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Many more women are finding they don't need a male figure in their life to have children. they are calling on so called "Sperm-banks" in order to becom pregnant. This is often used for lesbians, or women who feel their biological clock is ticking.

However, there are a shortage of donors at the moment. This conicides with controversy over whether they should remain anonymous. Many feel children should be able to find their father when they reach the age of 18. This is putting many men off, as they don't want to have many children running around that they'll find out about years later.

What are your opinions on them? Are they ethical? Would you ever be a donor? Should they stay anonymous?
 
I visit sperm banks when I want a tasty snack!




But on the topic, I will not donate sperm if im going to find out in 18 years time I have a sprog that wants to "know" me. I might be his biological father, but I'm not the "father" Whoever raised the nipper is the arents, no matter what the law courts say about genes and all that crap.

Another thing, a rumour has been lurking around where a sperm donor has had to pay child welfare for his donated sprog.
 
I think it was a good idea, It's there to help couple's/crazy ladies(and by that i mean single women), that are infirtile, have low fertillity, or don't own a penis that can produce sperm, It's made couple's into famillies and given them alot of happiness.

i'm torn on the whole "annommity" issue, as I've always been brought up to believe that you should take responsibillty for your "sperm"(i hate that term) and anything it create's, but there are guy's out there that just want to bring some happiness to someone's live's, and they are at jepody, not long ago, there was a story that broke that a guy was being sued for 18 years worth of child benefit's, as when she was pregnant via the donation system, and split with her partner, and things were tight for her and her baby, but the baby grew up and found her bio dad, and got to know him, then the mother does that to the poor guy? It's was wrong, Didnt work but it was wrong.
 
Sperm banks are a good idea for the women who are married to men who are infertile if they want to conceive a child.

After reading everyone elses posts and after thinking about it I don't think I would ever become a sperm donor for a sperm back as I would not want to be told I have to pay child support. Also if I was to have a child, I would want it to be with my wife and myself, not with another woman for two other people to raise, it may sound selfish, but I would like to know that I have all my kids in my family and not out there.

So yeah, in conclusion, I think they are of a great benefit for people who actually need them, but they just arn't for me.
 
I wouldn't donate my sperm personally. Thats just not my thing. I don't want to find out that I have a child 18 years after I donated. Plus, I wouldn't like my kids being raised by people who I do not know at all. I don't think it is fair on the child, or on me.

With that being said, I think it is a fairly good idea for couples that cannot have children. It must be hard finding out that you can't have kids. It certainly would be heartbreaking. Therefore I think it's fair that couples that can't have kids on their own, should or be given the option to use 'sperm banks' so they can experience parenthood. I don't agree with lesbians using them but thats a totally different topic altogether.

So I do think they should be used for couples as they are a good idea, but I wouldn't donate for many reasons as I would like to see and care for my children instead of never knowing them and having other people look after them.
 
I do not want another me running around in any way shape or form and as such I wouldnt donate to a sperm bank or even a friend for them to conceive.

Therefore I think it's fair that couples that can't have kids on their own, should or be given the option to use 'sperm banks' so they can experience parenthood. I don't agree with lesbians using them but thats a totally different topic altogether.

I am very intrigued by this sentence, and I think that this is the right place to discuss, but I am going to clarify so I dont misunderstand what you are trying to say.
Rusty are you saying that heterosexual couples who cannot have children should be allowed to have access to sperm banks and I am assuming IVF (I would think that is how they get the stuff in there, if I am wrong could someone let me know. Cheers) but lesbian couples should not have access to them?
 
I am very intrigued by this sentence, and I think that this is the right place to discuss, but I am going to clarify so I dont misunderstand what you are trying to say.
Rusty are you saying that heterosexual couples who cannot have children should be allowed to have access to sperm banks and I am assuming IVF (I would think that is how they get the stuff in there, if I am wrong could someone let me know. Cheers) but lesbian couples should not have access to them?

Yes, thats exactly what I'm saying. Call me old fashioned, but I only believe a child should be brought up by a male and a female parent, unless divorce or something similar to that occuts. I have nothing against lesbians don't get me wrong, but I don't believe two females should care for the same child as I believe each child needs a male and a female parent for many reasons.

Think about it, how awkward would it be for the child growing up with two mothers, but no father. Who would mow the lawn and be the handyman around the house? Sure women can do many things that men can, but there a certain things that a man can do that a woman can't do and vice versa.
 
Yeah so here is a better suggestion. come to Sparky for a root i will father the kids. i live in glenorchy and you know what they say. Fathers day is the most dangerous day for Males in glenorchy. :lmao:

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I would Donate my sperm for kids. Why not? people deserve their chance of happiness. I dont see the problem donating my sperm for somebody else to be happy and a for a life to be created.

I dont think they should be anonamis. (:lmao: Im tired.) The kids have a right to know who the father is. and i would want to know if they was ok and still alive. Its the best way to do it. imagine growing up not knowing your father.
 
My opinion on this is that I would donate my sperm unanonimously if I was allowed to know the child(ren) that are partly my cause, I would not like to mention that I am their father, because I am not, and I would not wish to even call myself related to the child - So it may be that I created 1/2 of the necessary ingredients, but it will be forever the child of the people who bring it up, hear it's first words, watch it's first step, take it to it's first day at school - Not a person who donated sperm to help create them.

Of course I said up there that I would like to know the child, for me, I would like to be a friend of the family (not being their friend prior, but my donation will create the friendship), I would like to be known as a friend to the child, of course complications could arise if they look exactly like me, in which case I might have to rethink my strategy so to speak. I don't see why people are so uptight about donating sperm, it's so much more than Jacking off in a cupboard (on that point, I would never give my sperm for money, I would donate it), it is helping those who dont have a privelage you do, to be honest I don't see how giving a loving family the joy of children is much different than giving a starving family some food and money.

On the anonymous point, if you donate it but wish to remain anonymous, I don't think you are fit enough to donate sperm, you should be proud of your actions, you are bringing happiness to people, it isn't something to be ashamed of, I'm sure a lot of people would donate a Kidney to save a life, and would be proud of it, donating sperm to actually give a life is much greater, and if people deduce it to "Wacking for Cash" then I don't think those sort of people should be donating sperm. Again, I'm sure a lot of people see it differently, but that's my take on them.

For the record, I have not donated my sperm, blood or anything of my body, but I would not hesitate to give any of them once I am a little older and have matured on these issues.
 
Quick thoughts: Wouldn't donate as I want to personally raise my own children, and also because I don't believe single people be them straight, gay, whatever should be parents intentionally. Hell two people can barely do an adequate job these days.
 
I don't believe single people be them straight, gay, whatever should be parents intentionally.

Why would this be? I was raised by my mother only, and I think she was an amazing parent. Sometimes, it can be better for a child to be raised by only one person. Sometimes, it's worse. As you said, 2 people can sometimes do a bad job, so why stop single people having a child?

I believe anyone can be a good parent. One single mother may be better than a married couple with an abusive relationship, or something similar. The myth that their has to be a male and a female to raise a child properly in stupid in my opinion.
 
I'm happy you were raised by an amazing parent.
I find no reason to give examples be them personal or public as I'm sure people of all types have been raised in equally diverse family settings and like wise have grown up to be varying types of people good and bad.
So moving along, I just believe that one would be better served by having a strong stable female and male parenting situation. Better odds and all that.
 
I think that with what both of you are saying, it shouldn't matter whether a single parent or a couple uses the sperm bank. I think providing that the parties involved undergo a psychiatric test to make sure they are fit it should be fine.
 
You find no point giving examples? Then how do you expect the point to get across? From you I see no reason as to why a male and female family are great, and why single people should not be allowed to have children if it can be helped.

You answered it yourself; "All types have been raised in equally diverse family settings and like wise have grown up to be varying types of people good and bad". I believe there has been studies on this, relating to whether people grow up to be better people if they were raised in a 2 parent family. The results are generally inconclusive, due to many reasons. For a start, how do you describe a 'better' person?
 
And this is what I tried to avoid. I have no vested interest in this as I'm still slightly too young to be a parent. Pardon me if I'm wrong , and with it all due apologies, but you seem to be taking this a bit personally.

First, I state no example because then it would be a battle of who could research the most examples of heroes/monsters and how many parents they had which IMO opinion is a waste and gets neither of us anywhere.

Second, I expect(ed) to get my point across by stating what I think and believe in a simple, clear, and concise manner as I thought I did in my OP. I've no interest in whether you agree disagree or are neutral as I was simply and quickly stating my personal opinion rather than trying to jump head long into a debate or argument.

Third, this concept of a "better" person you mention above is slightly confusing as you seem to imply that I had brought up the concept originally but when re-reading my post I see no mention of "better" people/person

I did however say better odds. Perhaps that was what you were eluding to? In any event I would think I shouldn't have to describe what a "better" person is like in relation to a "worse" person in general. I'm sure we've all come across such instances of both in our lives.
 
The point of a forum is kind of to debate things. If you don't want to debate, don't post, or don't reply to my post debating yours. But wherever there's a post I disagree with, I will debate it. Because that's kind if the point.

I'm not 'taking it personally' I'm debating. It's something I feel strongly about, and when people feel strong about 2 subjects it often makes the debate better.

The 'better' concept wasn't directed at you, more of a rhetorical question. My point, however, was that there is no conclusive evidence to say people who grow up in a 2 parent family are any better off than those that grow up in a single parent family. Whereas you seem to believe there is. I'm simpy asking you why is it you feel that way.
 
I am in favour of sperm banks as they provide infertile people with a chance to have a kid. However, I do think people using this option need to be careful as they might not have the sort of relationship they would get from a biological child
 
I'm not 'taking it personally' I'm debating. It's something I feel strongly about, and when people feel strong about 2 subjects it often makes the debate better.

If I'm understanding you right wouldn't it be 2 opinions on the same subject rather than 2 subjects? Apologies if I miss understood. I also only mentioned your personal involvement as you went out of your way to specifically mention your own experiences as it relates to the topic and how your opinion evolved from said experiences/circumstances.

The 'better' concept wasn't directed at you, more of a rhetorical question. My point, however, was that there is no conclusive evidence to say people who grow up in a 2 parent family are any better off than those that grow up in a single parent family. Whereas you seem to believe there is. I'm simpy asking you why is it you feel that way.

Well since I don't feel like doing all the research, lets say for argument's sake, you're right and there is no conclusive evidence to validate my opinion. Likewise it would invalidate your position as well.

Remember my position is that single people (oxymoron?) shouldn't actively seek out to be parents. I'm not saying they can't do a respectable job, a good job, a great job or even an amazing job. I am however saying, that with few exceptions, in all likely hood they couldn't do an optimal job just given the basic circumstances.

To run optimally I would need two fully capable, healthy and functional legs. If for whatever set of circumstances I lost or permanently injured one leg I'm sure I could get by, adapt, and even to varying degrees excel. And that's great.
However if I or anyone for that matter wanted to seriously pursue running and be the best they possibly could be at the sport I don't think it should be allowable to first be able to hack off/surgically remove one's limb and then proceed to hit the track. It's simple counterproductive to excelling at the chosen craft.

And in a lot of ways I believe one could make an analogous case for a two parent home as well. Or at least I could. An hence my opinion as originally posted.
 
If I'm understanding you right wouldn't it be 2 opinions on the same subject rather than 2 subjects? Apologies if I miss understood. I also only mentioned your personal involvement as you went out of your way to specifically mention your own experiences as it relates to the topic and how your opinion evolved from said experiences/circumstances.

Or maybe, just maybe, I was giving an example on how single parent familes can function just as well as 2 parent families.

Well since I don't feel like doing all the research, lets say for argument's sake, you're right and there is no conclusive evidence to validate my opinion. Likewise it would invalidate your position as well.

My position is simply that anyone can do a good job, whether they're married, single, straight, gay, divorced etc. There are good people who have come from every single one of them, just as their is bad.

Remember my position is that single people (oxymoron?) shouldn't actively seek out to be parents. I'm not saying they can't do a respectable job, a good job, a great job or even an amazing job. I am however saying, that with few exceptions, in all likely hood they couldn't do an optimal job just given the basic circumstances.

And I'm simply saying that 2 parent families can also do a bad job, as well as they can do a good job. It depends on the type of people, not their marital status.
 
Many more women are finding they don't need a male figure in their life to have children. they are calling on so called "Sperm-banks" in order to becom pregnant.

Which is completely ******ed on the part of any female who feels that way, because regardless how they go about it.. it's the male's sperm who MUST get them pregnant. :disappointed: Silly Women, no wonder we used to club them during prehistoric years.. I'm about to find a club right now and start a history lesson. :p

None the less, I get what they mean by feeling they don't need a male (in their life) to have a child. But still, point (albeit silly, was made)

This is often used for lesbians, or women who feel their biological clock is ticking.

I think it's very respectable for Lesbian couples to do this, but the only problem I have with that is.. (from my opinion) half of the lesbian couples out there.. are experimental and only lust-related, not love. Therefore, some of the "couples" who suddenly wanna bring a child into this world, might be somehow misguiding the understanding of love to lust. That could hurt a child's up-bringing.

Women who's "clock's are ticking" need to 'shit or get off the pot'. That expression is more than old. Once again, most female's (through my opinion) that feel their 'clocks are running out of time' are only in that position because they've mainly been so picky in life, they've wasted a lot of years on worthlessness and stubborn nature.

However, there are a shortage of donors at the moment.

I can't find a bank, that's likely one of the reasons. :lmao:

This conicides with controversy over whether they should remain anonymous. Many feel children should be able to find their father when they reach the age of 18. This is putting many men off, as they don't want to have many children running around that they'll find out about years later.

This would be a huge scare risk for many Males. The main reason is understandable as well.

A sperm bank is nothing more than a quick way to earn money for a male, in agreement to give out sperm that they DON'T have to be responsible for.

All the sudden, 18 some odd years later you get your seed knocking at your door and suddenly having all these "issues" with why you weren't in their life and they grew up with Two Mom's. Children who get put in this situation love to place the blame ON the male for that.. when the agreement was.. "no strings attached".

I'm not saying a child doesn't deserve to know who their Father is, but I am saying it's completely and 100% wrong of any child to willingly take out 18 some odd years of hatred on an unknown guy who had NO idea his 'seed' even produced a spawn.

What are your opinions on them? Are they ethical?

When you ask about it being 'ethical' that's really touching some tough lines to cross. Personally, while I say it's a justifiable option to use and it DOES help Female's without a counterpart to find happiness through a child in this manner.. it's still borderlining the idea that you're giving up YOUR seed, willingly knowing you don't have to take any responsibility for it.

I think that falls into some type of catagory of being irresponsible to a degree, but at the same time not.. if that makes any sense. Like I said, it's a tough call and a borderline decision to say whether it's ethical or not.

On one hand, through the positive side of things you're quite possibly helping to bring happiness to a would-be Mother who couldn't have a child any other way. (this includes some Married couples, who's Male counterpart can't produce so they seek this option)

But on the other hand.. it's hard for me to say that it's MY seed, and I'm willingly giving up all responsibility for it. That's almost the same in knowing you have a child out there, but willingly just walk away without wanting to give it attention or responsibility.

Would you ever be a donor?

The money you gain from doing it is definately enough for me to think about it. And yes, I admit with how I feel regarding the "seed/responsibility" it's hard for me to even say I'd think about it.. but Money is the source of almost anything.. you need it to continue, and when ends aren't meeting..

Knowing that in doing this you at least COULD be helping someone to be happy might just be the better deciding factor than believing you're giving up responsibility or concern over your 'seed'.

I would consider it, but obviously the Wife would have to agree and even in a joking sense when I found out you could earn up to $500.00-1,000.00 (I think it was) I said I was doing it.. and she flatout shot that idea down.. so in the end, she's wearing my Pants and telling me no. :lmao:

Should they stay anonymous?

Honestly, no. Every child has a right to know who their Father is, regardless. I just feel that in this situation, an "astrisk" needs to be made next to the situation in which is says the Father had NO idea whether the child was actually born or not.

Because I'm 100% against the idea of an 18 (plus) year old teenager coming to my doorstep and cursing me to no end, all because "I was never there" for the spawn I never knew WAS there.
 
Or maybe, just maybe, I was giving an example on how single parent familes can function just as well as 2 parent families.

Yes you did but you could have listed another impersonal example that would have been just as relevant and perhaps more factually substantiated

My position is simply that anyone can do a good job, whether they're married, single, straight, gay, divorced etc. There are good people who have come from every single one of them, just as their is bad.

Yes you've said that already. I know. Never said they couldn't. I even agree it's possible...

And I'm simply saying that 2 parent families can also do a bad job, as well as they can do a good job. It depends on the type of people, not their marital status.

At this point it seems to me as if you're just reiterating your ideas rather than adding anything new. Again In regards to you're idea that a person could be raised well in a single parent house hold I continue to agree. I must stress again, I have never said it absolutely couldn't be done, or was by any means impossible. The exception to a rule while being improbable isn't impossible hence it being the exception in the first place.

I simply believe it's not optimal so why bother.

I say give a child the best possible start you can if you can. And in situation you can, so do it. Hence a capable stable functional strong 2 parent household.
 
I simply believe it's not optimal so why bother.

I say give a child the best possible start you can if you can. And in situation you can, so do it. Hence a capable stable functional strong 2 parent household.

The thing I've been disagreeing with all along is this. The fact that you believe the best way to bring up a child is in a 2 parent family. I've been disagreeing with this, saying I don't think it really matters. Are we clear?

I don't think being in a 2 parent family is any better, or worse, than with a single parent. What I do believe is that any parent can make it work. Parents, plural, can make it work. But if a single woman wants to have a child so badly she'd consider going to a sperm bank over it, I think she'd do a job just as good as a female and a male. Therefore I see no problem in her going through this method if she knows she can love and provide for a child. I don't think it's fair to say single women cannot use this service.
 
The thing I've been disagreeing with all along is this. The fact that you believe the best way to bring up a child is in a 2 parent family. I've been disagreeing with this, saying I don't think it really matters. Are we clear?

Crystal (for me anyway), since your first post...

I don't think being in a 2 parent family is any better, or worse, than with a single parent. What I do believe is that any parent can make it work. Parents, plural, can make it work. But if a single woman wants to have a child so badly she'd consider going to a sperm bank over it, I think she'd do a job just as good as a female and a male. Therefore I see no problem in her going through this method if she knows she can love and provide for a child. I don't think it's fair to say single women cannot use this service.[/quote]

"make it work" doesn't equal "optimal" Your own words betray you.

Having a child isn't about what is and isn't fair to the parent(s). It's about what is fair for said child.

Getting/making a baby just because someone wants one, even if they want it really badly, is practically the definition of selfish.
 
Then isn't the definition of all people who have a child selfish? After all, most people who plan a pregnancy do so because they and their partner WANT a child. I don't understand how anyone can call having a child selfish though. It's the hardest job in the world, and it's basically giving up your life.

I don't think it's 'unfair' for a child to grow up in a single parent family. If anything, it's more unfair to the one parent, than to the child. But as you said, it isn't about what's fair to the parent.
 
Then isn't the definition of all people who have a child selfish? After all, most people who plan a pregnancy do so because they and their partner WANT a child. I don't understand how anyone can call having a child selfish though. It's the hardest job in the world, and it's basically giving up your life.
When taken out of context I could understand what you say(I did however type "just because"). Let me be clear: If it was solely base on the WANT then yes, it's selfish.

I don't think it's 'unfair' for a child to grow up in a single parent family.
Well, I do think it's unfair for a child to grow up in a single parent family, more so if it can be avoided, and especially when deliberate.

Ever think the child may want two parents? Honestly, why would a child prefer only one fantastic parent to having two fantastic parents?
-"Hey Dad? I need a mom, how come I don't have one?"

-"Eh, I didn't feel like it, but I still wanted you, really badly. Sorry 'bout that."
Call me crazy, but it seems unfair (to the child) to me.

If anything, it's more unfair to the one parent, than to the child.
Unfair to the single parent?
How can something self imposed be unfair?
If its so "unfair" don't do it in the first place.
 

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