The Authority: Drawing Natural Heat?

[babinko]

"HHH and Steph are getting the kinda heat Vince got back in the attitude era.. Natural, PURE heat. This is great."

I saw "Jason" post this in Disqus during the Raw comments last night. Even though they were in a city where they were bound to be boo'd out of the building, do you think the Authority not giving the WWE Fans what they want is a good thing for them to draw heat?

People are so pissed off lately not getting the dream outcomes they want. If anyone follows my previous threads, I tapped into the ideas on how not giving Bryan the title is genius because he will receive a bigger pop when the time actually comes.

Mr. H's is a wrestler and works side by side with Vince, the man knows the business inside and out. I even find myself just so pissed at him because hes not doing what I want, which in his eyes is exactly what he wants.

I think Jason is right, HHH is on his way to getting Vince heat. It is going to be hard for HHH to top what Vince did in the late 90s but I think we are really building up to it. I love the fact people complain they will never watch the product but they still do anyways. There will be an outcome to everything we see but we just have to wait.

Many of us have been feeling like this since Summerslam:

Do you think HHH is purposely not giving us what we want is good to further his heel status? Do you think HHH & Stephanie can draw the same heat as the 90s Vince?

Thoughts?

 

[rge2010]

Seems to me that WWE have nobody to go to war with, so they are going to war with the WWE Universe.

Its okay, members of the IWC can piss and moan on forums about unhappy they are, and that they wont subscribe to the network and will stop watching Raw but they are kidding themselves and WWE knows this.

Last night the entire IWC and Chicago crowd were played for fools. WWE decided to embrace the Punk situation because they had no other choice. They put out a red herring to that fool Dave Meltzer!!!

Playing Punks music and sending out Heyman was a stroke of genius. It knocked the wind out of the crowds sails. They heard his music, they got what they wanted. The Usos then won the gold, another feel good factor. Finally the end segment had Triple H and Stephanie addressing the crowd with Daniel Bryan. The fans were not going to turn on Bryan so he was inserted for that very reason - and to further the storyline.

No hijacking. No walk out. Nothing. Just a load of pissed off fans who will still continue to watch!!!!

 

[babinko]

Seems to me that WWE have nobody to go to war with, so they are going to war with the WWE Universe.

I sort of like that. Go against your core fans. Seems a bit illogical because they are BUYING your product. Yet, like as stated by many in the past, WWE has this niche audience that never will go away. They will always watch through thick and thin. So no matter what WWE does, people will still watch. Going to war with your fans will gain greater outcry of responses and reactions. Smart idea on paper if it all works out and sales don't plummet.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

No. Not at all.

If anything they're giving everything the IWC / people want: Cesaro face turn, The Shield pushed, The Wyatts pushed, Bryan getting his revenge on the Authority (kind of)...

 

[babinko]

No. Not at all.

If anything they're giving everything the IWC / people want: Cesaro face turn, The Shield pushed, The Wyatts pushed, Bryan getting his revenge on the Authority (kind of)...

...Yah and they're giving the IWC/people the greatest Main Event of all time at WM 30 with Batista vs Orton.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

...Yah and they're giving the IWC/people the greatest Main Event of all time at WM 30 with Batista vs Orton.

If you haven't noticed Batista turned heel, there's no way a heel vs heel match will end WMXXX.

Bryan or someone else will be added and the match will be a triple threat.

 

[Eddie Menuek]

I think they're doing great. In fact I don't think anybody is playing their character better than Triple H and Stephanie McMahon are doing at the moment.

A lot of people seem to have the issue that they're flip flopping between babyface and heel, which is something that I haven't seen at all. Since Summerslam they have been, for all intents and purposes, heels. They just aren't being the obvious, despicable heel authority figures that we're used to as wrestling fans. They're putting a new spin on the role which is closer to reality, and is getting people worked up in a way that your typical heel authority like John Laurinaitis or Vickie Guerrero wouldn't have been able to pull off. The 'face of the WWE' schtick is starting to wear off and sooner or later I'd like to see them settle on a guy and stop using that term, because there's only so many more times that my ears can deal with hearing it, but as long as they can keep it fresh this role isn't something that I'd like to see end any time soon. It doesn't have to pertain solely to Daniel Bryan's push.

 

[laodaron]

I was going to say what the guy above me said...

HHH stood in the center of the ring, and he gave Daniel Bryan a crash course in promos. And Daniel Bryan corpsed out, one more fucking time, and cut a terrible promo for RoH, let alone WWE. I'm pretty sure that he even used the cheap pop tactic of saying that the WWE ring belongs to the fans. /Puke.

Bryan might be a wrestler, and he might be a spot junkie, but there is nothing like the ability of a professional veteran to the game like HHH and even Stephanie to come out and cut a promo in the midst of the second biggest smark/jerk off crowd in the USA like the one they did.

This heat is pure and real, and only someone as strong as HHH and Stephanie could handle it.

I also agree that they need to expand the "Authority" presence. It needs to settle over Ziggler. They need to start screwing him over. Then they need to start incorporating screwing over more midcard face talent. They could really push this for quite some time, being true hell authority over all talent in the WWE, and not just over Daniel Bryan as the only way to make him seem believable in a main event capacity.

 

[Jonny B]

They are drawing genuine heat, because the fans are genuinely upset with the booking over the last few months.

In this day and age where literally everyone has access to sites like Wrestlezone where they can read about so called "backstage stories" about Triple H holding talent down etc... the fans are getting smarter on the one hand because they have access to this information, but dumber on the other because they don't vet the sources. The reason they are getting that type of heat is because people think that this is Triple H and Stephanie's actual opinion, and they read it on the Internet so it must be true... right?

I personally think Bryan vs. Triple H has more weight to it than Bryan being in the title match.

 

[Eddie Menuek]

I personally think Bryan vs. Triple H has more weight to it than Bryan being in the title match.

Absolutely. From Daniel Bryan's perspective, going over Triple H is a bigger deal than going over either one of, or both of Batista and Randy Orton. The issue is that since Summerslam, fans have fantasised about the 'Wrestlemania moment' of Bryan leading a 'yes' chant with the WWE Championship hanging from one of his hands. Defeating Triple H doesn't give him that moment but it demonstrates an even bigger investment in him from the company.

 

[Kodo Sawaki]

I like how they play their role. Finally they are heels and they embraced it, was preety anoying seeing them tweeners and for example booking 12vs3 match against Shield after all they did to Danyel Bryan. And they do heel role perfectly. That heat Stephanie get yesterday was pretty awesome...

And that feud with DB should off happen before Wrestlemania(for example RR) and DB could move on that title match. But HHH wrestles twice a year so I guess Wrestlemania is fitting place for match. And dont think Bryan has claims on that title match. He didnt even mentioned that even once though that maybe changes after all that fuss on main event on RAW...

 

[LoudClearVoice]

Seems to me that WWE have nobody to go to war with, so they are going to war with the WWE Universe.

Its okay, members of the IWC can piss and moan on forums about unhappy they are, and that they wont subscribe to the network and will stop watching Raw but they are kidding themselves and WWE knows this.

Last night the entire IWC and Chicago crowd were played for fools. WWE decided to embrace the Punk situation because they had no other choice. They put out a red herring to that fool Dave Meltzer!!!

Playing Punks music and sending out Heyman was a stroke of genius. It knocked the wind out of the crowds sails. They heard his music, they got what they wanted. The Usos then won the gold, another feel good factor. Finally the end segment had Triple H and Stephanie addressing the crowd with Daniel Bryan. The fans were not going to turn on Bryan so he was inserted for that very reason - and to further the storyline.

No hijacking. No walk out. Nothing. Just a load of pissed off fans who will still continue to watch!!!!

You're exactly right. The IWC complains up and down about how bad the product is and how if such and such happens, they won't watch any more but yet WWE is as profitable as ever and these fans continue to watch the product. WWE is taking advantage of this by doing what they want to do story and character-wise and not "listening" to the fans. By doing this, they're creating even more buzz and interest. I don't remember the crowds being this active, this divided in a LONG time. There's really no other competition (TNA is a joke and a half) so WWE can get away with this.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

I sort of like that. Go against your core fans. Seems a bit illogical because they are BUYING your product. Yet, like as stated by many in the past, WWE has this niche audience that never will go away. They will always watch through thick and thin. So no matter what WWE does, people will still watch. Going to war with your fans will gain greater outcry of responses and reactions. Smart idea on paper if it all works out and sales don't plummet.

They're getting more buzz on the internet and main stream sources than they ever have so I believe battling against the fans is actually working.

 

[thebigbadfox]

Absolutely. From Daniel Bryan's perspective, going over Triple H is a bigger deal than going over either one of, or both of Batista and Randy Orton. The issue is that since Summerslam, fans have fantasised about the 'Wrestlemania moment' of Bryan leading a 'yes' chant with the WWE Championship hanging from one of his hands. Defeating Triple H doesn't give him that moment but it demonstrates an even bigger investment in him from the company.

I agree whole heartedly with this statement.,.... but the issue is you cannot have 2 heels fight against each other in the main event of WMXXX.... So the question is who gets added to it... Bryan after beating HHH???? Cena??? A returning Superstar??? No one else really deserves that spot??

 

[rtking10]

I haven't seen heat like this towards a GM/COO since a Monday Night Raw in Austin a couple of years ago towards Vickie Guerrero. They were literally drowning out Stephanie and HHH.

 

[Trill Co$by]

In one of his many teaser videos, Jeff Jarrett said that wrestling in general is headed for another Boom period... and while it's going to mean more tempo fans... it's also going to be best for business. And I can't help to agree with him either.

The way I see it, CM Punk just turned himself into a Bret Hart which makes HHH the Vince and Daniel Bryan will become the Austin. Randy and Batista can fight over who's HBK and who's Dwayne...

I like what WWE's doing with Daniel Bryan though. Organically the "Yes Movement" is rising, so much so that it's got over 15,000 votes to be Lays' next chip in the "Do Us a Flavor" contest... [How does that work? Vegan flavored?] Fans from outside of WWE are even starting to catch on from football games to basketball games... even to marriage proposals. And as it catches on, people are going to start looking at WWE soon and by default, with HHH pushing against Daniel Bryan it's going to give HHH some heat.

HHH, right now, is the perfect villain for Bryan and Punk leaving only helped heighten that the same way Vince becoming Austin's villain after Bret left.

You add in the fact that matches and segments are feeling more organic and getting more time to develop, the WWE title finally down to one champion and even better we're getting decent reigns... then I have to say that when the Boom Period hits it's going to be one hell of a ride.

 

[Straightfromthehart]

They are simply playing the Vince role.

I do have a question though, to all those who talk about the wwe not giving the fans what they want.

When have they ever given the fans exactly what they want? I think the answer is never. And they never will. yes they'll give fans inevitable outcomes, such as Daniel Bryan eventually winning the title (and holding onto it for more than 24 hours). But they draw the stories out, yes some are scrapped all together but if you have guys who are over big with the crowd they will come out on top just not always immediately. How over was Austin, yet they decided to wait a whole year, he got the pop at mania vs hart, and they built him for a year before handing him the crown....it's called story telling. And that's what they do they tell stories, with many chapters, by delaying what you want it keeps you watching (bringing in cash). I'm new to the whole hhh in charge thing as didn't watch for a good few years, but it seems no different to any era.

 

[Wald]

I haven't hated a wrestler this much since Triple H in Evolution so they're doing something right. I genuinely wished death on him at times back then

 

[Rich the UK WWE Fan 2k14]

I haven't hated a wrestler this much since Triple H in Evolution so they're doing something right. I genuinely wished death on him at times back then

Oh come on, I've never liked HHH but even I wouldn't wish death on him, there's more to life than hating somebody as much as that.

I'm sure he's a right nice bloke in real life, but he plays a character who everybody's supposed to not like.

 

[SomethingWrestlingRelated]

They are absolutely drawing natural heat, HHH and Stephanie are also playing the roles PERFECTLY! It does help bearing in mind that they are up against the most well liked and over superstar in YEARS which basically turns everyone against them instantly! People can argue John Cena and they wouldnt be wrong necessarily but the whole crowd gets behind DB whereas Cena gets such a mixed reaction now. HHH and DB would arguably have a better match than the championship match, but like many of you have said that's not what the people want.


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