One reason why the ECW Championship is so weak as a title is because EVERYONE in the brand competes for that particular belt. Look at Raw and Smackdown: if you're not at the top, you compete for the IC/US belt. Therefore, you have a good hierarchy of superstars in the other two brands. Yet, in ECW, there is only one belt that people can go for. I say that another belt should be added. Either the ECW Television Championship or the Cruiserweight Championship would do wonders for ECW, but even a normal midcard belt would do. My favorite would be to bring the Hardcore Championship back. Either way, there needs to be a second ECW Championship to strengthen the one we have now.
The Need for a Second ECW Championship
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I like the idea but it is not goning to happen.Lets look at this for a second.They got rid of the CW belt and it ain't coming back.SD just got a Diva's Championship(sucky idea) and WWE isn't gonna bring in two titles at the same time.Besides,its a one-hour program.I don't really think there is time for storylines to develop for two belts.But then again,there probally is.They did it with TNA.But there won't be two ECW belts anytime soon.Unfortunatly.
Hardyz hit the nail on the head. Only one hour of programming dedicated to that brand a weak isn't sufficient enough to justify a new title being introduced. However, I do feel like the cruiserweight title would work if the cruisers were allowed to perform the way they perform. Likewise I feel that the ECW title should bring back the hardcore feel to it. Give the brands some individuality, would it really hurt that bad?
Plus, do you really want the WWE to introduce a new title? The Midcard and tag divisions are just plain terrible at this point because the creative team simply doesn't know what to do unless it's a main event feud. The IC title in particular has been pretty much worthless since they brought it back. The US title is in better shape, but not much better.
Plus, do you really want the WWE to introduce a new title? The Midcard and tag divisions are just plain terrible at this point because the creative team simply doesn't know what to do unless it's a main event feud. The IC title in particular has been pretty much worthless since they brought it back. The US title is in better shape, but not much better.
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I fully agree with what Uncle Shocky is saying in regards to the Creative not having anything for anyone below the Main-Event. A good 25-30 superstars aren't being utilized and adding one more championship to a 1 Hour show where the Tag Titles are still defended would just decrease the value of all the belts around it.
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1. Struggling Divisions - The Intercontinental, United States, WWE Tag Team, and World Tag Team championships are struggling. They have enough people to warrant the titles, but they aren't using them properly. For instance, though he's annoying, Snitsky isn't being used at all right now, while he could be paired up with someone and be thrown into the tag team division on Raw. Knox, Burke, Benjamin, etc could be someone competing for the US title, since Matt Hardy has nobody to feud with. If you can't get the midcard divisions working on the A and B show, you have no ability to make a midcard on the C show.
2. Cruiserweight - This only works if you have a large number (not 3 or 4 people) that have NOTHING to do because the midcard and tag team divisions are so overpacked with talent that they can't fit. You can't have a successful Cruiserweight division if you are struggling with other titles, unless you just want to have MORE crappy divisions.
3. Why the ECW title sucks - Poor feuds with a lack of talent. Simple as that. Kane would be a decent ECW champion if he wasn't being forced to make it look like Chavo is a legitimate contender. Morrison was starting to make it look like the title mattered, but when he was suspended, he passed it onto Punk, who was stuck in go-nowhere feuds with the likes of Big Daddy V and the Miz (before he was good like he is now). Then he loses to Chavo, who enters the Royal Rumble and everything, making it seem like its a midcard title again as opposed to when RVD and Big Show were holding it. The ECW title needs two main things to keep it afloat: a champion that can feud successfully with a lot of people and look like a legitimate title holder, and challengers that look like they could beat him. Booking him against midcarders like Benjamin who can't reach that next level isn't going to work.
4. Why ECW is holding back the WWE - If you were to move all the talent from ECW to Smackdown and Raw, it would help out a ton. Your jobbers (Dreamer, Delaney, Richards, Nunzio) could be balanced out 50/50. The likes of the midcarders (Benjamin, Burke, Miz, Knox, Kofi, Bourne, Chavo) can be thrown into the tag team and IC/US contention. The main event talent (Kane, Morrison, Punk) can help get rid of the tiresome feuds for the WWE and WHC belts so we don't see HHH/Orton/Cena and Edge/Taker/Tista for 2 years straight.
WWE has no option for a midcard title on ECW until they fix the ECW title, the IC title, the US title, and both the tag team titles, which can't be done unless they had extra talent which would come from ECW, making it so ECW doesn't even exist. The only way to get around that problem is to hire loads of extra guys from Developmental to fill in the ranks, but they can't just be jobbers as we have more than enough of those already.
2. Cruiserweight - This only works if you have a large number (not 3 or 4 people) that have NOTHING to do because the midcard and tag team divisions are so overpacked with talent that they can't fit. You can't have a successful Cruiserweight division if you are struggling with other titles, unless you just want to have MORE crappy divisions.
3. Why the ECW title sucks - Poor feuds with a lack of talent. Simple as that. Kane would be a decent ECW champion if he wasn't being forced to make it look like Chavo is a legitimate contender. Morrison was starting to make it look like the title mattered, but when he was suspended, he passed it onto Punk, who was stuck in go-nowhere feuds with the likes of Big Daddy V and the Miz (before he was good like he is now). Then he loses to Chavo, who enters the Royal Rumble and everything, making it seem like its a midcard title again as opposed to when RVD and Big Show were holding it. The ECW title needs two main things to keep it afloat: a champion that can feud successfully with a lot of people and look like a legitimate title holder, and challengers that look like they could beat him. Booking him against midcarders like Benjamin who can't reach that next level isn't going to work.
4. Why ECW is holding back the WWE - If you were to move all the talent from ECW to Smackdown and Raw, it would help out a ton. Your jobbers (Dreamer, Delaney, Richards, Nunzio) could be balanced out 50/50. The likes of the midcarders (Benjamin, Burke, Miz, Knox, Kofi, Bourne, Chavo) can be thrown into the tag team and IC/US contention. The main event talent (Kane, Morrison, Punk) can help get rid of the tiresome feuds for the WWE and WHC belts so we don't see HHH/Orton/Cena and Edge/Taker/Tista for 2 years straight.
WWE has no option for a midcard title on ECW until they fix the ECW title, the IC title, the US title, and both the tag team titles, which can't be done unless they had extra talent which would come from ECW, making it so ECW doesn't even exist. The only way to get around that problem is to hire loads of extra guys from Developmental to fill in the ranks, but they can't just be jobbers as we have more than enough of those already.
No a second title would be a big mistake, and its for the simple reason that, by looking at the ecw brand on its own, there are only 15 active wrestlers on the brand. I am not including the boogeyman, who has not been seen for ever. I am including Bam Neely, who barely falls into the group, and Big Daddy V, who is out of action. Quite frankly most of the superstars on ecw are not good enough to hold a title, much less chase for one. Are you seriously considering putting a title on Nunzio, or Mike Knox. Or how about Colin Delaney. Technically, ecw does have a second title with the tag team titles held by ecw superstars miz and morrison. When you only have a pool of 5 or 6 guys on a roster who are actually in the running for a single title, it is not a good idea to introduce a new title. You think it is bad watching repetitive title matches on raw or smackdown, imagine ecw with 2 titles, and having the same challenger fight for the title every time it is fought for.
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Yeah their should not be another ecw title unless they straight out their other divisions first like the IC, World Tag team, and U.s. titles first. I mean a second title would be great but like i said they need to fix things first with their other division titles.
Before the WWE can think about giving the ECW brand another title, they need to make the mid-card belts on Raw and SD mean something. Hopefully the upcoming draft will help out all three brands so that better feuds for the belts can happen. As far as another ECW belt goes, unless the talent exchange between ECW and SD breaks off, I don't see ECW getting another championship. However, if they were to get another belt, I would like to see the WWE make a X-Division belt. The Cruiserweight Championship has run its course and I think creating an X-Division will make ECW different from Raw and SD. Also, making ECW live up to its name by being more "extreme" wouldn't hurt either.
I actually think a second championship could work if time was utilized properly. However, there is no need to introduce a brand new title. The Cruiserweight title along with 5 or 7 cruiserweights should be moved to ECW, hopefully at the WWE draft. I mean you have a point, guys like Nunzio, Bourne, Delaney, Knox, even Tommy Dreamer unfortunately just wont win the ECW world title.
O.K so Knox and Dreamer aren't cruiserweight materal, but I am sure the WWE can justify the rules for the CW title so that all guys on ECW can be eligible to win the title if they haven't won the ECW title before.
Also, the ECW world title should go back to the way it was in 2006. When it was usually defended only in Extreme Rules matches. This will make the ECW title unique and hardcore while still maintaining a 'world title' status. Remember in 2006 the matches for the ECW title between the likes of RVD, Kurt Angle, Sabu and even Hardcore Holly. They were hardcore and back then, the ECW title was seen as a legitimate World Title despite it being defended usually in Extreme Rules matches. There is no use of calling ECW "the land of extreme" if there is nothing extreme about it.
O.K so Knox and Dreamer aren't cruiserweight materal, but I am sure the WWE can justify the rules for the CW title so that all guys on ECW can be eligible to win the title if they haven't won the ECW title before.
Also, the ECW world title should go back to the way it was in 2006. When it was usually defended only in Extreme Rules matches. This will make the ECW title unique and hardcore while still maintaining a 'world title' status. Remember in 2006 the matches for the ECW title between the likes of RVD, Kurt Angle, Sabu and even Hardcore Holly. They were hardcore and back then, the ECW title was seen as a legitimate World Title despite it being defended usually in Extreme Rules matches. There is no use of calling ECW "the land of extreme" if there is nothing extreme about it.
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I think this is the best idea I've seen in a while actually. It makes perfect sense. Albeit lately ECW has been appealing to me a lot more, it still doesn't seem like a proper brand, such as Raw and Smackdown. ECW has some good talent in my opinion, and it has some things that the main brands don't. I agree with you. I think the way to further pull ECW up the ladder is to make a new title to give other superstars something to aim for.
ECW is the third brand on WWE, and the title isn't seen as prestigious to the company. This is shown by the ECW champion being able to compete in Royal Rumble matches, where the winner is supposed to have a shot at a championship at Wrestlemania. However, to the superstars on ECW, that championship means a lot. It's almost like symbolising they've suceeded, and could move up to the B show any day.
However, when you have that many guys fighting for one belt it take away from feuds for the title. Usually on Raw or Smackdown we have 1 main person after the belt, and maybe another keeping his eye on it. This makes us appreciate how hard it is to get up to being champion and even being a contender for the belt. Then we can look to the Intercontinental, and we see a clear ladder up for wrestlers.
In ECW feuding isn't as big due to their only being one belt. Nothing significant happens outside of the ring in my opinion. I think most ECW stars are skillful, and put on some good matches. But then when you think about what those matches mean in terms of the championship it seems that people are getting lost in a crowd, maybe making us miss out on some major talent. Having 2 belts would mean that we could see who was where in the business, and focus on more than just one person, as well as a group blending together almost.
WWE could also hold a big event in order to crown the new champion. Either something along the lines of a battle royal, or even bring in a whole new type of tournament. I think this would increase viewers for the show and generate interest in the brand. We would also focus more on a new talent who we are yet to know too much about.
ECW is the third brand on WWE, and the title isn't seen as prestigious to the company. This is shown by the ECW champion being able to compete in Royal Rumble matches, where the winner is supposed to have a shot at a championship at Wrestlemania. However, to the superstars on ECW, that championship means a lot. It's almost like symbolising they've suceeded, and could move up to the B show any day.
However, when you have that many guys fighting for one belt it take away from feuds for the title. Usually on Raw or Smackdown we have 1 main person after the belt, and maybe another keeping his eye on it. This makes us appreciate how hard it is to get up to being champion and even being a contender for the belt. Then we can look to the Intercontinental, and we see a clear ladder up for wrestlers.
In ECW feuding isn't as big due to their only being one belt. Nothing significant happens outside of the ring in my opinion. I think most ECW stars are skillful, and put on some good matches. But then when you think about what those matches mean in terms of the championship it seems that people are getting lost in a crowd, maybe making us miss out on some major talent. Having 2 belts would mean that we could see who was where in the business, and focus on more than just one person, as well as a group blending together almost.
WWE could also hold a big event in order to crown the new champion. Either something along the lines of a battle royal, or even bring in a whole new type of tournament. I think this would increase viewers for the show and generate interest in the brand. We would also focus more on a new talent who we are yet to know too much about.
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