The Buzz Is Back/ Vince Still Has It

[akrassikauda]

*Please Stay On Topic*

The best thing in any wrestling promotion is when outside entities are talking about your product without death and drug use being discussed. That is what has happened to the WWE this year.

First. The Rocks return. All the entertainment shows went apeshit when he came back and to host WM27.

Second. The CM Punk promo had the same effect as Rock coming back. Those who would normally spit in the face of pro wrestling picked it up and ran with it (ESPN).

Third. HHH relieves Vince of his duties as Chairman. Just read the news wire and the comments from the CNBC reporter about the angle may violate SEC laws. The last time any of this kind of talk happened about violating SEC laws Vince got blown up in the limo and shareholders got nervous. Then that angle was put to bed when **** ****** flew the koo koos nest.

So far this year Vince has proved that he still has it. He has that ability to draw in the casual and not so casual fan and have the talk be mostly positive instead of the negative that plagued the business for years. Can he improve yes sure but when CNBC once again starts talking about an angle you've done your job. When an ESPN contributing writer has the hottest wrestler at the moment doing a podcast or TMZ, Access Hollywood and Entertainment Tonight etc. Talking about what they've seen on tv and about the talent you've done your job. Which is to make a profit but your not going to make a profit on the same eyeballs watching and the same asses in the seats (that's what they have us for) you need new ones and having non wrestling entities giving you free pub to me says He Still Has It!

So do you think that this is the best buzzworthy year the WWE has had in a long time.

And how would you keep it up from August to December.

Discuss. (Keep it peaceful)

 

[poppycock]

Yeah, I do think this year as been the best for some time as far as entertainment and potential goes. The roster is full of potential future stars in the business, some good appearances from faces from the past and better storylines (although not perfect creativly) have made this year more enjoyable than recent ones overall. I never think Vince lost it though to be honest. After Austin, The Rock, Lesnar, Triple H, The Undertaker, Mick Foley, Ric Flair, Batista, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho and many more top stars either retired, left or just showed signs of slowing down Vince has had to rebuild things almost from scratch and in the meantime pin everything on it's top star Cena..until everybody catched up. (I am not a fan of John Cena but would be stupid not to see him as the top star in the WWE). Randy Orton and Edge also playing huge parts in keeping the WWE's main event picture alive with legitimacy. Now after a long transitional period I think we have some great talent that if booked right and allowed to flourish we could have the best roster in a very long time.

 

[Starchild]

I agree that thus far 2011 has been a very exciting year and one of the best in WWE in recent memory. But it really didn't start this year. It began with the debut of Nexus last year, who for the entire summer were the hottest thing in wrestling. It eventually fizzled out and after Barrett left it was pointless, but for a while there Nexus was a very compelling storyline that on occasion would take a twist we didn't see coming.
Then there was the rise of the Miz from tag champ to U.S. champ, MITB winner, and eventually WWE champion. His feuds with Daniel Bryan, Orton, and Cena all made for some great television. There was also what will likely be the final feud between the Brothers of Destruction and perhaps the best story behind it since Kane's debut. Some of the matches were a little lackluster, but the storyline was one of the best in 2010.

Then we get to this year with the things you've mentioned. To your points about the Rock, Punk, and Trips I'll also add what has happened with E&C this year. Edge's sudden retirement was a bit of a surprise, though it did finally provide one of the internet darlings in Christian his time to shine. And imo, he has not disappointed which is exactly what I always knew hew as capable of given the chance. We've also seen the emergence of Cody Rhodes as one of the very best heels in the company and perhaps the beginnings of his run to a future world title. Daniel Bryan, perhaps the biggest IWC darling of all has broken through and gotten the MITB.

There are so many exciting things happening in WWE now and have been for the last year, I don't know how anyone could be bored or disappointed with it. This is the best product we've gotten since the middle of the last decade. I don't see this stopping anytime soon either. This whole Punk/Cena/Vince/and now HHH storyline continues to keep me wondering what is gonna happen next. Will Trips be the new Mr. McMahon? When will Punk return if ever, and will he be this generation's version of Austin upon his return...an antiauthority figure? What is to become of the WWE title? Will they do something with ROH?

With so many unanswered questions that we'll discover answers to in the coming months, I am gonna be glued to the screen when watching WWE for awhile. And none of this even mentions that come December, we'll be really gearing up for what is sure to be an epic RTWM culminating in the dream match Rock vs Cena. Exciting times for a wrestling fan my friend, exciting times.

 

[gunnascott]

I think he just offered the rock the right program at the right time. I also think the dismal buyrate for ER woke him uo.

 

[H33LTurn]

He still has it, but hes been lucky all throughout this situation. If it wasnt for The Rock having his weird change of heart (Call me Dwayne...err but after April 1st though) then we would never have the WM28 main event. If it wasnt for CM Punk snapping and deciding that this was the end of his WWE run (for now) then we woudnt have the Punk stuff. To give Vince credit, he did make the best of all of these situations, but the guy has some luck on his side for all these things to play out at around the same time.

 

[bigbootydaddyV]

it has been a pretty good buzzworthy year and mostly for good stuff for fans (some of it was cheap crap like snookiemania). I was thinking about this earlier, I think one thing they can do to get some more buzz is have an andy kaufman/jerry lawler type moment for John Cena and the Rock. By that I mean they should have some kind of "real" confrontation, something for the paparazzi that'll have everyone wondering if it was real or not. We already know the two don't like each other much and they've had little twitter battles, but how about something more. You know the Rock, i mean Dwayne, gets paparazzi attention so why not use that to your advantage. At least this time both participants will be willing unlike with Taker and Brock (another buzzworthy moment this year).

 

[huegtoad]

he still has it and i am going to offer my opinion with a parrellel of another guy who gets it:
In the mid 2000's SNL was kind of in a slump. They were changing casts, the 2004 election wasn't as hot as elections past, we were still in 9/11\ war depression, and big time cast members were leaving (jimmy fallon and will farrell most notably). Then one of his young cast mates came in and offered up an idea. What if they filmed some sketches using a digital camcorder and call them digital shorts. they can be a music video or a sketch involving cats as guns. Lorne Michaels saw a fresh opportunity, gave it a shot and all of a sudden we have Lettuce, Lazy Sunday, Natelie Portman Raps, Junk in a box and Lazer Cats all Youtube sensations, then allowing Tina Fey Kristen Wig, Amy Pohler go out of the box and take over sketches and weekend update, bring in fresh bands like arcade fire the killers and others and then by 2008, a hot election, and whatnot SNL was on fire again.

What vince is doing is waking up to the fact that world is changing and they have to change with it. You can add so much realism and exposure with Youtube(Zach Ryder), Twitter(Rock vs Cena, CM PUNK others) Facebook and whatnot. All that time getting guys ready is paying off. It is doign it's job because a few months ago, i wanted nothing to do with the busines and now i am hooked again. Lorne Michaels and Vince McMahon just simply know what they are doing and never panic and then change with the times, and that's why so many other entities within their same business model fail while they stay on top!!!

also lost in all this, you loose a guy, another one steps up. we lost(storyline wise) CM Punk for the time being, John Morrison is coming back, and there is no better time than now to embelish and repackage an excellent talent.

 

[The Rich]

The Buzz has been back since 2010


OK, We all know, The Attitude Era, was the Glory Days of WWE.

The Years that followed wern't quite up to scratch but still HIGHLY enteratining.

2007-09 arguably wasn't as great entertainment-wise but there were still some great moments during that time period (DX Reunites, Y2J returns, Flair-HBK at Mania and MANY MORE)


2010 was the year it all changed for me

2010 was filled with great moments and storylines (Edge returns and wins the Royal Rumble, HBK-Undertaker II at Wrestlemania, Batista quits WWE, The Anonymous Raw General Manager, the debut of Alberto Del Rio, The Miz winning MITB and the WWE Championship)


But the greatest moment of genious on the part of Vince and the WWE.....The Nexus invades

The Nexus got everybody in the wrestling world talking again, it set a standard which has continued to this day

Now 2011, The Rock has returned to the WWE, The Miz won the main event of Wrestlemania, CM Punk leaves with the WWE Championship, and now Triple H has replaced Vince McMahon as Chairman of the WWE.


I never doubted Vince for a second, WWE is the greatest entertainment in the world

Thank You Vince, Thank You WWE
Fuck TNA

 

[ECW Sandman]

I have to give credit where credit is do Vince McMahon is a genus, CNBC don't know if this is a work or if it is legit hell to non wrestling fans like CNBC or whoever else thinks this is legit because if you didn't watch RAW last night or on any Monday night you would think it's all real and last night was no exception when HHH said The Board appointed a new Chairman and I said to my self '' Vince it is me '' and then HHH said It is me and then he '' fired '' Vince you could tell it was a storyline people who do not watch Wrestling need to understand that it's all a story minus when some dies besides The McMahon Death Angle or gets legit injured this is what I tell people its like watching a soap or a drama on tv there playing a part it's not who they really are in real life that is what bugs me about some people who bash wrestling you watch tv there playing a part on tv like your favorite stars do but back to what i was saying Vince is a genus you have got to respect him for that.

 

[Cena's #1 In My Heart]

How do we know who really has it?

Maybe Paul(HHH), has been in McMahon's ear all year, tugging on it.. to get this stuff done. I mean they're basically Father/Son.. a father will listen to his boy...

Hell maybe it's the change-ups in creative that we've been told about.

Regardless.. unless you work for the WWE.. you truly don't know who is responsible for these ideas.

Kudos to McMahon for allowing them to pass, I guess?

 

[NotoriousMEAT]

He still has it, but hes been lucky all throughout this situation. If it wasnt for The Rock having his weird change of heart (Call me Dwayne...err but after April 1st though) then we would never have the WM28 main event. If it wasnt for CM Punk snapping and deciding that this was the end of his WWE run (for now) then we woudnt have the Punk stuff. To give Vince credit, he did make the best of all of these situations, but the guy has some luck on his side for all these things to play out at around the same time.

Yeah I completely agree. The stars have really aligned for Vinnie Mac this year, and it looks like they may try to capitalize on this momentum with Triple H taking over. It's all lead to a new ear in World Wrestling Entertainment. They've all been reminded that just by simply giving the fans what they want, it can be beneficial in so many ways. It's definitely an exciting time to be a wrestling fan.

 

[The Golden Boy]

Job well done WWE. Vince is a genius. And this genius needed some time off. HHH taking over, perfect choice to make for killer angles. Whether It's truth or scripted it working and thats all that matters. What the stockholders, SEC, or whoever it is thats worried about stock in WWE going down rest assured they have nothing to worry about. Now if they would just give the WWE Championship to R-Truth for a while everything would be fine. Truth has worked so hard and has had so many s****y angles he deserves it. Just sayin.

 

[Evilash]

Im fully willing to believe that Vince has in fact stepped down from CEO of the company. However, I think its foolish to believe that HHH has stepped up into the actual business role in place of Vince. Sure, on tv HHH is the most obvious choice to replace Vince in that regard, but in the real life day to day operations, no, I dont buy it.

As for that CNBC reporter, I get the point he was trying to make. But something tells me he doesnt actually watch the product he's reporting on. As he noted in his tweet, stocks are down 30% for the year. That was BEFORE this new story angle. The reason I say the reporter doesnt actually watch WWE programing is because if he had then he would know that Vince has been making ALOT of bad choices regarding his company. I dont think Vince stepping down is going to destroy the company as the reporter suggested.

 

[Joshua]

I think its a little early to actually believe that VKM has stepped down. People talk about Vince stepping down all the time on this board and how HHH and Steph will be taking over. Well bottom line is that VKM is in good heath and chances are this is just a way to write him off TV for the rest of the year up until WrestleMania 28. I doubt that Vince is going to not be around for the match he booked a year in advance with the two biggest merchandise (yes I'm sure that's debatable) draws in the history of the company. Add the fact that if Vince was really stepping down it wouldn't be entangled in a CM Punk/John Cena storyline. It would be a whole nother' angle in itself.

Like the thread creator said though, this is proof that Vince still has that magic touch. He has the whole IWC thinking not only that CM Punk has really left with the belt but also that he is stepping down from his post. Genius.

 

[itssoeasy123]

The WWE has been on a roll after CM Punk announced he was leaving. I mean, alot of fan's are now guessing and wondering what the hell is going to happen next. That's what makes it compelling telvision, when you don't know what's going to happen next, the unpredictablity of it is what makes it more awesome.

 

[TheWorldsGreatestTagTeam]

Vince proved he still has it because he had to bring back a former WWE star to gain interest in WrestleMania? It seems he relies on former stars and celebrities to pick up the product.

CM Punk is a wrestler who Vince didn't even think looked like a champ. CM Punk's run proves only that he has it.

The HHH storyline won't draw any casual fan. Punk is the best thing going right now and will take people with him when he leaves.

If Vince still has it then he should work on getting the ratings up. It was only a few years ago (2006-2008) that they WWE was regularly doing high 3's and low 4's in the rating. Now a regular rating is a low 3 and we've seen it dip into the high 2's a few times recently.

 

[californiachef84]

The Buzz has been back since 2010


OK, We all know, The Attitude Era, was the Glory Days of WWE.

First of all, the AE was NOT the glory era of the WWE... That would be the Hogan era that was the glory era...

The Years that followed wern't quite up to scratch but still HIGHLY enteratining.

It had it's moments...

2007-09 arguably wasn't as great entertainment-wise but there were still some great moments during that time period (DX Reunites, Y2J returns, Flair-HBK at Mania and MANY MORE)

Agreed.

2010 was the year it all changed for me

Nothing has changed.

2010 was filled with great moments and storylines (Edge returns and wins the Royal Rumble, HBK-Undertaker II at Wrestlemania, Batista quits WWE, The Anonymous Raw General Manager, the debut of Alberto Del Rio, The Miz winning MITB and the WWE Championship)

HBK & Taker was great, but everything else was stupid... Does anyone even care who the Anonymous General Manager is anymore? The Miz is ******ed...

But the greatest moment of genious on the part of Vince and the WWE.....The Nexus invades

The Nexus got everybody in the wrestling world talking again, it set a standard which has continued to this day

How did the Nexus change ANYTHING? All of those guys are now jobbers and no one care about them... The Nexus was nothing special as evident by how the group ended up. No one will refer to the Nexus in the same breath as the nWo, Four Horsemen, or Evolution...

Now 2011, The Rock has returned to the WWE, The Miz won the main event of Wrestlemania, CM Punk leaves with the WWE Championship, and now Triple H has replaced Vince McMahon as Chairman of the WWE.




I never doubted Vince for a second, WWE is the greatest entertainment in the world

So Vince is a genius for bringing the Rock back? I don't think it takes a genius to realize that the Rock = money... The Miz is a midcard player at best. CM Punk angle is a copy of the EXACT SAME ANGLE THAT PUNK RAN IN ROH!!! We will see how the Triple H thing works out...

Thank You Vince, Thank You WWE
Fuck TNA

How about Fuck you and the horse that you rode in here on... There was no need to bring Impact Wrestling into this discussion, but for some reason you decide to spew your hate about it... If Impact Wrestling is SO HORRIBLE? Then how come WWE mentioned them on Raw last night with Cena's promo?

 

[Shawn]

So there are still critics on here saying that Vince hasnt done any better. Wow i dont konw what else he could do. The man just made a storyline about stepping down from the position he has had for like 30 years. That is huge to me. Plus, Rock just didnt walk back into WWE and say "i'm here" it took some money and negotiations. I mean the price wasnt revealed, but i'd say it took a lot of money to get Rock to get back in the Ring at WM. Plus he allowed Punk to talk about him, his company, and his family. So i'm pretty sure Vince has went to extreme measures to aid his ratings during this trying time for WWE.

So yes Vince McMahon is and always will be the greatest wrestling promoter ever. Even when everyone said that Vince was ruining his product or that he had possible lost touch with the buisness i said he knows exactly what he is doing. He is a genius on the buisness and there will never be another like him.

 

[Dude_Love87]

This has been a great year for wwe. First, I took a 9 year break from wrestling because it was so dumb and got incredibly pointless. The first episode I watched in 9 years was when Edge announced his retirement. Since I've been watching, every episode of raw has been exceptional, including last night. I look for the Miz to win the championship, John Cena to beat him for it say around Survivor Series, then CM Punk shows up and claims to be the true champ. They will pull the classic champion vs champion at Royal Rumble and winner goes on to face the rock at WM. Just my opinion.

And for people who think that the WWE would let someone take the belt and go to another company non kayfabe is an idiot. This is a storyline people. Punk is still an employee, they probably came to a contract agreement and decided to keep it secret for the sake of the story. Back in the day wrestlers weren't allowed to be seen with one another if one was a heel and the other was a face.

 

[pachargers]

How did the Nexus change ANYTHING? All of those guys are now jobbers and no one care about them... The Nexus was nothing special as evident by how the group ended up. No one will refer to the Nexus in the same breath as the nWo, Four Horsemen, or Evolution...

Ok you say all of the Nexus guys are jobbers now. ( Quoting Miz ) Really? Really? Let's get something straight here half of the ORIGINAL Nexus are jobbers. I don't know if you saw but the 1st member Daniel Bryan oh yeah he's MITB Winner. Sure he was only with them for a day but how can you say Wade Barrett is a jobber when he was extremely close to winning the MITB. Justin Gabriel had a fantastic showing there to and another member named Skip Sheffield was reportedly praised by Vince McMahon who said he could be the number 1 or 2 face of the company someday.

If Impact Wrestling is SO HORRIBLE? Then how come WWE mentioned them on Raw last night with Cena's promo?

The reason why they were mentioned was because it was to show that Cena has a great love for wrestling and entertaining and he would go to another company if he had to to continue that. The other reason they said that was to make Cena piss off Vince because Vince would know people (mainly kids) would turn into watch Cena.

Anyways this has been an awesome year so far fr the WWE from bringing back The Rock to having the Cm Punk story to Vince getting replaced by HHH. So yes this has so far been the best year in a while for the WWE. I would continue this breakthrough year by continuing the CM Punk story to at least Night Of Champions. Also I would get rid of tapings for Smackdown because it would get more people to watch that and get into the stories over there to. And I would continue everything else that the WWE is currently doing right now. Hopefully this year keeps on getting better.

 

[californiachef84]

Ok you say all of the Nexus guys are jobbers now. ( Quoting Miz ) Really? Really? Let's get something straight here half of the ORIGINAL Nexus are jobbers. I don't know if you saw but the 1st member Daniel Bryan oh yeah he's MITB Winner. Sure he was only with them for a day but how can you say Wade Barrett is a jobber when he was extremely close to winning the MITB. Justin Gabriel had a fantastic showing there to and another member named Skip Sheffield was reportedly praised by Vince McMahon who said he could be the number 1 or 2 face of the company someday.

The reason why they were mentioned was because it was to show that Cena has a great love for wrestling and entertaining and he would go to another company if he had to to continue that. The other reason they said that was to make Cena piss off Vince because Vince would know people (mainly kids) would turn into watch Cena.

Anyways this has been an awesome year so far fr the WWE from bringing back The Rock to having the Cm Punk story to Vince getting replaced by HHH. So yes this has so far been the best year in a while for the WWE. I would continue this breakthrough year by continuing the CM Punk story to at least Night Of Champions. Also I would get rid of tapings for Smackdown because it would get more people to watch that and get into the stories over there to. And I would continue everything else that the WWE is currently doing right now. Hopefully this year keeps on getting better.

You are really grasping at straws in you have to include Brian Danielson as a member of the Nexus... Then you talk about the other Nexus members having a good showing at MITB... Didn't Shelton Benjamin ALWAYS have a good showing at the MITB matches? Furthermore I said that MOST of them are jobbers now, and , let's face it, nobody really cares about the Corre or the Nexus or whatever the hell it is called. It is not taken seriously.

I never said that the CM Punk angle has not been good; I just pointed out that it is NOT an original idea... We will have to see where this Triple H storyline goes.

Whenever TNA would make a mention of WWE on their programming or take a shot at them, EVERYONE IN HERE said that TNA was classless, tasteless, desperate, a joke, etc... They even went as far as to say that the WWE would NEVER acknowledge that TNA even existed. The WWE was "above" having to mention their competition... However, now that they DID DO IT, it seems as if NO ONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT!!!

Funny how that works... hypocrites!

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

the only difference between this year and most years is that the internet likes a lot of what they're doing this year. Look at the WWE's books (financial), they've made more money each of the past 3 years (2008, 2009, 2010) so it's not like it was suffering. You can be dumb and look at ratings or whatever but that's a very primitive look at success for such a huge media comglomerate.

The buzz is pretty much always there. The Rock coming back stirs up a little more with the rest of the world and so did the CM Punk think. However, in the grand scheme of things, they were blips on the radar for most people who don't care about wrestling.

As for this whole "Nexus is all jobbers now so WWE fucked up" shit. Well first off, Nexus has made Wade Barrett and Daniel Bryan into mid level stars. The rest are serviceable card fillers. That's a big deal for a show who's goal was to produce 1 star. Think about this, the reason the Nexus angle didn't last was because Vince knew these guys weren't long term draws. Sure when they're attacking people it draws attention, but during matches is someone going to stop and watch or will they say "I don't now this guy and he's not even very good"? They won't. So the whole Nexus taking over was short term. The rest are jobbers because they aren't that good. They don't have mic or in ring charisma. They are decent in the ring (don't jerk off over Gabriel's high flying, jesus christ that's not what makes a great wrestler) and they do their job. It's not a big deal and WWE didn't fuck up. In fact, they did a damn good job at making some very mediocre talent relevant on a show.

 

[itssoeasy123]

Ok you say all of the Nexus guys are jobbers now. ( Quoting Miz ) Really? Really? Let's get something straight here half of the ORIGINAL Nexus are jobbers. I don't know if you saw but the 1st member Daniel Bryan oh yeah he's MITB Winner. Sure he was only with them for a day but how can you say Wade Barrett is a jobber when he was extremely close to winning the MITB. Justin Gabriel had a fantastic showing there to and another member named Skip Sheffield was reportedly praised by Vince McMahon who said he could be the number 1 or 2 face of the company someday.



You are really grasping at straws in you have to include Brian Danielson as a member of the Nexus... Then you talk about the other Nexus members having a good showing at MITB... Didn't Shelton Benjamin ALWAYS have a good showing at the MITB matches? Furthermore I said that MOST of them are jobbers now, and , let's face it, nobody really cares about the Corre or the Nexus or whatever the hell it is called. It is not taken seriously.

I never said that the CM Punk angle has not been good; I just pointed out that it is NOT an original idea... We will have to see where this Triple H storyline goes.

Whenever TNA would make a mention of WWE on their programming or take a shot at them, EVERYONE IN HERE said that TNA was classless, tasteless, desperate, a joke, etc... They even went as far as to say that the WWE would NEVER acknowledge that TNA even existed. The WWE was "above" having to mention their competition... However, now that they DID DO IT, it seems as if NO ONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT!!!

Funny how that works... hypocrites!

Oh good Lord!

Everytime TNA's takes a shot at WWE, it's a tasteless jab. This whole "Wrestling Matter's" campaign is only becuase WWE rebranded. TNA have never said anything positive about WWE, ever. They've bashed Triple H on multiple occasion's, had that fake Vince McMahon that one show, had VKM go to Stanford, and continuously call out DX and Vince. They bashed the tie choking incident, put billboard's in Stanford (in which probably 100 people watch wrestling) just to try and get Vince's attention. Every single former WWE superstar that goes over to TNA bashes WWE, a current storyline in WWE, or Vince McMahon. The "Fuck You Vince" chant after Hardcore Justice. They've been trying to get Vince McMahon's attention since day one, and continue to fail.

John Cena was clearly stating that if he was fired he would go to somewhere else, with making a little pun at TNA, by saying "brother." WWE hardly ever takes a jab, or pun, or any mention of TNA on their telvision, that's why when Cena said "brother" it was a shock because alot of people know what's he's talking about. It wasn't a tasteless jab, bash, or talking down to TNA, like TNA does all the time to WWE. The acknowledged TNA without even saying TNA, but saying "brother," which was a obvious reference to Hogan, who is currently in TNA. And to be honest, how many people in the audience even know Hogan's in TNA? This is like what, the third or forth time TNA has been somewhat scknowledged on WWE television, in TNA's nearly ten years in business. When, TNA bashes WWE for no reason at all, like 8 times a year.

 

[jacdnwarrior]

He's made some great moves. The Nexus was a very good idea, but the execution towards the end was pretty lousy. Creating the feud between the Rock and Cena was a brilliant move. Having Rock host WM27 and then getting Rock to say yes to a match against Cena in WM28 was another great move that has fans salivating for WM28 almost an year before the event.

The CM Punk promo was a swerve I didn't see coming. I was pretty surprised by the things he was allowed to say and the fact that he was allowed to win and 'leave' with the belt was something that I wouldn't have believed possible in a million years.

I haven't been happy with everything that WWE has done, and have been very vocal about my disappointment with some of the choices he's made with the performers he's had, but I have to give the devil his due, Vince made some great moves during the last year or so.

 

[Hazardous]

californiachef84, and itssoeasy123.. Would you please learn how to quote properly?

Anyone who thinks Vince lost it to begin with, really doesn't understand the business side of it all. Vince is right when he says everything he does is for the business. Ratings were fine, Sales were fine, everything was fine. Every now and then when people start bitching that it's "SO BORING!!" he'll throw out something that screams "surprise bitches!"
Oh, of course since everyone is apparently an expert these days, there are still those who whine and complain about it. those people however, are not real fans. They are either TNA fans shitting on the WWE product, or people who are trying to hold on to memories of an Era long gone.