"The Best of the 90's - Feuds"

[IrishCanadian25]

WZ- Due to my passion for wrestling from the 1990's, I am going to post a thread every so often called "The Best of the 90's." I ask you to tap back, but not too far, to the decade that redefined wrestling in so many ways, whether it was Bret Hart's "respect era" or Steve Austin's "Attitude Era."

For the first installment, I ask you to rank the greatest feuds of the 1990's. Please vote and provide insight.

 

[Agrex]

I voted for The Attitudes Era greatest rivalry, The Rock Vs. Stone Cold. Almost every time the step into a ring together they put on a classic. If you don't believe me watch ther Wrestlemania 15, a classic.

 

[lordofdarkness009]

undertaker vs mankind as the best feud during the 1990's.the hell in the cell,buried alive match,boiler room brawl were all classics

 

[Lee]

I was going to go with Bret and HBK then I thought no, defo Bret and Owen. These two were brothers and the fued they had was incredible. That steel cage match at wrestlemania 10 (I think) was one of my favourite matches, down to Owen being in the corner for Backlund for the title match. It was very heated and it seemed like real emotion [obviously wasn't but you know]!

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I voted for Shawn Michaels & Bret Hart, although I would've voted for Edge/Christian v. The Hardyz, however that was a late '99 feud that went into the 00's.. so it kinda doesn't count.

At any rate, my reason for the Michaels/Hart vote was more than just their (now-famous) screw-job in Canada. It leads further back than that, all the way to the early 90's.

Bret Hart was all about respect, while Shawn Michaels back then, was all about the opposite. Hart dispised Michaels for everything, down to his look. (which is disrespectful in itself) I was a huge fan of both wrestlers, but once I looked deeper.. I lost slight respect for Hart, as he had major issues with Shawn Michaels even being liked.. & that he couldn't understand how, because to him, (Hart) Michaels was everything disrespectful.

I myself have long hair & have been catagorized (sp?) as a bad person from time to time, because of my hair alone. Noone wants to take a deeper look if they can so easily point a finger saying "oh, long hair, their a punk!"

So yeah, this kinda hits a deeper root with me, because it borderlines my own life.. but as far as classic feuds go.. these two also put on heated matches, that you could tell they truly dispised each other.

 

[iget4:20higher]

Woah partna! No 90's poll is complete without something ECW related in it. I might get some heat for that, but you know it is true. Anyway Dreamer vs. Raven because I mean it showed us what real psychology was all about. The promos , hardcore matches, and the inclusion of many more people was so phenominal it was sorta funny. Runner ups include Taz vs. Sabu and Taz vs. Bam Bam.

 

[BigDaddyKewl]

What about The Hulkster? he had some good feuds with Warrior, Sid, Sting, Piper, Flair etc

 

[shayneomac]

Bret Hart vs Steve Austin.
It single handedly saved Wrestle Mania 13 and was literally the only major angle that the WWE had from late 96 to early 97 that could stop WCW running away with the ratings (with HBK suffering from a fake injury).
It also according to Austin, made him the legend that he is percieved to be today.

 

[RVDgurl]

Given the choices I am assuming this is strictly WWE related. I was a huge fan of the Hardyz v. Edge & Christian fued- some of the best gimmick matches of the Attitude Era.

However, my personal favorite fued of the 90's was Steve Austin v. Vince McMahon. That was absolutely brilliant. They did some of the funniest shit during that fued and Vinnie was such a good heel. That fued helped make Austin a legend.

 

[iget4:20higher]

I didn't know it was WWE only since it is in the "Old School" section. If it is WWE only then the maker should make that the title of the thread cause I guarantee people will bring more ECW and WCW around here. I mean assuming its WWE only.

 

[Mr.ROCKY]

ya austin n the rock were great rivalries they gave it they're all and i dont think any of there matches were dissapointing

but one of the rivalries that were underlooked for shurr was the austin, undertaker one
lol anybody remember when taker kidnapped austin from the hospital wow watching that as a kid i was scared shitless that undertaker had lost his mind and HE REALLY WAS GOING to kill austin

 

[The Unforgiven]

How can you have a thread asking for the best rivarly of the 90's and not include the N.W.O. vs. Sting. The rivarly made Sting a huge mega star. It saved Hogans career. It almost destroyed the WWF and it branched out to make Luger and DDP huge stars also. However if i had to choose from the list i would have to go with the Hardys vs. E&C. Truly great matches with some amazing spots in the TLC matches. Those matches really put those 4 wrestlers on the map.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

So everybody knows, this thread DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ONLY WWE RELATED. I am thrilled that so many of you brought up ECW and WCW, thank you for thinking outside of the box. Please, if you have a feud you prefer from another league, let me know about it. The whole reason I post these is to get people to think critically!

4:20 and RVD Gurl, send those ECW feuds over!

 

[RVDgurl]

Oh my God... ECW fueds of the 90's....where to start....

Raven v. Tommy Dreamer
This fued lasted nearly 2 years and only ended because Raven left the company. Absolutely tremendous. This fued spawned probably 5 or 6 side fueds which made for such a solid storyline. It incorporated so many of the characters in ECW which made just about every match on the card for those 2 years tie together. Brilliant booking.

Raven v. Sandman
Some of the best hard core matches ever performed. A long fued that lasted about a year. These guys did some really creative things. How about the crucifixion of the Sandman? That was one of the best spots ever in wrestling history!

Shane Douglas v. Pitbulls
This fued generated more heat than I have ever seen, largely because the fans were aware that Gary Wolfe blamed Douglas for his broken neck. The promos and verbal confrontations surrounding this fued were actually better than the matches themselves.

 

[Slyfox696]

Wow. The two best feuds of the 90s isn't even on this list.

Hogan/NWO vs. Sting - Probably the best feud of the 90s and one of the best built feuds ever.
Steve Austin vs. Mr. McMahon - Probably the biggest feud of the 90s and one of the biggest feuds ever.

Flair vs. Hogan in the WWF was shaping up to be a hell of a feud as well. It's just unfortunate that Flair wasn't even close to being in Hogan's league, so the WWF had to pull the plug.

No 90's poll is complete without something ECW related in it.

I agree. With the good, you must always include the bad. We have great feuds and memorable ones which drew millions around the world, so now we have to include ECW, who filled bingo halls with feuds that most of the wrestling world didn't care about.

 

[Lil Wes]

Hogan/NWO vs. Sting - Probably the best feud of the 90s and one of the best built feuds ever.

Agreed What is up with that? By far one of the best built feuds ever in WCW and 90's. A year build up and one of the most hyped matches ever at Starrcade 97. A damn good feud that carried WCW for some time.

I agree. With the good, you must always include the bad. We have feuds and memorable ones which drew millions around the world, so now we have to include ECW, who filled bingo halls with feuds that most of the wrestling world didn't care about.

The Raven/Sandman angle was a good storyline though. The rest...I either don't know and really don't care.

Other Choices...

Austin/McMahon- Of course this had to be the feud of the 90's. It's what got Austin as over as he was and led to alot of fun,entertaining moments that I'll always remember. This was a classic. It made the legend of Stone Cold.

And going by your list I voted Rock/Austin just because they were the 2 biggest stars of the Attitude Era and 2 of the biggest stars ever. They had 2 great WM matches and really good feuds. These 2 were the face of WWE at the time. Great feud.matches,promos. Great times.

 

[X]

I'd really have to go with The Rock vs. Stone Cold with Bret Hart vs. HBK coming in at a very very close second. HBK and Bret was an amazing feud don't get me wrong. But The Rock vs. Austin was when I really started getting into wrestling, so for me it holds a nostalgic bit over the HBK vs. Bret feud which I went back and watched later on.

Though I'd also put the Hart Foundation vs. the USA feud pretty close. That was awesome.

 

[RVDgurl]

I agree. With the good, you must always include the bad. We have great feuds and memorable ones which drew millions around the world, so now we have to include ECW, who filled bingo halls with feuds that most of the wrestling world didn't care about.

Oh Sly, wait until we sit and watch countless hours of ECW goodness- you will change your tune. If the wrestling world didn't care what was going on in that filthy little bingo hall, Vinnie and Eric wouldn't have "borrowed" so many of their ideas. Remember, the crucifixion of the Sandman (which was one of the greatest spots ever in wrestling history) was ripped off by big Vince just a few months later.

But the fueds you named were ok, too.

 

[hammondegger3]

Hart vs Austin - the start of Austins face turn while still not having the Federation top star not doing the job. Great matches at Survivor Series and Wrestlemania as well as the Royal Rumble.

Hart vs Michaels - great matches from 2 guys who legitamately didn't like each other.

Flair vs Savage - spanned both promotions, both a little past their primes, but could still deliever.

The rest of the feuds on the list with the possible exception of Undertaker-Mankind, can go down the toilet as far as I'm concerned.

 

[JasonSensation]

Taz vs. Sabu.

Sting vs Hogan took a year to build up... but so did Taz and Sabu before their much-hyped encounter at Barely Legal and rematch at Wrestlepalooza...

As stated previously in the thread, ECW definitely got the short end of the stick in that they couldn't come up with a good idea without it getting snatched up by one of the big two. *ahem* hardcore division *ahem*

 

[IrishCanadian25]

SlyFox is quoted as saying: "Flair vs. Hogan in the WWF was shaping up to be a hell of a feud as well. It's just unfortunate that Flair wasn't even close to being in Hogan's league, so the WWF had to pull the plug."

Dude, I have come to expect more from you than this. Flair vs Hogan!? That feud was well built and prepared, but NEVER HAPPENED. It didn't come to fruition. One of the main aspects of a truly GREAT feud is direct conflict! Closure! When was the big Hogan vs Flair match? And don't hit me with "Bash at the Beach." Nobody cared. It was crap.

WWE/F kept teasing the Flair / Hogan match, but then kept throwing in side feuds such as Hogan vs Undertaker, Flair vs Piper, Hogan vs Justice, and Flair vs Savage. Hey, it's great that Flair and Hogan spawned so much great stuff, but come on, the feud doesn't even belong in a Top 20 list!

Sting vs Hogan and the nWo was ok, but again, by the time that match actually happened most fans started getting bored with the nWo idea. I actually say Sting was third in the list of good Hogan and nWo feuds from the 90's behind Hogan vs Luger and Hogan vs Goldberg. And I wouldn't put ANY of those feuds on my list either.

Remember, folks, you ARE NOT LIMITED to the poll options. I am limited to 10 choices, one of which had to be "Other" for you WCW and ECW marks to get your shots in (which i appreciate, especially you RVDGurl) but the ones I lists stand.

I would throw Austin vs McMahon up there if I had the option.

 

[Freedom 35]

Austin/McMahon- Of course this had to be the feud of the 90's. It's what got Austin as over as he was and led to alot of fun,entertaining moments that I'll always remember. This was a classic. It made the legend of Stone Cold

your right that feud and some of the things he did really made stone colds career. so many memorable moment and now thanks to that all people think about when they think of stone colds career are the things he did in the mcmahon feud.

 

[Lil Wes]

Sting vs Hogan and the nWo was ok, but again, by the time that match actually happened most fans started getting bored with the nWo idea. I actually say Sting was third in the list of good Hogan and nWo feuds from the 90's behind Hogan vs Luger and Hogan vs Goldberg. And I wouldn't put ANY of those feuds on my list either.

rofl, So your saying fans got bored with it? How come WCW was kicking WWE's ass in the ratings weekly at the time? Sting/Hogan is easily one of the feuds of the 90's I thought of it right off the top of my head. It easily beats half the feuds on that poll. Luger/Hogan... No not even close. Goldberg/Hogan is pretty close but that is really when people were bored with the nWo. The whole build up for that feud was great the ending of the match at Starrcade is about all that was ever bad about Sting/Hogan.

HBK/Jannety was better than Sting/Hogan??? No.

E&C/Hardys was better than Sting/Hogan? No. They were a damn tag teams Hogan/Sting were main eventers who drew people to WCW at the time.

Taker/MANKIND!!!-No,No,No and No.

Sting/Hogan easily beats those 3 but it wasn't greater than Austin/McMahon or Rock/Austin but it was a damn good feud worth listing.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

I pulled the following statement off of Wikipedia.com:

"When WCW delivered the Sting vs. Hogan match for the WCW World Championship, the event drew WCW's largest buyrate and Bischoff was largely praised in the months leading up to this event because of his refusal to "hotshot" (give away a big money pay-per-view match before proper build up, causing a lesser buyrate) Sting vs. Hogan for the WCW World Title.[36]

However, wrestling fans consider this show to be the beginning of the end for WCW, even though WCW was dominating the WWF in the television ratings at the time.[37] Hogan was heavily criticized for not doing a clean finish to the match, which confused and irritated fans who had waited over a year to see Sting take down the nWo. The finish actually involved a recently-introduced Bret Hart (who had refereed the preceding match between Bischoff and Larry Zbyszko for control of Nitro) coming down to the ring after Hogan had supposedly won the match. Hart alleged that referee Nick Patrick had performed a fast count on Sting and wanted to "make things right."[38] Although, according to Eric Bischoff in his book Controversy Creates Ca$h, the count looked like a normal count. Bret Hart insisted the match continue (with himself as referee) in order to prevent Sting from being "screwed" like Hart had been in the WWF with the Montreal Screwjob."

I couldn't agree more. The build-up was legendary - one of the five best promoted feuds in wrestling history. But the end result was a HUGE let down, and didn't deliver what it promised. Big Wes, I love your points. I disagree, but yours wil be tough to rebuke.

I am a Jannetty mark, so you can hit me with bias if you like, it's fine. But the Michaels vs Jannetty matches had a longer build up than Sting vs Hogan as The Rockers were one of the top (and most popular) tag teams in the 80's and 90's. Sting and Hogan? Not so much. Jannetty spent a few months out of action to sell the "injury" from being tossed through the Barbershop Window. Sting was out more than a year, and fans wondered if he could still wrestle. How many consecutive months was it just Sting in the rafters looking down? And The Crow...how original!

Jannetty vs Michaels also had matches that DELIVERED. There was a clear-cut winner. In fact, as an Intercontinental Title feud, their matches OVER-DELIVERED. Hogan's match wound up like most of his matches - overpromised, underdelivered.

 

[Slyfox696]

SlyFox is quoted as saying: "Flair vs. Hogan in the WWF was shaping up to be a hell of a feud as well. It's just unfortunate that Flair wasn't even close to being in Hogan's league, so the WWF had to pull the plug."

Dude, I have come to expect more from you than this. Flair vs Hogan!? That feud was well built and prepared, but NEVER HAPPENED. It didn't come to fruition. One of the main aspects of a truly GREAT feud is direct conflict! Closure! When was the big Hogan vs Flair match? And don't hit me with "Bash at the Beach." Nobody cared. It was crap.

You just repeated what I said. *shrugs*

If Flair had been able to carry Hogan's jockstrap it could have been one of the greatest feuds. But, despite the fact he cheated Hogan at Survivor Series costing him the title, despite the fact he proclaimed himself the "Real World's Champion", despite the fact he had Bobby Heenan himself as his manager, Ric Flair couldn't get over worth a damn. So, they had to drop the Hogan/Flair feud and, presumably, postpone it for a later date. Flair wasn't even close to being in Hogan's league, and so the feud that everyone presumably had always wanted to see, wound up being dropped.

I never said it was a top feud. I said it could have been...if it hadn't been for Flair.

I couldn't agree more. The build-up was legendary - one of the five best promoted feuds in wrestling history. But the end result was a HUGE let down, and didn't deliver what it promised. Big Wes, I love your points. I disagree, but yours wil be tough to rebuke.

The finish was wrong. No doubt about it. They screwed up the finish of the match. But, everything else in that feud was PERFECT. It was the perfect long-term feud with plot turns and story twists along the way. It was easily the best feud of the 90s. Not the biggest, but the best.

I am a Jannetty mark, so you can hit me with bias if you like, it's fine. But the Michaels vs Jannetty matches had a longer build up than Sting vs Hogan as

Wait, are you telling me that the Rockers was better than Sting/Hogan? Please. You're one of the few to believe that. It wasn't as good, the crowd didn't care as much, and the story wasn't near as in-depth nor as emotionally charged.

The Rockers were one of the top (and most popular) tag teams in the 80's and 90's.Sting and Hogan? Not so much.

You are right there. Of course, while the Rockers were busy winning ZERO tag team championships in the WWF, Hulk Hogan and Sting were busy main-eventing and being the biggest babyfaces of their respective rival companies.

Clearly, Hogan and Sting just don't compare to Jannetty and Michaels.

How many consecutive months was it just Sting in the rafters looking down? And The Crow...how original!

It's called a slow build. Many of today's wrestling fans don't seem to grasp that concept.

And, are you telling me The Crow gimmick was unoriginal in professional wrestling???