The Importance of Title Belts

[ashe draven]

Remember when titles in the WWE actually meant something? Currently we have the WWE, World, ECW, ic, us, & tag.(thank god they were finally unified). I believe an over abundence of titles waters down their significence. I remember during the invasion era when Mick Foley was the Gm, commish, or whatever & stated that their were so many titles now that if u didnt have one, something was wrong w/ u. At the next ppv the world, tag, & us/ic were unified, correcting the problem. Yet we have the same problem over a decade later, with the preconcieved notion we need to have multiple titles on each brand, which is nonsense. There needs to be ONE world champion, defending against superstars on all rosters. ONE I.C. champ doing the same. & a T.V. champ(remember the great reigns/fueds of the tv championship on wcw & ecw?) defending the strap on every telecast, making it a stepping stone & very coveted title. Just my opinion. Thoughts?

 

[Slowdude]

We have seen this topic a million times. Face it, we have three brands (Raw, Smackdown, ECW). Each brand has a World Title, Raw and Smackdown have a mid card title each, a female title each and all three shows have the tag titles. We are in a brand split, people are normally stuck on one brand. If all the titles were unified then only a couple people will be involved in each title feud. Since most feuds are booked over titles now if half of them were to disappear more people would be left without something to do. I'd rather have people fighting over something then nothing. Don't say the writing staff could just be more creative? They could be more creative now if they tried but they aren't, removing titles wouldn't help. (Though two female titles isn't needed, they are trying to make it seem like both are of importance with the 8 diva tournament for the Diva's and the McCool/Layla vs Mickie vs Beth feud on SD.)

 

[CynicSteve]

Personally I'd love to see the TV title come back. It was always such a building block.

 

[straightedge martyr]

Titles is the main way that WWE tries to elevate the mid card players.

Apart from Kofi, i can't think of anyone in the last few years who received a push that wasn't title involved.

Just something to think about.

 

[wwediehardmark]

i think they need to bring back the crusierweight title back and put it on ecw and give it 2 evan borne and not that lilttle green toad and yes i know borne isnt on ecw but he needs to be

 

[fredstephenson]

absolutly right it would seem that the aim of the game for the wwe right now is to push some of the younger talent and to make people see them as true stars.but im finding it hard to really get into the newer wrestlers and i think the eccesive amount of titles is one of the many reasons why along with a lack of storylines,gimmicks,stables ect.

when there was just one of each title and not to mention no brand split it made it easier to believe that whoever held one of these titles to be a headliner or at least a future one.now i think there is just to many titles to keep up with what i would do is get rid of the brand split and all the unnecessary titles and any unneeded wrestlers just think of the fueds you could have and would definatly get if there was only one of each title being thought over by every wrestler in the company that would seperate the wheat from the chaff and in turn create new stars hell we might even get a real tag team division

 

[Vintage]

You need multiple titles in the wwe because they operate 3 different flavors of product. They kind of operate in the same way a traveling circus does. That doesn't mean that the titles become watered down or useless at all.. unless they are booked to be so. Poor booking has all but destroyed the Intercontinental Championship. By comparison, the US title has a little more prestige going for it right now. WWE title is shot due to multiple swaps between the same people and short reigns, the WHC is going strong and is defended often. You get the idea.

I do agree that these need to be defended on TV more often in matches that matter, not squashes. There should also be 1 title that is defended on on 3 shows, and the TV title would fit perfectly. It's a great way to showcase new talent, or keep someone like Jericho available to appear anywhere as needed.

 

[dmacizdman]

i remember back when randy savage had the IC title. at that time, the title was just as big, if not bigger, as the heavyweight title.

ricky steamboat finally beating savage at WM3 was huge.

 

[mr.davidson]

The Tittle game inn WWE is a joke now

It use to be a awsome thing...... i remember if you had a tittle back in the day u were the main attraction.

Now adays it seems like vince throws a belt on anyone just 2 see if they can become a star ...... and if they dont work out he just trys it again

the Tittles have no credibility anymore...

Also i think wwe relays on the tittle scene to much always making it a triple threat match for a belt so people get an interest.....

y not do somthing better have someone hunt the belt 4 awhile... and use some other good stories to keep people interested......

Macho man vs Jake.... no tittle..... that is a great example... where no tittle was needed to keep people interested..

i think if they did more matches like that then the tittle wont change hands so often and give more credibility back to the tittle and make them worth somthing.....

oh well.... until that time, guesss we will just see the main players in the WWE triple threat themselves to death until vince decides to get oringinal again.

 

[Rzarectah]

I think that the only thing wrong with the title picture right now is the unified tag titles. Right now, they need the unified titles because they don't have enough tag teams to have consistent feuds on both brands. When they do, I would like to see the titles split.

i know this is a lil off topic but i was reading a note on here about rekson a airplane freaking out i do not know how to post a new tread but someone should post one about it and lets talk look wat happenned to cade could reks be next????????

You need to comment 10 times to be able to start a new thread.

 

[Wrestlefan27]

It isn't the number of titles that makes the belts worth less, its the amount of times they change hands. Guys used to hold belts for a long time, and that made them worth something, because it seemed they were difficult to win. Some of the greatest wrestlers in the biz only held the titles a couple of times. Now it's common for a main eventer to be a 10+ time title winner.

Now that most people are aware of the fact that it's a work and the sport aspect is gone from wrestling, the titles used as a props in the storylines.

Damn, I should have proofread that last sentence.

 

[marklouis]

I've been thinking about this lately as well, and I agree with you. I would merge the world titles, tag titles, and women's titles. I would eliminate the U.S. title and make the Intercontinental title the premier undercard title. I like your idea of the TV title, and it would be a great stepping stone belt for younger guys.

I would keep ECW seperate, almost as an independent organization. They would have an ECW title and ECW tag title, and each year at 1 of the PPV's the 2 champion tag teams could meet for bragging rights. I think at this point, ECW needs to be like a developmental program. Give young guys their start, and you can also put more established guys who are returning to the WWE (due to injury or because they left the company) and guys near the end of their career who are willing to put over younger guys.

I've been thinking about other things as well-meging the brands, decreasing the number of PPVs, etc.-but I'll leave those ideas for another day.

 

[The Deadly Viper]

In my opinion I think they should bring back the undisputed championship, I thought this was a great championship and really gave the guy who held it that extra bit of a push. However at the moment I would merge the all the titles except the Us and Ic as we need those for the seperate brands I think for the midcarders on each roster and one womens title is enough

Also I think ECW should get another title on their show, in my opinion the hardcore title should come back as I believe they need more than 1 title on that show to boost the ratings and get a lot more people active. Like you can have the christian's and the regal's battling for the ECW title. But then you can have another title for the people building up for the ECW title like Zack Ryder possibly

 

[MrPerfect316]

Yep, been sayin it for years now. Too many belts, almost everyone has a belt and its just pointless.

When there were 3 titles to be ahd, it meant something. It felt realistic, it felt like it was a WORTHY title to hold or be known as the champ. Its all lost its meaning now.

And yes i hate the brand split, it just kills all of the hope to see mix match fueds goin on and what not. They seem to inter connect the brands a little more now, but honestly...i want 1 brand, all the superstars, 3 maybe 4 titles tops. But i know, in my dreams.

 

[JuviJuiceIsLoose]

I'm torn on the Title Belts.

Yeah, too many Belts can water down a product, but multiple titles give guys who wouldn't have a shot chances to be champion.

The NWA had tons of Titles back in the day.

The World Heavyweight Title
United States Title
National Heavyweight Title
World Tag Team Title
U.S. Tag Team Title
World 6-Man Tag Team Title

If the WWE unified all the Titles, we'd really be stuck with the same people over and over again.

My problem with the Titles in the WWE isn't how many they have, but who has them and how long they've had them.

Putting the WWE Title on Sheamus devalues the Title more than anything, because now they have a champion who isn't over at all.

I'm a big fan of Tag Team Wrestling, and I hate the fact that the Tag Titles are like the 3rd or 4th priority to DX.

They care more about the whereabouts of a Leprechaun then the titles on their shoulders.

Hell, during the last Raw, they didn't even have the titles with them when they went to the ring for their separate matches.

I bet you Triple H or Shawn Michaels would never not have their belts with them if either one of them were World Champion.

With the I-C/U.S. titles, the WWE has done a better job of making them seem important than in recent years.

I'm not a huge fan of the guys who have those titles. Especially McIntyre, but the belts are at least important to the guys who have them.

The WWE definitely doesn't need 2 Women's Titles.

The WWE definitely has too many Title Changes, and they should do something about that.

There's no way in hell Edge should be a 9 Time World Champion in 4 years.

Everyone who has won a World Title in the WWE should have half the Title Reigns they had.

That would make the Titles mean more and make the Title Changes mean more.

 

[cm ben]

I'm with you all with the idea that the titles change hands too quickly... then the wrestlers brag about the number of times they've held the title, or the announcers present it is a positive thing.

Wouldn't the really impressive feat be being a one-time champion, who never lost of the belt?

So, yeah, titles don't mean as much as they used to. But when you think about the number of stars the WWE is trying to balance while keeping a diverse audience interested, I guess they're doing just about as good a job as anyone could.

 

[MrPerfect316]

Speaking of belts...there is one belt that i feel could and should be back into the mix but just for pure wrestling entertainment value, and thats the Million Dollar title.

Ted has a PRIME oppurtunity to follow in his fathers footsteps and become interesting. Im sure he has the whole "omg i dont want to be like my daddio, im me"...which is well whatever, i think Ted could start up some sort of money based faction as the rich kid thats Teds son. Id go for it...but i just think that the dude needs to liven up especially having the same name as his father.

Im sure alot may disagree, but i think its a golden chance for him...if he did it right, it could be cool.

 

[Tastycles]

If the WWE didn't have belts for everyone, then there'd be a serious dearth in the midcard. Right now, a feud can be built over a title fairly easily, and it can give people something to do if they are in the hunt. When WWE had one hour of regular television, they had three titles. Now they have 6 hours, and 8 titles, which is actually a hell of a lot less exposure. If you take Superstars out of the equation, you have 5 hours and 8 titles, whereas back in the day, towards the end of the attitude era they had 7 in 4 hours, and after the invasion it got ridiculous. In short - bigger roster, more airtime requires more titles.

 

[Why Always Me]

With a unified roster, I would have the following titles

WWE Title (with the undisputed title design)
Intercontinental Title (unified with the US title)
Tag Team Titles (drop the Smackdown version of the belts)
Television Title (similar design to European Title)
Cruiserweight Title
Women's Title (unified with Diva's title)

IMO you cant keep both the IC and US titles because they are too similar. So the TV title would be the modern day European title, but with the time limit rules from WCW.