NOT talking about the two Major Titles being defended. Just about how he is going to electrify Mania.

...he was gone for 7 years for a reason. He was done with wrestling..it was beneath him.

And as a die hard fan for over 20 years I really have a hard time believing he just came back for the hell of it. He had to have had some say and put his stamp on the writing/outcome.

...and to further state...I had no problem with Cena losing. If it made the angle work and keep the story line going then of course.

 

[darbare]

ur joking right? sure I would have loved to see Sheamus and Daniel Bryan but it honestly seemed like a filler with no depth....they have no history besides Sheamus beating him for the title....this isnt SummerSlam where you book last minute matches just because they may look good on paper, this is Mania....Rock tried his hardest, but even he couldnt improve or recover that awful main event last night....nor The Rock, and not even JR/King's chemistry could save it because for some reason Cena was not all there....botching shoulder blocks and awkward moves all over the place....yea he had an interesting entrance but why did he have to come out after THE FREAKING CHAMP!! looking at The Miz' credibility, I dunno what more he can do....he is a good champ in my eyes....fuck the Real World and the days where he was SD host, he has arrived....he wasnt to blame for that awful match because he impressed me last night....the WWE has backed themselves in a corner because God forbid NO ONE can beat Cena cleanly....if Cena wouldve won it wouldve been the same damn Mania all over again....Cena and Miz have chemistry on the mic, but clearly not in the ring and that my friend is not The Rocks fault...and lets be honest, the build up since The Rock has been, the only feud he has been involved in is Cena/Miz...what sense would it make for him to talk about Cody vs Rey or Snooki.....thats just dumb.....the smart fans know why the Rock was there, he was there to increase buyrates and lay the Smackdown on Cenas candy ass....this "host" title was obviously a coverup....you must be like 12 or something to not realize that

 

[latinoheat8979]

I agree with you. I remember times when he would try and separate himself from the industry during Hollywood interviews. Not only that they buried 2 young talents that love them or hate them bust theirass for us every week not via satalite.Also don't expect him on Raw tonite but via satalite again. He tells the fans what they want to hear yet he's a phony.

 

[xcoN]

I agree as well, the Rock kinda/sorta killed W.M. I say so because of how his feud with Cena was BIGGER than the actual main event feud of the night Miz/Cena. I also feel that he didn't help the main event all together. Its more towards WWE's fault though since they booked it. Match ends in a double count out, and gets re-started for 2 minutes just so the Rock can make Miz look even less credible than he already was. Wrestlemania wasn't looking good at all even before the Rock came into the picture so I don't give total blame to him but he definitely didn't help, or to us wrestling fans it didn't. Entertainment wise he did what he was suppose to do. Then again if we're wrestling fans we probably shouldn't think so much into WWE and TNA since its wrestling entertainment. I'll go elsewhere to get good matches and wrestling. The last thing i'll say is that i'm not a Rock hater but I feel like his return is gonna put us to sleep. He should NOT wrestle again :/

 

[a0161613]

So one of the biggest stars of all time ruins the biggest show of the year. While you claim you show respect, the simple notion of this is absolutely ridiculous. Im guessing that you are butthurt that one of your favourite wrestlers had their match cut or didnt appear at all?

Tell any fan who was there last night that he ruined the show and they will laugh at you. He had them in the palm of his hand and they loved him for it. He rocked the arena and he is the reason why this PPV will end up doing massive numbers.

Rock will be on Raw tonight live and he will continue what he started last night, by putting over and giving a rub to Cena and Miz.

The show didnt suck last night but if it was not as good as you expected then it's because the booking didnt quite click where it needed to with Cole vs Lawler and Edge/Del Rio.

But the Rock didnt kill Mania, he made it worth watching.

 

[SteveNJ]

The Miz hasn't won clean except for beating Morrison on RAW. So whats your point dar? I said nothing about the Miz not being a good champion. There was botches on both sides. The irish whip he sent Cena he tripped in him up, Cena has misses, etc and so on.

My point is The Rock seemingly REFUSED to give back. Check any interview or anything. I was holding off on making a thread till Mania was over. Maybe he would hype up, put over, whatever you want to call it to WRESTLEMANIA 27. Not ROCKMANIA.

As I said...Cena getting screwed, run in, whatever you wanna call it.. WAS FINE. As a fan I thought it would make the story line grow. But to come out, 100 miles an hour on the mic, restart. Then basically just Rock Bottom and pin. Just wow.

Riley could have done that and I wouldn't be insulted as a fan.

Butt hurt? Look child either come with substance or not at all.

No match should be shelved for a Gimmick Host. Its disrespect to the wrestlers and the fans of those guys.

 

[The Mighty Tiger]

The guy refuses to give anything back to the show or the wrestlers.

The story isn't over w/him & Cena so it's kinda to early to say that he doesn't give anything back to the wrestlers & the whole point of him being back is him giving back to the show or company how ever you want to put it.

You had Cena and Miz both put over (story line of course..rock obviously needs none of that) how much he influenced them.

I don't ever remember any of them saying anything like that in there promos leading into Mania. Cena started this whole thing by talking about Rock in real life & The Miz talked bad about him & his family (keybabe that is)

The Rock EASILY could have given Cena props on being one of the biggest faces of all time. Also, Miz, being a up and coming main event talent. NO! The Rock will not put anyone over.

Now why would he put them over & say nice things about them when they didn't say nice things about him? Your not really making sense.

Which brings me to last night..

Came out for whatever reason for 20 minutes to talk how HE will make this the best ever, how HE will lay the smackdown. NOT putting over any of the matches on the card. NOT talking about the two Major Titles being defended. Just about how he is going to electrify Mania.

Doesn't every WWE Host come out & say how they gon make the show great never ever saying anything about the matches on the card? Besides for talking longer then the other host he pretty much did the samething all the other host did. This was just a publicity stunt by the WWE to get the old viewers to buy Mania. IDK why everyone thought The Rock was really gonna do more then any other host, the whole have a host on the show idea has always been dumb & never had any real purpose but to draw viewers.

...he was gone for 7 years for a reason. He was done with wrestling..it was beneath him.

I wouldn't say all that but that's your opinion.

And as a die hard fan for over 20 years I really have a hard time believing he just came back for the hell of it.

Seems like to me the only reason he has came back is to do this match w/Cena which he is more than likely gonna lose which in fact means he is putting John over when all this is said & done. We all know he has movies coming out soon but we knew that anyways so I find it hard to believe that he came back for anything else but to give the fans a match that they been wanting to see.

He had to have had some say and put his stamp on the writing/outcome.

I don't really think he had anything to do w/how the match last night played out. If you watched the whole view it was bad booking from the beginning so I wouldn't put that on The Rock.

 

[SteveNJ]

The Rock EASILY could have given Cena props on being one of the biggest faces of all time. Also, Miz, being a up and coming main event talent. NO! The Rock will not put anyone over.

"Now why would he put them over & say nice things about them when they didn't say nice things about him? Your not really making sense."

There were several time Miz and Cena both talked of the influence on them and where they are today. Rock EASILY could have puffed them to give credibility to Miz and Cena. Any smart fan I think would appreciate that. Instead of "I'm the Rock and everyone else sucks". Stunt or not, Rock gave NOTHING back to fuel the story line.

 

[iwinulose]

the rock made WM 27 more exciting, he didnt ruin it at all. given, i to was mad that cena lost, cause im sick of the awful one, the miz being champ, and i dont just meen that his character is awful, his inring ability is awful to. on the other hand, im glad that the miz got beat down and that cena got a rock bottom.
as for the rock being gone for 7 years, he wanted to make movies not wrestle, a choice that no one cared for.

 

[The Mighty Tiger]

The Rock EASILY could have given Cena props on being one of the biggest faces of all time. Also, Miz, being a up and coming main event talent. NO! The Rock will not put anyone over.

"Now why would he put them over & say nice things about them when they didn't say nice things about him? Your not really making sense."

There were several time Miz and Cena both talked of the influence on them and where they are today. Rock EASILY could have puffed them to give credibility to Miz and Cena. Any smart fan I think would appreciate that. Instead of "I'm the Rock and everyone else sucks". Stunt or not, Rock gave NOTHING back to fuel the story line.[/QUOTE]

Dude what the hell are you talking about The Miz & Cena never showed Rock respect in non of there promos leading up to Mania so once again why would The Rock cut a promo giving them respect. How the hell can you say The Rock didn't give nothing to the feud when noone cared about the feud intil Rock joined in it. Now if your talking about outside the ring in real life then The Rock has already given his props to Cena & you know what the Rock got for showing love to Cena? He got Cena talking bad about him an a interview, which is what this whole storyline is based off of. The Miz is just an innocent bystander in this whole Rock/Cena feud everyone knew this from the get go.

 

[JGlass]

To say he ruined the show is strong, but he certainly didn't make it any better as some people are claiming. His opening was pretty good at best. It was the same old shit though, and there was little to no point in him starting the show by dissing Cena.

All his backstage segments were awful. The Mae Young thing has been done to death, and his segment with Pee Wee had one good thing about it, and that was Mean Gene. His staredown with Stone Cold was cool, but short-lived and nothing came of it.

And then finally, the most important moment of the night came when he screwed Cena. I was totally expecting it, almost hoping for it, but when it finally happened it left me puzzled. Where is Cena going to go from here, and how is he going to recover from AAing The Rock and then getting Rock Bottomed by him? And what's worse, after Miz wins, he gets laid out by Rock too! So a guy who hasn't been here for 7 years and is leaving again after tonight looks like the champ while the real champ and the would-be champ are left laying lifelessly in the ring? Horrible... HORRIBLE idea by the WWE.

Rock didn't ruin Wrestlemania by any means, anything bad about Wrestlemania falls entirely on the bookers and the people who are supposed to pace Wrestlemania. Still, he didn't help Wrestlemania either like some people claim.

 

[SteveNJ]

the rock made WM 27 more exciting, he didnt ruin it at all. given, i to was mad that cena lost, cause im sick of the awful one, the miz being champ, and i dont just meen that his character is awful, his inring ability is awful to. on the other hand, im glad that the miz got beat down and that cena got a rock bottom.
as for the rock being gone for 7 years, he wanted to make movies not wrestle, a choice that no one cared for.

I'm not trying to changes peoples minds. Just my opinions. I do think it was good for the young fans to see The Rock, though.

The Miz and Cena both said the Rock was one of the best ever, most entertaining, etc.

Cena said it on the last RAW he is a huge fan. The Rock easily could have filtered things there way. It was basically "You suck, you suck, IF YA SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKIN"

 

[The Mighty Tiger]

To say he ruined the show is strong, but he certainly didn't make it any better as some people are claiming. His opening was pretty good at best. It was the same old shit though, and there was little to no point in him starting the show by dissing Cena.

All his backstage segments were awful. The Mae Young thing has been done to death, and his segment with Pee Wee had one good thing about it, and that was Mean Gene. His staredown with Stone Cold was cool, but short-lived and nothing came of it.

And then finally, the most important moment of the night came when he screwed Cena. I was totally expecting it, almost hoping for it, but when it finally happened it left me puzzled. Where is Cena going to go from here, and how is he going to recover from AAing The Rock and then getting Rock Bottomed by him? And what's worse, after Miz wins, he gets laid out by Rock too! So a guy who hasn't been here for 7 years and is leaving again after tonight looks like the champ while the real champ and the would-be champ are left laying lifelessly in the ring? Horrible... HORRIBLE idea by the WWE.

Rock didn't ruin Wrestlemania by any means, anything bad about Wrestlemania falls entirely on the bookers and the people who are supposed to pace Wrestlemania. Still, he didn't help Wrestlemania either like some people claim.

Now I pretty much agree w/this post....

His opening promo was classic Rock & it was good just for nostalgia reasons I think The insults on Cena was fine didn't really make me no different foreal.

The Mae Young jokes was funny to me but the best part was the stare down w/Austin. I really thought they was gon do more w/them together booking drop the ball. Which is what they was doing all night. His other segment was stupid I like Pee Wee in & all but this time could have been used for something else. Maybe seeing him mix it up w/some of the newer talent.

Lastly the whole layout of last night's main event was stupid. We all know what was gonna happen but it just seem so lackluster once everything was said & done. All WWE had to do was have Rock make the match no DQ from the get go like they did w/his match w/Austin at Mania 17 then have him do Cena in. Or they could have had Miz beat Cena clean in a 20 to 30 min war then have Rock come down & Rock Bottom/People's Elbow Cena then have Miz get The Rock w/Miz standing tall at the end. That would have been a good moment for Miz.

Overall he did the best job for what was given to him, lets be real WWE for the past few years have been lackluster as a whole so to say Wrestlemania sucking was all Rock's fault is bananas.

 

[SteveNJ]

Look, not for nothing..

That 20 minute segment could have been Sheamus vs Bryan. Its my point. If it was Austin hosting, HBK, Hart. I would be saying the same thing. Not just cause Im a Sheamus mark. If it was Aldo Montoya vs Savio Vega...I think, as a fan, that's disrepectful to the wrestlers.

 

[nolimitwordz]

Let me begin by saying I know who The Rock is and what he has done in the WWE.

With him coming back. Its great for young fans, existing fans, and hype for wrestling in all. I will always like the Rock. BUT I wont be one of those fans who make him out to be untouchable. The guy refuses to give anything back to the show or the wrestlers. You had Cena and Miz both put over (story line of course..rock obviously needs none of that) how much he influenced them. And then just to have the Rock basically turn like "shut up you guys suck I'm The Rock, vagina reference; talk real fast; show energy; POP. The HHH/Taker match went over well (again IMO) because they talked trash and also respected each other. The Rock EASILY could have given Cena props on being one of the biggest faces of all time. Also, Miz, being a up and coming main event talent. NO! The Rock will not put anyone over.

Which brings me to last night..

Came out for whatever reason for 20 minutes to talk how HE will make this the best ever, how HE will lay the smackdown. NOT putting over any of the matches on the card. NOT talking about the two Major Titles being defended. Just about how he is going to electrify Mania.

...he was gone for 7 years for a reason. He was done with wrestling..it was beneath him.

And as a die hard fan for over 20 years I really have a hard time believing he just came back for the hell of it. He had to have had some say and put his stamp on the writing/outcome.

...and to further state...I had no problem with Cena losing. If it made the angle work and keep the story line going then of course.

first of all it's not in his character to be nice so it woulda just been stupid for him to do that...not to mention as someone else stated this storyline started because cena talked shit about rock in real life and wwe wanted to exploit it....this fued aint even over....it's just begun so how you can say the rock hasn't put him over when its far from over is beyond me.

 

[LFC till i die]

The Rock certainly didnt make the PPV suffer, in fact he made it more interesting. Rocky's involvement at Wrestlemania made more people take interest in the PPV and if he wasn't involved at mania most people wouldn't have given a shite about the PPV.

 

[The Mighty Tiger]

Look, not for nothing..

That 20 minute segment could have been Sheamus vs Bryan. Its my point. If it was Austin hosting, HBK, Hart. I would be saying the same thing. Not just cause Im a Sheamus mark. If it was Aldo Montoya vs Savio Vega...I think, as a fan, that's disrepectful to the wrestlers.

It wasn't the 1st segment that killed there match it was long but he is the host you expected him to talk only for 3 mins. IMO it was the other segments, all the advertisements & the recap videos from the days before leading up to Mania, the long Match Cole/King had, Long ending to Taker/HHH & last the whole layout of the Main Event took up alot of time. They didn't have to end the match in a draw then play Rock's music & all that junk. That's why they took there match off the card but I understand where you are coming from by saying they could have fit there match but that's not Rock's fault that is the writers & bookers that made the View this way. You think The Rock told the bookers to cut matches so he could talk to the crowd longer?

 

[Game Boy]

The Rock ruined Wreslemania?!? That is a JOKE!

Simply put, if it was NOT for the Rock, the Main Event of Mania could have easily been the WORST in Mania history!

I understand that some people are upset and think that if it wasn't for Rock's opening promo we could have saw the U.S. Title...I may be in the minority here, but I would much rather have saw one of the, if not the, best mic workers of all time cut an awsome promo when it is something that we don't get every week. Sheams and Bryan could happen anytime...but getting to see The Rock doesn't these days.

The bottom line is Rock improved the show and saved the main event.....period.

 

[The Mighty Tiger]

I'm not trying to changes peoples minds. Just my opinions. I do think it was good for the young fans to see The Rock, though.

The Miz and Cena both said the Rock was one of the best ever, most entertaining, etc.

Cena said it on the last RAW he is a huge fan. The Rock easily could have filtered things there way. It was basically "You suck, you suck, IF YA SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKIN"

Dude Cena in that segment on the last Raw sounded like a hypocrite & a ass kisser!!! He starts this feud then comes out & punks out when he is face to face w/The Rock then attacks him from behind but you say Rock should show him some respect SMH! Rock had already stated what his problem w/Cena was & that he was coming to Raw to kick Cena & Miz's ass. What Cena should have said was that The Rock was a liar & a bitch for leaving then they could have got to banging Miz comes out & lays both there asses out. Now that would have been kool but what they did was alright Cena could have came in & said something better IMO.

 

[The Mighty Tiger]

Look, not for nothing..

That 20 minute segment could have been Sheamus vs Bryan. Its my point. If it was Austin hosting, HBK, Hart. I would be saying the same thing. Not just cause Im a Sheamus mark. If it was Aldo Montoya vs Savio Vega...I think, as a fan, that's disrepectful to the wrestlers.

BTW The Rock's segment wasn't 20 mins either. I just rewatched it & time it from the time his music hit to the time they showed him walk back up the ramp he only wasted under 11 mins not 20!!!

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I wouldn't say ruin but he didn't make it more interesting for me. In the first time waster of the night, he spent 15 minutes talking about shit we already know and told us a month ago. We better get a Cena/Rock match out of this as well. I didn't like the way the match ended or how he layed out Miz. Let Team Bring It come tell me why The Great One can do no wrong.

 

[Phoenix]

The Rock EASILY could have given Cena props on being one of the biggest faces of all time. Also, Miz, being a up and coming main event talent. NO! The Rock will not put anyone over.

Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle, Mick Foley, Austin, John Cena, The Hurricane, Jeff Hardy would all disagree. Yes, I said John Cena because he clearly put Cena over on Raw last week to let him speak, normally he would interrupt them and run them down, letting them speak is a mark of respect.

There were several time Miz and Cena both talked of the influence on them and where they are today. Rock EASILY could have puffed them to give credibility to Miz and Cena. Any smart fan I think would appreciate that. Instead of "I'm the Rock and everyone else sucks". Stunt or not, Rock gave NOTHING back to fuel the story line.

Dude, whatever you're smoking, I'd like to have a whiff because it definitely something good. Have you been watching Raw or anything that Cena/Miz/Rock have said? Cena said something years ago, Rock addressed it, Cena responded, Rock retorted, Cena had words, they met in the ring. Yet during this Miz made his point clear, he got involved, insulted The Rock's family, disguised himself as The Rock. The match called for The Rock's attention and he fricking answered that call. Last night was Rock addressing the AA he received from Cena and gave Miz boost points because he allowed Miz to retain the title, screwing Cena out. Now we got the look of Rock vs. Cena actually happening. Rock has no reason to be nice to either of them because they gave him nothing, but he put them over without saying a word.

Rock didn't ruin Wrestlemania, end of.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

Without the Rock being a part of WM 27, I literally would have had no interest at all. He really added to the main event. Cena-Miz was actually a good feud but with The Rock people actually became very interested in it.

The Rock MADE the storyline. Without his involvement, it was just going to be another instance of Cena doing his same old nonsense and winning the belt.

It's not The Rock's fault that 7 years removed from the ring, he is still better than anyone on the roster.

With the Rock involved, you started to wonder how he would affect the outcome and instantly that match become THE main event (over Taker and Triple H).

 

[Jackal960]

Rock was the biggest draw of this years Wrestlemania. Lots of people who bought the tickets, who ordered the PPV did so because of the Rock. For a Wrestlemania, it wasn't the best card you can get, or it wasn't a WM that draw much interest... until the Rock was announced to be the host. So I wouldn't mind him being over than the rest. If this PPV was not a WM, but let's say Night of the Champions without the Rock, it would have one of the lowest buys of the year.

 

[Long Island Iced WXYZ]

Ruined is the wrong word here, but after watching it, it could've been just as good or better without him.

He didn't deliver, at all.