The Kliq

[joejoe]

Where did all the hate come from all of a sudden? Lmao one person says it and the bandwagon is suddenly full.

It comes from people who don't know what they're talking about for the most part.
The Kliq was a group of guys who at the time were young, single and all lived for the business because they had no other personal ties so wrestling was their lives.

So what did Vince do? He pushed these guys who worked their asses off. If people think they got to the top by kissing Vince's ass and politicing then they're fools.

Think about it, if you were Vince and you had some people that we're over with the crowd, could work great in the ring and were willing to work 24/7 wouldn't it make sense to push them?

I can't think of anyone they held back during their time there. Undertaker and Bret Hart were still Main event Guys, and Austin wasn't ready yet to go to the main event.

The Rock was still at mid card status which is where he belonged, what were these guys holding back King Mable?

People need to get over these feelings and thoughts that the kliq was a bunch of a-holes or something. I'm sure they were cocky backstage but so what? They were making money.

On to the whole Shawn not losing to Bret because of his "knee injury". I don't know if he was really to hurt to go on or not but let me put it this way.

If you worked at a job and there was someone there that you flat out hated and he flat out hated you. Then all of a sudden you have to do something for him, like finish his expense report or something but you found a way to not HAVE to do it. I dare any one person here to tell me they wouldn't use that loophole to their advantage.

 

[Skillz]

LMFAO did you just say this thread is hilarious, then go on to say Hart, one of the most overrated of all time, is better than the Kliq? You have GOT to be kidding me. *Wipes tears from eyes*

What exactly makes Hart one of the most overrated of all time? If anything he's more on the underrated side.

Hart was a great wrestler who told a better story in the ring than anyone, even McMahon himself admits to this. He made a huge impact on the business by leading the way for smaller more athletic wrestlers (such as Michaels) to get to the top and become champion. He was a good draw in america and a great draw worldwide. He was a bigger draw than Michaels or Hunter ever were. Fact is, Hart gave more to this business than anyone in the Kliq ever did.

 

[HBK-aholic]

Haha. Yeah. The NWO or DX are the greatest ever faction.

The Kliq was just a bunch of bastards with ego's bigger than the earth.

And tell me, which stable do you think was the beginning of both these factions? Yeah, the Kliq.

 

[HBK-aholic]

What exactly makes Hart one of the most overrated of all time? If anything he's more on the underrated side.

Hart was a great wrestler who told a better story in the ring than anyone, even McMahon himself admits to this. He made a huge impact on the business by leading the way for smaller more athletic wrestlers (such as Michaels) to get to the top and become champion. He was a good draw in america and a great draw worldwide. He was a bigger draw than Michaels or Hunter ever were. Fact is, Hart gave more to this business than anyone in the Kliq ever did.

LMFAO are you kidding me?! Hart gave more to the WWE than Shawn Michaels? That's actually the biggest load of BS I've ever heard.

 

[OIL]

LMFAO are you kidding me?! Hart gave more to the WWE than Shawn Michaels? That's actually the biggest load of BS I've ever heard.

Dude, lady...whatever...you blates have a thing for HBK lmao. =]

 

[HBK-aholic]

Dude, lady...whatever...you blates have a thing for HBK lmao. =]

??

HBK is the beast all round wrestler to ever step foot in the ring, and certainly has given more than Hart.

 

[OIL]

And tell me, which stable do you think was the beginning of both these factions? Yeah, the Kliq.

Meh. I guess.

 

[Skillz]

LMFAO are you kidding me?! Hart gave more to the WWE than Shawn Michaels? That's actually the biggest load of BS I've ever heard.

Why don't you give an explanation as to why that is a load of BS?

 

[OIL]

??

HBK is the beast all round wrestler to ever step foot in the ring, and certainly has given more than Hart.

I dunno if id say he is the best all round wrestler. He is awesome, i'll give him that, but id preffer Hart over him anyday.

 

[Slim Pickns]

LMFAO are you kidding me?! Hart gave more to the WWE than Shawn Michaels? That's actually the biggest load of BS I've ever heard.

Care to explain why? Bret Hart turned down a WCW contract to take a smaller WWF one. Shawn ducked out of WM13 because he felt like it. Hart missed two days in twelve years. He gave far more than hbk.

 

[HBK-aholic]

Hart turned down a WCW contract until a year later when he took one? I don't particularly use this as a reason, but I find it stpid when people use him staying at WWE ONCE, but then taking a contract next time, see where I'm heading? I mean, if you're going to say that I can say Shawn Michaels NEVER left the WWE.

And, have you never heard of being injured? I'm not going into the whole "He was faking business" again, because the argument has been done to the death. But I believe he was telling the truth, and there's no way of us to find out otherwise.

 

[OIL]

Hart never wanted to sign that contract.

Vince told Hart to sign it because McMahon couldn't guarentee his paycheck every month. Hart stayed for a while without getting paid, but if you have a family ect, you need to make a living.

 

[HBK-aholic]

Vince told Hart to take the contract. Which is why I wasn't going to mention it. However when Hart fans bring him up staying the first time, I can simply say well HBK always stayed.

 

[Slim Pickns]

He may have been injured, but not enough to miss WM. How come he's healthy enough to win and defend the title and injured when booked to lose it.

Bret was forced out of WWF. Its pretty well known.

 

[OIL]

Vince told Hart to take the contract. Which is why I wasn't going to mention it. However when Hart fans bring him up staying the first time, I can simply say well HBK always stayed.

Fair enough.

But WCW never wanted him.

 

[HBK-aholic]

He may have been injured, but not enough to miss WM. How come he's healthy enough to win and defend the title and injured when booked to lose it.

Did he say no he wouldn't drop it? Did he go against Vince's orders and say he wouldn't drop the belt? No, he was injured. The same cannot be said for a certain someone else.

Hart marks are full of hypocrisy. Shawn is bad for not dropping a title when injured, but Hart isn't bad for not dropping a title on his way out, injured?

Hart is good for staying with the WWE the first time. Yet he gave more to the company than Shawn who never left it?

Bret was forced out of WWF. Its pretty well known.

He wasn't forced out, Vince told him to take it though. Fair enough. But I don't see why his fans go on about his staying once, and then not expect him leaving to be brought up.

 

[HBK-aholic]

Fair enough.

But WCW never wanted him.

Are you telling me WCW would have turned down Shawn Michaels? No way.

 

[justinsayne]

Are you telling me WCW would have turned down Shawn Michaels? No way.

Of course they would, WCW always turned away WWE's most successful wrestlers, I mean just look at their roster at that time, besides Hogan, Savage, Hall, Nash, Hart and others, who else did they take from WWE that was successful?, LOL

 

[HBK-aholic]

 

[OIL]

Haha but WCW had all the money in the world.

If Jake is right in thinking that athletes go for money over anything else, then surely they woulda got HBK if they wanted..?

 

[HBK-aholic]

HBK would never have gone to WCW.

 

[OIL]

Why?

Loyalty?

If WCW offered him millions then he would have gone.

 

[HBK-aholic]

It was his dream to be in the WWF as it then was. I couldn't see him ever going to WCW.

 

[OIL]

I guess.

 

[Ultramantis]

HBK would never have gone to WCW.

WCW would have definitely taken him, as they were open to getting all the talent available to them.

There was a point where Shawn was purposefully trying to get out of his contract so he could join the rest of the Kliq. Saying he never would have gone to WCW is wrong, as he was actively trying to. It all worked out for him in the end though. You've got to respect that hes changed from his old self, even if there are still traits of the old Michaels.

I rate Hart over Michaels. Personal preference really.