"The Enforcer" Desmond Wolfe??

[manmagoonbt]

After watching Impact tonight, that would be an awesome role for him. Stick him with Flair and Styles. I think it would be perfect. They could even throw Daniels with the group and make a tag team out of Wolfe. I think it could be fun. Wrestling is missing a true faction right now and this could be it.

What are your thoughts?

 

[Morpheus101]

After watching Impact tonight, that would be an awesome role for him. Stick him with Flair and Styles. I think it would be perfect. They could even throw Daniels with the group and make a tag team out of Wolfe. I think it could be fun. Wrestling is missing a true faction right now and this could be it. What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are exactly as yours -- I think this would be a GREAT faction, far better than anything on WWE right now. Desmond Wolfe is a class act and an "enforcer" role would definitely work for him. Wolfe is almost main event material anyway and putting him in a stable with Flair & Styles would be a great idea. All 3 of them looked convincing tonight -- Wolfe was the missing link.

 

[beefthelegend]

I think a group with AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, and Desmond Wolfe is an amazing concept. I mean no one wants to say the "H-word" but, i really think that group would be a new generation of Horsemen. But regardless of Horsemen or Daniels, I think that this would make alot of sense. It makes Wolfe important, and keeps him from slipping too far outside of the title picture, despite there being a heel champion. I think it benefits Styles as well. It makes him more of a "cowardly" heel, and i think that is what he is going for.

The only problem is, I dunno if Nigel...err Wolfe is big enough. I mean TNA has some sizeable guys- Abyss, Morgan, Supermex, and I don't know if Wolfe is "big" enough to handle those type of guys. But i guess that is what makes him uniique-he doesn't need size.

 

[Lancer]

I think a role like this is perfectly suited for Desmond Wolfe. It gives him a sense of purpose, and keeps him from slipping too far from the main event picture as another poster has stated.

He definitely has the technical skills, and has shown he is capable of mind games as well, which he demonstrated in his debut program with Kurt Angle. What he lacks in size against the monsters of TNA, he can easily make up for with these attributes.

If they decide to go the stable route to give AJ some goons, Wolfe is a natural fit into such a group. Put in Daniels and possibly Matt Morgan (unless they decide to keep him face), and you have loads of talent right there, that the fans can buy into.

 

[Morpheus101]

I think a group with AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, and Desmond Wolfe is an amazing concept. I mean no one wants to say the "H-word" but, i really think that group would be a new generation of Horsemen. But regardless of Horsemen or Daniels, I think that this would make alot of sense. It makes Wolfe important, and keeps him from slipping too far outside of the title picture, despite there being a heel champion. I think it benefits Styles as well. It makes him more of a "cowardly" heel, and i think that is what he is going for.

The only problem is, I dunno if Nigel...err Wolfe is big enough. I mean TNA has some sizeable guys- Abyss, Morgan, Supermex, and I don't know if Wolfe is "big" enough to handle those type of guys. But i guess that is what makes him uniique-he doesn't need size.

Wolfe isn't the biggest of wrestlers, but he could actually become TNA's "cerebral assassin" if they push him the right way. He is an extremely amazing talent and TNA were lucky to sign him, being as he could have easily signed with WWE.

Let's hope TNA capitalize on this and form that stable.....not even WWE have been able to put together such a powerful stable since the days of Evolution.

I think a role like this is perfectly suited for Desmond Wolfe. It gives him a sense of purpose, and keeps him from slipping too far from the main event picture as another poster has stated.

He definitely has the technical skills, and has shown he is capable of mind games as well, which he demonstrated in his debut program with Kurt Angle. What he lacks in size against the monsters of TNA, he can easily make up for with these attributes.

If they decide to go the stable route to give AJ some goons, Wolfe is a natural fit into such a group. Put in Daniels and possibly Matt Morgan (unless they decide to keep him face), and you have loads of talent right there, that the fans can buy into.

Since such a stable would probably need a man of size, Matt Morgan would be a great addition to such a stable. Actually, Morgan would be PERFECT for such a role......talk about a great new "Four Horsemen" kind of stable. They may even end up being better than Evolution.

I seriously hope the TNA creative team read these forums -- there are some damn good ideas floating around

 

[Chrome]

Its a good idea since Wolfe and Aj have not had a fued. Put them together.. BUT every stable needs a big man..

Seeing AJ, Wolfe, and Ric Flair together is missing some muscle.. AND all stables have a tag team.

Throw in Hernandez or Matt Morgan into the mix to give them some size. Probably Hernandez since Matt is over huge as a face.

Last week Ric Flair said something about being worn out by AJ and his Legion...

I was thinking.. "The Legion" would be a good name for that stable..

AJ, Wofle, Matt Morgan, Beer Money w/ Ric Flair

Beer Money with Flair would be good too

Another stable to rival them would be...

Extreme Rulez (enter another name here lol)

Jeff hardy, Shannon Moore, Abyss, Motor City Machine Guns


However,...I think Daniels is best out of the stable as he needs a new character all together and new wrestling tights.. his current one make him look like he is wearing diapers. lol He needs a new character...

 

[MetalRastaX]

Hrm...either everyones overlooking it or just not wanting to say it...so here i go..ok i know u guys have all your ideas and input but here me out and maybe shoot me some feedback good or bad, but this is what i really think this possible stable should consist of (if it becomes a reality)so yeah i think it should have the basic stable/faction formula; leader (main title) the tag team(obvious) and the enforcer or midcarder(global or x-division since this is a tna thing)and mainly the main element is to put together guys who have had some history together either good or bad and brief or long but more or less some history. now we r talking wolfe here and aj and with that combo along with flair i really see a re imagining of the 4 horsemen but we should throw in joe and daniels for good measures.

i know i know "but joe just came out of feuding with aj for the title, how lame would that be"...ok now we do this have joe and daniels join out of the sense that they want their legacy to be solidified and go down in history as the best..just work with that and have them take no side in the civil war of tna..let them come out on top and start calling shots or maybe have the stable be a product of it..idk its just an idea or kinda something id like to see in tna..i apologize for the length of my comment... thank u and dont forget feedback good or bad...peace!

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

I like the idea of a Horseman-like group. I like Flair being the manager, AJ being....well, being Flair. I like Wolfe as the Enforcer. I wouldn't mind seeing Wolfe as the 3rd guy of the group, but he would have to stay as the 3rd guy, which would mean no main event push for a few years (I don't think he's right for TNA champion anyways).

If I were to add a fourth guy, it would be a big guy. Arn Anderson was always the Enforcer, but that basically meant his job was to watch Flairs back. But the Horseman always, well at least in the very early 90's on up, always had a Big Man as an additional enforcer type. And I DO NOT want to see that be Matt Morgan. Morgan isn't that good, IMO. He is absolutely TERRIBLE on the mic. He is so-so in the ring, nothing special. The fourth guy, for my money, should be Rob Terry.

Is Rob Terry much better than Morgan? No. But he really has nothing to do right now. He is the Global champ, but I doubt that will last very long. He would be a perfect fit for this group. The thing I like most about Terry joining this group is that he is muscle, plain and simple. His career probably isn't going straight to the top (I think they are going to push Morgan big time).

You really have to be careful about who you put into a stable like this. You can't have too many "egos." One or two guys have to be comfortable being back up. Being role players. And with Terry and Daniels, you have a possible tag team right there. Those two could dominate the tag division, and play well off of one another as a tag team.

I think with Flair managing, AJ Styles leading, Wolfe as the Enforcer, and Rob Terry and Daniels backing them up/being a tag team, the sky is the limit for that group, no matter what they decide to call themselves (and it won't be the Horseman, I guarantee that).

 

[Shocky]

I'm pretty sure that the IWC collectively shot their loads at the sight of the Holy Ric Flair, AJ Styles, and Nigel McGuinness sticking it to Hulk Hogan. Hell, you add Brian Danielson to the mix, and throw John Cena into the scrap pile of bodies being pummeled, and probably spontaneous human combustion would have happened.

As far as the topic though, no doubt Nigel needs this. The guy is solid in the ring, and watching his match last night with Abyss, he made it look damn believable that he could match up with the Big Man. The way Nigel works a particular body part is freaking fantastic. The shame, Nigels finisher is a clothesline which everyone saw the Blackhole Slame coming from. Terrific spot, but Nigel looked damn good.

Nigel just has the nasty Brit element to him, and the in ring ability to go against anyone. If you're making a new stable, then Styles and Nigel are the building blockings. Flair doesn't count because he's practically irrelevant at this point.

 

[Chicago1989]

I can definitely buy into Desmond Wolfe as an enforcer for a group. He's got a good combination of size, ring psychology, and mic skills. And with Chelsea by his side, it also adds more "Flair-Approved" into this stable. And since TNA doesn't really have anything to do for him at the moment, you might as well make this group and show WWE that Desmond Wolfe is doing better in TNA than "Daniel Bryan" over there.

You can also throw in Daniels in there considering him and AJ are friends and heels or has TNA tried to have us forget about that all the sudden?

 

[Suneeboy]

They would have to be fools to not see how natural Wolfe fit in last night with AJ and Flair. They need muscle, and although Wolfe isn’t necessarily a big guy, he is definitely cold and calculating with his attacks and his approach.

They would also have to be fools to not see what a great compliment Wolfe was to Flair and AJ. Plus whenever AJ needs a partner, he can’t depend on Flair to get in the ring with him. They need a technician, an enforcer, and a hitman. Desmond Wolfe is all 3. Maybe bring in Daniels to work the X-Division and you could be on to something.

Someone mentioned “The Legion”….oh boy I like it. TNA is very IWC friendly, so I think this could happen.

 

[ramblinroy68]

This has been discussed and discussed since AJ and Flair have teamed up. I don't like Wolfe in the "Enforcer" role. What made the relationship work between Anderson, Flair, and Tully was that Flair was no doubt the only main eventer of the three.

Wolfe has the potential to be a main eventer, and a world champion. TNA would keep this group together for a short while only to have them turn on each other fairly quickly.

I think if they are going to do a faction, it should be AJ, Daniels and Tomko. Let Tomko and Daniels be a tag team. They do need a 4th guy. I would love to see Kaz in that role, or possibly bring in a guy from outside the company. A guy like Kenny Dykstra, Brent Albright, or Phil Shatter.

I personally think the group should be called SECOND NATURE. They could end interviews saying Winning Gold isn't hard for us, It's 2nd Nature. Plus you get the play on the Nature Boy name.

 

[shattered dreams]

Yeah, this "idea" that wolfe would fit well with those two is not exactly new. I have always liked it though. It looks like they do plan on using the global championship and wolfe could fill a role in that division well. I do not think he would be the enforcer though. I think they of course do not want to simply copy the idea and would merely pull parts of its various makeups so flair is the enforcer in a more managerial role of sorts like arn was later. I do not see them using daniels in such a stable, it is too high profile for how they have booked him lately. I am not sure who else they might look at. I could almost see orlando jordan but it would not be my choice.

If they thought Kaz could play heel I could see him representing the x-division, but I have my doubt about him doing well in that role. For size, I am not sure where they would go. Morgan seems like a questionable fit to me mostly because the role would likely be too small for him. Tomko could work but then I would have to watch Tomko every week, not to mention the storyline wouldn't exactly flow. If sting went full heel and joined that would be almost third man material but it seems really unlikely, I fully expect sting-flair at BFG and sting is not exactly into heel acts.

 

[Maikeru_1979]

A.J.----world champ
Wolfe--Global & Tag
Daniels-Tag
Joe-----Muscle plain and simple(also easiest to replace when needed)
if i was to do a Horsemen like stable that is the lineup I would use. WHY?

Joe i feel after the "kidnapping" will be coming back with a clear and focused mind to do as much damage as possible Ala Arn Anderson.

Use Desmond and Daniels as the tag team. I've always kinda felt that Daniels is a Tag wrestler more than a singles just something about him. He's a high flyer and a technical wrestler in one. and with Wolfe just with the look and his current wrestling style he and chris could make a great team.

as for the name Apocolypse would be best if they were doing a Horsemen group seeing as how they 4 Horsemen name originated with the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse

 

[TheMainEvent]

After watching Impact last night I thought the same thing. Everyone has been bitching about Wolfe getting beaten by Abyss cleanly in two minutes or so but really it could lead to bigger things and Wolfe got his heat back with the beatdown followup so who really cares about the loss in the long run. If the plan is to have a Horseman like faction with these three then it makes perfect since to have Wolfe in the match with Abyss last night and lose to setup the beatdown. It reminds me of how Evolution started with seemingly random interactions with the members and following a beatdown of Steiner the faction emerged. Wolfe fits perfectly with his classy suits style, smug look and stiff style. If to do a Horseman faction they would need another member and he should be the true enforcer. Have AJ the maineventer, Flair the manager, Wolfe the rising midcarder and an enforcer. Throw in another member such as a heel turned Robert Roode or the possiblity of a debuting Burchill as the true enforcer and you got one heel of a faction.

The idea of Roode works well with his rich snob persona and could setup a nice top face run for Storm as well. Remember when Roode was coming out in Flair like robes with Tracey Brooks? He has the Horseman look and style down as well. Toss in the possiblity of Helms debuting alongside Moore and Hardy and we could have a fun faction feud between the Omega guys and this new Horseman group. The name of "The Legion" works well too. I really hope they follow through with this idea.

 

[Dagger Dias]

Desmond Wolfe as an "enforcer".... that could be interesting I guess. I'd rather see him in singles action without being a lackey for Styles, but I suppose this would give him something to do until Lockdown or so, since he won't be able to be a world title contender until then. I dunno about adding Daniels into the group because the four of them don't seem like they would make a believable stable, they would just be "2 guys who have nothing else to do right now but hang out with Flair and the TNA Champion". They would need a some type of name or gimmick that ties them all together if they are going to form a stable. I'm not entirely against Wolfe being Styles' "Enforcer" for a while though because it will give him something to do for the next few weeks.

 

[scorpioking1026]

I loved seeing Wolfe teaming up with Flair and AJ to beat down Hogan and Abyss. Although I'm still not sure what TNA's plans are for Wolfe since he also helped Bischoff out with Abyss and Bischoff hasn't been "friendly" with Flair & AJ. Is Wolfe a hitman for hire?

Personally I would love to see the stable of Flair, AJ, and Wolfe. I don't really see Desmond in the "enforcer" role however. I see him more like Dean Malenko when he was part of the Horsemen, maybe its just the great technical skills, I don't know. If the plan is to add a fourth member, I believe it has to be someone that will really stick it to Hogan. My candidates:

1) Mr. Anderson Upon on his arrival, Anderson boasted about how Hogan personally called him up to join TNA, playing along with the fact that he was also apart of Hogan's Tour, just as Flair was. So in a way it seems like Anderson was intended to be Hogan's "golden boy" of sorts and for Flair to "steal" him away would give Flair even more power over Hogan. Add in the fact that Anderson is also feuding with Kurt Angel, who not only got screwed by Flair and Styles but also has finally gotten on the same page with Hogan, I could really see him being a logical choice. Throw in also the mean streak he has been using in his feud with Angel and I could see him being the enforcer role.

2) Samoa Joe He is the easy joice for the role of the "Enforcer". Big, mean, Samoan, the complete package. The only problem is that will TNA turn him yet again so soon after his heel run with MEM? If they did decide to, it would be another good way for Flair to stick to Hogan since he would then have control over the two most famous TNA originals.

3) Matt Morgan After seeing what happened between Hernendez and Beer Money, it is starting to look like the tag champs will be breaking up soon. Morgan has the muscle that Flair's group could use, plus his persona fits in good with the rest. Plus he was on "Gladiators" so just another way to screw Hogan.

Although I agree with most of about how The Legion would be a good name, the only problem with that is there is only one true legion and that is and will forever be, The Legion of Doom I just can't see them using that name. I can see being something related to the horsemen such as, The New Testament, The Revelation, or as someone already said, The Apocalypse. Here's hoping that this is the direction that TNA has decided for Flair, AJ, and Wolf cuz it has the potential to be classic.

 

[mooseman]

Same mindset but different direction as the original poster. How I see it ending up is like this:
Dillion - Flair
Flair - Styles
Tully- Wolfe
Anderson's - Beer Money

That gives you a strong, well spoken, believable ass kicking stable. Why would Beer Money join? Simple they are being held down by Bischoff/Hogan. So much to the point they tried to "take Beer Money out". Behind the scenes wise I truly get the feeling they prefer being a tag team than being singles wrestlers. They are committed to ressurecting tag team wrestling.

 

[IkeTurner]

No question Desmond would be a great fit. Any other time id suggest that Abyss be the muscle of the group, but im not sure that would work if he turned at this point. Especially after what happened on Impact. With Morgan looking like hes about to turn i think he would fit that role. Especially after Beer Money takes the belts off them due to Hernandez setting up the match. Flair, AJ, Wolfe, Morgan and Beer Money. Call them H2 or HM2 and they could always hold up the 4 fingers.

 

[The Viper Orton]

Yes to them excpet Daniels. I would like to see these three together along with Matt Morgan, he is muscular heel material. The best faction I can think of in both WWE and TNA

 

[Tastycles]

They will probably end up with some clone of the four horsemen, but with a shit name, but I think it's probably a good thing for Wolfe. With no midcard title, he's reached a glass ceiling for a while and being in the same group as two huge names will help him immensely. The biggest positive as I see it though is that when AJ's inevitable face turn happens at some point later this year, he has someone heel to feud against that Flair can be in the corner of, rather than us having to pay money to see Ric Flair's old arse drag itself to the ring.