now that roode and storm have split, can fortune continue ? will we see daniels make up with styles....again ? i really liked this faction, in concept. i love the wrestlers that made up this faction though it felt like they rarely felt like a cohesive unit that had established feuds. they seemed to coexist with immortal even after they split away from them, aside from maybe a short short feud about a year ago. whats next for fortune?
...the End of Fortune?
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JWGunslinger
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I found myself wondering the same thing thursday night after Roode won the title by cheap shotting Storm. I feel like what is going to happen is it will be Fortune vs Roode and each guy is going to attempt to beat Booby but he'll defend against all of them and cement himself as a dominant champion and cut any and all ties to the group. I also get what you're saying about them not really working as a unit, it felt more like a couple guys who're friends and the hang out and celebrate after one of them wins a big match. I would have liked to see them all work together a little more as of late and have some good feuds as a group but the thing is that the boys of Fortune are all young hot superstars that are the center of attention in the company. They need to branch off and focus on themselves otherwise there's a big chunk missing from Impact, I think that's why we haven't seen too much of them teaming up to get shit done, they have each others backs(til now) but the focus on their own personal success as well.
ShawnRulesHBKNWO
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I feel that it's been over for a while. Let's face it, Kaz sucks. Good spot monkey but he isn't already what he and Air Boom already is. AJ needs to be on his own and Beer Money needs to be a big feud for the next few months. Let a STORYLINE play out. Do NOT have this happen really quick. You already ruined the potential Bobby Roode face storyline. At least save face and work the Roode heel run well.
na, they haven't been a team since Flair split, other then coming to the ring for a promo here and there.
Beer Money were obviously gonna fued, i thought it was gonna happen when Chris Harris returned, seemed destined for Storm to turn heel again but they didn't.
as for Roode being a heel, well i don't get to see impact for another hour here but i always felt he was a natural heel anyway. his original singles character was very Hunter Hearst Helmsley Blue Blood mixed with Ravoushing Rick Rude and it worked. not complaining that they put Beer Money together, they've done well for the Tag Team scene but it certainly put Roode on the backburner as a singles guy for how many years?
Storm is good enough but Roode is clearly the better of the 2 overall.
Let Roode play the jealousy card and either take out AJ, Storm and Kaz and take Daniels as his sidekick or just start a rift between all of them which splits it for good. it's helping noone them being together other then less air time needed.
Beer Money were obviously gonna fued, i thought it was gonna happen when Chris Harris returned, seemed destined for Storm to turn heel again but they didn't.
as for Roode being a heel, well i don't get to see impact for another hour here but i always felt he was a natural heel anyway. his original singles character was very Hunter Hearst Helmsley Blue Blood mixed with Ravoushing Rick Rude and it worked. not complaining that they put Beer Money together, they've done well for the Tag Team scene but it certainly put Roode on the backburner as a singles guy for how many years?
Storm is good enough but Roode is clearly the better of the 2 overall.
Let Roode play the jealousy card and either take out AJ, Storm and Kaz and take Daniels as his sidekick or just start a rift between all of them which splits it for good. it's helping noone them being together other then less air time needed.
The whole "faction wars" ethic of TNA/IW booking over the past couple of years didn't pan out, and now you're seeing the final coughs and gasps of that soon-to-be corpse.
Think back to a year and a half ago. You have EV2, you have Immortal, you have Fortune. I honestly forget who was heel and who was face at the time- if someone has the spreadsheet that keeps track of those things in TNA/IW on hand, feel free to throw that in there. EV2 collapsed in under itself like it should have- what do you know, when you put together a bunch of guys who never drew, they aren't going to draw. Fortune's been effectively dead for months, especially since the start of the BFG series- you simply don't see people talking about Fortune anymore, rather, what the individual members are doing. Immortal exists for the sole purpose now of ensuring the Eric Bischoff character has goons he can call on. (This could mean they go on for quite a while, as if there's one thing I don't expect TNA/IW to do under any circumstances, it's write out the Eric Bischoff character while he's still working as executive producer.) Beyond showing up to deliver beatings when the Bischoff character calls for it, there's no Immortal.
We're entering the singles age of TNA/IW. People (speaking in gross generalities, not individual specifics) want flamboyant personalities in their professional wrestlers today, not disciplined competitors working towards a common goal. Save that for ROH, which still sells wrestling storylines. The dominant stable isn't over- there's going to come another powerful group of wrestlers that will put asses in seats. But it's going to be a lot less predominant in professional wrestling than it used to be.
Think back to a year and a half ago. You have EV2, you have Immortal, you have Fortune. I honestly forget who was heel and who was face at the time- if someone has the spreadsheet that keeps track of those things in TNA/IW on hand, feel free to throw that in there. EV2 collapsed in under itself like it should have- what do you know, when you put together a bunch of guys who never drew, they aren't going to draw. Fortune's been effectively dead for months, especially since the start of the BFG series- you simply don't see people talking about Fortune anymore, rather, what the individual members are doing. Immortal exists for the sole purpose now of ensuring the Eric Bischoff character has goons he can call on. (This could mean they go on for quite a while, as if there's one thing I don't expect TNA/IW to do under any circumstances, it's write out the Eric Bischoff character while he's still working as executive producer.) Beyond showing up to deliver beatings when the Bischoff character calls for it, there's no Immortal.
We're entering the singles age of TNA/IW. People (speaking in gross generalities, not individual specifics) want flamboyant personalities in their professional wrestlers today, not disciplined competitors working towards a common goal. Save that for ROH, which still sells wrestling storylines. The dominant stable isn't over- there's going to come another powerful group of wrestlers that will put asses in seats. But it's going to be a lot less predominant in professional wrestling than it used to be.
4chans been a hollow shell since Flair went to immortal. They only keep them loosely associated so they can time the split up, but if they just totally ignored 4chan and made the story strictly about Beer Money, it'd be consistent with TNA continuity of storylines.
They could use 4chan just to hold Roode over while James Storm recovers from his injury (Assuming it's a legit report)
AJ and Beer Money are better off as singles than 4chan is as a group, so it makes sense to break it, Kaz is going to suffer again, but I think he's used to being an afterthought by this point in his career.
Their choice to hot potato the title around twice on free TV over BFG can only be worth it, if they can make this split payoff, which I think the Beer Money portion may be ruined by injury, but salvaging that is going to require some stalling that still keeps the feud hot until Storm is fit to give a good match.
They could use 4chan just to hold Roode over while James Storm recovers from his injury (Assuming it's a legit report)
AJ and Beer Money are better off as singles than 4chan is as a group, so it makes sense to break it, Kaz is going to suffer again, but I think he's used to being an afterthought by this point in his career.
Their choice to hot potato the title around twice on free TV over BFG can only be worth it, if they can make this split payoff, which I think the Beer Money portion may be ruined by injury, but salvaging that is going to require some stalling that still keeps the feud hot until Storm is fit to give a good match.
NotoriousWWE
Pre-Show Stalwart
Ok, I'm not a big TNA fan or a TNA fan at all but I will say this. The Fourtune faction was a brilliant concept when times were bad in TNA. I loved the mixture of main event talent, AJ Styles, Robert Roode, James Storm, Christopher Daniels and Kazarian (Wasn't Mr Anderson in it once). Anyway I feel they should have done a storyline where one of them feels they were the leader of the faction, leading to a massive implosion within the group.
Fortune ran it's course and did what it needed to do for a group. It poised itself as a threat to a faction to the heel group of Immortal and prevented them from taking complete control of the show by constantly being in the title picture for the titles.
Daniels was a nice add on to the group. He helped as the 5th man for their hardcore match against the Immortal goons and got himself back on T.V. Which is never a bad thing. Daniels is now getting ppv matches agains A.J Styles for the 10th time in the past years but it is still better booking than what TNA has done in the past year.
Also having Robert Roode turn heel and betray Storm for the world title does also take away another member of Fortune and seperates the tag team aspect of Fortune but that still doesn't mean Fortune is over. You still have Styles, Kaz, and Storm on the front and that leaves plenty of room to grow and regroup if Impact feels they still need the stable to help elevate heels or get new faces over.
Daniels was a nice add on to the group. He helped as the 5th man for their hardcore match against the Immortal goons and got himself back on T.V. Which is never a bad thing. Daniels is now getting ppv matches agains A.J Styles for the 10th time in the past years but it is still better booking than what TNA has done in the past year.
Also having Robert Roode turn heel and betray Storm for the world title does also take away another member of Fortune and seperates the tag team aspect of Fortune but that still doesn't mean Fortune is over. You still have Styles, Kaz, and Storm on the front and that leaves plenty of room to grow and regroup if Impact feels they still need the stable to help elevate heels or get new faces over.
Ohhh, Fortune I thought you were talking about Samoa Joe or as he is commonly called FourChin...but that's another story all together.
Hopefully they have Roode Feud (I can rhyme, neat) with him vs fortune continue, with him winning all matches until Storm comes back, then have a big feud with the two for a few months, make Roode's title run matter, like really matter, not throw it away like TNA is accustomed to doing.
Don't just drop the belt to Hardy, keep the belt on Roode, stick with something for longer than a week.
Although I did just go see TNA on the 3rd and it was pretty awesome. Storm cut a promo and hit some chin music on Magnus, in that segment they have Magnus vouch for Roode and Storm call Roode a pussy for backing out of the tour. SO they are really pushing the heel Roode. So, yeah, Fortune is done. I was really hoping to see FourChin live though but Joe wasn't there. Oh well, still got a picture with Hardy and Rob Van Dam, both very small for wrestlers.
Hopefully they have Roode Feud (I can rhyme, neat) with him vs fortune continue, with him winning all matches until Storm comes back, then have a big feud with the two for a few months, make Roode's title run matter, like really matter, not throw it away like TNA is accustomed to doing.
Don't just drop the belt to Hardy, keep the belt on Roode, stick with something for longer than a week.
Although I did just go see TNA on the 3rd and it was pretty awesome. Storm cut a promo and hit some chin music on Magnus, in that segment they have Magnus vouch for Roode and Storm call Roode a pussy for backing out of the tour. SO they are really pushing the heel Roode. So, yeah, Fortune is done. I was really hoping to see FourChin live though but Joe wasn't there. Oh well, still got a picture with Hardy and Rob Van Dam, both very small for wrestlers.
EV2 was the Face group and sorry to burst ya bubble but all those guys did draw, just not in TNA, ECW in the last few years drew just as many live people then TNA gets now and sold more PPV's seats no doubt with far less budget.
Fortune and Immortal were both heel groups that flip flopped between siding and fighting against each other on any given segment if i remember right
nbieclkl91
Quote the Raven, nevermore.
Fortune should stay but with new people. Keep AJ Styles in it, add Samoa Joe and the MCMG.
AJ Stlyes-Leader
James Storm-"Muslce"
Alex Shelley-Tag Team w/ Chris Leben
Chris Leben- Tag Team w/ Alex Shelley
Sting-Manager
The question I want to know is if Roode is going to join Immortal. I mean ,maybe he will and then turn it into his own group with the following people.
Robert Roode-Leader
Samoa Joe-Muscle
Kaz-Tag w/Daniels
Christopher Daniels-Tag w/Kaz
Jeff Jarrett-Manager
Imagine the matches these 10 guys could have with each other? All TNA originals too.
AJ Stlyes-Leader
James Storm-"Muslce"
Alex Shelley-Tag Team w/ Chris Leben
Chris Leben- Tag Team w/ Alex Shelley
Sting-Manager
The question I want to know is if Roode is going to join Immortal. I mean ,maybe he will and then turn it into his own group with the following people.
Robert Roode-Leader
Samoa Joe-Muscle
Kaz-Tag w/Daniels
Christopher Daniels-Tag w/Kaz
Jeff Jarrett-Manager
Imagine the matches these 10 guys could have with each other? All TNA originals too.
You don't burst my bubble at all. I went to the Danbury shows and I can tell you personally how many people ECW was drawing. Not even close to enough to support a promotion attempting to televise on a national cable station without an in-kind investment.
ECW never sold that many PPV buys. Their major accomplishment was getting to the point where they could produce a PPV that a major distributor like InDemand would want to sell. TNA/IW isn't doing so hot in the PPV business- if they were, Eric Bischoff wouldn't hesitate to let the IWC know- but they show no signs of stopping their PPV's, whereas ECW's were always tentative until they failed.
Super Crazy
CABS ARE HEEEERREEE!!
I wouldn't say Fortune has run it's course but it's certainly not the fore front of TNA right now. They'll probably always be a group for years to come, however there's no need for a group storyline intertwining them all at the moment. I'm sure these guys will always have each other's backs for the forseeable future.
i use to feel the same way about kaz, he's impressed me as of late though. he is without a doubt comparable to the likes of randy orton and some of the bigger names in the business.
fortune is preh much done for. Christopher Daniels and AJ dislike each other (storyline wise), AJ is injured (im pretty sure that was the word i might be wrong but regardless him and Daniels wont be on the same page for a long time), storm and roode are gonna be feuding for the WHC, plus storm is injured. the only guy left is kaz and he is bound to start feuding with someone sooner then later. with that said i would have to say that fortune is inevitably finished.
