The Pointless Thread
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justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
What's stopping you?
Freedom 35
Kyle Orton Legend Killer
about a 45 minute drive
Brewers win anyways though Rickie Weeks game winning single in the 10th
Freedom 35
Kyle Orton Legend Killer
thing is though if theres anything worse than Gagne its Turnblow Riske wouldnt be bad I think theyll probably go to Mota if Gagne keeps fucking up
too bad Coco Cordero didnt want to come back after we resurrected his career
too bad Coco Cordero didnt want to come back after we resurrected his career
He probably would have come back if they would have payed him. They should have, you dont win without a good closer, its that simple, they had one and let him get away, big mistake.
Turnbow is the closer of the future still, they will give him a shot, Riske and Mota are good, but I dont know how good of closers they would be, can you say bullpen by commitee?
Turnbow is the closer of the future still, they will give him a shot, Riske and Mota are good, but I dont know how good of closers they would be, can you say bullpen by commitee?
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Kyle Orton Legend Killer
they offered him 4 years 42 mil and when he turned that down they decieded to that spend money on bringing in Torres, Riske, and Gagne yeah they probably should have signed him but they got alot in the end, Im not giving up on Gagne quite yet because he says he feels fully healthy for the first time in years but if keeps pitching like this then fuck him bring in one of the other arms we brought in because our bullpens incredibly deep
I still dont know about Turnbow hes had plenty of chances and hasnt performed, its just a matter of time for him.
I still dont know about Turnbow hes had plenty of chances and hasnt performed, its just a matter of time for him.
Gagne is amazing though. Was so good in Texas, then goes to Boston, blows, now goes to the Brewers and up to this point has sucked. Maybe he has confidence issues and can't pitch on a contender. Who knows? I dont see him turning it around, he doesn't have that pop on his fastball anymore, if he does good for him though because he was probably the most dominant closer ever in his prime.
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Kyle Orton Legend Killer
I dont understand it either, opening day there was a fairly legitimate excuse because the mound in the bulpen was so wet he could hardly warm up and his glasses fogged up on the mound then he went one two three on saturday and then today looks to go one two three again and lets up a home run I just dont understand it, time will tell for him I geuss
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Kyle Orton Legend Killer
too bad its not that easy Wes
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I guess the Lakers were too busy shoving their heads up their asses to play some defense today.
I don't know. Ovechkin could be better, but Crosby fits into the Penguins style. He brings out the best in players, and some players are on career paces because of Crosby even though he missed sometime. Malkin is also very good. He's a good scorer, solid passer, and plays solid defense.
I guess it is how you want to rank them. Crosby is a better passer, and is getting better defensively. Ovechkin just scores. I guess its your style of play but you couldnt go wrong with Crosby, Ovechkin, or even Malkin.
Carson Palmer is terrible. Good QB's should bring the best out of an offense, and Carson can not do that. He cant win a big game, and hasnt done anything since the 2005 season.
Stop with this. Alright you have a guy who has been to 2 AFC championship games, 1 SB, 1 SB win, 5 playoff wins, a playoff birth 3/4 yrs, and you rank him behind two choke artists? Give me a break. Ben Roethlisberger is a top 3 QB in the NFL. He makes plays behind a pathetic offensive line, and still finds ways to win.
He took the team on his back and raises his play in every big game minus the SB.
Ovechkin does all of those things. He doesn't pass because he doesn't need too and that isn't his role.
Ovechkin is probably the best Winger in the league when it comes to playing defense.
Vech is way better than Malkin, and he's porbably better than Crosby. I guess we'll find out in the playoffs and ignore the previous 82 games, after all that's how you judge who better players are and all
How? Palmer has done nothing. He gets a good receiving core, and cant find ways to win. I want to see what makes him the third best QB in the NFL when he cant even go to the playoffs.
Its all about winning, not averaging 7 wins a yr, and a sub par career winning percentages.
now as Ben Roethlisberger, he is tied for the league with 4th qtr comebacks since entering the league in 2004.
So give me proof why Palmer> Roethlisberger?
Its all about winning, not averaging 7 wins a yr, and a sub par career winning percentages.
now as Ben Roethlisberger, he is tied for the league with 4th qtr comebacks since entering the league in 2004.
So give me proof why Palmer> Roethlisberger?
Well lets focus stats as a career.
Crosby and Ovechkin came into the NHL in 2005
Crosby had 102 points
Ovechkin had 106 points
2006
Crosby had 120 points
Ovechkin had 92
Ovechkin also played 3 more games
the 07 statistics were already done.
in a career, Ovechkin has 16 more points but he's played 32 more games.
Crosby and Ovechkin came into the NHL in 2005
Crosby had 102 points
Ovechkin had 106 points
2006
Crosby had 120 points
Ovechkin had 92
Ovechkin also played 3 more games
the 07 statistics were already done.
in a career, Ovechkin has 16 more points but he's played 32 more games.
The steelers offensive line has been one of there strong points for basically every year Big Ben has been there, except for maybe last. Big Ben has had one good statistical year, his super bowl is tainted by horrible officiating in that game and he isn't the reason they won it, it was there defense and running game, wow how can you have a good running game and such a lousy offensive line at the same time? Wait you cant becaus until last year the Steelers had a great offensive line!
If you are talking about playing behind a shitty offensive line, look no further than Palmer. His O-Line is way worse that Big Ben's, so how can you hate on him, but give Big Ben credit because he plays behind a bad O-Line, when Big Bens O-line is much better than Palmers.
If Big Ben has another year like last, then I would move him up, but he needs two together, two years ago he was awful, so I am not willing to move him up past number 5 yet.
If you are talking about playing behind a shitty offensive line, look no further than Palmer. His O-Line is way worse that Big Ben's, so how can you hate on him, but give Big Ben credit because he plays behind a bad O-Line, when Big Bens O-line is much better than Palmers.
If Big Ben has another year like last, then I would move him up, but he needs two together, two years ago he was awful, so I am not willing to move him up past number 5 yet.
How bout this, put Palmer on Pittsburgh and Big Ben on Cinci, yeah Big Ben wouldn't be able to do anything there either. Big Ben has played on one of the best defensive teams in football since he began his career, Palmer? Hell his offense has to score at least 30 points most games just to consider winning. Big Ben is a factor of the system in Pittsburgh, most quarterbacks would succeed there right now, not many would be able to succeed in the mess they call the Cincinatti Bengles right now.
So now we are not giving people credit because they can stay healthy? I mean seriously yes he has played more games, but they have played the same number of seasons. Who is to say that Crosby doesn't go through a drought in them games and only average 0.5 points per game, you cant use that as an argument.
Oh and previously you said that Crosby is a better defensive player that Ovechkin, you are sadly mistaken. That is what makes Ovechkin so great is that he is a offensive player, but also plays just as physical as anyone else in the league, he wants to hit people, he wants to play defense, he wants to win just as much as anyone as else the ice and he shows it. Everyone just assumes Ovechkin doesn't play defense because he scores so many goals, well do you watch his games? If you did you would realize that he plays excellent defense, better or just as good as Crosby, certaintly not worse.
So Ben took a shithole of a team in 2004 to the AFC division championship. The Steelers i believe were 6-10 in 2003. Yeha 6-10. Basically kept the same team for the 04 season, but they go 15-1. Ben won 13 games that years.
Ben went to a team with a falling franchise and succeeded. Palmer and his team have been on a downfall ever since.
So to say Ben is a systematic Quarterback is ridiculous. They're a running team, but i guess Terry Bradshaw was a systems quartetback.
Ben was sacked 48 times lasts yr, second in the league behind Kitna, but Ben was still capable of posting 10 wins, while being chased around, and put on his ass every other play.
Ben went to a team with a falling franchise and succeeded. Palmer and his team have been on a downfall ever since.
So to say Ben is a systematic Quarterback is ridiculous. They're a running team, but i guess Terry Bradshaw was a systems quartetback.
Ben was sacked 48 times lasts yr, second in the league behind Kitna, but Ben was still capable of posting 10 wins, while being chased around, and put on his ass every other play.
alright, Lets compare sacks since 2005.
Palmer was sacked 17 times in 2005. He has solid pass protection. Ben doesnt
2006, Palmer was sacked 36 times, Ben was sacked 46 times.
Ben has been sacked 94 times in two years.
Palmer has been sacked 53 times.
in 2005 Palmer was sacked 19 times
Ben was sacked 23 times, but that was only in 12 games.
So to say Palmer has a worse offensive line is kind of ridiculous.
2004.
Palmer sacked 25 times.
Ben 30 times
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