"The Cerebral Assasin" Possibly returning to his old ways?

[It's...Baylariat!]

After last week's match... Cena and Orton seem to have a common ground now. And could actually work as a group or possibly even help each other out on occasions. I wouldn't mind seeing them in a group and seeing them have each other's back for the time being.

The same could be said for HHH and Batista. Why not pair the former Evolution members and have them work as a team to take out their competition in Orton and try to secure their spot in the WWE title hunt.

Would you like to see either of these teams? None of them? Which one appeals to you more?

 

[LUFC HBK]

Orton and Cena are a team I would really like to see. They could work really well together and hey you never know Cena might actually be able to get some fans back. They could work together and help each other as you said without being an out and out team. They could be the Austin and HHH of the 'PG era.' Then of course you have the possibility of a year long build up and self destruction leading to a WWE Championship match at WM 27. Just an idea I know we have seen it before but not at 'Mania.

As for HHH and Batista I'm not sure either of the guys need it. The way Batista has been put over recently, as a brutal monster heel I don't feel he needs HHH's help to get what he needs.

I tell you what though that would be a decent RAW main event. HHH and Batista vs Orton and Cena. Who would win? Sorry I'm going off topic.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

The thought of Trips going back to being the bad guy is both intriguing and slightly impractical in this moment. I mean last time we saw the guy he was embracing HBK and getting attacked by Sheamus. But hey WWE could work a smart angle the right way and turn HHH heel. Both Batista and 'H would definitely be a good muscled team and a force to not be ignored.

As for Cena & Orton, this team is appealing but still mildly unregistered. Yes a week ago they teamed up and they did look good together, but they are still two different people with no real foundation for companionship. Randy Orton, no matter how much the fans cheer him on (more than Cena if you noticed last Monday) he is not a designated Face yet. He is a Tweener and so far it is working wonders for him. He has gone back to his posing but that doesn't mean he has gone good-guy yet. He kind of reminds me of Stone Cold right now- he gets over with the fans a lot but hasn't done anything notable to recieve praise except be badass.

I could be in the wrong with Orton, but that's just the way I see it right now. I am sure WWE will put him over as Babyface if they continue to work the trend with Cena, but as of now he has the fan's attention as the guy that delivers.

 

[macksstream]

well we saw a team of orton and cena a couple of years ago (for those who havent seen the match look up orton and cena vs raw roster) and if they were a team, they'd have a team finisher. honestly, id like to see them watching each others backs. like kofi and cena were a bit back. just kinda watching each others backs. which could mean teaming from time to time. personally, id like to see them as a team.

 

[Davi323]

Even with Orton as a full blooded face, him and Cena have too much history to really make a pairing believable. Every week, we would be wondering if this was the night Orton turns on him, and goes back to being the viper. To be honest, I am still having a hard time accepting that Orton is getting cheered now. His character is despicable. The things he has done as a heel should guarantee his untrustworthiness as a face. As a heel, Orton is one of, if not the absolute best in the business. Why is he suddenly being accepted as a face? And why would Cena ever, ever trust him?

 

[BRING BACK SID!!!]

Ok just a thought....why is it when Trips has to change face or heel....a team needs to be involved. Im so tired of HHH always being in a team or a stable. I personalyliked him the best when he isnt with anyone an runs on his own. Like his return from his 1st injury when he won the Rumble. Its just when hes in a group he always becomes "*****fied" runs from everyone has way too many interferances and holds the belt for...ev...er...ad he become stale along with whoever hes with and the feudig with...it just gets flat way to quick. Hell people were calling for the head to be cut off of D-X...and thats bad. Just let him run by himself for a bit...and no I dont see him running heel anytime soon. WWE has waaaay to many powerful heels to add another huge name to that roster. As a face he can put over some up and comers and have it work to WWE's advantage it has before (i.e. Shamus, Orton, Umaga). So i say leave him alone and no more stables or teams for a while. When he becomes obsessed with he title and just ungodly brutal is when hes at his best.

 

[BRING BACK SID!!!]

Even with Orton as a full blooded face, him and Cena have too much history to really make a pairing believable. Every week, we would be wondering if this was the night Orton turns on him, and goes back to being the viper. To be honest, I am still having a hard time accepting that Orton is getting cheered now. His character is despicable. The things he has done as a heel should guarantee his untrustworthiness as a face. As a heel, Orton is one of, if not the absolute best in the business. Why is he suddenly being accepted as a face? And why would Cena ever, ever trust him?

Eh Orton always had a mixed reaction. He has been cheered for a while now but it was always underlying. I have liked Orton since his Evolution days. But i completely agree Orton and Cena have too much of a history and would make it way unblievable...

 

[Dropkicked]

Even with Orton as a full blooded face, him and Cena have too much history to really make a pairing believable. Every week, we would be wondering if this was the night Orton turns on him, and goes back to being the viper. To be honest, I am still having a hard time accepting that Orton is getting cheered now. His character is despicable. The things he has done as a heel should guarantee his untrustworthiness as a face. As a heel, Orton is one of, if not the absolute best in the business. Why is he suddenly being accepted as a face? And why would Cena ever, ever trust him?

I know this isn't an Orton thread but I had to reply to this guy.

Orton becoming a tweener / face wasn't decided by WWE. Orton is the hands down best wrestler / entertainer in WWE and the crowd eats it up. Its exactly like Austin - he was so good at being bad that the fans loved seeing what was going to happen next.

The Orton face turn is inevitable unless the E can stop it. That would mean Orton would have to pull a surprise turn on a major face or "good guy" WWE personnel (like a Jim Ross, Kelly Kelly, etc). Anyone else the crowd will still love it. There is no "face" too over that Orton could cleanly fued with to re-establish his heel.

On the Trips front: He needs to wrap it up. He has done it all. Fueded will all. Held it all. I know he has plenty of years left but he hasn't had the pull with fans in a long long time. Everyone knows his pull backstage and that when he goes for a title again its gonna be given - its just too predictable wi9th him anymore. I like Trips, always have, but time to make way for the new blood and for him to take over the reigns behind the scenes. If anything, I could see his attempt to dethrown Undertaker at Mania.

 

[GenMe]

A team between Cena and Orton wouldn't be a bad idea. Also I wouldn't mind to see them taking out some of the heel tag team, And go after the unified tag team title. I will really like to see them off the mainevent for a while. And if they some how capture the unified tag title that could bring back some prestige to the tag team titles and the tag team division.

As for HHH with Batista forming some king of a tag team that will also be a good Idea, But Honestly I'm tires of always seeing HHH in a stable or in a tag team. Triple H needs to turn heel and probably move him to SmackDown and give him a fresh new start. Bastista might be out again, So this could be Triple H's chance to make a heel turn and become SmackDowns top heel.

 

[The Wolf]

Tripe H as a heel well that is easy to do and u can make it unexpected so to speak. Have Batista attack Orton with Batista sayin to stay out of his business. Later on have him attack Cena. Have Orton then call out Batista and have Legacy attack him which will lead to Cena/Orton vs Batista/Legacy. Then the guess GM will tell Orton/Cena needs to find another partner which will be Triple H and at the end of the match have H attack Orton and when Cena takes ofence have him get laid out and there u go "The Cerebral Assasin" is back!

 

[Dropkicked]

A team between Cena and Orton wouldn't be a bad idea. Also I wouldn't mind to see them taking out some of the heel tag team, And go after the unified tag team title. I will really like to see them off the mainevent for a while. And if they some how capture the unified tag title that could bring back some prestige to the tag team titles and the tag team division.

As for HHH with Batista forming some king of a tag team that will also be a good Idea, But Honestly I'm tires of always seeing HHH in a stable or in a tag team. Triple H needs to turn heel and probably move him to SmackDown and give him a fresh new start. Bastista might be out again, So this could be Triple H's chance to make a heel turn and become SmackDowns top heel.

Wow. Seriously!? Where have you been the past 6 months or longer. See Jerishow and Showmiz. Both have turned out to be great tag teams and helped establish the titless a little more. Even before then with teams like the Colons and Miz/Morrison.

Personally Ive had it with the singles star mash-ups. If anything WWE needs established Tag Teams (Colt/Berretta) and not the thrown together ones. Personally Cena and Orton is a TERRIBLE idea. You dont waste two individual star talents like that. For a month I can deal but not long term. I hate Cena and theres nothing more I would like to see than him out of the title picture, but he is not a Tag Team wrestler (shit he's barely a decent singles wrestler).

A HHH/Batista group or stable could work. Not as a perm team but as a faction. Restart Evolution or a stable.

 

[Ferbian]

And if they some how capture the unified tag title that could bring back some prestige to the tag team titles and the tag team division.

You disappoint me GM.. I don't see John Cena and Randy Orton holding the titles as bringing back prestige to the tag team titles, because quite honestly the prestige is already there in a fair way, Jericho and Big Show gave those titles prestige, Miz and Big Show is maintaining it if you ask me.

Onto topic, I don't see either of them teaming up, and none of it really appeals to me, seeing as I've never seen either 4 of them as being proper tag team people, I see them as single stars, while I wouldn't mind seeing them tag team a match every now and then, it's not something I would ever tune in to watch on a regular basis.

But if I really had to choose anything, it would be Batista and Triple H, seeing as Randy and Cena has such a background of hatred that they have, I wouldn't see anything legit in those two teaming up unless the guest host or GM forced them to.
On the other hand, Batista and Triple H, while they had their feud some time ago, they could still easily get along, we've seen that before, going into Backlash last year, and in 2007 (at least I believe it was 2007, when Triple H won the WWE title from Randy Orton at No Mercy) and after the feud they had in 2005 when Batista defeated Triple H in the Hell in a Cell match they met backstage and shook hands and hugged) so I could see Triple H and Batista on a common ground even if they are of two different alignments as opposed to John Cena and Randy Orton which wouldn't sell onto me as legit in any kind of way.

 

[Marko Markovic]

No,no,no!!!!

Why do people always think that the teams should be made.Tag team division is in mess and I agree that they need to build stronger tag team division but why would they pair Orton and Cena?I do agree that they would be good pairing but with what reason?To beat ShoMiz?When Rated RKO was founded they wanted to stop DX,when Evolution was founded they wanted to build most strongest group with Flair(past),HHH(future) and Orton and Batista(future),when Legacy was founded Orton needed henchmans and it was good way to elevate future up and comers who were connected with their family wrestling past.

There is no reason at all to build such a team not to mention that all of them have very good singles careers and they dont need team feuds.HHH has just ended DX thing why would he need another team?Its just pointless to do it now

 

[Dropkicked]

You disappoint me GM.. I don't see John Cena and Randy Orton holding the titles as bringing back prestige to the tag team titles, because quite honestly the prestige is already there in a fair way, Jericho and Big Show gave those titles prestige, Miz and Big Show is maintaining it if you ask me.

Onto topic, I don't see either of them teaming up, and none of it really appeals to me, seeing as I've never seen either 4 of them as being proper tag team people, I see them as single stars, while I wouldn't mind seeing them tag team a match every now and then, it's not something I would ever tune in to watch on a regular basis.

But if I really had to choose anything, it would be Batista and Triple H, seeing as Randy and Cena has such a background of hatred that they have, I wouldn't see anything legit in those two teaming up unless the guest host or GM forced them to.
On the other hand, Batista and Triple H, while they had their feud some time ago, they could still easily get along, we've seen that before, going into Backlash last year, and in 2007 (at least I believe it was 2007, when Triple H won the WWE title from Randy Orton at No Mercy) and after the feud they had in 2005 when Batista defeated Triple H in the Hell in a Cell match they met backstage and shook hands and hugged) so I could see Triple H and Batista on a common ground even if they are of two different alignments as opposed to John Cena and Randy Orton which wouldn't sell onto me as legit in any kind of way.

Totally agree. Basically what I said but a little more pointed. I could see the 4 in a program for an quick PPV, but long term wise the only thing that works is HHH and Batista.

I feel an HHH turn is coming with the lack of strong heels on Raw. Again, I would like to see HHH step away even if for a little while and start the way for the new guys. This is still an option being as he hasn't had time away ion a while and has a new baby on the way I could see a Shaemus angle taking out HHH for a bit ala Noble but with a HHH return after a coupel months to take Shaemus out. Would give Shaemus a credible hit and help establish his dominance as a little more believable.

 

[Hardinhoff]

I don't see HHH/Boretista happening because of the Draft Lottery. There is a BIG possibility that Trips will be moving to Smackdown to add some star power.

With Swagger officially moving to SD and winning the WHC, it's obvious that the WWE is trying to make Swagger into a big time, monster heel. Why not move Trips to SD and have him "Sheamus" (as I like to call it) the newer heels on the SD roster. Lest we forget that Cryme Time just broke up and I'm sure that Shad will get some sort of heel push as well. Trips would be perfect (if he's willing to put his ego aside) to put on some decent matches with these guys.

I do also agree with the HHH/Taker at WM 27 idea which would point to another reason of Trips going to SD. With Taker taking some time off and probably only making sporadic appearances until WM27, this time could be used as a slow build for a match between the two.


As for Cena/Orton, I don't know if that will be a full time thing. As stated before, they have too much history and Orton is too despicable of a character. Its unavoidable that Orton will become the PG-era Austin and I think Vince will realize this and let him go off on his own.

 

[DL23]

No, simply not yet, maybe around Summerslam, I'd say whoever wins NXT (Dan Bryan) opt to face say Cena for the belt, now do this SLAP BANG in the middle of a HHH title chase, have HHH get annoyed that he's been ousted from the title match he'd worked hard for, maybe have him befriend Bryan, become a mentor to him, gain his trust, then come match time just as Bryan is about to win, have HHH come in a turn heel on him and Cena causing a DQ win for Bryan, on RAW have Bryan and Cena confront HHH, and play HHH of as being a coward that he doesn't want any trouble, have Bryan turn his back on HHH then a major a beatdown heel heat 101, then build Bryan towards a PPV match with HHH which HHH would win of course to go over as the mega heel and let Daniel drop down to mid card and feud with Miz over the Us belt.

 

[Klown_Karnage]

I could actually see Cena and Orton teaming up. They've had a long and storied feud, nicely vicious on both sides, and it occurs to me that the WWE could do the "mutual respect" and "common enemy" angle very easily. I mean, who knows you better than your worst enemy, right? Who would that common enemy be? Why none other than Batista!

However, here's the thing with teaming Batista with Triple H: have you been paying attention to Batista's targets since his heel turn? First, there's Mysterio, former best friend and major character on Smackdown. Then, there's John Cena, again a former friend and major character on Raw. In my opinion, the WWE seems to be running an angle in which Batista has a list of former friends he's going after. So, the logical progression would be that Batista is going to be gunning for Triple H next, not teaming with him.

Eh, I could be wrong though. The E is known for suddenly changing a story with no explanation. We'll just have to see.

 

[jmyers19]

Even though I like 3 out of the 4 mentioned (Well, I like Batista's character and well he and Cena put on a good match at WM, but not his biggest supporter) I think that HHH and Batista shouldn't be in the Title Hunt. But if I was to choose, I'd say HHH and Batista because I think its more realistic at this point seeing a heel HHH, now that DX is effectively done with and the feud with Sheamus I don't see lasting much longer, a heel turn should happen, especially since Cena is the number one merch guy and face of WWE, unless another guy really steps up and is the next face of WWE and outsells the guys merch, we wont see a heel Cena for a long time and Orton is in his tweener status, we need a top heel. So up until whenever Dave hangs up his wrestling boots and pink polo shirts, an Evolution reunion of sorts would be great because they kicked ass as a faction. Now as far as how it plays out, throw HHH into the Cena/Batista feud, like have Batista lose to Cena again, or have a triple threat where HHH has a sledgehammer, looks at Batista, say Cena's just been Batista bombed but is getting to his feet, instead of hitting Batista HHH hits Cena, drops the sledgehammer and lets Batista pin Cena, then they can work from there.

 

[johnnyblaze3:16]

personally i will go with batista/hhh, batista's heel turn was great and recently actually got me into him again. if hhh were to turn heel and run with batista i see a great feud between orton/cena and batista/hhh that would be great to see. a hhh heel is great especially with batista doin a great heel. and with orton goin face with cena it could really cement orton as the new generation's stone cold

 

[JoeyDice420]

I personally don't agree with orton and cena being a Team.I mean,yea they worked well with eachother each time they where in the ring together,if its againts 1 another,or a tag team.But i just don't see the sense in having some 1 that hated john cena become a friend of his..it doesn't make sense 2 me with ortons charector.Triple H and batista,now that sounds good on paper but would they stand a chance? Oh and i want every one to hear an interview with cornette that will change your mind on wrestlings state as of now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMuXUlZH0ZE

 

[cena4eva]

Trips has to turn heel you can't have the biggest stars on raw all heel. Cena is the champ so he'll be working with the main eventers..so you have two other stars who should work with the younger stars. Orton could work with Miz (if ShoMiz breaks) for the Us champion. It'll make Orton the face an he'll bring prestige back to the champ. Trips could be a monster hell now on raw, cuz batista is on smackdown.......and Trips could fud with youner face stars like Kofi n Christian. This feud could start becuae Sheamus thinks he is the new HHH and HHH could get angry at all the young stars and start a feud with them. So HHH could be a major heel who is scared of losing his place his throne............I would say thats cool

 

[Morpheus101]

I would very much like to see a HHH heel turn at some point. I would also see some sort of alignment with Batista, kind of like the "Power Trip" days when it was HHH & Austin. Batista and HHH could wreak havoc on Raw, assuming they both stay on the Raw brand. Teaming Cena and Orton up against them might also be a decent (and interesting) move. It would also keep these four guys out of the title hunt for a while (assuming Cena drops the belt), allowing others to go for the belt.

 

[asslber]

I would like to Batista and HHH team up. Long term? Probably not. Short term? Yeah. Say one or two matches. That's about it. I would love to see HHH be a heel again though. That would be great.