The person who takes down "They" could be the next megastar of wrestling

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

So basically this "they" angle of TNA has drawn quite a bit of attention.While some are really liking it some are dismissing it as illogical and nonsensical.Either way it has got people talking.

I'll be the first guy to say that there have been quite a few fallacies in this angle so far but as we all know that in pro wrestling the career of any stable can be divided into three stages

Stage 1: Formation
Stage 2: Domination
Stage 3: Downfall

So yeah stage 1 may not have been perfect but i have a feeling stage 2 is going to be good.Why?? Because Hogan and Bischoff are at the centre of it and we all must admit that the best time for WCW was when NWO was dominant.It was so good that Bischoff forgot about stage 3

But this is one of those angles that I think will be judged by the culmination rather than the beginning.That is why its stage 3 that interests me.The guy who takes down this stable could be the next big thing of wrestling.Granted there's a lot more work to be done."They" must be made to look as dominant as they possibly can.But can you imagine the pops for the guy who would stand up to these guys??It would blow the roof of the Impact Zone.Imagine if this guy happens to be charismatic as well.It could capture the imagination of the fans as well.

Also just a few points of clarification.By megastar I mean a star on the Austin/Rock level.If thats too high at least on the level Cena was circa 2005

The reason why I'm saying this is though I am a WWE fan I just cant see WWE doing a great storyline which is going to catch us unawares.I'm not saying they cant but I certainly am skeptical.Also the guy whom WWE is pushing as their next megastar aka The Miz,well he doesnt do anything for me and for a lot of my friends who happen to be marks.So I do believe that this is the best time for TNA to capitalise

For if TNA create the next megastar of wrestling,it is only then that I do believe that they will be taken seriously

So my questions to you are:

1.Do you agree that the guy who takes down "THEY" will be the next megastar of wrestling?Give your thoughts

2.Who do you think it will be??Give reasons

3.Do you agree with me that the only way that TNA will be taken seriously is if they create the next wrestling megastar??

Just to answer my second question i believe that the guy who will end up taking down "They" will be either Pope or Anderson because according to me among the lot of young guys that TNA have Pope and Anderson are the most charismatic.Or could it be Alex Shelley.He is quite good on the mic as well.I'm sure though all of you diehard TNA fans would love it to be Styles or Joe.

 

[Kaneanite]

1. Not Austin/Rock level simply because TNA will never have the fame that WWE did during the Austin/Rock era.

2. I agree with your hypothesis of Pope or Anderson. I'm favoring Anderson here though. He'll want revenge for losing to 'They' at BFG and he really needs that title around the waist. Not to mention he's very charasmatic and brilliant on the mic. This could be TNA's way of saying 'thank you' in a sarcastic manner to the WWE for releasing Anderson.

3. I think TNA is already taken seriously. Overall, wouldn't you say the PPV was rather successful? However, yes. Another top of the line talent that they made themselves would be great for them.

And I totally agree about the Miz. He sucks.

 

[Fan_of_Wrestling]

1. I think the person they chose to take down "They" will become the center piece of TNA for years to come. Not Austin/Rock, but the TNA equivalent.

2. I think it's a toss up between Mr. Anderson, Samoa Joe, The Pope and RVD... I personally would think it would be a wasted opportunity if they give the job to RVD, but I would be more than happy with Anderson, Joe or Pope.

3. I agree with you in part that creating a "megastar" would give TNA to be put on the map. If they put the spotlight on these guys they have a chance to get back on track... but it would be a stretch to believe that TNA could elevate anyone to "household name" standard that Hogan, The Rock and Steve Austin had and have.

 

[ckoneagain]

why not bring back the suicide character as an assassin type guy, same character but he takes out 'they' one at a time, but quite publicly, he wouldn't have to talk or anything, he could swoop down from the rafters and grab one of them and off into the night again, that kinda mysterious stuff...like a sting for the next generation i guess. This way they can do storylines using multiple Suicides as they would obviously look the same and all. Deffinately a TNA character too and could carry on forever like 'The Stig' in top gear

 

[Rammsteinerteen]

The next megastar? Obviously TNA is too lazy to create there next megastar. They're going to buy their next megastar as always, maybe someone like Batista or Matt Hardy.

 

[rocksuperstarkaos]

Since TNA logic seems to be giving the ball to former WWE guys, my guess is It'll be Mr. Anderson. The Title went from AJ Styles, Rob Van Dam, Jeff Hardy, now the ONLY thing that makes sense (in the minds of TNA) is for Mr. Anderson to be the guy who takes down the New World Main Event Mafia (Since obviously TNA has combined the MEM with the nWo)

 

[trevor62794]

I think it will be a group who takes down " Immortal" it could possibly be Samoa Joe, Anderson, Pope, RVD and ........ Matt Hardy, it makes sense to me bring in the older brother to bring the younger brother down a peg.

 

[JackGallow]

What I really pray and hope to see is the person who ultimately takes down the group and wins the World Heavyweight Title is... wait for it... AJ Styles.

At first AJs alliance with Flair was great, in alot of ways I feel as most everybody else did that Flair really did guide and mold AJ and helped him become a true star. His mic work improved vastly and i truely believed him when he cut a heel promo. When it came to his work in the ring there was literally not a waste in motion, everything he did made sense and to me he really started coming to his own in all aspects of Professional Wrestling. Then out of no where hes defeated by RVD on impact for the World Title and since then has basically been downgraded to a midcard role. How in the hell are you going to take AJ Styles doing essentially the best work of his career and put him in a backseat? unbelievable. Now although its a long shot i really hope on camera AJ starts to show signs of frustration that he is contantly being overlooked or keeps getting denyed a world title shot or... something regardless he gets pissed has enough and vows to climb back to the top and reclaim the title that is his and this time he doesnt need Flair or anybodys help.
The reason I feel AJs face turn would really get over this time is that like I said before AJ is now giving the best work of his career, his mic work is greatly improved, and his in ring work is becoming legendary everyday. This is a man who was over from the first time he showed up in TNA, now that hes at his best I feel he is the perfect man to be the face of TNA and take down "immortal"

 

[ScruffDog]

I don't think that the person who takes down "Immortal" will get him the Austin/Rock level. TNA isn't popular enough for that. I think it will make him a big star, but not on the Austin/Rock level

I don't think it will be just one guy. I think it will be team of Joe, Pope, MCMG, Anderson, RVD, and Jay Lethal. I think Lethal will get the most out of this and make him a full time main eventer. I think Lethal seeing his hero Hogan turn his back of the fans will give him the motivation to take down "Immortal"

I think that this story line is a good way to really push some of there younger talent. By making these young guys main event superstars, TNA's popularity will raise big time.

 

[FrankGotch]

Personally, I don't think they (TNA) knows who "They" will be. This may be just a trial balloon in hopes of the idea catching some fire.
Who ever "They" may be, it would need to be a group of people with significance and holds some value, that is to make any of this work. Essentially, if I were a writer in TNA right now, with a TNA mindset, I'm asking myself; in regards to "they" and who "they" should be, I'm asking myself, what's Hacksaw Dugan doing now a day?

 

[mr_dna]

Well like you said Easy E missed stage 3 and theres nothing saying it wont happen again. The reason stage 3 was missed was Ego .

I thinks it more likely this to be the downfal of TNA then the makeing of a megastar .

I just thing they are going to fuck it up i truely hope they dont but Jeff was the wrong choice

 

[Xtremeenigma]

The next megastar? Obviously TNA is too lazy to create there next megastar. They're going to buy their next megastar as always, maybe someone like Batista or Matt Hardy.

i agree i think it will be matt hardy it has a better storyline with they vs matt hardy. i rather it be aj cause tna really needs to promote their stars that stayed with them not wwe rejects

 

[SydTinDad]

Oh boy, so much to say..............

1.Do you agree that the guy who takes down "THEY" will be the next megastar of wrestling? This "THEY" angle was so poorly done on so many levels, I don't have enough hours in the day to explain it. However, IMO it doesn't have the capacity to last past December. Too many people, too may OLD people, and TNA does not posses the brains to write a storyline to keep this going past the holidays.


2.Who do you think it will be? Because of lame ass story writing, I'll bet you my mortgage that before Christmas, we have a Rowdy Roddy Piper sighting to create a team to back Dixie Carter. YAWN, been there, done that.

3.Do you agree with me that the only way that TNA will be taken seriously is if they create the next wrestling megastar? TNA will never be taken seriously. It's Vince, and that's it. Nobody cares who TNA is outside of TNA marks and Dixie Carter offers nothing whatsoever to society to push her product. Note to Dixie, get on some REAL TV shows that are actually watched and not bullshit internet wrestling shows, **** yourself up with short skirts and boofie hair, and then people will notice TNA. Simply because, you can't do it alone with the talent and story lines you offer.

BTW, these guys as "THE FORCE TO TAKE DOWN THE NEW REGIME"?????

Matt 'lifetime underachiever without his brother' Hardy?
AJ "I Have Absolutely No" Styles
Samoa 'fat pig who has no talent' Joe
Guys, please.......I'm getting a rash. Joe and Styles are mid card individuals that only have overamplified exposure b/c the TNA talent roster who steals virtually all the TV time (Hogan, Flair, Sting, Nash, etc) is so geriatric.

 

[samcro1980]

what if they give that spot to carlito?

or should he be a part of immortal?

joe or pope...anderson is anderson don't really see him as champ.one he's over without it and doesn't need it.if anderson got title it would be like when hogan first got to tna and they gave aj the title and pushed him and nobody cared and they proved aj was no world champ.

but if this angle last for a while 6 months or more and the immortals dominate then yes whoever knocks jeff off the top spot or whoever is in that spot by then..would be a big time babyface if tna handles it right.

they should have morgan turn on the immortals and take down jeff when they get to that point..he can come out and say he was with them and fortune just to get close and to become the champ.but i doubt tna will do that.

 

[mrbooker]

GET OVER IT guys go to other companies, ok well fuck HHH, Austin, and Undertaker, because they were in WCW first! No its fine that they use to be in WWE Jeff hardy and pope, are completly different characters from their WWE counterparts.

Yea i rather see Aj over matt hardy to, matt hardy mic skills are garbage and 90 percent of the impact roster are better inside the ring, the whole build homegrown guys is a dead argument they have won titles,their is no need for TNA to rush THE SAME EXACT GUYS back into the title picture that couldnt draw a couple of months ago meaning the samoa Joe, Aj styles, etc yes they are great in the ring, yes i enjoy their feuds, but none of those guys are on te level of entertainment/star value as jeff hardy, Jeff Hardy's resume is unlike many CLEAN wins over HBK,HHH, Edge sorry but the homegrown thing is old their is a reason guys are trying to get over by attaching themselves to flair, or hogan, or sting and its because their are less than 4 people on the roster that still have some drawing power and can actually put someone over

 

[ilapierre]

I think the guy who takes down Immortal will be.....The Rock! In 3 years. Wouldn't that be something?
Or what if Nash, Hall and Sting come back as the Wolfpac to take on Immortal? What if they doublecross Sting and the old NWO is all part of Immortal?..what if Sting comes back as Sting in the rafters? What if AJ Styles breaks away from the pack? And what if at some point Hulk Hogan gets kicked out by Bischoff, Nash and Hall and all the young guys? What if Hogan is required to get back in the ring and if he loses he's out of wrestling forever? You could have Hulk Hogan come back for one last immortal run to try and save the company. Perhaps if all this pans out, Hulk Hogan will put himself over again one last time and be the one to stop Immortal.

to the guy who said the TNA mindset is to bring back Hacksaw Jim Duggan, I say is that not the WWE mindset. Last time I saw washed up old farts like Duggan, Dibiase, Piper, Steamboat, Slaughter, Hitman, Michaels, Undertaker, Vince McMahon,Triple H, Mae Young Tatakna, Doink the Clown, Jerry Lawler it was whenever i tuned in to watch WWE Raw a couple months back. At least if i'm gonna tune in to watch washed up old farts, its the two best old farts still alive, the guys who made wrestling and dominated the world title scene for decades without becoming their companys' owners' son in law, Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair.

mr dna, step 3 happens in every great storyline like this. In a takeover, there is always the beginning, the domination, and the downfall. A takeover storyline cannot last forever. It happens, it lasts for a while, and then it ends. Ego has absolutely nothing to do with anything lasting or not lasting. Right now there's a big Ego in WWE, hopefully that'll be their downfall. Nothing more i'd love to see than TNA owning WWE's video library and rewriting wrestling history to be even more less accurate than the McMahons have written it. Triple H could then say goodbye to his completely unearned legacy!!

 

[MarkoMan]

1.Do you agree that the guy who takes down "THEY" will be the next megastar of wrestling?
It really depends on how much hype THEY can get. The problem is that TNA isn't going to be taken seriously because you have people that legitimately think that everything TNA does is wrong, and with a mentality like that, those people won't be open to anything TNA does.

Also, TNA just might have to try and market better. I personally prefer that TNA sticks to what it's doing, maintain it's little 1 million viewers per week, and NOT try and make big changes to go mainstream because I have this feeling that in order to go mainstream, they're going to have to take a number of (the bad) pages out of WWE's book.

2.Who do you think it will be??
Well, the obvious choices have pretty much been shown. There's RVD, Pope, Anderson, Angle, and Joe. They are not united, but they are obviously PO'd. I'm pretty sure that the first person to have a title shot against Hardy won't do it, so I dunno. It's kinda hard to tell at this point.

If I had to guess, though, I would say Pope going to do it. My reasons for that guess isn't necessarily logical... I just like his position in this story, coming off the coattails of Sting and Nash to do this by himself.

Also, I doubt AJ would be the one to do it. I can't see the logical reason for AJ to leave the TNA originals that are a part of Them... except to win the Heavyweight Championship, but they have him pretty stable as the TV champ.

3.Do you agree with me that the only way that TNA will be taken seriously is if they create the next wrestling megastar??
TNA created AJ Styles, and they still aren't being taken seriously. So I'm not too sure how to answer this question.

Edit: way off topic, but if (hypothetically) TNA takes over WWE to "rewrite history" as ilapierre put it, would they bring Chris Benoit back into the books?

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

1.Do you agree that the guy who takes down "THEY" will be the next megastar of wrestling?
Probably not, but there are many variables at this moment in time to when "They" do run their course. Plus this whole storyline has received a pretty bad reception and it's less than a week old so TNA are going to have to do a lot to generate interest in this.

2.Who do you think it will be??
This is tough because I'd expect AJ to be the one to take on an invading force (MEM/Front Line story) but he already is "Mr TNA" so I don't know if it would be overkill to make him the 'hero' once again. Samoa Joe would have been my next choice, but his booking and mood seem too erratic for him to build up enough steam to get to that next level that would solidify him as a main even staple.
Again, we don't know how long this story is going to run for so it's hard to be definitive, but I think Matt Morgan would be in the mix if he can get a good rub from Fortune*

*Seeing as they are made up of mainly TNA mainstays, I wouldn't be surprised to see them turning face against 'They' depending how the storyline goes.

3.Do you agree with me that the only way that TNA will be taken seriously is if they create the next wrestling megastar??
It's not the only way, but it would certainly help if they had a performer who can work their way into a wider audience so that more people recognise that there is another wrestling promotion out there and can differentiate between them.

 

[airvar]

1.Do you agree that the guy who takes down "THEY" will be the next megastar of wrestling?Give your thoughts

It really depends on how the angle is played out, but they do have an opportunity (If done correctly) To create one hell of a buzz about it, and possibly pull off a wrestling mega-star.

2.Who do you think it will be??Give reasons

A.J. Styles.. Here me out.. RVD isn't enough, Pope isn't enough, Anderson Isn't enough, Somoa Joe can't do it.. They team up and STILL can't bring down immortal.. Give every top face in the company a shot at Immortal, then get rid of A.J. Make people forget he exist's, give him 3 month's off due to some random "injury".. I think your best shot at a Megastar is that guy, Turn him face, have him lead the face's against immortal, and eventually take them down using his knowledge of how they operate.

AJ Style's Is the only Guy I think that can pull off "saving TNA".. Especially since his Heel status right now allows for Immortal to dominate every current Face in TNA, and look virtually unstopable, making the moment AJ turns and takes them down even bigger.

3.Do you agree with me that the only way that TNA will be taken seriously is if they create the next wrestling megastar??

Yes, TNA need to create there own mega-star.. They need a guy who crosses over and brings TNA main stream publicity. This is the perfect angle to do it.

 

[Dzone]

TNA's megastars will never be as big as Austin and Rock because most fans refuse to watch TNA and they just stick with WWE like theres no other option. They will be definately written in TNA's history but written in Wrestling History (WCW/WWF/E essentially) is highly unlikely, unless Vince respects TNA and sees it as competition which at the moment he doesn't. I suppose when this happens Vince will probably pass down the torch and maybe let Triple H (=]) take over and go head to head with TNA, this may also start up a Hall Of Fame induction for TNA stars and the Hall Of Fame will include stars from all companies... which will never happen its too "happy-happy"... oh well we can hope eh?

 

[K++s]

I don' think that at this point any of TNA, WWE or ROH (hell, even if they combined their efforts) could create a mega-star that transcends the sport like Austin / Rock / 80's Hogan did. Like everyone (including Paul Heyman) noted: prowrestling isn't cool right now.

And to move beyond the core audience, it needs to be perceived as something cool. Or at least, something that totally sucks and unfortunately, the current quality in the Big 2 just isn't there.

 

[TheBWO]

Well,....here's my two cents (clink, clink).

For one, I can NOT see anyone like the likes of a Matt or Carlito to bring down "they" (hereafter referred to as T, because typing "they" is a stupid name to begin with). I say that because it would look SO much like desperation----having someone who never rose past mid-card status in the WWE be such a badass down in TNA . Now, I can see why the Pope was elevated because he can cut a promo, he can wrestle, and he was let go way to early for the WWE to realize what a gem they had.

For one, I think overall, this may be an Angle angle....after the promo of Jeff and his remarks about Angles ex-wife---and c'mon...we ALL ALL ALL KNOW what a "ball hog" (if he was on the court) Jarrett is when it comes to being in the spot light. Several King of the Mountains that he refused to lose to, and COUNTLESS times we're ALL reminded how he built this company, blah, blah, blah. I love TNA, but a word of advice---avoid the next three maybe four PPV'S because the focus will all be T winning it, or Fortune, etc....until the tide shifts. Now, with that being said, ultimately, it'll be a wrestle-off between Angle and Jarrett---either over the company, or (god forbid) over Karen (although....if she were to sashay her pretty little self shaking her money maker on the screen---I could live with the direction it would be heading until I grabbed a sock).

Overall....in watching TNA, the angles are drawn out about two months too long, and I hate to say this---but you'll see more swerves as to whos joining (a la NWO did---recruiting a new member basically every week or PPV before it goes the other way), and then (and even more God forbidding), Dixie will get involved by either bringing someone in from the outside, or she'll offer Sting and Nash an ungodly amount of money (remember...Nash said he was side stepping the money this time---key element) to make things right. Sting brings them down....and then retires....because he is considering that option.

 

[Kitten Cutter]

1.Do you agree that the guy who takes down "THEY" will be the next megastar of wrestling? Of wrestling, no. I doubt it'll go as far as the wrestling community. What it WILL do is give TNA what it's needed from day one: a cornerstone. A Franchise. Someone to market TNA as its face the way Cena does now, Austin did in the Attitude era, Sting did with WCW in the nWo days, and Hogan did in the WWF. TNA needs the guy to lead them, and the guy that fights the power successfully will be the face of the company. We can HOPE it gets to WWE level, but no guarantees.

2.Who do you think it will be? I agree with brother-poster JackGallow. It should be, needs to be, and maybe will be A.J. Styles.

We can look at a fresh face like an independent guy from ROH or wherever. We can look at established guys Rob Van Dam (whose contract may prevent it) or Mr. Anderson (whose catch phrase may be too much for mainstreaming) or up and comers like Jay Lethal (who always fights for TNA) or The Pope (who I've always liked anyway). What gets me is Styles right now is taking a back seat to Jeff Hardy, who (if I remember correctly) Styles has beaten once already. Styles is a TNA guy who has always carried the flag well, and if booking was done in advance, everything done just like Austin's build. Think about it: Austin comes in and becomes Dibiase's golden boy the same way Flair made Styles his. Austin eventually dumped Dibiase and became a vicious loner that led to his rise. Hardy is being made into the dark, brooding Anti-Christ after being a face; why couldn't Styles become the redeemed hero that knows the interworkings of the Immortals and Fourtune who decides that not only is he tired of being behind Hardy, but that Dixie is better for his future than Hogan and Bischoff?

If I saw it correctly (and if I booked it I'd make much more blatant but not have the announcers point it out) Styles didn't clap when Hardy came in. He just kinda glared at him. It would make sense, since Styles hasn't even SNIFFED the World Title and was given the TV title as condolences. Styles could lead Team Dixie (which right now looks like Mr. Anderson, The Pope, and Rob Van Dam, with Lethal maybe added later if he's not busy defending the X title) and be the face of the company again, only with a new sense of toughness and strength after his time with Flair. He is and will be stronger the same way heel runs fueled Austin and Cena.

3. Do you agree with me that the only way that TNA will be taken seriously is if they create the next wrestling megastar?

I definitely agree. TNA needs a marketable, mainstream superstar. Kurt Angle is an awesome wrestler but has no mainstream appeal. Jeff Jarrett wanted to be and failed. Rob Van Dam is too lax to do the appearances. Mr. Anderson is too mediocre at times. Jeff Hardy has too many legal problems. The Pope is too controversial (he's basically a better version of The Godfather). Lethal is too small. A.J. Styles could fit if done correctly, but they can't drop the ball on him!

 

[BigT1011]

I don't think TNA has the exposure to make a wrestling megastar yet. On a stage like the WWE, the one who took down "They" would definitely be seen as a huge star. But on the minor stage that TNA is right now, I don't think they could develop a megastar. Of course, this doesn't mean that the person (or persons) who takes "They" down won't be the centerpiece of TNA. That would be almost formality. But at the level TNA is at, I don't think it's possible for them to develop a megastar. Not yet anyway

 

[nmik2010]

since they are recreatin an NWO type angle here, mebbe they'll also recreate a new sting..some one with face paint and some who looks cool..the thing is none of em in the TNA roster are cool...they dont have the mic skills that matches the veterans..atleast now..and also sting coming down the rafters in WCW ws awesome..but if its done in TNA it'd suck mainly coz the TNA's shot in a studio and its too small..at this point it doesnt look like there will be a single star who'll standout..it could be a bunch of stars who'll fight against the immortals..