So with DX on hold, Evolution can now sell products

[THE SWAG]

yeah i agree to bring back hhh and orton together makes no sense they had one of the most personal rivalries in a long time, and now they are friends all of a sudden come on now

 

[DirtyJosé]

Regarding the Two Man Powertrip angle and how it could get Austin and HHH to parter up, remember the most important thing: It took McMahon standing between them. It took McMahon to set up the stable, it took McMahon to talk HHH into joining. McMahon doesn't do that kind of role much anymore, just these one offs with old legends or various other McMahons. I don't think an Evolution rebuild at this point would work either way, but it certainly lacks that McMahon glue to hold it together.

Anyway, the only way to do Evolution again would be to wait another, oh, 4 years at least. Long enough for HHH to be out of the spotlight (ha!) to pick up that role of "the best of the past". Batista picks out a noob, Orton picks out a noob, and each goes to their respective brand show and starts cleaning house. AND THEN! Since we're on this nostalgia band wagon anyway, you could have them totally start splintering, and one group is going face, the other one is going heel, totally, and like the face group could come out in evolution t shirts printed with a different color, and be all "WOOoooo, we're leaving you Evolution! You are lame! We are now, Evolution: Dogpack!", and then set up like this huge war that leads up to Wrestlemania and like in the main event match up, everyone jobs to a returning HHH (throwing finger pokes around the whole time, like this was the payoff to such a long angle).

Wait, sorry for that rant there, I just realized I actually got carried away thinking about how to book an Evolution return angle.

Anyway, didn't Jim Cornette make an observation about how long you can wait between recycling angles and gimmicks? 7 years, wasn't it?

Finally, not to be a dick (who am I kidding):

Stupid stupid stupid idea... ...I seriously think this might be the dumbest idea I've ever heard presented on this board.

No, that would be the thread about how CM Punk should just turn face again.

 

[Trill Co$by]

Or, as other tag teams have in the past, they can easily keep their beef yet put it aside for a little bit. Look at Miz and Morrison... they started out as rivals on ECW and went on to become the tag team that the division needed to strive.

And then you could also team these two up because they are just that hungry for gold, or for the fact that now Orton is seeing what Triple H meant by Orton being too confident, and thus giving Ted & Rhodes a decent tag feud.

Everyone is shooting it down because of the angle that happened a year ago, but don't realize that teams have formed instantly after having rivals just a week ago. Hell, anybody else remember last year when Big Show straight up told The Miz that he hated him? And now where are they? Tag team champions right?

Right.

And if you want to add the whole "Evolution was past, present, and future" bit then there's a simple solution. Triple H, being damn close to having to hang up the boots, would be the man to represent the past. Randy Orton, being so damn good, would be the man to represent the present. And then for the two futures, just grab someone from FCW and stick them with Orton and Triple H. It's not rocket science here.

I still say that right now, in a division that's need of teams on Raw, bringing back Evolution wouldn't be a bad thing. In fact, a lot of things could play into this to make this angle work.

Seriously people, the quote of WWE is, was, and forever will be "Anything can happen"... don't let that quote get away from your brain.

 

[D-Man]

Or, as other tag teams have in the past, they can easily keep their beef yet put it aside for a little bit. Look at Miz and Morrison... they started out as rivals on ECW and went on to become the tag team that the division needed to strive.

But does it make sense? Why would the WWE waste top talent like Triple H and Orton by throwing HHH in his second tag team stint in the past two months? Why would they throw the leader of the best stable of the past two years into ANOTHER tag team? Especially after Orton was involved in so many tag matches from teaming up with Legacy? And how would this help elevate new talent? All it would do is take TV time away from the talent the WWE is trying to push for the future. I highly doubt that if Orton and HHH were thrown together that it would make sense for them to job out to anyone. This whole idea just makes no sense, whatsoever.

And as for your point about Miz and Morrison teaming up after their ECW feud; it was of no consequence. These two men were nowhere near the top of the roster like Triple H and Stone Cold were, or like Triple H and Orton are now. You can't compare the two... it's like apples and oranges.

And then you could also team these two up because they are just that hungry for gold, or for the fact that now Orton is seeing what Triple H meant by Orton being too confident, and thus giving Ted & Rhodes a decent tag feud.

Being "hungry for gold" is more of a heel angle than a babyface angle. It always has been. Triple H and Orton are both (more or less) babyfaces right now. Both of their feuds are brand new (Legacy's full turn only happened just recently) and will probably continue for a few more PPV's before these guys move on.

Everyone is shooting it down because of the angle that happened a year ago, but don't realize that teams have formed instantly after having rivals just a week ago.

The only one I could remember was the two-man power trip with HHH and Austin, while was ultimately an unsuccessful pairing. It ruined the angle that involved Rikishi and the hit and run incident. The WWE underestimated the memories of their audience and figured we would all move on quickly from a year-long angle. They were wrong.

Hell, anybody else remember last year when Big Show straight up told The Miz that he hated him? And now where are they? Tag team champions right?

No, and that's why this is a bad example to defend your proposition.

Right.

Um... wrong??

And if you want to add the whole "Evolution was past, present, and future" bit then there's a simple solution. Triple H, being damn close to having to hang up the boots, would be the man to represent the past. Randy Orton, being so damn good, would be the man to represent the present. And then for the two futures, just grab someone from FCW and stick them with Orton and Triple H. It's not rocket science here.

Gee... real simple. After all, a few random FCW wrestlers can easily compare to a third-generation wrestler and a physical specimen like Batista. And I'm sure Triple H is eager to make himself look like the old man that Ric Flair was portrayed as being after Evolution formed.

I still say that right now, in a division that's need of teams on Raw, bringing back Evolution wouldn't be a bad thing. In fact, a lot of things could play into this to make this angle work.

Anything could work in the WWE if given the proper attention. It would need a proper storyline, the right players, and perfect execution. However, this angle is just too far-fetched. It really makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever. And if the WWE did this and was aiming for "shock-value", they would fail miserably. Evolution is not a stable that people are craving to come back like DX or the Four Horsemen. No one gives a shit about it anymore. So why would people give a shit about Triple H and Orton teaming up? This is just a bad idea from start to finish.

Seriously people, the quote of WWE is, was, and forever will be "Anything can happen"... don't let that quote get away from your brain.

Trust me... we haven't. Anything COULD happen in the WWE... if it makes sense. This doesn't.

 

[Trill Co$by]

And as for your point about Miz and Morrison teaming up after their ECW feud; it was of no consequence. These two men were nowhere near the top of the roster like Triple H and Stone Cold were, or like Triple H and Orton are now. You can't compare the two... it's like apples and oranges.

The point I'm making is that tag teams have been known to set aside differences to hold tag team gold. It's actually how WWE's been making legit tag teams over the past decade. And right now, it's not like Orton or HHH are in the WWE title picture so why not put them together? A win over these two for Show and Miz would help cement them into the legacy of great tag teams... possibly the greatest if you look at it as them not only beating DX but Evolution as well.

I'm targeting this one response because the argument you give doesn't make sense to me. I get it, they were rivals and most likely, would "never co-exist again" but stranger things have happened. A lot of shit is able to be done to where even though they don't see eye to eye, they'd still be a good tag team.

For example, a guest host could put them in a tournament to crown #1 Contenders for the tag belts at the next PPV. At said PPV, they win the belts, and thus are tag champs. Or hell, even if they lose and then split, this will give WWE a better chance of going to their old wear house and selling the old Evolution shirts.

And the thing with WWE's "Anything can happen" is to get you not expect something and then do it. It's just how it is.

 

[CH David]

The point I'm making is that tag teams have been known to set aside differences to hold tag team gold. It's actually how WWE's been making legit tag teams over the past decade. And right now, it's not like Orton or HHH are in the WWE title picture so why not put them together? A win over these two for Show and Miz would help cement them into the legacy of great tag teams... possibly the greatest if you look at it as them not only beating DX but Evolution as well.

ShowMiz, greatest tag team? You have got to be fucking kidding me. Because when I think of the greatest tag teams, I think of a thrown together team like that. Don't get me wrong, I love ShowMiz, but they will not and should not be considered anywhere near the greatest. They are nowhere near the top, and to think they are better than the Freebirds, Hart Foundation, The Road Warriors, among all of the other greats that I know I am forgetting.

I'm targeting this one response because the argument you give doesn't make sense to me. I get it, they were rivals and most likely, would "never co-exist again" but stranger things have happened. A lot of shit is able to be done to where even though they don't see eye to eye, they'd still be a good tag team.

Yet it wouldn't make sense at this juncture. Throwing them together to not even do anything of importance in the tag team division is an idiotic idea. The occasional tag match would be fine, but a reunion for a month or two is stupid.

For example, a guest host could put them in a tournament to crown #1 Contenders for the tag belts at the next PPV. At said PPV, they win the belts, and thus are tag champs. Or hell, even if they lose and then split, this will give WWE a better chance of going to their old wear house and selling the old Evolution shirts.

They lose and split, then what the fuck is the point of putting them together? To put over ShowMiz? No, just no. And going to the warehouse to sell old shirts is no reason to put a team back together either. Just put that shit on clearance on their website or something.

And the thing with WWE's "Anything can happen" is to get you not expect something and then do it. It's just how it is.

Yeah, we know that anything can happen. But this is not a logical idea with the way you are going about it. Maybe a few tag matches here and there, but a full blown Evolution should not happen for a month or two like you seem to be suggesting.