The Championship Scramble Match

[CM Steel]

The Championship Scramble Match is a match that was recycled from another match from Wrestlemania 16 in 2000. When guys fought over the defunct WWF/E Hardcore title in the then "Time Limit Title" match. But as of 2008 during the "Mike Adamle era". The gimmick match was brought back as a "Mike Adamle original". In where there were 3 Championship Scramble Matches featuring the 3 top world titles at the time. Now that the WHC & ECW championships are not going to be a factor anymore. Should the WWE bring back this match? And if they do when and on what format?

 

[Aquaman6686]

I love the Scramble Match, always have. For some reason they even removed it in WWE2K14, I miss the hell out of it. I think they should make it an annual match at Night of Champions, but have a different title defended in the match each year.

 

[Blade222]

The difference between the Hardcore Battle Royal and the Scramble match is that every winner in the Hardcore Battle Royal was recognized as champion.

I don't think it's a good match for the Unified title, but I'd love to see a Scramble for the IC or US championship featuring mid-carders.

 

[Dagger Dias]

It's strange how opinions change over time around here. Mine has not. I hated those matches then and still do now. Back in 2008 when they did the PPV event with the Championship Scramble matches I recall reading countless comments on how stupid and complicated the idea was. I am shocked that anyone can look back on those matches and want to see more of them. They should never do another Championship Scramble. The booking is far too complicated and the end result is an idiotic match type that we really do not need. Not for the world titles, not for the midcard titles, not even for title contendership status. I give credit for WWE for trying something different but the fact that after 5 years we never saw another one of these shows that they made the right decision.

 

[MCMG]

I actually quite liked the Championship Scramble match. Most notably the one where Brian Kendrick was at one point the WWE champion. It is a match that can work if the have good enough wrestlers and for a minor PPV, it is an easy way to book 5 people. Something like Orton, Cena, Bryan, Punk, Sheamus. No matter who is in the ring we are guaranteed some great action. There is an element of unpredictability and I wouldn't mind seeing it.

Even for a mid-card belt: find 5 able wrestlers and it is very simple. Give this novelty to a May or October PPV and people might care a little more.

 

[jameyt2003]

I like the Championship scramble idea. This isn't a match that has to be on a ppv or even for a world heavyweight title, but it does have its place. I agree that a match like this doesn't have to be over used, but it should still be used from time to time if enough people are interested. The main flaw I find in these bouts is the possibility of making a guy who is super over at the time look foolish by getting pinned too often.

 

[The_Don]

I liked this match too, I must admit I'm quite surprised WWE hasn't used it in years. I believe the Scramble is a pain in the butt to book it. It's a fast paced match with selective spots and time conditioned to it. I believe the young audience don't understand the match.

 

[therockiswwf]

I believe the young audience don't understand the match.

Uh what? It is incredibly easy to follow.

1. 20 minute time limit
2. 5 minute intervals
3. Last pinfall/submission wins

I am not a big fan of the match due to it being kind of meaningless until the last guy enters. It is not really that good of a gimmick match. It basically is a hardcore title match with a time limit and I never liked that title's gimmick anyways (except for when Crash first did it, I found that amusing).

I would prefer an elimination match over a scramble or a fatal five way instead.

 

[Booker t 5x]

I enjoyed the scramble a lot. It was different and entertaining. I think with the mid card so full, they could have great scramble matches for the IC belt. Throw Big E in there with miz kofi, truth, tensai, sandow, whoever.

 

[Kris Benwa]

I didnt like it all. Mostly because it should in theory play out like how I would play it in the games. Get a pinfall as quickly as possible and then break up all the other ones. It doesn't seem realistic that the title would change hands 5 or 6 times with smart guys in the match. Idk i just didn't really like it.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

I give credit for WWE for trying something different but the fact that after 5 years we never saw another one of these shows that they made the right decision.

I think there was one at SummerSlam or some other summer PPV afterwards for the ECW title. I distinctly remember Tommy Dreamer in it, but don't remember if he won.

I guess it says a lot that I don't remember the match at all, but my point is that it wasn't a one-off thing.

 

[Slash-LN]

I think there was one at SummerSlam or some other summer PPV afterwards for the ECW title. I distinctly remember Tommy Dreamer in it, but don't remember if he won.

I guess it says a lot that I don't remember the match at all, but my point is that it wasn't a one-off thing.

It was in 2009 at The Bash. Literally everyone in the match scored a pinfall except Christian and he also took the final pin from Dreamer.

I don't really care for the match style either. It's an okay way to use multiple people I guess but we already have Money in the Bank and Survivor Series for that.

Not to mention as someone else said they can just use elimination matches. Those are just as exciting in my opinion.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

It was in 2009 at The Bash. Literally everyone in the match scored a pinfall except Christian and he also took the final pin from Dreamer.

I don't really care for the match style either. It's an okay way to use multiple people I guess but we already have Money in the Bank and Survivor Series for that.

Not to mention as someone else said they can just use elimination matches. Those are just as exciting in my opinion.

I'm a sucker for gauntlet matches, and I like this one especially because it doesn't require EVERYONE to job out like in an elimination match.

But most importantly, I like gauntlets when they use them for shocking entrants.

If I was going to book a surprise return, BEST way to do it is in a Scramble match on Raw.

Batista for example. Make a Scramble match for the final spot in the Elimination Chamber. After all four are in, bam, out comes Batista.

The match can have value, but I agree it hasn't been used like it should have been. The Jericho/Punk fiasco was a complete joke. Punk didn't even wrestle to lose his title and Jericho didn't even wrestle to win it. That was a complete mockery of pro wrestling right there.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

A rundown of the match:

WWE features a match called the Championship Scramble in which none of the wrestlers are eliminated. Two wrestlers start the match and every five minutes another wrestler enters until all five participants are present. After the last wrestler enters, there is a predetermined time limit. Each time a wrestler scores a pinfall or submission, he becomes the interim or unofficial champion, and such reigns aren't recorded as official reigns. The winner is the wrestler who scores the last pinfall or submission before the time limit expires.

Sorry, but that's just too much for one match. I give WWE credit for taking a chance, and trying something new, but the end result was a massive failure. The Championship Scramble was a jumbled mess of a match, and WWE has more than enough big name gimmick matches, so there's no point in reintroducing the Scramble match.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

A rundown of the match:

WWE features a match called the Championship Scramble in which none of the wrestlers are eliminated. Two wrestlers start the match and every five minutes another wrestler enters until all five participants are present. After the last wrestler enters, there is a predetermined time limit. Each time a wrestler scores a pinfall or submission, he becomes the interim or unofficial champion, and such reigns aren't recorded as official reigns. The winner is the wrestler who scores the last pinfall or submission before the time limit expires.

Sorry, but that's just too much for one match. I give WWE credit for taking a chance, and trying something new, but the end result was a massive failure. The Championship Scramble was a jumbled mess of a match, and WWE has more than enough big name gimmick matches, so there's no point in reintroducing the Scramble match.

You could write a really long explanation about the Rumble as well. Do you think WWE should get rid of that match too? Scrambles are basically Rumbles with pinfalls. I don't see how it's too complicated.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

You could write a really long explanation about the Rumble as well. Do you think WWE should get rid of that match too? Scrambles are basically Rumbles with pinfalls. I don't see how it's too complicated.

You can't overcomplicate something that's not complicated. This is the Rumble in a nutshell: you're eliminated, when someone tosses you over the top rope, and both feet hit the floor. Last man standing wins. That's it. Of course WWE shouldn't get rid of the Rumble. It's one of WWE's more popular and well known gimmick matches, and it's been around for twenty-five years. You can't compare the Royal Rumble with a failed experiment. That doesn't work.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

You can't overcomplicate something that's not complicated. This is the Rumble in a nutshell: you're eliminated, when someone tosses you over the top rope, and both feet hit the floor. Last man standing wins. That's it. Of course WWE shouldn't get rid of the Rumble. It's one of WWE's more popular and well known gimmick matches, and it's been around for twenty-five years. You can't compare the Royal Rumble with a failed experiment. That doesn't work.

You posted that really long paragraph about the Scramble to point out that it was too complicated and then you summarize the Rumble in a sentence? Oh, come on.

Compare:

WWE features a match called the Championship Scramble in which none of the wrestlers are eliminated. Two wrestlers start the match and every five minutes another wrestler enters until all five participants are present. After the last wrestler enters, there is a predetermined time limit. Each time a wrestler scores a pinfall or submission, he becomes the interim or unofficial champion, and such reigns aren't recorded as official reigns. The winner is the wrestler who scores the last pinfall or submission before the time limit expires.

Using the same sentence structure:

WWE features a match called the Royal Rumble in which wrestlers are eliminated when they are tossed over the top rope and both feet touch the outside floor. Two wrestlers start the match and every 90 seconds (time may be variable), another wrestler enters until all 30 participants have entered the ring. The winner is the wrestler who is the last man standing after the rest have been eliminated.

It's the same thing. And that doesn't even account for the realistic explanation about how you can still leave the ring through the bottom rope, how you can still eliminate competitors after being eliminated yourself, and how you can still win the Rumble even if you were eliminated like Austin did. The Rumble is crazy.

Championship Scramble could still work. Like I said, it's basically a mini-Rumble except we get pins instead of over the top eliminations. I think it could definitely work for #1 Contender's matches. It's better than Beat the Clock.

 

[#tamale]

The only moment that the Championship Scramble match gave us was Chris Jericho winning the title after 6 years of not being on top. The wrestlers looked lost during the matches and were not sure how to compete in them. They were shit matches that had shit psychology. Obviously WWE agrees because they have been scrapped as a gimmick match.

You posted that really long paragraph about the Scramble to point out that it was too complicated and then you summarize the Rumble in a sentence? Oh, come on.

Compare:



Using the same sentence structure:



It's the same thing. And that doesn't even account for the realistic explanation about how you can still leave the ring through the bottom rope, how you can still eliminate competitors after being eliminated yourself, and how you can still win the Rumble even if you were eliminated like Austin did. The Rumble is crazy.

Championship Scramble could still work. Like I said, it's basically a mini-Rumble except we get pins instead of over the top eliminations. I think it could definitely work for #1 Contender's matches. It's better than Beat the Clock.

Beat the clock sucks as well. Comparing the Rumble to the Scramble...

 

[Mitch Henessey]

You posted that really long paragraph about the Scramble to point out that it was too complicated and then you summarize the Rumble in a sentence? Oh, come on.

You're unnecessarily adding layers to try and overcomplicate the Rumble to prove it's on the same level of screwiness as Championship Scramble. The Rumble is just a basic battle royal, with the winner receiving a prize at the end. There are no interim champions during the match, and there's no rule about an eliminated wrestler returning to have a second shot at winning the match.

And five sentences isn't a "really long paragraph." That's just a basic summary of the match.

WWE features a match called the Championship Scramble in which none of the wrestlers are eliminated. Two wrestlers start the match and every five minutes another wrestler enters until all five participants are present. After the last wrestler enters, there is a predetermined time limit. Each time a wrestler scores a pinfall or submission, he becomes the interim or unofficial champion, and such reigns aren't recorded as official reigns. The winner is the wrestler who scores the last pinfall or submission before the time limit expires.

WWE features a match called the Royal Rumble in which wrestlers are eliminated when they are tossed over the top rope and both feet touch the outside floor. Two wrestlers start the match and every 90 seconds (time may be variable), another wrestler enters until all 30 participants have entered the ring. The winner is the wrestler who is the last man standing after the rest have been eliminated.

You're intentionally overlooking a match, that features interim champions, and "unofficial" title reigns. The Rumble? Thirty men enter, the last one standing wins.

It's the same thing. And that doesn't even account for the realistic explanation about how you can still leave the ring through the bottom rope, how you can still eliminate competitors after being eliminated yourself, and how you can still win the Rumble even if you were eliminated like Austin did. The Rumble is crazy.

Uh, no. It's not. As I said before, if you're tossed over the top rope, you're eliminated. Obviously, if both feet don't hit the ground, or if said wrestler doesn't go over the top rope for an elimination, they're still eligible to win. The basic rules for the Rumble are self-explanatory. You're still trying to overcomplicate a simple battle royal style match.

Championship Scramble could still work. Like I said, it's basically a mini-Rumble except we get pins instead of over the top eliminations.

And you forgot to add interim world champions.

I think it could definitely work for #1 Contender's matches.

So you would devalue the Championship Scramble match by turning it into another random #1 contender's match? An interim #1 contender? Think about that for a second. A temporary #1 contender. Yeah.

It's better than Beat the Clock.

Not really. Unlike the Scramble match, Beat The Clock features a simpler concept: the wrestler with the fastest time is the winner. That's it. Plus, Beat The Clock challenges are one on one matches, you can't compare it to a single match that features various competitors.

 

[CyberPunk]

Scramble matches are convoluted and really difficult to book. So 5 wrestlers come in one by one, start pinning each other and become interim champion(but no one's eliminated) and the last one to gain pinfall or submission is the champion? That also means a wrestler who has already been pinned can still win the match. No, thank you.

 

[NegativeFeedback]

You're unnecessarily adding layers to try and overcomplicate the Rumble to prove it's on the same level of screwiness as Championship Scramble. The Rumble is just a basic battle royal, with the winner receiving a prize at the end. There are no interim champions during the match, and there's no rule about an eliminated wrestler returning to have a second shot at winning the match.

I'm not "adding layers", I'm using the same sentence structure you posted for the Scramble. And the one you posted unnecessary overexplanations like "WWE features a match called the, two wrestlers start the match, every five minutes one enters, and a 17-word sentence at the end explaining what a winner is, instead of just saying the last interim champ wins by default. If we're gonna do that with the Scramble, you can't balk at me doing the same with the Rumble.

You're intentionally overlooking a match, that features interim champions, and "unofficial" title reigns. The Rumble? Thirty men enter, the last one standing wins.

It's hardly any different than a guy who has the most pinfalls in an Iron Man match is the interim winner. The only difference is that instead of MOST pins, we're talking about the LAST pin. It's hardly that complicated. If anything it's easier than Iron Man and 2/3 falls matches because you don't even have to keep count.

Uh, no. It's not. As I said before, if you're tossed over the top rope, you're eliminated. Obviously, if both feet don't hit the ground, or if said wrestler doesn't go over the top rope for an elimination, they're still eligible to win. The basic rules for the Rumble are self-explanatory. You're still trying to overcomplicate a simple battle royal style match.

It's not a simple battle royal style match when people are entering at random intervals, and some of them can still win despite being eliminated according to the proper rules (again, like Austin, and Rock too).

So you would devalue the Championship Scramble match by turning it into another random #1 contender's match? An interim #1 contender? Think about that for a second. A temporary #1 contender. Yeah.

You don't need to call anyone an interim anything. They just have the advantage because they're closest to winning. Again, same goes for someone who is ahead in an Iron Man match or someone who is in the lead in a Beat the Clock challenge. You're the one who's over-complicating something that has been a staple in wrestling for years.

Not really. Unlike the Scramble match, Beat The Clock features a simpler concept: the wrestler with the fastest time is the winner. That's it. Plus, Beat The Clock challenges are one on one matches, you can't compare it to a single match that features various competitors.

"A 15-minute match where 5 guys wrestle and the last guy who gets the pin wins." I don't see how that's any more complicated than "A series of matches where the wrestler with the fastest time (to beat his opponent) wins."

You're over-complicating the Scramble, just as much as you're over-simplifying the Rumble and Beat the Clock.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

I'm not "adding layers", I'm using the same sentence structure you posted for the Scramble. And the one you posted unnecessary overexplanations like "WWE features a match called the, two wrestlers start the match, every five minutes one enters, and a 17-word sentence at the end explaining what a winner is, instead of just saying the last interim champ wins by default. If we're gonna do that with the Scramble, you can't balk at me doing the same with the Rumble.

I'm not going to explain the Rumble again. If you can't comprehend the rules of a basic battle royal match, then that's your problem. And nothing you said above explains or justifies your complaint of a "really long paragraph." The paragraph was a simple layout of the match. Nothing was unnecessary.

It's hardly any different than a guy who has the most pinfalls in an Iron Man match is the interim winner. The only difference is that instead of MOST pins, we're talking about the LAST pin. It's hardly that complicated. If anything it's easier than Iron Man and 2/3 falls matches because you don't even have to keep count.

And again, you're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. How is it easier than Iron Man? Two guys go back and forth, who ever has the most pinfall or submission victories wins. In the event of a tie, we go to sudden death. It's apples to oranges, because Iron Man matches and the convoluted Scramble match are two completely different concepts (with various wrestles competing at once being the obvious difference ).

It's not a simple battle royal style match when people are entering at random intervals, and some of them can still win despite being eliminated according to the proper rules (again, like Austin, and Rock too).

Random? One after two, after three, after four and so on is random? That's called chronological order, there's nothing random about it. And what proper rules are you talking about? When Rey Mysterio eliminated Randy Orton in 2006 after he went over the top rope, and both of his feet hit the floor, did Orton come back and eliminate Rey to earn the WHC shot at Wrestlemania 22?

You don't need to call anyone an interim anything. They just have the advantage because they're closest to winning. Again, same goes for someone who is ahead in an Iron Man match or someone who is in the lead in a Beat the Clock challenge. You're the one who's over-complicating something that has been a staple in wrestling for years.

So now you're trying to change the rules of the match?

And it's not the same as an Iron Man match. The wrestler holding the most current pinfalls is leading the score in the match, just like a football game, or a basketball game. If the opponent makes a comeback they regain the lead. In the event of a tie, sudden death (or overtime in basketball and football) is used to determine a winner. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

In the early stages of the Iron Man match from Bragging Rights 2009, John Cena was leading the WWE Champion (Orton) 1-0. Did WWE recognize John Cena as the interim WWE Champion? No. Apples to oranges, Feedback. You can't twist and tweak the set rules of the Scramble match to accommodate your argument.

"A 15-minute match where 5 guys wrestle and the last guy who gets the pin wins." I don't see how that's any more complicated than "A series of matches where the wrestler with the fastest time (to beat his opponent) wins."

You're over-complicating the Scramble, just as much as you're over-simplifying the Rumble and Beat the Clock.

Nope. I just explained the simple rules of the Rumble match, that's it. And this is coming from the guy, who's trying to change the set rules of the Scramble match.

 

[CM Steel]

The championship scramble is a match that seriously needs to be brought back for the simple fact that it's something different and new. And since there's now only one world title now. Why not have a scramble match for the Diva's championship? It would be too many superstars in one match to have a scramble for the WWE tag team title's. But my advice for the WWE would be. Don't let this match just disappear like other matches from the past. It's a waste of a good concept.