The Post Rumble Raw.... What will we learn?

[mattbel123]

They could have been anyone, it was their move, and they could have put hoods or masks on them. Its gotta be the Sheild in story as well as the application....

But, they didn't have hoods up or mask on. You have Michael Cole who was right in front of the incident screaming "that's the Shield, that's the Shield!" You have a photo of Ambrose. I don't think there is anything else to it as to who it was. There's no mystery. I'm sure the Shield isn't going to sit back and not say anything tonight on raw.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

But, they didn't have hoods up or mask on. You have Michael Cole who was right in front of the incident screaming "that's the Shield, that's the Shield!" You have a photo of Ambrose. I don't think there is anything else to it as to who it was. There's no mystery. I'm sure the Shield isn't going to sit back and not say anything tonight on raw.

You're right. The only angle they play out of this is that Vince said that Punk would be stripped of the title if The Shield interfered, he never said the match would be restarted or anything like that. So they could technically say there's no WWE champion and that the champion will be determined in the Elimination Chamber. That would be really lame though, IMO.

 

[tomthebodz]

The Rock will start the night and will cut a generic promo boasting about how he won and so on. Punk will interrupt demanding a re-match. Cena will come out and say he's facing The Rock at Mania, it's all going to be very generic. Punk won't get a re-match as he was essentially given a 2nd chance last night at the Rumble, Vince will say that he could have stripped him of the title and he didn't.

Later in the night Punk will come out and cut a promo saying that his streak has ended so he's going to end another streak at Wrestlemania, The Undertaker, leading to a feud between them.

 

[zwbruno]

It's pretty obvious that The Shield attacked CM Punk, but I think we will learn that CM Punk is 100% not affiliated with him tonight. Up until now, The Shield has not attacked CM Punk but I believe we may see that tonight.

Everyone always talks about the heel turn of John Cena, but is there a better way to do it then having him be behind The Shield? They've never attacked him, and although they "cost" him the WWE Title, they powerbombed Ryback and Punk happened to take advantage. I hope that he is revealed as the mastermind and goes into a triple threat at Mania as a full fledged bad guy, with The Shield in step. Everyone loves the Rock and this would only fuel that. CM Punk would kinda be acquitted of his crimes, although he still acted like a dick so he would be a tweener on the road to redemption.

This scenario leaves the landscape very interesting after Mania, especially if the Rock leaves. If nothing interesting happens then we get a good guy Cena as champ, "hustle, loyalty, respect, boring", and Punk loses to the Undertaker and it isnt even interesting because he doesn't have the title (unless he wins, which is doubtful, come on). If Cena is behind The Shield, then you have either an NWO style faction with the WWE Champion as it's leader or tweener/face champ in CM Punk, which we all know we loved

 

[#tamale]

Everyone always talks about the heel turn of John Cena, but is there a better way to do it then having him be behind The Shield? They've never attacked him, and although they "cost" him the WWE Title, they powerbombed Ryback and Punk happened to take advantage.

Cena was attacked by The Shield a week before the TLC PPV.

I am excited for Raw tonight. Mainly, I want to see how The Shield storyline plays out. I still think that The Shield is great without a leader so I'm kind of hoping Punk is not the leader (or anyone for that matter). I want to see what happens between Vince and Heyman. I want to see what Punk has to say after losing last night and finally seeing, The Rock, on Raw as WWE Champion.

 

[mattbel123]

It's pretty obvious that The Shield attacked CM Punk, but I think we will learn that CM Punk is 100% not affiliated with him tonight. Up until now, The Shield has not attacked CM Punk but I believe we may see that tonight.

Everyone always talks about the heel turn of John Cena, but is there a better way to do it then having him be behind The Shield? They've never attacked him, and although they "cost" him the WWE Title, they powerbombed Ryback and Punk happened to take advantage. I hope that he is revealed as the mastermind and goes into a triple threat at Mania as a full fledged bad guy, with The Shield in step. Everyone loves the Rock and this would only fuel that. CM Punk would kinda be acquitted of his crimes, although he still acted like a dick so he would be a tweener on the road to redemption.

This scenario leaves the landscape very interesting after Mania, especially if the Rock leaves. If nothing interesting happens then we get a good guy Cena as champ, "hustle, loyalty, respect, boring", and Punk loses to the Undertaker and it isnt even interesting because he doesn't have the title (unless he wins, which is doubtful, come on). If Cena is behind The Shield, then you have either an NWO style faction with the WWE Champion as it's leader or tweener/face champ in CM Punk, which we all know we loved

Cena won't be turning heel. It's time to move on from that once again.

 

[Piss Bucket]

Punk won't beat Taker, he doesn't deserve to end THE streak IMO.

 

[miller728]

The Rock will start the night and will cut a generic promo boasting about how he won and so on. Punk will interrupt demanding a re-match. Cena will come out and say he's facing The Rock at Mania, it's all going to be very generic. Punk won't get a re-match as he was essentially given a 2nd chance last night at the Rumble, Vince will say that he could have stripped him of the title and he didn't.

Later in the night Punk will come out and cut a promo saying that his streak has ended so he's going to end another streak at Wrestlemania, The Undertaker, leading to a feud between them.

Honestly I can see Punk and The Rock feuding until at least EC. Then perhaps after EC we will see Punk leaning toward Undertaker and then Cena needs to wait until at least EC

 

[mattbel123]

Punk won't beat Taker, he doesn't deserve to end THE streak IMO.

I'd say that is up to Taker.

I don't think Taker continues after this Wrestlemania. He's a broken down old machine. He's too beat up.

 

[RockNRolla51]

Okay, so I got to thinking of 'Outside The Box' type of ideas, I think just to satisfy my own need to escape from the predictability that is being fed to us....and I've come up with this:

We all know Punk and McMahon will have an exchange of words after last nights debacle, right? Exchange some words, request/impose a rematch, take jabs at each other.... the usual, BUT....

What if it doesn't just die out after that, what if Punk deciedes to launch an Austin-esque attack on McMahon for the next leading weeks... and we get a mini McMahon/Punk feud. Several weeks down the road, when Vince has clearly been backed into a corner.... BOOM, HHH returns to "defend and honor his name, legacy, company"...etc, leading to HHH vs Punk at WM29.

This would be very interesting, it would get HHH his mania spotlight match, without it being predictable, plus wouldn't it be fantastic to sort of relive the Austin/Vince days through Punk? Difference being this time, HHH comes to fight his Father in Law's battle. It has the hero angle, the humor angle, the dramatic angle, the villain angle, the family angle... I think WWE would hit a homerun with the WM build up.

Thoughts?

 

[silrock316]

Eh, I don't think so.

I believe the reports that we're Brock vs Triple H at wrestlemania.

Thats what early reports are, however, if WWE wants to avoid the backlash that will almost definitely come if they decide to have an ALL rematch type of Wrestlemania, they should think about HHH/Punk.

Myself personally? I don't mind the rematches, to me its like the Superbowl between lets say the Steelers and Cowboys? We have seen it a ton but it adds to the legacy.

Honestly Punk vs. Taker to me would be the money match on the card. Punk can flat out get down as a wrestler and for a big old guy, Taker can flat out ball too. So to me that would be the match.

I am not as upset with the WWE's "predictable" ways of late. The ratings have been plummeting and the Rock as champ might draw in older wrestling fans and then they can see some of the newer guys like Ziggler and Punk etc. etc. I am part of the IWC and I just want wrestling to get better and not die.

 

[Moneyinc]

Looking forward to watching Raw for the first time in a good good while. Watched the Rumble last night and CM Punk, Ziggler, Rhodes Scholars, the IC champ definitely have me interested. All these guys remind me of the old days at least a little bit. Y2J as well. Punk is cool as hell I wish I would have been paying attention during his year and a half long title run. Hopefully tonight is a pretty good show. I wish the Rock was as cool as he used to be though. His promo last night before the match was dreadful. The style of delivery was more like a political speech than just the Rock layin the smackdown like he used to.

Kane and Bryan is pretty cringe worthy stuff there I am not too big on Bryan like a lot of others seem to be. Was pretty sloppy/slow in the ring on top of their horrible dialogues.

I am officially on the Ziggler bandwagon though. That dude is as old school as they possibly come. Straight out of the Mr Perfect school of wrestling. Just watch the way he sells punches. Brilliant, brilliant stuff. If he just keeps honing his mic skills we is going to be a monster. Also his jacket last night with the spikes was awesome.

 

[RockNRolla51]

Thats what early reports are, however, if WWE wants to avoid the backlash that will almost definitely come if they decide to have an ALL rematch type of Wrestlemania, they should think about HHH/Punk.

Myself personally? I don't mind the rematches, to me its like the Superbowl between lets say the Steelers and Cowboys? We have seen it a ton but it adds to the legacy.

Honestly Punk vs. Taker to me would be the money match on the card. Punk can flat out get down as a wrestler and for a big old guy, Taker can flat out ball too. So to me that would be the match.

I am not as upset with the WWE's "predictable" ways of late. The ratings have been plummeting and the Rock as champ might draw in older wrestling fans and then they can see some of the newer guys like Ziggler and Punk etc. etc. I am part of the IWC and I just want wrestling to get better and not die.

I agree 100%, good sir. Certainly not hating on them for the rehashing of matches/feuds either, especially since we're all still 90% in the dark on the final WM 29 card.

I thought of Taker vs Punk too, of course... but I just feel like it isn't right for this year. Punk would have nothing to build on other than "Oh, yeah? Well, I HAD a streak too... so, there!" ....

...Of course I'm not 100% serious with that, I know that if thats the direction WWE wants to go, they'll make it creative (enough) to get by and we will all be excited to watch Punk/Taker come WM29, I just feel like it would be better spent saving it, IMO, W/ Punk being the most credible guy to face taker. Let's not have it rushed and thrown together just for the sake of Punk/Taker.

Saving it for when Punk beating Taker is believable. (Which it would have been, had Punk retained last night) Save it for WM30, possibly even with Punk ending the streak. But I think this year, luckily, we have several roads that could lead to Taker, WWE would be better suited following a different one. Possibly Ryback, Sheamus, Brock... Jericho finally? Did he come back "To beat the streak"?

Here's to wishful thinking that we get at least ONE curveball come WM.

 

[scheps24]

that picture above sealed the deal but in all honesty they wouldnt strip Rock of the title anyway. Vince is the Chairman so when he announced that the match was starting over that was final. As much as i wanted some surprises and have Punk win, i would be pissed if they copped out to it tonight and reversed the decision..

 

[smark61184]

Seems like it's a pretty agreeable conclusion that last night was predictable. Tonight is Raw Roulette which is a gimmick Raw, I firmly believe put in place to try and detract from the predictable outcome that was showcased last night. I commented on an article on this site saying they left only one creative avenue open last night and that's with the shield.
Now for all of us who watched the Rumble, Cole was losing his mind saying the Shield attacked the Rock...but did they? Lights were off, one could argue perhaps it wasn't The Shield at all. Maybe this sets up Lesnar vs Punk? There is that one stone left unturned. It could be predictable if the writing team is lazy, it could lead to something interesting. That's what I'm looking forward to tonight on Raw. Oh and Rhodes Scholars takes the Tag Belts tonight.

 

[VinnieSunshine]

Whatever. Logic is irrelivant here apparently. Just because someone snapped a picture of The Shield doesn't mean it WAS them.

My point was...WWE could've thrown 3MB out there. If someone got a picture of THEM you all would believe that it was 3MB that attacked Rock.

It's WWE...that picture wasn't done by WWE, it was from a fan. WWE could easily write this as someone/something else and the IWC STILL would bitch that WWE insulted our intelligence.



Here is a long shot for tonight...




Rock turns heel.

 

[mattbel123]

Whatever. Logic is irrelivant here apparently. Just because someone snapped a picture of The Shield doesn't mean it WAS them.

My point was...WWE could've thrown 3MB out there. If someone got a picture of THEM you all would believe that it was 3MB that attacked Rock.

It's WWE...that picture wasn't done by WWE, it was from a fan. WWE could easily write this as someone/something else and the IWC STILL would bitch that WWE insulted our intelligence.



Here is a long shot for tonight...




Rock turns heel.

Your long shots and conspiracy theories are over the top and are very unrealistic.

What you've been stating isn't logic, it's your over the top opinion that will no where near come true.

 

[streicher187]

Think we will see Cena challenge Rock at Mania for the championship but my dream would be to see CM Punk come out and cry about losing and saying he deserves respect and the lights go out and Taker make his return and tell Punk if he wants respect then forget the championship because on any given night anyone can be champion but if he really wants respect end the streak..

This would set up Punk vs taker - I think that Punk could carry a match with taker no matter how bad a shape Taker is in..

It will start Cena vs Rock which I really didn't want to see again

Think we also will get a Jericho/Ziggler confrontation that will set up a match between those 2 and could steal the show at Mania..

If I could suggest one match that probably isn't even on the radar it would be the start of a setup for Goldust vs Rhodes with their father Dusty as the special guest referee at Mania and Goldusts career on the line

 

[Moneyinc]

I am really hoping we get something good from Orton. Also would LOVE to see Ziggler Jericho feud. I have no clue who the fans would be behind.

 

[closet_fan]

If I could suggest one match that probably isn't even on the radar it would be the start of a setup for Goldust vs Rhodes with their father Dusty as the special guest referee at Mania and Goldusts career on the line

Funny you mention this because I thought the same thing when I watched Goldust's RR entrance. They really put a lot of emphasis on Cody while he was coming down. While it'd be a cool "gimmick" match (bro vs. bro), I doubt it will happen for the sheer fact that the E wants the emphasis to be on Rhodes Scholar, not Cody himself.

What they could do is have Goldust talk Booker T into having a tag match since Goldust and Cody both have a past with Booker. But again, I doubt it will happen.