The brand split ruins a potential storyline

[BringThePain834]

The next Two Man Power Trip is something that could work well considering this New Era and the fact that the brand split is coming makes this damn near impossible to pull off. Even now that WWE has the two guys to make it work perfectly. And those two guys are John Cena and Randy Orton. John Cena has said that the new generation has to go through him to make it in WWE, and he has beaten pretty much everyone in the new generation there is in his US Open Challenge. And then there's Randy Orton, who works best as a vicious heel, and he could come back straight as a heel and go off on everybody that's part of the new era in WWE.

This could go on for several weeks, then leading to the night after SummerSlam, where Orton runs a mass beatdown on two guys, then John Cena comes to the rescue, or so we think, where Cena then finally does his heel turn, and along with Orton, beats down everyone in the New Era, and like Triple H and Stone Cold then did, went fucking berserk on everybody in WWE, and taking all the gold. This storyline could be used to keep everyone entertained from the dark period in WWE of post-SummerSlam to TLC.

The fact that the brand split is happening, which prevents this storyline from happening is maddening to me.

 

[Kyphael]

That's a great idea, except there's one tiny problem. Vince and WWE refuse to turn John Cena heel, and for that to work and be even remotely good, Cena would have to go full heel alongside Orton, beating down guys like Reigns, Ambrose, Sami Zayn, Enzo & Cass, New Day, and Neville in mercilessly backstage and gang man-like attacks in the ring.

WWE doesn't want Cena heel, so it's not going to happen. Great idea, though.

 

[Mudlup50]

I've been suggesting this for years now but this is the worst time for it, and it's not because of the Brand Split. Basically any team that gets thrown together has to feud sometime, and that means we get another Cena/Orton match/feud. Anyone else excited?

I do think they should do this, it keeps Cena and Orton out of the main event, while giving a boost to the tag division. Imagine a feud between Cenorton and Enzass. Cass pins Orton clean and then the next week happens to beat Cena, then Cass can say he beat 27 world title reigns.

But the real problem here is the feud at the end, unless they did it at a draft next year?

 

[nWo2]

Intriguing concept and one my co-hosts and I have discussed at length even today ironically AND one we've used in WWE2k17.

1. John Cena can't turn heel. Its not that he can't resort to playing heel its just that the "smarks" don't actually hate Cena and his fans wont turn on him because of any on-screen storyline. The only true way for John Cena to go heel and actually get heat would be to disrespect Make-A-Wish kids or to AA some freakishly strong Polynesian kid through a table. BUT lets say for fucksake it happened

2. The Two Man Power Trip CAN WORK and those guys ARE the guys to do it!

3. John Cena would have to go Corporate when he's not wrestling and wear old school trunks when he does and also cut promos bragging about burying guys in the past and admitting he enjoyed it the entire time.

4. The brand split would allow this storyline to play out on Smackdown with newer stars namely the guys who've recently come up from NXT including Kevin Owens (YASS TURN HIM FACE), Sami Zayn, Apollo Crews, Enzo & Cass and the guys who are bound to move up such as Austin Aries, Bobby Roode, Nakamura and MOSTLY to put over SAMOA JOE and/or FINN BALOR!

5. Raw would feature The Shield, The Wyatt Family, The Club, Cesaro & Baron Corbin and would still have more than enough talent to go around.

 

[The Samoan Heritage]

I have always like the idea and only ever visioned it being Cena and Orton, but ive come to terms that Cena will never turn heel.
It can still happen though, except I strongly doubt Cena would be involved.
I would replace Orton and Cena with Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins.
How they would get booked is obvious...complete domination. Win all the titles(on which ever show they're on) and attack everyone backstage and pre/post matches.

I would end it with one of them getting drafted to the other brand. Have them lose the IC and tag championship and just when you think things are about to boil over between the two, someone gets drafted.
That wouldn't be the end though.

As Rollins and Reigns would go on to build their own faction/group on their respective show.

- Rollins/Revival(or Ascension)/Baron Corbin
- Reigns/Usos/Samoa Joe

After feuding with the faces on their show for a while, Reigns and Rollins two groups would eventually come to heads at Survivor Series.

 

[Kizzani]

The fact that the brand split is happening, which prevents this storyline from happening is maddening to me.

All I can say is wow. Well that is not true I got tons more to say and if I do slide into a little name calling I apologize, it isn't your fault others have me upset.

First I am going to attack teh Cena Heel scenario, some many are clamouring for Cena to turn heel, see in a world where we love bad guys, just look at OJ and all the love he got and still gets, any criminal that is mishandled we jump on his side. We love bad guys and bad people. But in that mess of what we call the world nowadays there needs to be a constant a Ghandi, a Jesus, a classic baby face that remains strong that way, amist the chaos we need to see at least 1 man will not break down into evil ways.

Hulk Hogan did this for 20+ years, John Cena is far from Hogan and far from a heel turn. There is no point, John Cena turns heel now he is just another heel, there is no spectacular shock value so many are waiting for, Plus this is an event better held for Mania.

Here is how I would do it (if I did it) Build a big baby face, Like a Sami Zayn type build him chasing the gold for years, let Cena save him a few times. Then when Zayn wins the world title at Wrestlemania 37 (yes years from now) Cena drops the hammer and turns heel.

Now let's move on to by far the worst wrestling thing said since WOO WOO WOO. I will pretend for a minute that Cena is a heel and Orton also and they work as a team.
Just because there is a brand spilt and two different rosters and shows, you can't HONESTLY tell me you don't ever expect to see any crossover ever? clearly 1 show per McMahon kid.

 

[King Patrick Star]

I have been saying this for years!! John Cena and Randy Orton should become the new Two-Man Power Trip. Originally, I wanted Triple H to manage them, or even have John and Randy work for the Authority as the Power Trip, but with the way things are now, I believe Triple H would be better used as the one to lead the NeXT generation of WWE SuperStars against Cena and Orton. This isn't going to be so much of a Face vs. Heel storyline, but more of an Old vs. Young storyline.

First I would have them destroy the New Day and take the WWE World Tag Team Championship Titles. I’d even have Cena and Orton dare the New Day to make it a 2-on-3 Handicap match, if they think that would even help them.

Shortly after that, I’d have John Cena defeat the Miz and win the Intercontinental Championship Title. They can reference WrestleMania 27, and Cena can say things like, the Rock isn’t here to help you Miz.

On the same show, I’d have Randy Orton defeat Rusev and win the United States Championship Title. This could be Rusev’s chance to turn face in the process.

I’d give the new Power Trip a nice long run, until they decided to go for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship Title. This is where things get interesting. Who gets the shot?? Dissention starts building towards the Power Trip exploding, and ending their alliance.

 

[BestSportsEntertainer]

There are a bunch of problems with this.

1 - Why would Cena team with Orton? They are huge rivals.

2 - Orton probably isn't going to work full-time.

3 - Who would be the top faces besides Reigns and Ambrose?

Decent idea I guess, but it can't and won't happen.

 

[Psykohurricane55]

Their just one problem with this plan and that's all the money that WWE would leave on the table for this to work. Cena is still moving a lot of merchandise for WWE, he's also near his retirement since he's already starting to branch out of wrestling with movies and tv show, so i don't see cena wanting to turn heel on his last leg of his wrestling career.

Also the original 2 man power trip almost ruin Stone cold steve austin as a performer and Austin said it himself, it was the biggest mistake he ever made during his wrestling career, so at this point, you have to get a really good reason for cena to turn heel right now and sadly they don'T have one.

 

[Trill Co$by]

Not a fan of it... simply because Orton should take control as the face of Raw for a while after returning. Cena's going to Smackdown, that much is obvious. They did the same with The Rock AND Hulk Hogan in the first draft, they'll do it again here so that they can generate revenue. Roman Reigns is a nice WWE champion for me, but the masses isn't liking it. As of right now, there is no other face strong enough to carry the title. So Orton will definitely be staying on Raw.

There are a bunch of problems with this.

1 - Why would Cena team with Orton? They are huge rivals.

2 - Orton probably isn't going to work full-time.

3 - Who would be the top faces besides Reigns and Ambrose?

Decent idea I guess, but it can't and won't happen.

1 - Cena and Orton have worked together in the past, and have even admitted on camera that they respect each other. They were teamed together alongside Ryback (?) to face the Shield, they stood tall together against the entire roster and worked as a unit even after the match was thrown out. Plus, they both know that they're better than anyone who wants to step to them and take their spot.

2 - Despite his recent shoulder injury, which if I recall was the longest he's been out since his first world title reign ended; I think Orton's got a few good years before he becomes a part timer. He may take less house shows, but with the brand split letting him work even less televised events; I don't see there being a problem preventing him from becoming a full time member on Raw or Smackdown.

3 - AJ Styles, Seth Rollins, Sami Zayn, Shinsuke Nakamura, Bray Wyatt, Big E, Big Cass, Neville, and others could all be put in places to catapult them into upper mid-card to legitimate main eventers.

 

[BestSportsEntertainer]

1 - Cena and Orton have worked together in the past, and have even admitted on camera that they respect each other. They were teamed together alongside Ryback (?) to face the Shield, they stood tall together against the entire roster and worked as a unit even after the match was thrown out. Plus, they both know that they're better than anyone who wants to step to them and take their spot.

2 - Despite his recent shoulder injury, which if I recall was the longest he's been out since his first world title reign ended; I think Orton's got a few good years before he becomes a part timer. He may take less house shows, but with the brand split letting him work even less televised events; I don't see there being a problem preventing him from becoming a full time member on Raw or Smackdown.

3 - AJ Styles, Seth Rollins, Sami Zayn, Shinsuke Nakamura, Bray Wyatt, Big E, Big Cass, Neville, and others could all be put in places to catapult them into upper mid-card to legitimate main eventers.

It's one of those things you'd like to see, but it really wouldn't work. It leaves the other show without star talent. Besides Cena isn't turning heel anyways.

 

[Woodstuff]

Good god, another thread about WWE rehashing a storyline from 10 years ago.

Besides the obvious 'WWE should do this thing from my childhood' issue, the glaring problem with this angle is that WWE would need to turn Cena heel in order for it to work. WWE shouldn't (and won't) turn their biggest cash cow heel just to recreate a storyline they ran a decade ago. And they definitely won't turn him for the sake of an angle designed to "keep fans interested from SummerSlam to TLC".

Cena's heel turn will open a huge creative window for a brand new, never before seen angle. The type of angle that the next generation of unsatisfiable smarks will claim WWE should bring back for the next era of superstars. But it won't happen until they have someone that naturally fills his role as the No.1 face of the company.

Plus, Cena turning heel on screen won't stop him visiting make-a-wish kids, doing nice guy media appearances, and all the other PR stuff WWE has him doing. Continuity between their on-screen character and real-life dealings is something wrestling personalities (ie. HHH, Stephanie McMahon, Luke Harper etc) are CONSTANTLY slammed for by 'smart' fans.

As nice an idea as this is, it'd be much better suited to WWE 2K16 than actual WWE TV.