The Rock doesnt care about us any more..

[bigshot316]

I was 1/2 watching Jonathan Ross last night (UK Film critic) and he
was reviewing some new film with the Rock, Stiffler, Sarah Michelle
Gellar and a host of other stars in it, and the overall review said that the film was boring, badly put together, bland and faaaar too long. And to top it all off, nobody knew what the thing was about!
Indeed, when the Rock was asked what the film was actually about he just could not give a straight answer!
So thats ANOTHER rubbish film to add to the collection...
But that doesnt matter to the Rock, he gets his payday whatever.
I get the money and stuff, but Dwayne must have more than enough of that by now, unless he has spent it all on bad tattoos.
What I don't get is this; The Rock clearly used to relish everything
about the wrestling business, especially the cheers and adoration, and
competing in front of thousands of people. So where's the itch gone?
I mean you would think that by now he would be missing all of that and I just
don't understand why he wouldnt take a night out of his schedule to
put in an appearence on next weeks Raw??!

Just one night to thank the fans, the people that put him in the position he is in now

No. He could not give a **** about the business that put him where he
is today, his legacy, his family history or any one of the
'millions..... and millions.'


I hate to say it, the Rock was one of my favourites ever but "DIE ROCKY
DIE"

 

[Father:_Polley]

in my opinion he's been back, he's given the fans their pops and the guy has said he doesnt want to come back. that's y he doesnt have the 'itch', he doesnt want it. let the man make his own decisions.

besides, he more than likely isnt the only guy to turn them down.

 

[MightyFlameboy]

I think he did mentioned sometime back, that he has worked with all the people whom he wished to work with (Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin etc.) and there's nothing new that the WWE can offer him in his career path. And also that wrestling may be his passion, but ultimately he yearns to act in movies, rather than wrestle.

We'd just have to put ourselves in his shoes, rather than blame him for selling out. Yep, as u said, his movies are mostly B-grade crap but he's earning a fat paycheck for work done probably half of what a full-time WWE career on the road would require him to do. It's all about opportunity costs and considering the best interests for his personal life, as well as his family's.

Right now, he gets more public attention, fatter paychecks, less time on the road, more time with his family, who won't be tempted if u were in his shoes? If he stayed in WWE, he'd be feuding with the likes of Orton and Cena, or even Rock vs HHH #101, which is a serious downgrade from his feuds with Steve Austin and Hulk Hogan. All the Attitude Era stars saw this problem and left for their better interests, cept' Vince's dutiful son-in-law HHH and loyal servants a.k.a Undertaker. They knew their time is up and the young up and commers should usher in a new era.

Although I was disappointed that the Rock rejected the invitation to return to RAW for one night, I guess we just have to understand his circumstances and rationale, and move on with our lives to enjoy the show which still brings back nostalgic big stars such as Steve Austin and Hulk Hogan. Dun get too sad, I believe he'll be swayed to make a few more WM appearances in the near future.

 

[orangepee]

what a pep talk... seriously he's a good character on the WWE but i think WWE would be better off without him... sorry all you rock fans but his time in wrestling has passed... he cant make a return and be loved like he once was because he has already dissed everyone that has ever supported him... he's better off making b-rated flims...

 

[ABS]

Since The Rock doesn' give any shit about us any more I dont either. I don't want anythign from just next time , don't coming saying how you love this business and how much you adore it and how when you'r 80 years old you will still come down to the ring and say ''jjjust bring it ''. He cut that promo after Austin walked out. I know he's getting huge Pay-Checks but would it hurt if you just made on single appearence to the fans ? After all he's suppose to be the People's Champ. But naa let's not bash on him he jsut doesn't care bout us. Let's move on.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I don't blame The Rock. Honestly, I don't think he hates the fans but it is perhaps a fair assessment to say he no longer cares about us. We've served our purpose, we've elevated him to Hollywood (just), he doesn't need us any more. That may sound cynical, but I'm not bitter about it at all. Any man with half a brain would have done the same as him. The guy just doesn't need to risk his body or put himself out as much any more, as well as giving a bigger pay check.

And as for him "paying his dues". The Rock is perhaps the third biggest professional wrestler of all time, definitely in the top ten. The amount of great memories he's left us with are priceless, and I really appreciate what he did for the business. The man deserves his rest, his big paycheck (well, that's disputable, but whatever) and if he wants to tell the WWE to go fuck themselves, I don't blame the man.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Dude, y'all sound like the kids who didn't get dates to the prom because all the "nice girls" still went with other guys and now you feel neglected.

The Rock NEVER cared about you. Nor would I.

Of course he was passionate about the business and the people who cheered for him and put money in his pocket, but it is American nature to sell out. Hell, I'd sell out!

The man is married, and he gets offered the chance to take a film career making more money for less days on the road and less time away from his family, PLUS less aches and pains? Shit, where do I sign up?

I love this forum, but if a competitor offered me $200 / week for half the posts I'd be outta here. That's a bad example, since I don't get paid here, but you understand. He BBD'd us. "Bigger, Better Deal."

Maybe he didn't need to be a lifer like Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, and Ric Flair. But maybe that's because he saw their marriage (in Steve and Ric's case several of them) fall apart because of the wrestling business. Chris Jericho walked away for 2 years to do music and spend time with his family - good for him.

Y'all need to get over it.

 

[Father:_Polley]

$43mil by 2006, i'd take it for 'rubbish b-list films'. wouldn't say he'd sold out though. Rock said he wanted to get into movies and he'd done what he wanted. if you were happy, doing what you wanted and able to spend time with family, i dont think there's anyone on here (unless they hate both themselves and their family) would turn it down.

at the end of it all, Rock's not under contract with wwe and is entitled to choose how to respond to their offer.

 

[Skullz Crack'Em]

The Rock or should I say Dwayne Johnson doesn't hate the fans, he disliked being a wrestler, plain and simple. It is a very harsh profession and being a movie star has a lot lighter schedule and more pay, so he was only looking out for himself. Did he let down the fans? Yes, he let all of his fans down for pretty much trying to cut all ties with the WWE, the truth is, he was only in the WWE for six years and when people say he is a bigger star than Shawn Michaels, Taker, or even Triple H, I think that is just wrong. While he is making crappy movies, those guys are still busting their asses for the business that they love, I know that he is one of the most charismatic wrestlers in history, but that's besides the point. He was a name known to all in the wrestling world, he will never be a Robert De Niro or Tom Hanks in the movie world, that right there says he'd rather money over fame IMO.

I don't understand why he would decline an offer to celebrate RAW's 15th anniversary where he will probably be announced as the greatest RAW superstar of all time(either him or Stone Cold). It's not like the WWE is asking him to wrestle again, they just want him to be a part of it, but you never know, he may very well show up and surprise everybody, but I wouldn't count on it. I like The Rock, but I am not a huge fan of him so it is not going to kill me if he shows up or not next Monday night.

 

[ACTAFOOL]

dude no offense but this sounds so gay (no offense to gays either but.. u know what i mean) the guy worked his ass off for years, sure it may not be his biggest passion since he left as soon as he could but he still does love wrestling and gave us some great memories so why keep cryin about him not wanting to come back? he doesnt wanna come back cuz he wants to be taken as a serious actor, and maybe he feels that if he stays in the wrestling image ppl wont take him seriously as an actor, i mean for major films

hes a good actor the problem is he has gotten any decent movies yet to work with

but to be honest i rather keep him in films, i never really liked the rock, i mean sure hes a great wrestler, well in ring hes okay.. hes a very good brawler, but ya his promos/mic skills are amazing and he pissed charisma, he was fun to watch... but his gimmick was so lame.. seriously..

''do u smell what the rock is cookin....''??... its just so damn stupid.. sorry but its true, all his catch frases were lamer than cenas, calling ppl jabronie? layeth the smackdown on ur candy ass? every time he said that crap i just laughed and hoped HHH or austin would come out and kick his ass

im not saying he isnt one of the best to step in the ring, im just saying i never really enjoyed his dumb gimmick, austin or HHH were way cooler back in the day IMHO

 

[noone911]

The Rock doesn't exist to amuse wrestling fans. He doesn't owe anyone anything. He's "performing" in front of many millions of more fans now, gets to do different characters, and makes more money. The people who watch his movies not are probably not going because they want to see "The Rock" they are going to see Dwayne Johnson the actor. Plus we have the poor viewing of wrestling right now with steroids and what not - so it's not worth it to be related. Just because he used to be a wrestler doesn't mean he owes people something. And like someone said above, he'd be in tired and feuds anyway.

Yes it would be nice to see him again, but you can't blame him for anything.

 

[PhenomenalStyles]

What the hell are you guys talking about? Sold out? Doesn't give a shit about you? Oh ok...so moving forward in your career, earning more money, more fame, in a more respectable career path is selling out?

Do you still go back to your high school summer job and thank your old bosses for making you who you are? Give me a break.

The guy went out when he was white hot popular, on top of the game. Look at Hogan who has tried to have a film career while maintaining his firm grasp as the king of wrestling...he's failed miserably.

Get over it seriously, if he stuck around you'd all be complaining about how stale he's gotten and is holding down young guys.

 

[Shocky]

For poops sake, people in here really need to quit the bitching about the Rock.

1. The Rock was a wrestler from 1996 - 2001 full time. That's 5 years. You do realize that it has been 6 years since the Rock has wrestled a full time schedule. Therefore, making him retired longer then he was a wrestler. That means, he's not a wrestler anymore, and wrestling was a minor stint in his life.

2. The Rock is a third Generation wrestler. He has been surrounded and involved with the business his entire life. The Rock never wanted to be a professional wrestler, he wanted to play in the NFL. He didn't have the ability to play in the NFL, but was athletic enough, and the first person to be a third generation star in the WWF. Therefore he was hired by the WWF.

3. The Rock won Seven WWF championships. Seven WWF Championships in 5 years, one of those undisputed. Add on top of that 2 WCW titles, in a little more then 5 years he was a 9 time world champion. Plus IC titles and Tag Team titles. Also, he main evented 3 wrestlemanias, and was involved in perhaps the biggest non Main Event ever with Hulk Hogan.

4. The Rock paid his dues, he faced guys he wanted to face, and moved on. On his way out the door he put over guys like Gregory Helms, Brock Lesnar, Goldberg. The Rock lied on his back and handed the torch to someone else, he has moved on.

5. 5.5 Million, 12.5 Million, 15.5 Million, 4.5 Million, 4.5 Million. What's that, no that's not a combined total of wrestling fans watching The Rock throughout his career, that is the amount of dollars the man makes working a movie. Yup, 15.5 Million to do one movie. As compared to not making 15.5 Million, being on the road 200 plus days a year in a business that is being scrutinized by the media for being to hard on its wrestler. Wrestling and possibly injury himself, being away from his family, all gone now.

People need to wake up. The Rock doesn't need wrestling. He has come back at least a half dozen times in some way shape or form since he retired. How many more times does he need to comeback to satisfy people? People need to realize the Rock isn't a wrestler, he's an entertainer. Whether that's beating up the San Diego St. Aztec Mascot as a Miami Hurricane, or beating up the Hurricane in the Ring, or miraculously stopping Hurricane Katrina in some shitty movie, the Rock is an entertainer period. He has moved on. He was a part of the business for 30 fucking years. Let the man go on and do something that he wants to do and get over it.

The Rock is Hollywood's biggest action star. He is like Arndold Schawrzenneger. He will be remember as an action star, not a wrestler Much Like Arnold is remembered as a an action star and not a body builder. Remember what the Rock did, enjoy the one time a year he does show up, but don't be an asshole and criticize a man for making a clean break away from a business where most of the veterans and retired guys either are to broke to leave or are walking around with a limp, or are already dead.

 

[Bedtime_For_Bonzo]

I'm an anti-Rock guy... He could easily show up and work a match once a month. Is that too much to ask? The Rock took everything that Vince was willing to give him, and then threw him away like a used tampon. The Rock is like a drunken jobless stepfather. Yes, he gave your mother wonderful sex while he was around. But as soon as he saw a window for better opportunities he slapped her on the ass, and moved in with the rich bitch down the street.

I, for one, think it would be stupid for any federation to invest anything in him at this point, because ONE.. It would be only temporary. The Rock would hit the bricks at the mere thought of another movie, and then they'd be left grabbing for a Main Eventer. Yes.. He drew. But not enough to matter that much. TWO... He doesn't draw as much as everyone thinks he does. Look at the numbers. There isn't the much difference in when he's there, and when he's not. THREE... There is nothing else that anyone could care to see him do. He's another talent who's been used to his maximum potential, and somewhere in the world there is another young wrestlers with equal or more charisma waiting for a chance. Use him. Screw the Rock. I wish him best in the movie industry. But I never want to see him wrestle again. He's a waste of a great salary.

 

[PocketJokers]

Why does The Rock need to come back? I don't get why so many people are against The Rock and his choices. The Rock did everything that needed to be done in WWE to be a legend, often times more than once. He helped bring young guys up to the top, such as Helms and propelling his Hurricane character to stardom, so to speak. What more is there for The Rock to do? Win the women's championship?

I read earlier in this thread how WWE put The Rock on the map, as much as that is true, your forgetting one major aspect, The Rock kept WWE on the map by keeping it a float against the rising influence of WCW. He was there during the low ratings, he was there helping WWE stay in business. I'm kinda thinking that The Rock's payed his dues to WWE and should be able to do whatever he pleases in Hollywood. Fans should have the ability to respect his decision. Life in the WWE is seriously rough, and we have some wrestlers here, such as Konnan and Gilbertti who could back this up. So, in his shoes, why would you continue in the WWE, a dangerous job, when you can do what you love and spread that god given charisma to the world, for a good paycheck?

 

[Eternal Dragon]

I'm an anti-Rock guy... He could easily show up and work a match once a month. Is that too much to ask? The Rock took everything that Vince was willing to give him, and then threw him away like a used tampon. The Rock is like a drunken jobless stepfather. Yes, he gave your mother wonderful sex while he was around. But as soon as he saw a window for better opportunities he slapped her on the ass, and moved in with the rich bitch down the street.

I, for one, think it would be stupid for any federation to invest anything in him at this point, because ONE.. It would be only temporary. The Rock would hit the bricks at the mere thought of another movie, and then they'd be left grabbing for a Main Eventer. Yes.. He drew. But not enough to matter that much. TWO... He doesn't draw as much as everyone thinks he does. Look at the numbers. There isn't the much difference in when he's there, and when he's not. THREE... There is nothing else that anyone could care to see him do. He's another talent who's been used to his maximum potential, and somewhere in the world there is another young wrestlers with equal or more charisma waiting for a chance. Use him. Screw the Rock. I wish him best in the movie industry. But I never want to see him wrestle again. He's a waste of a great salary.

Ooooh so bitter!! And you've provided some very strange...analogies.

Do you realize how idiotic it would be to show up and wrestle once a month? You're telling me that The Rock should just appear randomly once a month, wrestle, and then go back to Hollywood? That just doesn't make much sense.

As for your other points, the not "drawing" all that much and what not- I think that's a false claim, especially since he was part of the second Golden Age of wrestling, not to mention was on the highest rated Raw ever. Things like that make an impact that shouldn't be ignored. I say The Rock would be worth every penny if he was willing to wrestle again (which he isn't).

Flames Out
Dragon

 

[Y 2 Jake]

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