The Disney Channel is driving me insane

[Moon Knight]

You proved it for me.

No I didn't.

If there wasn't demand for the merchandise, there wouldn't be supply of it. You say you can't turn on your TV without seeing her.

Thats more than enough prove.

Did I say all of this was positive? No, in fact a lot of it is media leeches looking for a story. And as long as their is a demand for the stuff it will stay there, but that doesnt mean the demand didn't drop.

No, it doesn't have credibility, because the only photos that WERE released were questionable to begin with whether they were her or not, and weren't racy.

Then why are they afraid? Why try to block it? And they were her, and what is racy to you anyway?

Furthermore, let's pretend she DID take those photos. Mind you, there's no credibility to it, but for argument's sake, let's say she did. She took those pictures on HER phone, and did not distribute them to anyone. They were for her personal use, and unlike the Myspace pictures, weren't put in public place. So, even if she did, she never made public naked pictures of herself, once again quashing your argument. In that case, Miley is a victim.

Why have naked pictures of yourself on your phone? And it isn't "quashing" my argument because I stand by she never should have taken them in the first place.

And the people closest to the situation have said she was 18. And the Drake Bell rumor was proven false, as Drake himself said he never received those photos. MOST of the credible evidence now say that they were sent to Zac Effron.

Those were 2 different sets, one to Zac and one to Drake. I know he said he never got them, but does that mean he wasn't lying to protect a friend? If I was in his place I'd deny it. And you still haven't proven she was 18.

Furthermore, I find it highly disturbing that both of us know so much about this matter. But, I digress.

I don't find it disturbing at all. I am just a strange person.

It's easy to see all the time. There are a TON of pictures like that. Just do a Photobucket search, and you can find them easily enough. Hell, even when I was that age, I got all sorts of pictures of girls dressed like that.

That still doesn't prove it's common, just that some do it. You can't prove that it is common, I could show you just as many pics of guys setting things on fire, but it's not common, but it happens. Still not right.

Then I never flamebaited you.

I don't really care. This is the bar room so I am not going to do anything. How much longer are you going to keep this up?

 

[Moon Knight]

You're telling me you can't prevent a 10 year old child from getting a camera, logging on to the Internet, and posting pictures of her in various states of undress?

Oh, I beg to differ.

The be ready to be wrong. What are you going to do if a friend gives the camera? What about a friends house?

 

[Slyfox696]

Then why are they afraid? Why try to block it? And they were her, and what is racy to you anyway?

The legitimacy of those photos is highly questionable.

And why would they block pictures taken from personal property that are supposed to be private to a 15 year old child? Did you really ask that?

Why have naked pictures of yourself on your phone? And it isn't "quashing" my argument because I stand by she never should have taken them in the first place.

Why not have them? It's not like taking naked pictures of yourself is uncommon, for anyone of any age. As for why the phone? Well, because the phone is HER personal property, and since they aren't meant for anyone else, there's a reasonable expectation of privacy to them.

Those were 2 different sets, one to Zac and one to Drake. I know he said he never got them, but does that mean he wasn't lying to protect a friend? If I was in his place I'd deny it. And you still haven't proven she was 18.

I haven't proven it?

They were sent to Zac Effron, a guy who became her boyfriend after her 18th birthday, and her publicist, her parents, and Vanessa herself said she was 18.

I'm not sure what else you could possibly want as proof.

I don't find it disturbing at all. I am just a strange person.

Let's just say it's because we're both so intelligent and information hungry. And then, we'll blame it on our women who are celeb stalkers.

At least, that's what I'm going to do.

That still doesn't prove it's common, just that some do it. You can't prove that it is common, I could show you just as many pics of guys setting things on fire, but it's not common, but it happens. Still not right.

It DOES prove it's common. Maybe it doesn't prove that 75% of girls do it, but it does prove it's quite common, and certainly not uncommon.

How much longer are you going to keep this up?

That's what she said.


No later than 11:45. That's when my girlfriend gets off work.

 

[Slyfox696]

The be ready to be wrong. What are you going to do if a friend gives the camera? What about a friends house?

Are you telling me you wouldn't notice a camera lying around? And the friends house applies the same to you. And if you don't trust her friends parents to protect your daughter, then I suggest you don't let her go there.

 

[Shocky]

It must be really slow on the forums...Seriously, 150 plus post on Miley Cyrus and Disney, oh boy.

 

[Slyfox696]

It must be really slow on the forums...Seriously, 150 plus post on Miley Cyrus and Disney, oh boy.

This is the only forum that has people actively posting right now.

 

[Shocky]

I know, wrestling must really really suck if we've resorted to this. Can football get here soon enough.

 

[Slyfox696]

I know, wrestling must really really suck if we've resorted to this. Can football get here soon enough.

Hey hey hey now...we're also criticizing Triple H and Flair.

It can't be all bad. And I'm letting everyone know on another forum how I was in Disco's last column. They like to bash the Disco One over there, so I enjoy riling up arguments over it.

 

[Shocky]

Bashing The Lame and a Flair for the Old is always fun, and way too easy.

 

[Moon Knight]

It must be really slow on the forums...Seriously, 150 plus post on Miley Cyrus and Disney, oh boy.

I'm bored, sue me.

 

[Shocky]

I'm so bored I finally decided to venture to the Prison, I'm the new spawn

 

[Moon Knight]

The legitimacy of those photos is highly questionable.

And why would they block pictures taken from personal property that are supposed to be private to a 15 year old child? Did you really ask that?

If they are not legit why worry? If somebody is making fake pictures of her why get worried and try to block them? It's like the picture of a Miley look a like, it was naked and nobody believed it because it was fake, so why be afraid of fake pictures?

Why not have them? It's not like taking naked pictures of yourself is uncommon, for anyone of any age. As for why the phone? Well, because the phone is HER personal property, and since they aren't meant for anyone else, there's a reasonable expectation of privacy to them.

It is uncommon, the majority of girls don't do that because they have enough self respect and common sense not to. And she knows the risks, she knows that there are people looking break her down, she should have known better.

I haven't proven it?

They were sent to Zac Effron, a guy who became her boyfriend after her 18th birthday, and her publicist, her parents, and Vanessa herself said she was 18.

I'm not sure what else you could possibly want as proof.

Drake Bell.....And thats your words, I have still seen her listed on them as 16-17.

Let's just say it's because we're both so intelligent and information hungry. And then, we'll blame it on our women who are celeb stalkers.

At least, that's what I'm going to do.

I am single...So I am just going with I am intelligent and information and if you don't like it screw you.

It DOES prove it's common. Maybe it doesn't prove that 75% of girls do it, but it does prove it's quite common, and certainly not uncommon.

Not really, it shows some do it, but it doesn't show the majority do it. Which I stand by that most girls have more respect for themselves and enough maturity and intelligence not to do it.

That's what she said.


No later than 11:45. That's when my girlfriend gets off work.

I have school work, so I should have stopped and focused on that hours ago. Right now you are a distraction.

 

[Slyfox696]

If they are not legit why worry? If somebody is making fake pictures of her why get worried and try to block them? It's like the picture of a Miley look a like, it was naked and nobody believed it because it was fake, so why be afraid of fake pictures?

Because if people believe it's real then it could impact her life and her career, even if it is fake.

It is uncommon, the majority of girls don't do that because they have enough self respect and common sense not to. And she knows the risks, she knows that there are people looking break her down, she should have known better.

It's not uncommon at all. Just about everyone I know has taken naked pictures of themselves or their genitalia at some point. And I live right smack dab in the Bible belt. Well, not smack dab, but it seems like it.

Drake Bell

And he said he never got nude pictures of her.

.....And thats your words, I have still seen her listed on them as 16-17.

I've never seen them listed as such.

I am single...So I am just going with I am intelligent and information and if you don't like it screw you.

Flame-baiting.

I'm sticking with my woman argument.

I have school work, so I should have stopped and focused on that hours ago. Right now you are a distraction.

It's just as well. We're just saying the same things now. But, if you reply, you know I will too.

It's a personal flaw I suppose.

 

[Moon Knight]

Because if people believe it's real then it could impact her life and her career, even if it is fake.

Didn't you just say it didn't hurt her?

It's not uncommon at all. Just about everyone I know has taken naked pictures of themselves or their genitalia at some point. And I live right smack dab in the Bible belt. Well, not smack dab, but it seems like it.

Define everybody.

And he said he never got nude pictures of her.

I've never seen them listed as such.

How do you know he didn't lie to protect her? I know I would have.

Flame-baiting.

I'm sticking with my woman argument.

Yep. And I am sticking with my stance...because it's either that or be forced to admit I watch Hannah Montana....damn it....

It's just as well. We're just saying the same things now. But, if you reply, you know I will too.

It's a personal flaw I suppose.

Been like that for 4 pages or so. I guess we have to reply....Unless Shocky locks the thread...*wink* *wink*

 

[Slyfox696]

Didn't you just say it didn't hurt her?

I said that having nude photos, real or fake, COULD hurt her, and more than just her career.

Define everybody.

Just about everyone I know. Everyone means 100%, just about means reasonably close to, so reasonably close to 100% of the people I know have.

How do you know he didn't lie to protect her? I know I would have.

That's merely speculation. FACT says that he said he never got them.

Yep. And I am sticking with my stance...because it's either that or be forced to admit I watch Hannah Montana....damn it....

Why do they call it Hannah Montana? Doesn't she go by her real name on the show? Like, I don't understand what it's about.

Been like that for 4 pages or so. I guess we have to reply....Unless Shocky locks the thread...*wink* *wink*

That wouldn't stop me. I'd still PM you.

 

[Moon Knight]

I said that having nude photos, real or fake, COULD hurt her, and more than just her career.

You said above it didn't. And if it does wouldn't that mean it is wrong to take them?

Just about everyone I know. Everyone means 100%, just about means reasonably close to, so reasonably close to 100% of the people I know have.

Numbers, 5 or 7 people. I also would never say something is common because my buddies do it.

That's merely speculation. FACT says that he said he never got them.

That still doesn't mean he didn't lie about it.

Why do they call it Hannah Montana? Doesn't she go by her real name on the show? Like, I don't understand what it's about.

Secret identity so she could be a rock star and live a normal life.

That wouldn't stop me. I'd still PM you.

Prove it, PM me.

 

[Slyfox696]

You said above it didn't. And if it does wouldn't that mean it is wrong to take them?

I'm saying it hasn't been proven to. But, it COULD, and like I said, not just her career.

And you're assuming they even exist.

Numbers, 5 or 7 people. I also would never say something is common because my buddies do it.

Are you honestly telling me that it is uncommon for people to take naked pictures of themselves for their own private use? Even if they delete them immediately.

That still doesn't mean he didn't lie about it.

But it does mean that he said he never got them. And unless you can prove he's a liar, then I suppose that's all we have.

Secret identity so she could be a rock star and live a normal life.

Ahh, gotcha. So, on the show, she has a secret identity, but in real life, she doesn't?

Prove it, PM me.

Not as long as Shocky doesn't close the thread.

But, I'm getting ready to go anyways. My g/f should be here in a minute or two.

 

[Moon Knight]

I'm saying it hasn't been proven to. But, it COULD, and like I said, not just her career.

And you're assuming they even exist.

The shows ratings have seen an impact.

Are you honestly telling me that it is uncommon for people to take naked pictures of themselves for their own private use? Even if they delete them immediately.

At her age or any age yes. You can't prove they are common, doing so would require polling the majority of people.

But it does mean that he said he never got them. And unless you can prove he's a liar, then I suppose that's all we have.

It's still a chance he is, but nobody is trying to prove it and it has since been dropped.

Ahh, gotcha. So, on the show, she has a secret identity, but in real life, she doesn't?

Yep.

Not as long as Shocky doesn't close the thread.

But, I'm getting ready to go anyways. My g/f should be here in a minute or two.

I had a smartass remark, but I won't say it.

 

[justinsayne]

This is never going to end is it?

 

[Moon Knight]

This is never going to end is it?

Of course it will, when me and sly get bored of replying to it. It would also help if you didn't bump it.

 

[justinsayne]

Of course it will, when me and sly get bored of replying to it. It would also help if you didn't bump it.

Bump it?!, it was at the top of the page after I clicked new post, I didn't bump shit

 

[Moon Knight]

Bump it?!, it was at the top of the page after I clicked new post, I didn't bump shit

Oh lighten up. You know what I mean.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Hannah Montana could pose for these mags and I'd still let my daughter watch her. Because my daughers knowledge of it would be zero.

 

[Rusty]

 

[Moon Knight]

Hannah Montana could pose for these mags and I'd still let my daughter watch her. Because my daughers knowledge of it would be zero.

What if your daughter did have knowledge of it?