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Should CM Punk's current title reign be an extended one (a year plus)

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For me it's a toss up of the US title and the tag titles. The US title back in the WCW days was the alternative for how the IC belt is in WWE. At Wrestlemania the US title wasn't even defended because Santino was the team captain of Team Teddy which ended up losing. Not that Cody Rhodes did any better in his losing of the IC belt but at least the IC belt was defended. The tag belts were defended too but it was simply done on a live stream via WWE.com which was a strange choice. Then some might argue that the big gold WHC lost value when Mr. YES YES YES lost in his 18 second BS match to Sheamus but wait to see when Daniel Bryan gets the belt back. The WWE in general needs to find a way to utilize the belts better. Either have them defended on a regular basis or what's the point of having the belt. I remember when I think it was Mick Foley went through an extensive process of combining belts because there were so many. I'm not going to debate the whole draft thing but I do think it wouldn't kill WWE to consider combining the US/IC belts again just to make it more prestigious for the mid-card people. Things I felt were always a lot better with 3 titles. I can understand 4, 2 world title, one mid card and the tag team belts. I just realized I completely forgot about the Diva's title so it makes me think maybe that's just utterly worthless. No fault to Beth Pheniox because it isn't like she's not trying. Just awful booking and probably Kharma being out has postponed all plans.
 
The U.S. Title is down there, but not at the bottom. I feel Ryder's chasing of the belt helped a bit, but that was erased as soon as Swagger and Santino got it.

Right now, the most irrelevant title would have to be either the Tag Team Titles or the Diva's Title. The Diva's division is just awful at this point and it shows no signs of improving, even with Kharma off and waiting to return. This belt is irrelevant due to a combination of lack of effort and suck.

The Tag Titles, on the other hand, are irrelevant completely due to a lack of effort from the writers. WWE has a ton of wrestlers under contract and could easily put together a decent, if not better than that, tag team division. Instead, we have two guys holding those belts that you wouldn't even know were title holders unless you watched Superstars or the pre-show of WrestleMania. Building a tag division isn't difficult if the writing team puts in the effort. The current lack of effort, however, leaves the tag titles completely irrelevant.
 
The WWE in general needs to find a way to utilize the belts better. Either have them defended on a regular basis or what's the point of having the belt. I remember when I think it was Mick Foley went through an extensive process of combining belts because there were so many. I'm not going to debate the whole draft thing but I do think it wouldn't kill WWE to consider combining the US/IC belts again just to make it more prestigious for the mid-card people. Things I felt were always a lot better with 3 titles. I can understand 4, 2 world title, one mid card and the tag team belts.

Actually we should be one world Title and two midcard belts.

The IC Title belt can be for guys like Rhodes & Big Show who are pretty up there.

The US Title can be for the low card guys like Ryder, Swagger, and Santino.
 
I've gotta go with the tag team titles. There really aren't any tag teams to compete for it, and even if there were the company's attitude towards tag team wrestling would prevent anything from becoming of it. The second a tag team starts catching on they break them up and create two lack luster singles wrestlers and one of them usually gets fired shortly after while the other struggles in dark matches.
 
The U.S. Title is down there, but not at the bottom. I feel Ryder's chasing of the belt helped a bit, but that was erased as soon as Swagger and Santino got it.

Right now, the most irrelevant title would have to be either the Tag Team Titles or the Diva's Title. The Diva's division is just awful at this point and it shows no signs of improving, even with Kharma off and waiting to return. This belt is irrelevant due to a combination of lack of effort and suck.

The Tag Titles, on the other hand, are irrelevant completely due to a lack of effort from the writers. WWE has a ton of wrestlers under contract and could easily put together a decent, if not better than that, tag team division. Instead, we have two guys holding those belts that you wouldn't even know were title holders unless you watched Superstars or the pre-show of WrestleMania. Building a tag division isn't difficult if the writing team puts in the effort. The current lack of effort, however, leaves the tag titles completely irrelevant.

It does seem that the writers are actually putting in a little effort now, with Epico's bitch parade and putting Gabriel and Kidd together (and not just because they've added a team). It's still irrelevant, and it will never be looked at with the same degree of respect as a singles title, but WWE do seem to be looking to work on the division now that their main event scene is stable, the midcard title scene is looking up it's time to work on the tag scene.

Step one of WWE's plans should be to get the Colons on TV. Nobody's going to give a fuck if they don't know who the champions are. The next step is to get the titles off them, because the current champions suck. Give it to the Usos or Gabriel and Kidd. The Usos are more over, but because Gabriel and Kidd are two different people, with different backgrounds and personalities (when they display one) there's more scope for drama between the two. Additionally Rick "APOC" Victor and Leo Kruger who are under contract in FCW have a long history with Kidd and Gabriel that makes them very easy to write in when they debut.
 
At this moment is hard to choose one irrelevant title, like many people pointed out, the tag team titles aren't even defended at raw or smackdown, so it's hardo to know who has the belts, the divas title, looks like no one cares, the US title since Ziggler lost it, it became a comedy title, ever since Zack Ryder had it it became meaningless, the IC title looks like it's starting to gain some credibility, and the top two titles lost some meaning at wrestlemania, in my opinion the WH title should have been the most important match of the night considering that Sheamus won the royal rumble and earned the wrestlemania main event, and it was the joke of the night, the most important match of the night was between a selfish primmadona and John Cena, so wrestlemania showed that the titles are basicly meaningless because the focus on the WWE right now is bringing back people who walked out on the company years ago, and not the titles.........
 
Bro, the Championship has been irrelevant way before Ziggler lost to Ryder. Hell all the championships have become irrelevant.
 
add another one for the Tag titles... completely irrelevant... i literally just had to look up to see that primo and epico are the tag champs... the only other "teams" seem to be the Usos and whoever they decide to throw kofi kingston in with... i remember a time that they could have fatal four way tag matches for the belts, now i don't even think they're is four teams period...

the US title is pretty irrelevant also, probably because they are the most god awful looking things (along with the WWE title) that i have ever seen... when your titles look like an autistic 8 year old created them (like jeff hardy's TNA belt) then it makes it real hard for people to take them seriously...

the difference with the IC belt is Rhodes constantly carried it and constantly talked about it... santino come out at Wrestle-fuckin-Mania and didn't wear the belt...
 
Consider this, did the European title ever mean anything?
Was the Hardcore title ever relevant?
Were you ever tuning in to see the Light-Heavyweight Championship being defended?

Of course not. The only titles that have really ever been relevant are the WWE Championship in it's various incarnations, and the Intercontinental Championship (save for when it was briefly retired).

Why? Because the WWE title symbolises who is the top dog, who is the biggest draw, who is the most entertaining. Sure, it isn't always the most accurate indicator of who is the most popular, but in these cases the champion holds the strap in order to eventually put the chaser over.

The IC belt always has been the stepping stone into the main event, a sort of litmus test for the top level. Cody's reasonably lengthy reign indicates that he could be about to receive a main event push.

All other belts are mere props which minor feuds can be built around, since not every rivalry has to have a big narrative behind it.

Honestly the only championships needed are the WWE title, IC, Tag Team, and Women's title.
 
Furthermore, since the creation of a second 'World' championship, which is in no way as prestigious as the first, the secondary titles get demoted in importance to a seemingly tertiary level.
 
I would honestly say that the IC, US, and tag team titles are basically all tied as irrelevant.

Cody held the IC belt he what defended 3 times? The US title was a joke they gave Ziggler for a long run that meant nothing. In both cases it was just bling.

The tag team title hasn't meant ANYTHING In years either.

Now Sheamus has the World Heavyweight Title with an 18 sec win and probably as hated as Cena now. It pretty much made the 4 1/2 month run a joke with some pretty great matches between Bryant and others.
 
Agreed. A lot of the titles seem to have little or no meaning. Big Gold belt gets jobbed away in 18 seconds. WWE Title match isn't even your main event of wrestlemania. etc etc etc

i agree with the world title but the wwe title match was the best match at mania who cares if it wasn't the last match your place on the card on mania means nothing its the fact your even on the card
 
Having 2 shows and main titles for each has watered down all the titles and the competition for them. There are 5 titles in WWE and once you get below the top 2 which is are the WWE title and WHC the relevance drops big time. The IC title was defended at Wrestlemania for the first time in 3 years.

In the pre show split era Daniel Bryan, Sheamus, Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, Big Show, would be in the IC or US title race instead of main Championship. That would still leave a bunch on top guys for the Main Championship. The US belt is the 4th ranked title in WWE which puts it in European Championship range which meant barely nothing.
 
Bro, the Championship has been irrelevant way before Ziggler lost to Ryder. Hell all the championships have become irrelevant.
Exactly... Right now, it doesn't look like it's a recognition of who are the top guys, or anything like that. It's like they "reward" the most popular, with a bit of luck. And the midcard titles seem to be some kind of "let's see how they sell with a belt" test for up-and-comers, unless they wanna reward the other kind of popular guys.

And tbh, I think something that tells the current status of something quite well is asking: "would people mind if it disappeared?". Like, would someone mind if the IC title absorbed the US title? Or same with the WWE and Heavyweight titles. Right now, considering how things are... I don't think it would matter so much, since the US and HW titles pretty much seem the "B" belts to the US and WWE titles. Yeah, it gives something to feud about, but I feel like it's just an easy way out for creative, instead of coming up with interesting stuff.
 
i thought cody was a great IC. I think he can get it back at extreme rules. he needs the belt more than big show.

I think the us title should get more interesting with laurenitis and vicky vs faces. i think dolph vs tensai build to summerslam would be good. give tensai credibility and dolph a big man to fight. swagger would take the loses to tensai and we will get to see tensai's manager.

the tag division is still garbage and always will be until they give multiple raw/smackdown matches to build a fued. they also need promos!
uso = tables
kidd/gabriel = ladders
epico/primo = chairs
just do it wwe.
 
Tag titles/Divas title are the two least relevant titles. Santino is way over, and Show just put over the importance of his IC title victory on the grandest stage. The tag division has long been dead, and nobody is on Beth's level until Kharma returns.
 
I'd say he should have a really good reign, but a one year reign might end up alienating like how Cena's did. I wouldn't recommend he drop it to Jericho and what seems like in the near future Christian, as much as I love them, but it should be dropped after that.
 

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