So, No Brock For Mania, Happy?

[King_of_Swing1520]

thank god brock didnt come back. the rocks return has been terrible and uneventfulas it is. i dont want to see another part timer taking a spot from someone who actually wrestles on a nightly basis. i hate part time guys and thats what rock is and what brock will/would be. jericho comes and goes but when hes here hes here. wrestles every night and does house shows and dark main events. rock and brock would never do that. rock hasnt even been a big draw since his "come back" i mean have the ratings improved significantly? nope. will mania be a bigger success because hes there? nope. its mania, its going to get good buy rates no matter what. brock lesner should stay away from the wwe unless he actually returns. if he does come back and do the same thing the rocks been doing it will be terrible for the the wwe. i mean what happend to the youth movement?

 

[Tyler44]

thank god brock didnt come back. the rocks return has been terrible and uneventfulas it is. i dont want to see another part timer taking a spot from someone who actually wrestles on a nightly basis. i hate part time guys and thats what rock is and what brock will/would be. jericho comes and goes but when hes here hes here. wrestles every night and does house shows and dark main events. rock and brock would never do that. rock hasnt even been a big draw since his "come back" i mean have the ratings improved significantly? nope. will mania be a bigger success because hes there? nope. its mania, its going to get good buy rates no matter what. brock lesner should stay away from the wwe unless he actually returns. if he does come back and do the same thing the rocks been doing it will be terrible for the the wwe. i mean what happend to the youth movement?

The youth movement is still here I suppose, but like I've said for the last year, the youth movement can't happen if there is no credible youth to push. This year's Wrestlemania is overshadowed by three huge matches, and only one of the guys involved was pushed in the last year. But the thing is, do you even think a pushed Dolph Ziggler vs. a pushed Cody Rhodes headlining Wrestlemania would do anything good?

And on The Rock's return, yes I agree it has been uneventful (or at least sub par to anything we were expecting), but I pretty much disagree with everything else you say. The Rock's match at Wrestlemania, in my opinion, has the most hype going into it, leading me to believe this could be one of the most exciting matches in the last 6-7 years. It's going to be insane, and honestly, people will be buying the event to see this. And when I say people, I mean all kinds, and I mean an abundance. This match alone is going to sell numbers like crazy, and then there are two other matches following it up. This match will be the reason people buy this ppv, and it is most certainly because of The Rock.

And you're wrong with Lesnar as well. Lesnar is a monster, a destroyer, and a powerhouse. He isn't a microphone, promo working entertainer. The Rock is. Lesnar's return would be more physically involved and dominant. He would not be utilized the same as The Rock because they are completely different in their skills set.

 

[Shotaro]

I'm glad Lesnar isn't going to be at Mania, whenever I look online all I can seem to find is him either nearly breaking someone's neck (either his or someone else's). I don't think he would come back to the WWE anyway, he is entertaining sure, but he has a family and a major problem with his abdomen. He took a couple of hits to his abdomen in MMA and got a TKO against him. I doubt he could withstand many, if any, high impact moves. He needs to rest and fully recover from his injuries.

 

[d_henderson1810]

Very simply put: why would Vince want to waste a major return like Brock on a show where one of the biggest stars ever is going to be in one of the biggest matches ever? It's like pouring money away because Lesnar alone is going to draw big. Therefore, what's the point in having him on the same show as Rock, who is going to draw a million buys? Save Brock for something like Summerslam or Mania 29. But yeah, I don't see him going on the road again. He made a fortune in UFC and from what I remember reading, he saved the majority of his money from his original WWE run. Brock doesn't need Vince, so why rush it?

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You say that no-one will care about Brock Lesnar, because the Rock will also be at WM. Since everyone is marking out for the Rock, let me remind you that ten years ago, it wasn't Brock Lesnar who these so-called "Rock" fans booed and called a "sell-out" at "Summerslam 2002". It was Brock's opponent in the match, the Rock.

Isn't it ironic that a lot of people marking out for the Rock now are the same jabronis (the Rock's word, not mine) who was glad to see the back of him ten years ago? Hypocrites!

 

[SinCityBlitz]

I have no doubt that Brock will be making appearances for the WWE again. He will never work full time ever again but he will wrestle again. But I agree with Klunder that they should wait on Lesnar so they can build it right. With The Rock at mania he's not needed right now.

It's funny how people judge The Rock for going to Hollywood and people don't care that Brock left for UFC. I'm not particularly judging anybody here but just in general. The Rock left for Hollywood and politely asked to be called Dwayne Johnson instead of The Rock because he wanted to separate his acting and wrestling which is okay. The Rock did not bad mouth WWE once. Brock Lesnar always bad mouths WWE always. Why should us Wrestling fans even accept Lesnar after how badly he got his ass kicked in his last fight. Us Wrestling fans shouldn't even accept Lesnar unless he goes and has a fight with anybody most likely Frank Mir and kick the shit out of him, then retires for good and returns to Wrestling.

I'm no Lesnar hater, I thought the guy was completely badass. I'd prefer him over Cena anyday. He was supposed to be the face of the company and currently would be if he never left.

The Rock ignored his wrestling past. He wanted nothing to do with it while Lesnar was honest from day one. Sure Lesnar bashed wrestling but like I said at least he was honest about it.

Even though Brock Lesnar has retired from active MMA, he is still under contract to Zuffa, the parent company of UFC. Thsu Brock is unable to appear on any WWE programming whether he wanted to or not.

Dana White has a good relationship with both Vince and Brock and he said this...

"When you retire, he retires under contract. I have no idea (how long the contract is). Listen, I've had my moments with Brock Lesnar but I've had a great relationship with him and we'll figure it out, no big deal. Never had a situation with a guy where we haven't done the right thing."


That right there tells you that he will work something out so Brock can do what he wants to do.

 

[emerald phoenix]

I have no doubt that Brock will be making appearances for the WWE again. He will never work full time ever again but he will wrestle again. But I agree with Klunder that they should wait on Lesnar so they can build it right. With The Rock at mania he's not needed right now.



The Rock ignored his wrestling past. He wanted nothing to do with it while Lesnar was honest from day one. Sure Lesnar bashed wrestling but like I said at least he was honest about it.

Dana White has a good relationship with both Vince and Brock and he said this...

"When you retire, he retires under contract. I have no idea (how long the contract is). Listen, I've had my moments with Brock Lesnar but I've had a great relationship with him and we'll figure it out, no big deal. Never had a situation with a guy where we haven't done the right thing."


That right there tells you that he will work something out so Brock can do what he wants to do.

ya hell let brock go back......if the price is right. this is my entire point, is vince willing to fork out the money to buy lesnar out of his ufc contract, pay lesnar ontop of that for very very limited use. lesnar will not be going on the road ft or hell i doubt barly pt. lesnar hates travel. zuffa will want to be comp'd for lesnars salery plus what he would of brought in as profit. your looking at millions right there... now add ontop of that what your gonna pay lesnar. are you going to get in return what you payed out for his very limited use. i dont think alot of people are understanding the business side of this. its all about turning a profit. its not like lesnar is completely free and vince will just pay him to return, vince will have to pay out to zuffa to buy him out which will immeditaly put them at a loss. it will be a matter of if vince believes lesnar will bring in more cash than what there paying out for him, and thats a uphill climb when you look at how lesnar will be used due to his demands. its not like there signing him and he will be used ft or even pt

 

[J.J.]

I just want to know how many of you can say what Vince will and won't do - as if you know him personally. Look...As it has been pointed out with the current card for Wrestlemania it would be bad to bring him back at Mania, even if he was considering a return. All the buildup put into Rock/Cena a Lesnar Mania return would've took away that attention. I do see him returning, can't assume when but i see it. Never began to believe it would be Mania.

 

[Mustang Sally]

You say that no-one will care about Brock Lesnar, because the Rock will also be at WM. Since everyone is marking out for the Rock, let me remind you that ten years ago, it wasn't Brock Lesnar who these so-called "Rock" fans booed and called a "sell-out" at "Summerslam 2002". It was Brock's opponent in the match, the Rock.

Isn't it ironic that a lot of people marking out for the Rock now are the same jabronis (the Rock's word, not mine) who was glad to see the back of him ten years ago? Hypocrites!

It's a valid observation, but I think the point is that even as WWE is trying to sell their biggest PPV of the year to as wide an audience as possible, they understand they can't reach every household in the world. Sure, there are groups of fans that love the Rock and others who would rather see Brock Lesnar. The point, though, is that WWE is looking to bring in a legend from the past to persuade ex-wrestling fans (and current fans who remember the old days) to buy the PPV due to the "nostalgia" factor.

To do this, they're bringing in the Rock, but if he refused to do it, they could bring in Brock Lesnar and nail many of the same fans. But that's the point; it's the same fans and the company is wise to not spend mega-bucks on both to reach the potential buyers they're already reaching with either one.

Since we've read that Brock is willing to be a part of things, some day he can be the featured "nostalgia" attraction at a major PPV. Until then, WWE is making a wise financial decision to not overpay for two guys to attract what they would get by paying only one.

 

[theBec2101]

I really didnt care for him before when he was in WWE i really dislike him for his ok i made alot of money I'm out this bitch attitude when he left. Dont get me wrong I strongly dislike Goldberg too for the same reason. If only he would of snaped his neck while doing the shooting star press. Anyway he left found out he sucked in the NFL and left, then he couldnt in the Euro football league and left, couldnt make in the UFC with the help of Dana White. I wish to never see him in the ring again. But also wouldnt mind if someone double tapped him in the back of the head.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

I am glad that Lesnar is not coming back at this years WM.

A Brock Lesnar return would be the comeback of one of the few remaining MEGA names in the business, and WWE should and probably will promote the shit out of it, with Lesnar's match being THE big match at whatever PPV it would be at. With Rock v Cena, Punk v Jericho and HHH v Undertaker at this years Mania, why waste a Lesnar return by adding it to the card. Yes, it WOULD make this years Mania even bigger and better, but it would have so much more impact at next years show, or at a PPV later this year.

WWE will not want to waste this. They will want to squeeze every last dollar out of a Brock Lesnar match. He is a big deal and his return will be a huge coup for WWE if it happens.

 

[Dagger Dias]

If Lesnar did come back, this is NOT a good time to be going through with that. Returns of big names like Lesnar need to be saved for a huge show, so normally Wrestlemania WOULD be the ideal time to bring him back, assuming he was returning to WWE at all. This year's card is completely stacked with legends and stars. John Cena, The Rock, Triple H, Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Sheamus, Randy Orton, and Kane are all going to be featured in high profile matches. Lesnar would get lost in that shuffle and thus his return would be overshadowed by at least two of the bigger matches.

I would save it for Summerslam or a future Wrestlemania with less star power. WWE would want to make as much money as possible off of his return, so they need to make sure he does not return at an event where his comeback was not the biggest deal on the card. At the very least he would be overshadowed by Cena/Rock and Taker/Trips. Am I happy that Lesnar will not be at this year's Wrestlemania? Yes, actually, because he would not bring anything to the table that isn't already being provided by someone else. I never liked his last run much anyway. He had the talent in the ring for someone his size, but he sure as hell did NOT deserve the push he got. I was a fan of his UFC work, although when it comes to WWE then I would MUCH rather see the matches we ARE getting this year like Cena/Rock, Taker/Trips, or Punk/Jericho than anything Lesnar could have possibly provided if he came back in time.

 

[XXJJ]

Like others have said it just made no sense bringing him back right now. They are selling WM with HIAC and Cena/Rock. WM 28 lineup is stacked.

Brock was a huge ppv draw for UFC. I'm sure Vince is already thinking of when he could possibly bring him back. WM 29 or 30 or this years summerslam are probably better spots.

I would love to see Lesnar vs Orton.