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Tara's the Biker Bitch?? No way!!! (Lulz...)

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TNA finally decided to unmask Tara on last night's episode of TNA Impact. Now we know that she's formed an alliance with Madison Rayne to try and take down the reformation of the original Beautiful People.

Sure, there's been speculation for months. And Tara's identity was as good of a secret as Jericho's return to the WWE during the "Save Us" campaign. But now it's all out in the open and the speculation begins... why has she paired up with Madison? It makes pretty much NO SENSE since Madison is the one that supposedly ended Tara's career in TNA before. So why would she pair up with Madison?

Let's hear your ideas, but make sure you give good explanations. No spamming allowed. And if you don't know the spamming rules, I suggest you all read them before you start posting.
 
I guess the only thing that would sort of make sense would be that Tara was seduced by promises of power by Madison, so they concocted a plan where Tara got "retired", allowing her to become Madison's secret "ace up the sleeve" in her battle against The Beautiful People. Although it doesn't seem to have played out like that.
 
Why did Tara side with Rayne? I don't know, but if I can take a guess the old saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Tara and Angelina have been rivals since her debut in TNA, and with Angelina as the face now, I can see why Tara would go heel.

Or maybe it's because she "needs a job" in terms of Kayfabe and since she couldn't get a direct contract, she went to be Madison's body guard instead.
 
You do realize they addressed this explanation directly on ReAction? I do not see why everyone claims this "makes no sense" anyway. I thought it made sense when I suggested something pretty similar in the how to bring Tara back thread and find it amusing that this of all things in wrestling is what makes no sense. There are plenty of sensical reasons for Tara to want to be back and with Madison, it just might be hard to think of them on a brain surviving on a wwe nutrition level. I mean Danielson came out attacked everything WWE and Cena and his first return is saving everything WWE and helping Cena? Makes perfect sense ...

I know you probably just want to bash WWE but Tara make sense just like Danielson made sense. Danielson was kicked out of the Nexus and waited for his chances. for Tara I didn't watch TNA Reaction yet, but my guess would be that if Madison retired her, Madison can bring her back if she help her, or it could have been a "plan" all along.
 
You do realize they addressed this explanation directly on ReAction?

Actually, I didn't. Hence my reason for creating this thread. But I guess that would be hard to think of on a brain surviving on a TNA nutrition level. (See, it doesn't feel very good to hear that now, does it?)

I do not see why everyone claims this "makes no sense" anyway. I thought it made sense when I suggested something pretty similar in the how to bring Tara back thread and find it amusing that this of all things in wrestling is what makes no sense.

Ok, let's break it down. Madison ends Tara's career. So in return, Tara is brought back as her... um... bodyguard?? Yeah, that makes total sense.

There are plenty of sensical reasons for Tara to want to be back and with Madison

I'm still waiting to hear one. But feel free to continue to spam up the thread.

I mean Danielson came out attacked everything WWE and Cena and his first return is saving everything WWE and helping Cena? Makes perfect sense ...

Um.... huh?? I am honestly having trouble reading the direction of that sentence. Your grammar is horrific. I'm assuming that you're saying that Daniel Bryan's return to the WWE made no sense?

Normally, I'd say that is a subject for a different thread. But I'll humor your dumb ass like I always do when you spew out this bullshit.

Daniel Bryan was viciously attacked by Nexus, had beef with the Miz, and was a hero on NXT. His comeback at Summerslam was for revenge on Nexus, a chance to upstage the Miz, and to continue his role as a hero. Now how does this compare to a babyface TNA Knockout who played a tweener before her departure and put her career on the line against a women who defeated her and then became her best friend and bodyguard only months later??
 
You are watching TNA. A wrestling federation that believes the DUDL... "Team 3-D" can be faces/heels 5 times out a year. TNA do not know what they are doing. It's pointless.

1.You have Madison Rayne tagging up with the girl she took out of wrestling.

2.You have Angelina and Velvet forming an alliance, but Angelina purpose was to discontinue the group she created?

3.Madison and Velvet formed an alliance after Angelina and Velvet whipped Madison ass. Then Madison and Velvet are a team again, because Angelina visaa card expire? WTF is that.

TNA storylines are for the birds. I hate them. It the worst thing on television. That is why Lance Storm don't watch it. Russo and Dutch is killing it. Hogan and Bischoff don't say enough to do anything and Dixie is nothing but a smut getting involved on TV to be famous. That is why the story sucks!!!
 
Are you serious? There doesn't need to be a reason for Tara to team up with Madison Rayne. But don't worry! It's not anything as psychologically complex as "enemy of my enemy is my friend", it's just bad writing!

And to be fair, the Jericho return thing was a greater secret than this. At least for me; there was always some doubt as to what "SAVE_US.222" meant, whereas WrestleZone featured Tommy Dreamer totally blowing it on Twitter.
 
Actually, I didn't. Hence my reason for creating this thread.

The point is if you are not familiar with the entire product then why create a thread bashing the storylines not making sense? If you do not follow it closely of course things are not always going to perfectly add up. There is this crazy concept called a swerve in wrestling booking. Some people have had some success with it. The whole point of a swerve is that the obvious thing does not happen and it is surprising. Thus, keeping the audience interested in what happens next (the explanation etc.). So if I had created a thread asking why Nexus did it, because it makes no sense to me, after they had already "explained" their actions, you would not have called me out on it?

I'm still waiting to hear one. But feel free to continue to spam up the thread.

Ah yes the D-Man "spam" AKA disagreeing or making d-man look mentally mortal. How is my post spam? You did the thing you always do where the post is "spam," but then you quote and respond to it. How does that make any sense? In fact, you did not even cite it as spam but conveniently deleted it. Abuse of power 101 IMO.


Daniel Bryan was viciously attacked by Nexus, had beef with the Miz, and was a hero on NXT. His comeback at Summerslam was for revenge on Nexus, a chance to upstage the Miz, and to continue his role as a hero. Now how does this compare to a babyface TNA Knockout who played a tweener before her departure and put her career on the line against a women who defeated her and then became her best friend and bodyguard only months later??

I'd agree it is for another post but let us look at your twisted logic. Bryan viciously attacked by nexus? Not exactly. Oneish vagueish mention of such a thing and no video. Someone could easily casually follow the product and miss such a development. Being a "hero" on NXT meant shit after the invasion angle. Would Gabriel have made sense there too? I am not saying there are not reasons Bryan made sense there. What I am saying is if you want to be a dick about it he made as much sense as this does. The last time he was in a wwe ring he was the most vicious assaulter of all things wwe and cena. I could see him coming back after Miz but why does he want to help WWE? Why is he Cena's boy all of a sudden? These are the things people call plot holes in TNA.

Just like in that situation and the Tara one. Sometimes things on the business side mess up the booking and you have to make the best of it. The result will not be perfect kayfabe-wise but it is a reality of the wrestling business that pops up from time to time. Only people with an axe to grind obsess about it. I'd assume your argument for Bryan and Cena is something like the enemy of my enemy is my friend. So your whole haven't heard any explanations for Tara yet just confirms your selective reading and lack of knowledge of TNAs product. Straight line laid out a few perfectly acceptable reasons including that one. Tara had tons of beef with Love right up until Madison "retired" her. You also might remember Madison insisted on no interference in the retirement match, showing an uncharacteristic respect for Tara. Not to mention Tara has handled Love before, and needed work, while Sky and Lacey were proving to be little help to Madison against Love.
 
You are right on the money D-Man, it doesn't make any sense. But they needed a way to bring Tara back. Since the knockout division has talented wrestlers but The Beautiful people are the only ones that ever get a story line/ promo time.

So creative put together a "well thought out crappy scenario" and presto the rest is history. I mean they could have brought Tara back to get revenge on Hamada for taking her egg flower soup. But that would be even more non sense.

A more logical idea would at least have Tara back up Angelina Love. But creative so desperately wanted to get Love and Sky back together with the break from Rayne. That the old story line and New story line over lapped, which TNA is famous for. Its like they forget about past feuds that haven't even been expired 3 months. An example, with out getting to detailed. Mr Anderson and Angle. Anderson wanted to end Angles career and put on a fantastic match the supposedly left Angles career undecided and put him at the bottom of the TNA roster. Now they are in a tournament together. But what, he doesn't want to destroy Angle anymore because he has turned face?

In summation TNA creative doesn't let story lines drift away so they are out of our minds long enough, which is why they get the over lap of feuds and alliances that make no sense.
 
re: shattered dreams; there is one differnce between the Tara angle and the Bryan angle. After Bryan was "fired" Nexus came out and said "Daniel Bryan will never be seen again because he had reservations about what we did and we kicked him out". This cost him his contract with WWE (kayfabe) and instantly gives him a reason to want revenge on Nexus. Pointing out his reservations immediately lessens the fact that he was involved in the attack on Cena (to some degree) and his history with The Miz adds more believability by wanting to upstage the Miz at Summer Slam.

With the Tara situation she lost a 'lose and retire" match and then, for no apparent reason comes back to help the person that "retired" her.

I too didn't watch Reaction last night, so if anyone wants to point out what was explained it would be appreciated.

Finally, when I think of a swerve I usually think of something that I didn't see coming, not something that is completely non-sensical.
 
A more logical idea would at least have Tara back up Angelina Love. But creative so desperately wanted to get Love and Sky back together with the break from Rayne. That the old story line and New story line over lapped, which TNA is famous for. Its like they forget about past feuds that haven't even been expired 3 months. An example, with out getting to detailed. Mr Anderson and Angle. Anderson wanted to end Angles career and put on a fantastic match the supposedly left Angles career undecided and put him at the bottom of the TNA roster. Now they are in a tournament together. But what, he doesn't want to destroy Angle anymore because he has turned face?

Yeah, TNA forgets about those not so long ago feuds. Kind of like that feud between Tara and Love. Or was that you that forgot? Anyway, if you think TNA has totally forgotten about the Anderson-Angle feud then you clearly are not paying much attention to the product or one of the least discerning viewers of all-time. Putting Tara with Angelina would have been a total fail. They hated each other before Tara got "retired" and Madison could just come out and say I retired you, leave. Storyline over. That definitely would have been the most logical course :banghead:
 
Looking for sense in TNA booking is pointless; remember Eric Young and The Band? Kevin Nash turning on Hall and Waltman so that he could team up with Eric Young, who he would betray so he could team up with Hall and Waltman? The hardcore TNA marks still think of this as a masterful double swerve, and fortunately for TNA, most of them are so ignorant as to think the fact that they can't understand the storylines means that the storylines must be so complex and well thought out that they're just going over their heads. There's money in that bottom 10%.

It's impulse-shock booking. If you're looking to see where this story fits in with the stories told over the past six months, you're going to be left wanting. (Or, constructing crazy scenarios, like a bunch of businessmen from Florida who are only known on dirt sheets are plotting to take over TNA. Y'know.)

But TBP haven't been interesting since last year, anyways. The gimmick got stale, and TNA thinks that having two hot blonds go to ringside and stick out their asses is enough to cover for that. (Note to TNA bookers: In the age of the internet, there are much better places to look for tits and ass then a professional wrestling ring. You took your great knockouts division and reduced it to WWE Divas who can actually wrestle.)
 
Yeah, TNA forgets about those not so long ago feuds. Kind of like that feud between Tara and Love. Or was that you that forgot? Anyway, if you think TNA has totally forgotten about the Anderson-Angle feud then you clearly are not paying much attention to the product or one of the least discerning viewers of all-time. Putting Tara with Angelina would have been a total fail. They hated each other before Tara got "retired" and Madison could just come out and say I retired you, leave. Storyline over. That definitely would have been the most logical course :banghead:


I didn't forget about the Tara, Love feud. But as I stated they put together this idea to so they could bring Tara back not me. I said a more logical would atleast have her backup Love. I didn't say it made sense or was the best idea either. But out of the two, lets pick. The person that retired me that I hated or the person I just hated? Lets see I get fired from work by my supervisor, a month later he is in hot water, so he calls me up to have his back as a character witness. I would tell him you kidding me, fuck off.

Yes neither story line would really work, but what else could they do, nothing because the beautiful people are the only ones that get air time other than wrestling. Also I'm glad, I have no problem looking at velvet sky all day long.

The feud between Angle and Mr Anderson might be going on because of the tournament. But the fire that it had is not the same, sorry but thats where you fail. Angle working his way up the ranks had a good thing going.

Anyway I get your point, but you have to admit both scenarios for the ladies don't make logical sense but it was the only road they could take.
 
The point is if you are not familiar with the entire product then why create a thread bashing the storylines not making sense?

I watch every week. I guess I missed the little explanation on Reaction.

There is this crazy concept called a swerve in wrestling booking. Some people have had some success with it. The whole point of a swerve is that the obvious thing does not happen and it is surprising. Thus, keeping the audience interested in what happens next (the explanation etc.). So if I had created a thread asking why Nexus did it, because it makes no sense to me, after they had already "explained" their actions, you would not have called me out on it?

I was a moderator of the WWE section and had to listen to criticism like this all the time, especially during their down period. It's not my fault that you're ********* over the question that I asked the posters. But God forbid I begin a discussion about something having to do with TNA.

Ah yes the D-Man "spam" AKA disagreeing or making d-man look mentally mortal. How is my post spam? You did the thing you always do where the post is "spam," but then you quote and respond to it. How does that make any sense? In fact, you did not even cite it as spam but conveniently deleted it. Abuse of power 101 IMO.

Your post was mostly a rant on me personally with about two sentences that barely touched upon the subject at hand. And those sentences gave opinions without reasons. Therefore, your post was reported and ruled to be extremely borderline. I did you a favor by deleting it without infracting you. But that's abuse of power, right?

Do yourself a favor... learn our rules a little better and shut your fucking mouth before you making asinine accusations.

I'd agree it is for another post but let us look at your twisted logic. Bryan viciously attacked by nexus? Not exactly. Oneish vagueish mention of such a thing and no video.

First of all, Isn't "Oneish Vagueish" a German ska band? Oops, my mistake. It's just your horrific grammar again.

Secondly, I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that. My apologies. Bryan was kicked out of the group without an attack.

Someone could easily casually follow the product and miss such a development. Being a "hero" on NXT meant shit after the invasion angle. Would Gabriel have made sense there too? I am not saying there are not reasons Bryan made sense there. What I am saying is if you want to be a dick about it he made as much sense as this does. The last time he was in a wwe ring he was the most vicious assaulter of all things wwe and cena. I could see him coming back after Miz but why does he want to help WWE? Why is he Cena's boy all of a sudden? These are the things people call plot holes in TNA.

Only people with an axe to grind obsess about it. I'd assume your argument for Bryan and Cena is something like the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Cena tucked his pride aside and enrolled the help of Edge, Jericho, and even the Miz in order to protect the greater-good of WWE Raw. Enlisting Bryan into that group made perfect sense afterwards. So what was Tara's reason for joining up with the woman that retired her? Purely speculation right now. Hence, the reason why I created this thread.

Just like in that situation and the Tara one. Sometimes things on the business side mess up the booking and you have to make the best of it. The result will not be perfect kayfabe-wise but it is a reality of the wrestling business that pops up from time to time.

So you're admitting TNA's bad booking here?

So your whole haven't heard any explanations for Tara yet just confirms your selective reading and lack of knowledge of TNAs product.

No, I'd blame it on them not doing a good enough job of making me understand it. But I'm sure we'll get an explanation next week. And I guess you missed the purpose of this thread. I wanted everyone to give their own opinions on why this transpired. If I missed it on Reaction then just post it in here. The fact that you have a sandy vagina over it makes you look like the total imbecile that you are.

Straight line laid out a few perfectly acceptable reasons including that one. Tara had tons of beef with Love right up until Madison "retired" her. You also might remember Madison insisted on no interference in the retirement match, showing an uncharacteristic respect for Tara. Not to mention Tara has handled Love before, and needed work, while Sky and Lacey were proving to be little help to Madison against Love.

Congratulations. You just properly contributed to this thread.

Feel free to reply again. I often enjoy verbally urinating and defecating on your horrible debates and dogshit logic.
 
What I don't like is that some poster here are saying "Yes it makes sense it was explained there and there" but still keep people out of the loop by not explaining what was said. I will watch Reaction in a couple of minutes/hours so if he didn't let people know how it was explained on Reaction I will comeback to tell you.

But like I said if Madison retires her, to me it's logical that Madison can bring her back.
 
Well, I have a different perspective.......sort of.

Yes, I think that it's poor writing and a bad move because it makes no sense. However what should have happened was the should have had Madison attempt to "reform" TBP with another non-TNA member, after Sky and Love rejoined. Maybe try to pry away an ex-"E" diva like a Mickie James (just throwing a random name out there).

Then build a PPV match for the rights to the name and music.

I'm not one for "bodyguards" or Tara/Victoria for that matter. She does sell me.

What does sell me is Madison, Velvet, and Angelina's asses :-) Von Eric had a smokin one too.
 
Even Tazz and Mike Tenay couldnt pretend to be surprised which made me laugh my ass off. Kayfabe-wise this makes no sense, Tara Helping the person that got her fired essentally, I mean would u help the person that got u fired?

It seems like his was a way to A) get the original BPs together and B) Bring Tara back after the retirement was preempted by Dixie
 
Your post was mostly a rant on me personally with about two sentences that barely touched upon the subject at hand. And those sentences gave opinions without reasons. Therefore, your post was reported and ruled to be extremely borderline. I did you a favor by deleting it without infracting you. But that's abuse of power, right?

I just think it is odd when you say my post is so off-topic, or whatever, for a thread that it needs to be deleted, yet you then choose to respond to each point it made in the same thread. I also dispute that my first post was an attack specifically on you but I can understand your thin skin because of the way things usually work around here. My main point is if you are going to delete my posts then do not respond to them. It only seems fair but maybe I am mistaken. Especially since the response seems to validate the relevance. This is not the first time you have done this to me while we are debating/discussing a topic.

So you're admitting TNA's bad booking here?

No. I am explaining the difference between bad booking and the reality of external influences. For example Orton got hurt so WWE had to scramble so some things are not going to be seamless and the storylines might not be perfect. This is not exactly bad booking as much as unfortunate circumstances. Stuff like this happens all the time. Bad booking is poor decisions when they had unlimited choices. As has been discussed, there was no great option for bringing Tara back so they have to make the best of it. It is not perfect but claiming it makes absolutely no sense is purely an opinion that IMO shows a lack of imagination. How can anyone except the person who retired someone bring them back?

On ReAction it was left somewhat ambiguous if Tara and Madison planned this all along. The descriptions leaned heavily towards no though. They left some of Tara's motivations and what she has been up to vague and I suspect that could prove to be intentional. What that means is maybe Tara is working Madison but that is not how it was portrayed (I do not know why no one considers this possibility when talking about what makes sense). Essentially Tara earned Madison's respect through taking her to her limit and beating Love on multiple occasions. So when Madison needed some backup that is where she went. Tara had some time off but wanted to be back in the ring where she belonged. It appears Madison earned some of Tara's respect both by beating her and through her recent success. Tara has long standing conflict with TBP and especially Love as has been mentioned. Now she has her own BP by her side and they are going to kick some ass and run the place while taking out their common enemies. The retirement match was just business and they both did what they had to do then.
 
Clearly, Tara is scared of Madison.

If ya can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Seriously though...I chalk it up to lousy writing and what almost seems like a continued burial of the Knockouts division.
 
I figure perhaps this is how it goes. Sounds like some crap my daughter goes through on a regular basis.

Tara hates Angelina
Tara hates Madison
Madison retires Tara

Now in order to have any chance at revenge Tara needs a way to get reinstated.

Tara sees Madison needs a friend now that Angelina has taken out both Lacey and Velvet, with Velvet leaving Madison to join Angelina leaving Lacey in limbo but she'll probably side with the BP's.

Madison desperate makes a deal for Tara to watch her back, eneny of my enemy and all that..not realizing that's exactly what Tara wanted.

Tara helps herself back into TNA since the person who retired her says she wants to undo it, the KO title scene and to a piece of both Madison and Angelina's ass(sounds like a damn good idea for lunch but i digress), reforming the whole BP stable and establishing Tara as TNA's top bitch

not so complicated to me..
 
OMG WATCH TNA REACTION, all your questions are answered there

Madison said that no one had ever taken her to the limit like Tara had, she said that Tara brought the best out of her, and when she had to deal with Angelina, she knew who she had to go to for help, a woman to hated Angelina as much as she did, TARA. The retirement match was not fixed my Madison and Tara, Madison beat her fair and square and retired her. Tara also said she couldn't stay away, she couldn't stand Angelina taking over the division, she wanted her revenge, and what better way than to align herself with Rayne as a mystery woman, messing with angelina's head

It's not complicated at all
 
Glad to see her back. She's a very underrated wrestler. But at the same time, who actually cares? I really don't think anyone has cared about the Diva's and Knockout division in years. When they come out people rush to get food or go to the bathroom.
 
My main point is if you are going to delete my posts then do not respond to them.

Let me think about that one. Ok, no.

If you want to play with fire them prepare to be burned. I will NEVER sit back and allow someone like you to just spit out nonsense, verbally attack me and my views, and they play it off like what you did was right and justified without giving a response; spam or non-spam.

Moving on...

No. I am explaining the difference between bad booking and the reality of external influences. For example Orton got hurt so WWE had to scramble so some things are not going to be seamless and the storylines might not be perfect. This is not exactly bad booking as much as unfortunate circumstances. Stuff like this happens all the time. Bad booking is poor decisions when they had unlimited choices.

This is a good and valid point. Now let's try to make the connection with the subject at hand.

As has been discussed, there was no great option for bringing Tara back so they have to make the best of it. It is not perfect but claiming it makes absolutely no sense is purely an opinion that IMO shows a lack of imagination. How can anyone except the person who retired someone bring them back?

Cartoons require imagination, too. But I'm not going to sit here and drop an ACME anvil on Madison Rayne's head unless it makes sense.

You want to know how to bring back a person that was retired from wrestling? Try watching the Randy Savage vs Jake Roberts storyline. At the time, the WWE had Savage sitting behind an announcers desk. Yet somehow, they made perfect logic by utilizing Jake's crazed character and had him playing mind games with Randy and Elizabeth. This (plus a vicious attack) caused Randy to get reinstated.

Good writing makes good storylines. Lazy writing makes lazy storylines. Cena's use of Daniel Bryan in the Summerslam match made perfect sense, considering the recruiting of his other enemies in order to serve a common purpose. However, having Tara suddenly appear for weeks as a masked motorcycle woman really explained nothing until last night's Reaction. That's my take on it.

On ReAction it was left somewhat ambiguous if Tara and Madison planned this all along. The descriptions leaned heavily towards no though. They left some of Tara's motivations and what she has been up to vague and I suspect that could prove to be intentional.

So what exactly happened?? It's already been established that not all of the posters in this thread saw Reaction. Please enlighten us as to how you came up with these conclusions.

EDIT: Saritafan enlightened us. Thank you, Saritafan.

What that means is maybe Tara is working Madison but that is not how it was portrayed (I do not know why no one considers this possibility when talking about what makes sense). Essentially Tara earned Madison's respect through taking her to her limit and beating Love on multiple occasions. So when Madison needed some backup that is where she went. Tara had some time off but wanted to be back in the ring where she belonged. It appears Madison earned some of Tara's respect both by beating her and through her recent success. Tara has long standing conflict with TBP and especially Love as has been mentioned. Now she has her own BP by her side and they are going to kick some ass and run the place while taking out their common enemies. The retirement match was just business and they both did what they had to do then.

FINALLY. A logical explanation.

Ok, I get it. So basically they've reused a storyline that's been done a billion times:

Wrestler #1 feuds with Wrestler #2
Wrestler #1 beats Wrestler #2
Wrestler #2 disappears for a bit (or stays on TV)
Wrestler #2 decides to join with Wrestler #1 out of some kind of unspoken respect in order to swerve fans

Yeah, real original. Too bad Austin/HHH beat them to it. So did Jericho/Stephanie McMahon, Austin/Vince, Rock/Vince, Taker/Vince... should I go on??

For a company that claims they are on the "cutting edge", they sure know how to recycle storylines from other promotions. Hence, your typical Russo booking.
 
Let me think about that one. Ok, no.

If you want to play with fire them prepare to be burned. I will NEVER sit back and allow someone like you to just spit out nonsense, verbally attack me and my views, and they play it off like what you did was right and justified without giving a response; spam or non-spam.

Moving on...



This is a good and valid point. Now let's try to make the connection with the subject at hand.



Cartoons require imagination, too. But I'm not going to sit here and drop an ACME anvil on Madison Rayne's head unless it makes sense.

You want to know how to bring back a person that was retired from wrestling? Try watching the Randy Savage vs Jake Roberts storyline. At the time, the WWE had Savage sitting behind an announcers desk. Yet somehow, they made perfect logic by utilizing Jake's crazed character and had him playing mind games with Randy and Elizabeth. This (plus a vicious attack) caused Randy to get reinstated.

Good writing makes good storylines. Lazy writing makes lazy storylines. Cena's use of Daniel Bryan in the Summerslam match made perfect sense, considering the recruiting of his other enemies in order to serve a common purpose. However, having Tara suddenly appear for weeks as a masked motorcycle woman really explained nothing until last night's Reaction. That's my take on it.



So what exactly happened?? It's already been established that not all of the posters in this thread saw Reaction. Please enlighten us as to how you came up with these conclusions.

EDIT: Saritafan enlightened us. Thank you, Saritafan.



FINALLY. A logical explanation.

Ok, I get it. So basically they've reused a storyline that's been done a billion times:

Wrestler #1 feuds with Wrestler #2
Wrestler #1 beats Wrestler #2
Wrestler #2 disappears for a bit (or stays on TV)
Wrestler #2 decides to join with Wrestler #1 out of some kind of unspoken respect in order to swerve fans

Yeah, real original. Too bad Austin/HHH beat them to it. So did Jericho/Stephanie McMahon, Austin/Vince, Rock/Vince, Taker/Vince... should I go on??

For a company that claims they are on the "cutting edge", they sure know how to recycle storylines from other promotions. Hence, your typical Russo booking.

Man, seems like you need to calm down a little bit... Wrestling has been going on for decades and you expect that you won't see basic booking repeat itself from time to time?

Did you get this mad when WWE recycled the angle 5 or 6 times or was that okay, because it wasn't Russo booking it?

The storyline is not that complex and actually makes sense, they have a mutual respect and mutual enemy... Madison retired her, she should be the only one who could reinstate her except for maybe Dixie Carter... Which wouldn't make sense if they wanted her to return heel...

I really don't get why people who hate TNA are always making threads just to bash it... I mean, they said on Impact more than once that the story would be explained on ReAction, some choose not to watch but insist on downgrading TNA for lack of logic, when you yourself said it's been done in wrestling (not just WWE) for decades... So, someone must have seen the logic in it somewhere... Mutual respect, mutual enemy... With all the other confusing angle going on in TNA, I think they made the right call keeping this one simple...

Oh yea, was it just my wishful thinking or did anyone else sense that they might be doing some sort of lesbian attraction angle??
 
This is a good and valid point. Now let's try to make the connection with the subject at hand.

Do you know anything about TNA? The connection is the contract situation and subsequent agreement involving Tara. That is why they booked the retirement angle to begin with.

Cartoons require imagination, too. But I'm not going to sit here and drop an ACME anvil on Madison Rayne's head unless it makes sense.

So very on-topic, this must be the point in the discussion where D-man changes everything so he can appear to be less wrong in his blind biased comments. And right on cue...

You want to know how to bring back a person that was retired from wrestling? Try watching the Randy Savage vs Jake Roberts storyline. At the time, the WWE had Savage sitting behind an announcers desk. Yet somehow, they made perfect logic by utilizing Jake's crazed character and had him playing mind games with Randy and Elizabeth. This (plus a vicious attack) caused Randy to get reinstated.

So because they did not copy and live up to one great storyline this is a failure? Say what? Especially when you end your post criticizing them for copying? Make up you mind, are we talking about if this storyline makes sense or if it was great. Should or should not TNA copy things from the past?

So what exactly happened?? It's already been established that not all of the posters in this thread saw Reaction. Please enlighten us as to how you came up with these conclusions.

That whole paragraph was the ReAction recap, why else would I be saying things like it was portrayed like etc. I am starting to think my "grammar problems" are your reading comprehension issues.

Ok, I get it. So basically they've reused a storyline that's been done a billion times:

Wrestler #1 feuds with Wrestler #2
Wrestler #1 beats Wrestler #2
Wrestler #2 disappears for a bit (or stays on TV)
Wrestler #2 decides to join with Wrestler #1 out of some kind of unspoken respect in order to swerve fans

Yeah, real original. Too bad Austin/HHH beat them to it. So did Jericho/Stephanie McMahon, Austin/Vince, Rock/Vince, Taker/Vince... should I go on??

For a company that claims they are on the "cutting edge", they sure know how to recycle storylines from other promotions. Hence, your typical Russo booking.

And the train has finally left the tracks. This was never about originality or cutting edge. It was yet another D-man attempt to belittle TNA. Like most of those threads once it is pointed out how wrong he is (in this case about the story not making any sense) then he simple chooses a different criticism instead of defending his point. If this storyline arc has been done so many times how were you so convinced it made zero sense? Chinese riddle for ya. Probably the even greater riddle is how you are blind to the danielson scenario obviously fitting your recycled mold. It is also amusing how you criticize russo for using ideas from other promotions, like he did not write many of those stories originally.

Whatever, I'll let you tell me why this is spam and we were all "wrong" about the thread topic all along now.

Oh yeah jccool there did certainly seem to be some lesbian overtones between madison and tara and the way TBP were talking about them added to it. Will TNA actually go there? Controversy creates cash right?
 

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