Sting is the *NEW* TNA World Heavyweight Champion

[Bigrog25]

Styles has drawing power and angle doesn't? HAHAHAHAHA!!! I love styles don't get me wrong, but the IWC really needs to get off his dick, the man hasn't drawn shit. Once again he's one of my favs, just stating facts here.

 

[GrandSword]

Total TNA logic old guy who's best year of drawing money was 15 years when instead of wrestling he was hanging out in rafters. They have a group of guys on their roster who aren't green, who aren't that young, who might be able to draw TNA more money than Sting, Van Dam, Jarrett, Angle, Ray, and Hardy but for whatever reason are afraid to get serious about it. Nikita in Crockett, Warrior in the WWF, Tommy Rich in GCW, RNR Express in Mid-South and Crockett, Von Erichs in World Class, and Roadwarriors in GCW, and AWA, AllJapan, Crockett at the same time were all green and young and drew money. People in wrestling used to know you need new guys in the main event because the same guys constantly can only draw for so long.

Sting is bringing it, your saying his best years are behind him. Maybe just maybe instead of coming to this conclusion you watch the show and realise that Sting unlike his WCW days is actally bringing it like no other right now.

He is more enteraining than he has been in years and his new Joker character is taking him and TNA to a new level.

Let's put it this way, Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry at the age of 40 was awesome. But I would have to say one of his finest performances was in Unforgiven when he was almost 60. He got better with age.

Some people say hey, Sting is 52, therefore he's shit. But if you've been paying attention, you'd see that Sting has decided to say "screw them, my best days are not behind me. I'm going to go all out, balls to the wall and make this run as memorable as when I was 25..." and good on him.

The Stinger is awesome right now, is blowing the everyone else in the industry be it in TNA or WWE and the only one who can hold a candle to him right now is CM Punk.

Screw the haters, Go Sting!

 

[The Death Rattle]

I totally support the move tonight. First and foremost, Sting is currently the most over and compelling wrestler in TNA right now. His character is an interesting development in his bid to stay relevant in wrestling today. I loved Crow Sting so much, but that time has come and gone. Not everything has worked with Joker Sting, but it is can't miss television due to the unpredictable nature of the character. And hell, I love me some Joker.

Who else is there to promote to this spot right now? You could have gone Angle, which they still might, but the focus has been on Sting later. Booking wise, it has logical undertones. There simply aren't many wrestlers in TNA who could realistically be considered a true main event guy. Hogan doesn't wrestle, Styles has been a bit of an afterthought, RVD isn't getting it back, and guys like Abyss, Crimson, Jeff Jarrett, and Matt Morgan simply aren't there.

Lastly, it is time to do away with Immortal. It is nothing more then a vehicle to get Hogan and Bischoff air time. The angle has been dead in the water since Hardy's implosion, adding Anderson was a band-aid. I like Mr. Anderson a lot, have since his Kennedy days. The cold, hard truth is he isn't over enough to be carrying the top belt in the promotion right now. He had something going earlier with the genesis of his "asshole" gimmick, but booking has buried all that progress.

It's easy to be critical of TNA, as I myself have been many times before. I still can't believe they blew "10-10-10". That being said, Joker Sting is a breath of fresh air and I am interested where they go from here.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Let's see, listen to itsoeasy's WWE mark ass, or listen to the numbers and how the fans react to Sting. The way I see it, Sting has been in just about every Main Event from the last month or so, and the Quarter Hours that come out show that his matches/segments are the highest rated portion of the show for the most part. He's also a part of the Immortal/Sting storyline which also draws the best numbers consistently.

People care about it. Not the smarks and the trolls. People care about Sting. Again, not the smarks and the trolls. For the smarks Sting is 52 and past his prime. The same person who cuts the best promos of the night and just last Thursday wrestled as a 30 years old man, not 52. How many 52 years olds can do a flawless standing dropkick like he did? Not too many, I know that much.

Right now Sting is WHITE hot. The fans are going crazy about him, he's fresh, he's reinvented, he's the man in TNA regardless of his age, and I for one am GLAD he got the belt back. I'm more glad it's off Anderson too.

Sit back, swallow your Internet egos and enjoy the show because Sting is bringing it every single Thursday. If you don't like it, turn it off and don't bitch about it because TRUST me, you won't accomplish anything by doing so, and you don't sound extremely smart either with your "Give it to the young guys" bullshit.

Sting out-draws ANY of the homegrown/young guys. That's what your World Champion should be for. That's why Cena's in the Main Event all the time. When's the last time he gave it to the young guys? Sheamus? Yeah, he did SO well with it, didn't he? The young/homegrown guys are still on the card and being showcased as often as possible. What is it with the IWC? Can't you enjoy Robert Roode or AJ Styles without a fucking belt around their waist?

 

[The Naitchhh]

HE is selfish for never giving us matches with the Undertaker, Stone Cold and HBK..... Sting has been a big fish in a Small pond for a long time... give it up dude.. let RVD shine

 

[Cracka Jack]

Not really sure why Anderson dropped the title so soon after winning it. I didn't exactly love him as a heel, but it seemed way too early for him to lose it. I mean, why did they have him beat Sting for it only to lose it back to him right away? Hopefully there's a long-term plan in place for Sting as champion. Maybe they have some big feud in mind for him (please not Hogan). Angle probably shouldn't win the title, what with him leaving for the Olympic trials pretty soon. I'd like to see him keep it until Bound For Glory and put over whoever wins the BFG Series, maybe Roode or Crimson. That would be the best way to use Sting at this point.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Not really sure why Anderson dropped the title so soon after winning it. I didn't exactly love him as a heel, but it seemed way too early for him to lose it. I mean, why did they have him beat Sting for it only to lose it back to him right away? Hopefully there's a long-term plan in place for Sting as champion. Maybe they have some big feud in mind for him (please not Hogan). Angle probably shouldn't win the title, what with him leaving for the Olympic trials pretty soon. I'd like to see him keep it until Bound For Glory and put over whoever wins the BFG Series, maybe Roode or Crimson. That would be the best way to use Sting at this point.

You have to take into consideration the fact that wrestling companies don't have everything prepared storyline by storyline with a designated start at finish as the year begins. A lot of it is gamble, and that's what Anderson was.

His first title reign flopped, he didn't improve with it but instead kept on coasting. He won the belt from Hardy, he lost the belt to Hardy.

This was his second chance to shine. He didn't. Same deal. Coasting. He won the belt from Sting, he lost the belt to Sting. I'm pretty sure TNA has made their mind up about Anderson. He sucks. That's all there is to it. He was amazing when he came to TNA. Fired up, passionate, and it reflected in his work. Now? I think he became full of himself because he got a lot of attention when he jumped to TNA and expects people to treat him like before just because he's Anderson. Don't work that way. Right now, to me, he's no different than Samoa Joe. He deserves no less either. When he steps his game up, when he really shines, give him the belt and let him run with it. As of right now I'm glad he lost it because it wasn't working. It always works with Stinger.

TNA gave Anderson the ball. He didn't run with it. They took it away. They're not in the wrong here. Maybe you could blame them for giving Anderson the belt in the first place and that's a point I can respect.

As far as Sting goes - don't be surprised if Angle wins at HardCore Justice. Sting and Hogan are feuding and all evidence points to a possible Sting-Hogan match. If they face off at BFG there is NO WAY it will be for the belt, because that title shot goes to the winner of the BFG series.

That being said, with the current Hogan Sting feud and his upcoming defense against Angle, it seems like Sting will drop it to Angle so he can have a match with Hogan, and Angle will have a fantastic match against the winner of the BFG series. If that's the case, I'm hoping to GOD AJ wins. I don't even care if AJ walks out with the belt, I care about the match.

As far as the whole Olympics thing, no worries. If Sting can have great runs with the belt on the schedule he's at, so can Kurt. Kurt won't do house shows, and he only has to work 5 days of the month. 4 Impact Wrestling shows and one Pay-Per-View. No matter how crazy his schedule is, he'll work around it.

Either way, the belt will suffer until BFG, that can't be avoided, and it's partially TNA's fault for having Anderson be the Champ, and Anderson's fault for sucking. If he didn't suck they wouldn't have to have him lose. If they didn't put the belt on him, Sting would've never lost and all of this would've been avoided.

Shit happens. A lot. And frequently.

 

[Daniel]

I hate short title reigns. Title changes are supposed to be exciting and game changing, short reigns take away some of the excitement. This year, TNA have had six reigns (five changes) this year. We're in the seventh month of the year. Erm, what the bullshit is this?

I'm very indifferent to Mr. Anderson. Very indifferent. But his title run has been OK. Considering that because of Destination X, his reign hasn't completely at the forefront of TNA programming, it's been decent. He's done the right things. TNA have booked him like shit. Which like I say, is somewhat understandable considering Destination X taking place.

And as for Sting winning it, um... cool? I'm liking what Sting is doing at the moment. Even though he is shamelessly ripping off a comic book character, it's very good. He still wrestles to a sub-par standard. But hey, you can't have everything, right? (Well wrong, actually. AJ Styles, Samoa Joe and Magnus have everything but are doing fuck all). I think Sting is "white hot". It's really hard to tell with the amount of canned heat they have on Impact Wrestling.

Can't you enjoy Robert Roode or AJ Styles without a fucking belt around their waist?

You see where you're going wrong with this bit, right? Can't you enjoy Sting without a belt around his waist?

 

[Zeven_Zion]

You see where you're going wrong with this bit, right? Can't you enjoy Sting without a belt around his waist?

I most certainly can. But I'm not going to sit here and whine for 15 minutes about how he is or isn't like every other person on this forum moaning when someone not named AJ Styles or Robert Roode gets "the big one".

I really don't give a damn whether a young guy or an old guy has the belt. I don't see the difference. If you have a young guy who's entertaining and good in the ring, and an old guy who's entertaining and good in the ring - I can't see the difference. Age? What is this? Communist Russia?

I just want that person to be good on the mic and at least decent in the ring. 20 years old or 50 years old - doesn't matter. Homegrown or not - doesn't matter.

The only problem with Sting being the Champion, like I said, is the overly frequent switching of the belt from one guy to the other in less than a month and a half.

P.S: Joe has everything? Suicide dive through the ropes, doing a mean face and talking about how you're an unstoppable force when you've been losing for the last year and a half isn't "everything".

 

[Daniel]

I most certainly can. But I'm not going to sit here and whine for 15 minutes about how he is or isn't like every other person on this forum moaning when someone not named AJ Styles or Robert Roode gets "the big one".

I really don't give a damn whether a young guy or an old guy has the belt. I don't see the difference. If you have a young guy who's entertaining and good in the ring, and an old guy who's entertaining and good in the ring - I can't see the difference. Age? What is this? Communist Russia?

I just want that person to be good on the mic and at least decent in the ring. 20 years old or 50 years old - doesn't matter. Homegrown or not - doesn't matter.

The only problem with Sting being the Champion, like I said, is the overly frequent switching of the belt from one guy to the other in less than a month and a half.

I agree with you. But who's actually talking about age? I'm not. And the people you claim to want Styles or Roode aren't either, are they? I mean Styles is 33 and Roode is 34. Not exactly young guys. But if they are, they are indeed stupid.

Sting is entertaining me, but he doesn't need the title to entertain me. Nor does he need the title to get over. This is my point. Anderson could use the title more than Sting could at this moment in time.

P.S: Joe has everything? Suicide dive through the ropes, doing a mean face and talking about how you're an unstoppable force when you've been losing for the last year and a half isn't "everything".

I read this a lot about Joe. People's complaints about him are a result of TNA's use of him, not his lack of talent. He does have it all. He's talented in the ring, he's charismatic, he's over and he can talk.. The fact that he's been booked like shit isn't his fault.

 

[Pedigree1]

eh is all i gotta say!!! Why not have Eazy E have the title!! I mean 55 year old sting has the belt he can barely go anymore!! I loved sting 15 years ago but come on give it up!! I was stoked honestly that anderson had the belt but what a short reign he had!! Total bs and i hoped by the time BFG rolls around sting is no longer the champion but knowing how TNA works he will be!! Sting V Hogan for the former NWA heavyweight title(which by the way to my knowledge hogan has never had this title)Enter new TNA champ HH

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

From an outsider looking in (as in, I'm not really a regular watcher of the TNA product), this seems like the company lost confidence in Anderson as champion and wanted push the reset button by having Sting taking it back. I think TNA had a plan for Anderson, but simply changed their minds and possibly their creative scheme. I personally have found Anderson this entire year to be annoying when I watch him. His promos have been very samey and quite frustrating. I think TNA hasn’t got what they were looking for from Anderson and as such, are looking back to Sting to guide the belt forward to its next holder before Bound for Glory. It would seem that Angle will be taking the World title into Bound for Glory (merely an early prediction on my part), perhaps to face a younger talent, a passing of the torch type deal, similar to what Sting/AJ did a couple of years back.

 

[three count bout]

I Imagined the Age of Anderson would be much different. IW, I believed lost faith too early in this guy. While the period when he lost the strap DID suck because they turned him into a whining bland SCSA, when he did the Surfer Sting gimmick I thought Anderson was finding what made him cool in Impact again. I thought his reign would be cool, he would fight a few up and coming faces, and even though he fought Angle before they would tango and put on another great feud. Alas, when he aligned with Immortal I knew this wouldn't be a reality. Sting became crazy because he lost the title, will he become sane now?

 

[RD_21]

The problem I have is that it make Immortal look weak, even if they really are.

Sting winning the title with 50 clowns is something you do when the locker room unite against the evil. But the stable is a stable they are together, should be strong and unstoppable together. Anderson finally join Immortal and the first match he has he lost the title, seems dumb to me and I don't like it.

 

[VinnieSunshine]

Im not the biggest TNA fan, but I see this as a waste. They could give the belt to anyone else but no, it HAD to go to Sting. All to setup a match between Sting and Hogan again?! Come on TNA.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I read some online reports regarding a talent meeting conducted by Hulk Hogan & Dixie Carter earlier this week. Most talent was said to be unreceptive to the "pep talk" as it's just stuff they've heard before.

As I was watching the ending of the show last night, this suddenly popped into my head because the source was quoted as saying that talent is frustrated with TNA's sudden loss of interest in one thing and just quickly jumping to something else. I thought last night's title change was a perfect example of just that. For much of this year, TNA has spent building Mr. Anderson up as their version of Stone Cold Steve Austin, their potentially next huge star and all this. However, once they put the title on him, the guy becomes mediocrity personified. Instead of giving Anderson a strong run and building him up to be a potential face of the company, they decide to put the belt on Sting and do an Angle vs. Sting feud.

As others have said, Sting doesn't need the title. This makes the 5th title change so far this year and I'm fairly sure that there'll be at least one more. While I do think that Anderson is somewhat overrated, he's a talented guy and the prospect of an Angle vs. Anderson match is much more appealing from an in-ring perspective. It's just a disappointment to see TNA again going back to the crutch of older, established stars instead of taking the time to really put some faith in and build up someone new.

 

[Depakote]

If Anderson stayed out of Immortal and didnt go full blown heel, he wouldnt have dropped the belt to Sting, so that means he'd be heading into Hardcore Justice as the champ, facing a face Angle. Thats a no win situation. If Angle beats Anderson in that scenario, it would hurt Anderson more than it would hurt Sting. If Anderson were to beat Angle, then what happens at BFG?

Anderson would face the winner of the BFG series, which is another no win scenario. The winner of the BFG series should walk out with the belt so that it establishes some credibility to the series, similar to the WWE's Money in the Bank. But the series winner beating Anderson hurts Anderson more than the loss would hurt Angle, and the winner gains nothing from beating Anderson other than the belt. The series winner would get a much much bigger rub from beating Angle for the belt.

So really, if you think about it, there was no better way this all could have played out. Sting will drop the belt to Angle. Angle will drop the belt at BFG. Sting will face Hogan at BFG. Hogan will turn face. Anderson will turn on Immortal and hopefully Immortal will disband. Anderson will probably then go on to feud with the champ after BFG.

 

[ECW Sandman]

I have been a fan of Sting for 21 years sense NWA/WCW days on TBS. I like that Sting is still wrestling, to me it does not matter that he is the TNA Champion I think Sting is a deserving Champion look what he has done for wrestling he lives by what people call him The ICON The LEGEND, Yes TNA could have let Anderson keep the title or they could have giving it to another younger wrestler like a AJ Styles or a Samoa Joe but they went with a more well known although Styles The Fallen Angel Joe and all those guys are well know as well but not like Sting I am not knocking on the other guys hell The Fallen Angel is my favorite TNA Wrestler ever sense I started watching TNA when it was on Fox Sports Network but you can't blame Sting if you want to blame anyone I think you have to blame Vince Russo even Hogan blames him for stupid shit Hogan even said so him self.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

I read some online reports regarding a talent meeting conducted by Hulk Hogan & Dixie Carter earlier this week. Most talent was said to be unreceptive to the "pep talk" as it's just stuff they've heard before.

As I was watching the ending of the show last night, this suddenly popped into my head because the source was quoted as saying that talent is frustrated with TNA's sudden loss of interest in one thing and just quickly jumping to something else. I thought last night's title change was a perfect example of just that. For much of this year, TNA has spent building Mr. Anderson up as their version of Stone Cold Steve Austin, their potentially next huge star and all this. However, once they put the title on him, the guy becomes mediocrity personified. Instead of giving Anderson a strong run and building him up to be a potential face of the company, they decide to put the belt on Sting and do an Angle vs. Sting feud.

As others have said, Sting doesn't need the title. This makes the 5th title change so far this year and I'm fairly sure that there'll be at least one more. While I do think that Anderson is somewhat overrated, he's a talented guy and the prospect of an Angle vs. Anderson match is much more appealing from an in-ring perspective. It's just a disappointment to see TNA again going back to the crutch of older, established stars instead of taking the time to really put some faith in and build up someone new.

I can't believe you're even considering trusting the monthly dirt sheet "roster morale is down because ______ " thing. Come on, you're better than that.

As far as "taking the time to really put some faith and build up someone new" goes ... I'm fine with that, but it couldn't have happened this month. Plus, who else that is "new" was truly ready to beat Sting this Thursday? Wait, scratch that. On the next Pay-Per-View.

Use your brain. If "someone new" dethroned Anderson at HardCore Justice, we'd still get the 5th title change regardless of whether it was Sting that did it or someone new. Not only that, whoever this "someone new" is, is already a part of the Bound for Glory series. Look at the participants. Who's going to challenge Sting or Anderson for it? Kendrick? Shelley? Shark Boy? Even if it is someone who isn't a part of the BFG series, that "someone" wouldn't have the proper build up - and you want this new person to be trusted by TNA and built up. How that happens in a month is beyond me.

If it is someone from the BFG series, then the mere match between this person and whoever's the champion at that time completely eradicates the purpose of the BFG series. Why go through all that hassle if you can get a title shot the old fashioned way?

 

[neverready]

i think stings new gimmick reminds me more of jim carrey than it does of the joker and i dont like anderson but i agree with other posts id rather see the belt on him than on sting

 

[Dieter_Von_Cunth]

I really think TNA didn't really think that this insane Sting gimmick would be as over as it apparently is right now. I think they saw how fucking nuts the reaction to the nut Sting was getting and they called an audible. They had to take advantage on how hot the angle was getting over. I really have no problem with the title change. I think it wasn't the fault of Anderson per say but the credit of an amazing entertainer in Sting and hitting this new Sting gimmick right between the eyes. TNA management decided to take full advantage of this and I can't blame them for doing what they did last night.

 

[Bigrog25]

I agree completely, as I said earlier, he's been busting his ass instead of coasting through on an old gimmick and it really shows, he should get rewarded for that. He just seems more energetic and all around having fun than I've seen in a long time.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

Sting makes sense as champion. Imagine if Anderson ( a member of Immortal) retained the belt until BFG and that Gunner ( assuming he wins the series) goes on to face Anderson. It wouldn't work because Gunner is also a member of Immortal and unless he turned face there is no way that a faction member faces a member of the same faction for the world title.

 

[kizarny]

I think this was a bad move on TNA's part in a number of ways.

first it totally kills everything they've been trying to build up with kennedy and Immortal. the angle was simple, kennedy was pursuing the title, but couldn't get it back. Immortal offers kennedy help, but he refuses to accept it. finally kennedy gives up and signs a deal with the devil by joining the heel faction. this gave immortal a leader and some credibility, and it gave kennedy something to do as a heel champion. logic suggests he stays in control of the title and loses it to someone at BFG... giving the title to sting killed the little credibility kennedy had as a champion and the little strength as a faction Immortal had left.

Secondly sting does not need the title at all. While I HATE the joker parody shit he's doing (another post for another thread), I can't deny that he is over for whatever reason. However, sting has been around long enough that he has pretty much earned permanent overness. I find him similar to Undertaker and HHH in the wwe, they are so over as veterans that they do not need the title. Undertaker wrestles roughly once or twice a year and every time he returns he is possibly the most over guy in the company. Sting is similar in that whether he has the belt or not, it's the fact that he is sting that gives his matches importance. sting is above the title, so giving it back to him is pointless.

Now i'm the farthest from a kennedy fan but in my mind if you committed to an angle from about january all the way to slammiversary (one of your super cards) then you have to fully commit to it. Kennedy dropping the belt three weeks later is not committing to it. and if you absolutely have to drop the belt, do not give it to a guy who will be super over with or without the belt.

 

[nWo2]

Robert Roode is the only guy not named AJ Styles (maybe Kurt Angle) that I wanna see with the strap.

Not Crimson.... Gunner has some time... and not Matt Morgan!

I think they should have split from Fortune and turned heel a long time ago (him & James Storm & Chris Harris)