The Hardy Boyz or The Motorcity Machine Guns?

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They are considered the most popular tag teams of their respective time periods. But which of the two can truly be considered the better team? There is no denying that The Hardy Boyz have drawn out more success with their careers spanning close to 15 years. However the MMG have become an international highlight so to speak as they display many styles in the ring. A solid mix of Mexican, Japanese and the occasional British style. Of course Tag Team style is their most predominant feature. Their combination maneuvers have become their biggest attraction.

The Hardy Boyz don't fall behind though. They turned tag team wrestling into a Wrestlemania feature contest. Their "Devil May Care" attitude has inspired countless other teams as well making them future single's stars as well as some of their rivals. High on popularity for 12 years, it can't be denied the duo had a big hand in the success of the Attitude Era and beyond.

However, in my eyes, to pick a better tag team, I have to go with MMG. It's not a matter of favoritism, it is a matter of analysis. The Guns are the embodiment of team work. The essence of a tag team. They highlight the tag team style greatly. The Hardy's on the other hand, as great as they were with their spots, that was all there really was. They never really showcased as much team work as the other guys they worked with (3D, E&C, etc.) ever did. While the success of The Hardy's can't be denied, calling them the better tag team just doesn't seem accurate. They may have been more popular than The Gun's but in no way were they a better Tag Team.

Agree or disagree?
 
For me, it has to be the Guns. Sabin and Shelley are just so damn fun to watch.

I don't give a toss if their double team moves make as much sence as a fire extinguisher containing methane, or that their matches consist of highspot after high spot. The matches are wrestling pornography. Who cares about their artistic merit. Who cares if there's a story being told. I watch wrestling to be entertained and no tag team in the buisness entertains me as much as the Guns.

and from a strictly analytical sence, Sabin and Shelleyare better than Matt and Jeff on their own, so they win in that sence too.
 
For Me its also The Guns just like AJ said Sabin and Shelley are just flat out more entertaining than the Hardy Boyz.I am not bothered If people say that they just do High Spot after High Spot. I also watch wrestling to be entertained and that is what I am every time I see the Guns in a match. They are the most entertaining Tag Team in recent years. The Guns are innovative and Very Fun to watch. The Hardyz may be better as singles competitors but The MCMG are the better Tag Team.
 
The Hardy Boyz

Stats in decade:

5x World Tag Team Champions

Longest Reign: Two months

Brothers Matt and Jeff Hardy fly into the top five.

Along with Edge and Christian and the Dudleyz they delivered some great matches.

Back in the Attitude Era, the titles would change hand almost every week so, they never really had them long.

Over the years, the team has disbanded and both Hardyz have had great singles careers.

Matt has become a former ECW and US Champion, and Jeff has become a three-time World Champion.The Hardys are one of the greatest tag teams of all time and they are so charasmatic.these two, invigorated and rebooted the tag team division. When the Dudley’s had their Tag Team matches of the year, these two were their opponents. Both hugely over in their own rights, they still have what it takes to put on a great show.

Wrestling fans, new and old, around the world, know the Hardy Boyz, and they have plenty of gas left in the tank.
 
It has to be The Hardys. They are the greatest tag team of all time. They are very exciting, very successful, very over etc. MCMG don't hold anything towards The Hardys and they never will, they are a good team I'll give them that but you can't compare them to The Hardys.
 
Its the Gunz hands down, They are more entertaining that the hardyz in their prime, Gunz are so much like the Rockers, the hardyz have a more impressive resume because they teamed for alot longer than the Gunz so far give them time
 
It has to be The Hardys.

Why?

They are the greatest tag team of all time.

Opinion. What makes them the best tag team ever?

They are very exciting, very successful, very over etc.

So are the MCMG.

MCMG don't hold anything towards The Hardys and they never will,

Opinion.

they are a good team I'll give them that but you can't compare them to The Hardys.

Sure you can. Two young guys who team together and have a fuckton of chemistry and exciting spots in the ring. I'd argue that the guns do the whole highflying tag team schtick better than the Hardys. And they (well Shelley mostly) have more charisma than the two combined.
 
The Hardy Boyz

Stats in decade:

5x World Tag Team Champions

Longest Reign: Two months

The Motorcity Machineguns:

IWGP Junior Tag Team Champions for 7 months.

TNA World Tag Team Champions for 3 months and still counting.

Much more stable and solid runs as champions.
Brothers Matt and Jeff Hardy fly into the top five.
Top 5 what?
Along with Edge and Christian and the Dudleyz they delivered some great matches.
MMG along with Beer Money, Generation Me and 3D have given us some of the best matches in a long time and several candidates for feud and match of the year in just 2010.

Back in the Attitude Era, the titles would change hand almost every week so, they never really had them long.
The Dudleys and E&C collected those belts many more times than The Hardy's even though they were all presented as equals.

Over the years, the team has disbanded and both Hardyz have had great singles careers.
Irrelevant. We are discussing them as a team and their success as a team.
Matt has become a former ECW and US Champion, and Jeff has become a three-time World Champion.The Hardys are one of the greatest tag teams of all time and they are so charasmatic.these two, invigorated and rebooted the tag team division. When the Dudley’s had their Tag Team matches of the year, these two were their opponents. Both hugely over in their own rights, they still have what it takes to put on a great show.
And The Guns along with Beer Money, The British Invasion, Generation Me and 3D have done the same to TNA. It features a legit Tag Team division and has become the highlight of TNA. Something WWE completely lacks these days.

Wrestling fans, new and old, around the world, know the Hardy Boyz, and they have plenty of gas left in the tank.
Jeff doesn't count as both.

It has to be The Hardys. They are the greatest tag team of all time. They are very exciting, very successful, very over etc. MCMG don't hold anything towards The Hardys and they never will, they are a good team I'll give them that but you can't compare them to The Hardys.
And why can't I compare them to The Hardy's? I claim they are better than The Hardy's. They showcase the tag team psychology a hell of a lot better than The Hardy's ever did and ever will. The Guns don't need a ladder or a table to have a 5 star performance. They can adapt to any style. The Hardy's on the other hand ran with the same gimmick of jumping off a ladder. That's pretty good, but it works best when you're a single's wrestler. The reason being that as a tag team, you should act as a tag team. Not act as two individuals doing similar tricks.
 
I have never Been a fan of the Hardy boy so I might be biased But the MCMG blow them out of the water they can wrestle and do the Spots. Hardy's were just a spot team
 
I am a little bit biased here, as The Hardy Boyz were the first wrestlers I became a huge fan of when I got into wrestling in the late 90s- early 2000.

I had never seen anything so spectacular as the Swantom Bomb, it just blew my mind and I thought their high-flying skills and look was so cool at the time.

Now though, looking at how the Hardyz performed in the ring back then, it is not as impressive. While still awesome, Jeff was nothing more than a spot-monkey and extremely sloppy, something he still is today, while Matt was more reliable and solid in the ring, but offered very little charisma and stayed out of the limelight, leaving all the big bumps to his brother.

The MCMG are, along with Beer Money, the best tag team in the world IMO. They are more excellent in ring competitors, can fly with the best of them and Shelley is an extremely competent wrestler. Sabin is very good also, and they have a wide range of tag-team manouveres, something I think WWE is lacking- teams that have unique double team moves. I am a big fan of these.

I am going to have to give this one to MCMG.....but it hurts to do so, after the time I spent as a HUGE Hardyz fan in school. I even got made fun of (in a jokey way) by friends for being such a fan, while they were all into Austin and Triple H, and I was there in my Hardyz T-Shirt lol
 
Interesting thread.

I'm going to have to say that the Machine Guns are the better team. Don't get me wrong, the Hardy Boyz were successful as a team, but they didn't have what the Guns have now. Let's face it, 'Team Xtreme' ended before WWF turned WWE. I'm not going to count the 2007 run that they had as the real "Hardy Boyz" because it wasn't. It was nothing more than a mere ressurection for the sake of having them both back together. They captured another reign as champions, but was it anything like what we saw when they first came about? I didn't feel like it was.

The Guns are an incredibly charismatic tag team and have so much potential. They could be used anywhere. TNA, CZW, WWE anywhere. I think people only say that the Hardy Boyz are better because they were in the better company. It's a no-brainer that most of the talent that are in WWE are going to come out better than most of the talent that are in TNA, that's just the way it works. Until TNA up their game and start becoming a real threat to WWE, then that'll probably change.

Let me ask you this, rhetorical or not, whichever way you decide to interpret it; did the Hardy Boyz ever put on the epic performance that the Guns did against Beer Money in the Tag Team Series? I don't think they did. Given, the Hardyz along with Edge, Christian, Bubba and D-Von, brought life to one of the most spectacular matches in wrestling, the TLC match. Which brings me to my next point.

I personally thought that the Hardyz were just all gimmick and no sport. They were the death-defying extremists that jumped headfirst into hell to get somewhere in the WWF and WWE. They never really made me feel fulfilled the way the Guns have always done. Ever since they appeared in TNA up until how well they performed at Bound for Glory, I've never been dissapointed.

Personal wise which probably doesn't matter and is probably a harsh dig at the Hardyz.. do you ever hear about the Guns behind put in prison and arrested for having possession of illegal drugs? Do you ever see one of them go on Youtube and moan all the time about things people really aren't that bothered about? I never have.

I've made up my mind.

The Motor City Machine Guns are the better tag team and surpass the Hardy Boyz on tremendous levels both entertainment wise and talent wise.
 
No offense to all those who love the Motorcity Machine Guns (I'm quite a fan, too), but generations from now in the history of professional wrestling MMG will NOT be remembered over the Hardyz. Sorry, not gonna happen. What have the MMG done in their careers together? Besides right now in their first real TNA tag team title reign they've done absolutely nothing of note. The Hardyz helped to revolutionize tag team wrestling again when it had all but fallen to shit. The Hardyz have been a part of some of the best matches in history (TLC) and ones that not brought something new that changed the industry, not just in the WWE but everywhere. MMG are great, but do they have the longevity of the Hardyz? Will they make the same impact as the Hardyz? I really think people are giving MMG a little bit too much credit here. They need to do a lot more for tag team wrestling and for their careers in the years to come, accomplishments and groundbreaking things to be on par with the Hardyz when you look back on both tag team histories.
 
Interesting thread.

I'm going to have to say that the Machine Guns are the better team. Don't get me wrong, the Hardy Boyz were successful as a team, but they didn't have what the Guns have now. Let's face it, 'Team Xtreme' ended before WWF turned WWE. I'm not going to count the 2007 run that they had as the real "Hardy Boyz" because it wasn't. It was nothing more than a mere ressurection for the sake of having them both back together. They captured another reign as champions, but was it anything like what we saw when they first came about? I didn't feel like it was.

The Guns are an incredibly charismatic tag team and have so much potential. They could be used anywhere. TNA, CZW, WWE anywhere. I think people only say that the Hardy Boyz are better because they were in the better company. It's a no-brainer that most of the talent that are in WWE are going to come out better than most of the talent that are in TNA, that's just the way it works. Until TNA up their game and start becoming a real threat to WWE, then that'll probably change.

Let me ask you this, rhetorical or not, whichever way you decide to interpret it; did the Hardy Boyz ever put on the epic performance that the Guns did against Beer Money in the Tag Team Series? I don't think they did. Given, the Hardyz along with Edge, Christian, Bubba and D-Von, brought life to one of the most spectacular matches in wrestling, the TLC match. Which brings me to my next point.

I personally thought that the Hardyz were just all gimmick and no sport. They were the death-defying extremists that jumped headfirst into hell to get somewhere in the WWF and WWE. They never really made me feel fulfilled the way the Guns have always done. Ever since they appeared in TNA up until how well they performed at Bound for Glory, I've never been dissapointed.

Personal wise which probably doesn't matter and is probably a harsh dig at the Hardyz.. do you ever hear about the Guns behind put in prison and arrested for having possession of illegal drugs? Do you ever see one of them go on Youtube and moan all the time about things people really aren't that bothered about? I never have.

I've made up my mind.

The Motor City Machine Guns are the better tag team and surpass the Hardy Boyz on tremendous levels both entertainment wise and talent wise.

People will remember the Hardy's matches at No Mercy 1999, Royal Rumble 2000, WM 16, TLC I and II more than they will remember any match MCMG has or will have in TNA.

The Hardys just connected to the crowd with me more than the Machine Guns. I've always found Sabin bland and Shelley as well if he wasn't associated with Kevin Nash. The Hardys helped revolutionize tag team wrestling in the early 2000's and that to me puts them above MCMG.

I don't think Matt and Jeff's personal problems should have any bearing on whether they are a better tag team.
 
I don't think either of them are the best tag teams of their era, or the most entertaining or the more anything really, but MCMG are certainly better. The Hardy's were popular for two reasons 1) Their chemistry and energy, also helped by Lita 2) Jumping off stuff, and only one of them did that. In terms of them as a whole package though can anyone remember either one of their non-gimmick matches or their promos from the period, and they were very lucky in the Dudleys and E&C to have two of the most charismatic teams of all time carrying them, other wise you'd have the 90s answers to the Killer Bees and nothing more.

MCMG on the other hand are pretty much the same in the ring. You know, jumpy. On the mic they are about a million times as interesting, and they haven't needed a smorgasbord of randomers to make them interesting. By virtue of not using Gangrel, Terri Runnels, Michael Hayes etc, they take this contest.
 
Machine Guns by a mile. They have more to offer than jumping off high things. They have a great look, killer promos, and they can actually wrestle.

Make a match between MCMG and the Hardy Boyz where neither team is allowed to go onto the second turnbuckle or above, watch who will carry who...
 
People will remember the Hardy's matches at No Mercy 1999, Royal Rumble 2000, WM 16, TLC I and II more than they will remember any match MCMG has or will have in TNA.
Who's to say the Best Of 5 Series isn't gonna be remembered? 5 of the best matches of this year. 5 stand out tag team matches. If you think Ultimate X, you are bound to find The Guns in them and see them work as a cohesive unit. As a real tag team. Even when it's a free-for-all. There is a big difference between having 3 or 4 stand out performances than having a consistent delivery of solid one.

The Hardys just connected to the crowd with me more than the Machine Guns. I've always found Sabin bland and Shelley as well if he wasn't associated with Kevin Nash. The Hardys helped revolutionize tag team wrestling in the early 2000's and that to me puts them above MCMG.
The Guns have helped keep tag teams alive. The Hardy's revolution was so big, that WWE's tag team division is practically nonexistent today.

I don't think Matt and Jeff's personal problems should have any bearing on whether they are a better tag team.
Neither do I, but actual in-ring chemistry makes The Guns the better tag team. They pull off the concept of team work to a tee. That's team work. Not high spots off ladders.
 
People will remember the Hardy's matches at No Mercy 1999, Royal Rumble 2000, WM 16, TLC I and II more than they will remember any match MCMG has or will have in TNA.

The Hardys just connected to the crowd with me more than the Machine Guns. I've always found Sabin bland and Shelley as well if he wasn't associated with Kevin Nash. The Hardys helped revolutionize tag team wrestling in the early 2000's and that to me puts them above MCMG.

I don't think Matt and Jeff's personal problems should have any bearing on whether they are a better tag team.

The match between Andre and Bollea at Wrestlemania 3 was one of the most memorable matches of all time and almost every single wrestling fan knew that but does that indicate that both of them are the greatest wrestler of all time?

And Guns aren't connected with the crowd? They're one of the most over wrestlers in TNA right now. Fans are always enthused during their matches and chant "This is Awesome" and give them standing ovation. More than the HARDYZ had in their career.
 
Opinion. What makes them the best tag team ever?

It's my opinion, everybody's allowed an opinion, anyway they are very succesful and apart of arguebly the greatest tag team feud ever (opinion). Okay maybe I shouldn't of said best tag team of all time maybe I should of said my favourite tag team.


Like I said everyone's allowed an opinion.


Sure you can. Two young guys who team together and have a fuckton of chemistry and exciting spots in the ring.

Fair point, I'm not going to deny that. They both have alot of chemistry and create high spots in the ring.

I'd argue that the guns do the whole highflying tag team schtick better than the Hardys. And they (well Shelley mostly) have more charisma than the two combined.

Okay this is an opinion and like I said everyone's allowed an opinion, but I personally disagree with you but that doesn't mean that either of us are wrong because it's my opinion.
 

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