So, No Brock For Mania, Happy?

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Remember that one time when Brock retired right before the cryptic video guy came? Remember how it seemed like God wanted to make 'Mania more awesome and wanted to mark out like a little girl watching Lesnar jump on the ring apron?



None of that is happening. Maybe Brock actually meant he wanted to stay with his family (the nerve!). The card is now so heavy that they can only do a titan debut ala Steiner SSeries 02 or a run-in.

A redebut would be great, but I don't he is going on the road.

After Mania?
 
Very simply put: why would Vince want to waste a major return like Brock on a show where one of the biggest stars ever is going to be in one of the biggest matches ever? It's like pouring money away because Lesnar alone is going to draw big. Therefore, what's the point in having him on the same show as Rock, who is going to draw a million buys? Save Brock for something like Summerslam or Mania 29. But yeah, I don't see him going on the road again. He made a fortune in UFC and from what I remember reading, he saved the majority of his money from his original WWE run. Brock doesn't need Vince, so why rush it?
 
I wasn't expecting him there anyway so it doesn't matter to me much. Besides the card is already loaded with big matches in The Rock versus Cena, CM Punk versus Chris Jericho, and Triple H versus Undertaker. Brock would probably get lost in the shuffle.
 
klunderbunker said:
Very simply put: why would Vince want to waste a major return like Brock on a show where one of the biggest stars ever is going to be in one of the biggest matches ever? It's like pouring money away because Lesnar alone is going to draw big. Therefore, what's the point in having him on the same show as Rock, who is going to draw a million buys? Save Brock for something like Summerslam or Mania 29. But yeah, I don't see him going on the road again. He made a fortune in UFC and from what I remember reading, he saved the majority of his money from his original WWE run. Brock doesn't need Vince, so why rush it?
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I'll agree with you KB. Brock is huge but it would a waste of time to use at this year's WM. He also has more than thousands of dollars for a long time. If he were to come back the setting as to be good. I would say a return in WM 30. By then his return would more than possibly huge. So, yeah lets just wait cause he also needs to rest some of his wounds.
 
I was thinking that, if he does ever do another match, it would be great to see him do a SummerSlam match with Punk. With Punk's love for breaking the 4th wall and MMA, he could do some great stuff to antagonize Brock. Punk could probably make him legitimately angry.

I don't think Brock needs to do WrestleMania. I'm over him challenging the streak, and I don't see him and Punk being a WM match. Unless Brock were going to challenge HHH, which I totally think would make for an awesome grudge match (ultimate corporate guy versus the guy who ditched the company), at WM, color me unenthusiastic.

I don't see any of this happening soon, though. I fully expect Brock to take some time off. Maybe if 2013 rolls around and he gets slammed on his taxes, then sure, I'll buy it. Unless that happens, Brock doesn't need WWE and I kind of feel like WWE doesn't really need him, either. They can get the buyrates without him.
 
It's funny how people judge The Rock for going to Hollywood and people don't care that Brock left for UFC. I'm not particularly judging anybody here but just in general. The Rock left for Hollywood and politely asked to be called Dwayne Johnson instead of The Rock because he wanted to separate his acting and wrestling which is okay. The Rock did not bad mouth WWE once. Brock Lesnar always bad mouths WWE always. Why should us Wrestling fans even accept Lesnar after how badly he got his ass kicked in his last fight. Us Wrestling fans shouldn't even accept Lesnar unless he goes and has a fight with anybody most likely Frank Mir and kick the shit out of him, then retires for good and returns to Wrestling.

I'm no Lesnar hater, I thought the guy was completely badass. I'd prefer him over Cena anyday. He was supposed to be the face of the company and currently would be if he never left.
 
Even though Brock Lesnar has retired from active MMA, he is still under contract to Zuffa, the parent company of UFC. Thsu Brock is unable to appear on any WWE programming whether he wanted to or not.
Vince would not blow millions on having an appearance by Brock when there is no plausible reason for him to interfere or even appear in any of the scheduled matches.
Its bad enough Albert/A-Train is being sounded out as returning the night after MANIA 28, so dont exepct to see Brock returning anytime soon. Once his UFC contract has expired and Brock is a fre agent, only then would he contemplate negotiations with WWE. Brock has stated he would only come back for one off matches here and there, he has no desire to return full time and absolutely no desirte to go on the road away from his wife and kids. Not happening
 
Is anyone else tired of hearing people say that Vince wouldn't throw money away by putting Austin or Lesnar on the card with the Rock V Cena... Back in the day that did not matter, it was all about making a great show... People actually think too much talent on one card is a bad thing or bad for business? How can the greatest card ever not be talked about for years to come, & how can that not help sells? So with that being said, I would love to see Lesnar come in and F5 The Rock then F5 Cena at Mania and just walk out... That would be fun...
 
He doesn't need to return at the moment. Like everyone is saying the Wrestlemania card is already stacked as it is. Brock Lesnar wouldn't be in the shadow of anyone if he returned. If he did return i would like to see Brock Lesnar vs Stone Cold Steve Austin. That would be a great match. Besides that there isn't many people to work with right now besides Cena or Orton. CM Punk wouldn't be taken seriously against Lesnar. Undertaker is almost out. Maybe Triple H. But who knows.
 
LeviCook said:
He doesn't need to return at the moment. Like everyone is saying the Wrestlemania card is already stacked as it is. Brock Lesnar wouldn't be in the shadow of anyone if he returned. If he did return i would like to see Brock Lesnar vs Stone Cold Steve Austin. That would be a great match. Besides that there isn't many people to work with right now besides Cena or Orton. CM Punk wouldn't be taken seriously against Lesnar. Undertaker is almost out. Maybe Triple H. But who knows.
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why couldn't punk fight lesnar this is wrestling not ufc
 
Well, if anything on the rumor mill can be believed (A-Train is coming back!.....No, he's not!) it at least seems that Brock would be interested in doing a few PPVs for WWE in the future......and the future would be a good time for it since this year's show doesn't need two returning legends.

I've presumed all along that UFC management was only nixing Brock's participation as a way to get WWE to pay them some sort of "permission" fee. After all, if Brock is effectively retired from mixed martial arts fighting, why in the world would UFC deny him a payday? If he was still fighting for them, it's understandable the MMA people wouldn't want him to risk injury. But otherwise, if they could get WWE to fork up a fee or some other quid pro quo, why not allow it?

I think Vince McMahon has set the wheels in motion for a future Brock Lesnar match, at a time after his UFC obligations have expired...... and at a time when there's no Dwayne Johnson to spice up the PPV. It's all good.
 
i can see most people dont have the knowledge on this situation so let me break it down as a avid mma fan. when brock retired, everyone in wrestling went crazy thinking brock will be returning. anyone who follows mma news closely knew this wouldnt be as easy as that. there are many obstacles here for him to come back to wrestling. Brock retired under contract, which zuffa has shown in the past they are very strict about. Randy couture retired under a similar circumstance years ago, and then a big money fightwith fedor came up so it was heavily rumored couture would fight. Zuffa took couture to court and won which if couture fought in affliction he would be sued for pretty much everything he owned. also during this case it was revealed top fighters make alot more money than what was shown to the public. Top guys make ppv and gate percentage. For brocks ufc 100 win he made 3 million for the fight. For brock to return , vince would have to pay out HUGE....and im not sure vince is willing to pay that fee. Vince would first have to buyout brocks contract. brock was ufcs top money maker and figure they were paying him 1.5-2.5 mill a fight, vince would have to cover that plus profit that zuffa would of made on him. Now you have to muliply that by how many fights brock had left. Ontop of that, now vince would have to pay brock his wwe salary. Its alot of money to pay out for someone who will not be wrestling full time as hes stated hundreds of times he hates traveling(one of the reasons he failed in mma).... for everyone so sure hes coming back, think business wise on vinces in.....theres a TON of risk, is the reward even close? brocks burned wwe before and has nothing but bashed them since he left. brock even states if he came back, it would be for like 1 match. Why pay allllll that money for that. as someone else stated , brock wasnt stupid with his money and brock lives a very very simple life unlike most of us. the guy doesnt even own a tv and just got a computer recently due to ufc pushing for twitter use. with what he has already and is getting from royalties he doesnt need to do anything
 
As KB already said Brocks return in itself will be the draw!! Vince no way would waste that opportunity!! From Brocks first run with the WWE he made a ton of money. And brock is a smart guy so he saved most of it. Jump to the UFC where he probably made more money than with the E!!

Brock is no hurry to come back and IMO i dont think we will see him anytime soon. He hates the travel that alone makes me think he wont be back except on special occassions like summerslam Survivor series,RR,WM!! Just maybe special matches i think will fit the bill for him if and when he wants to come back.

Im sure the audience will welcome him back with open arms and he is freakish athlete and i wish he was still with the WWE! Just my opinion on the matter and WM is stacked enough no need for brock
 
His UFC contract wouldn't be an issue. Dana already said he wouldn't prevent Brock from making a living doing something else as long as it wasn't MMA.
 
Well he could but the size and strength could be a problem. When you look at CM Punk and then look at Lesnar you don't think CM Punk would stand a chance. They could have good matches but don't know. I don't think it would be believable. When you think back to the people who use to put over Lesnar. He squashed people the size of Punk.
 
I'm a huge Lesnar fan, from the very beginning of his career in WWE to what he's continuing to do now in UFC. I'm incomparably happy for the success he's found following his college amateur wrestling days.

Am I happy that Lesnar is going to miss performing in this year's Mania? It's a bittersweet joy, but yes, I'm okay with it. Lesnar is going to be happy for the next few years of his life doing his own thing and likely the folks at UFC will pay one of their biggest draws enough doing promotional work to keep him away from WWE.

Being this close after his final fight plays a factor, too. Is four months too short to expect Lesnar to recover & shake off a few years of pro wrestling ring rust? Possibly, especially considering the towering expectations we'd have for him.

As for now, he gets to spend time with his family and without abusing his body on the road or in the ring. He's given us some great moments & matches in the WWE and although from a personal standpoint his presence will be missed, I'm happy he's doing what's right for him. Maybe we'll see him down the road at another Mania. Until next time, layer on the ass cream, have a couple of Steveweisers, avoid the negativity around you and best regards, wrestling fans.

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I never really expected him to show up so it's no big deal at all in my view. The WM card is already friggin' stacked and looks to be the overall strongest in years in terms of both huge stars and potential match quality, so I see nothing at all to complain about.

Lesnar was something back in his day but, honestly, I think people just need to move on and leave the past in the past. Lesnar has stated time and time again that he has no desire to return to pro wrestling, due in large part to the hectic WWE schedule. Lesnar would probably agree to a special appearance, such as WM next year, but I bet Vince would have to pay more than any other special participant for the show. Just having Lesnar pop up all of a sudden would be a shocking surprise and it'd be a memorable moment, but where's the money in that? If it doesn't make good financial sense, Vince won't sacrifice cold hard cash just for a shocking moment.

Maybe Lesnar will be part of WM or something along those lines at some point in time. If he does, great. If not, meh, life goes on.
 
It's rumored that a lot of people return to wrestling, or to the WWE, because they're broke. Just my opinion but weighing his fight salaries and endorsements against his lifestyle as represented in interviews and pre fight shows he's not going broke. That's neglecting his hunting and outdoorsmen endorsements that may or may not be worth a lot.

He said he wanted to hang out with his family and be a dad. There's no reason not to believe that. If he's financial stabile and places priorities on his family it'll take a lot of money to peak his interest. Maybe he wants too much and Vince isn't interested. Maybe Vince isn't interested regardless of the asking price.

There's been nothing but speculation and rumors. I don't see a WWE return in his near future. If I'm wrong I'll be surprised and excited about it, and that's a good thing.
 
To answer the actual thread question, obviously I'm not happy he's not suppose to be at Wrestlemania, but I'm not upset. The card has 3 matches I'd pay to see on their own, and that to me makes this Wrestlemania a very strong one, and one of the most anticipated ones in recent years.

But to answer the question if I'd want to see Brock in WWE again, well obviously. For me, he's an automatic draw. There's big monster heels, and then there's Brock Lesnar. His time in WWE was awesome, I'd love to see it again.

Now to turn into a fantasy land, just imagine this scenario. After Cena beats The Rock at Wrestlemania in a ridiculous battle (shades of HBK/Taker), he comes out on RAW next week to address it. Then out of nowhere, Brock Lesnar comes out and just destroys him. Now you may not like it, but you can bet your caterpillars (never used that before, probably never will again) I'd be tuning in the following weeks.
 
Brock verses Cena next years wrestlemania would be the most epic. Brock verses Taker to me is not smart because its a loose loose situation, Brock looses he looses his prestige, taker looses he looses his streak...cena has no shame in loosing to brock because thats brock.
 
@rossbreed - It's 'lose', not 'loose' and you're right. It would be strange to have Taker vs Brock. He would be the only guy that could legit lose to Taker and it wouldn't seem right because he's such a tough guy in real life. haha.

Brock at WM? That wouldn't make any sense not to mention the fact that there's been no talk about him whatsoever. I think he will return to a wrestling ring eventually, but for now he's just enjoying his life away from everyone and spending time with his family. I would love to see him in the WWE again, but it would only be part time of course.
 
To me, it's not that big of a deal. Since he JUST left UFC/MMA for good I was not expecting to see him in a WWE ring this year. Maybe next year have him a entrant at RR and eliminate the Superman John Cena.

I think having him eliminate John Cena at RR is the only feasible option for Brock to start a feud that can last until WM. It would be another one of those Brock vs. Cena one time only kinda deals they would advertise as. It could lose interest because it would be almost the exact same thing as this year.

Since we SHOULDN'T have Lesnar vs. Taker, I just don't see Brock returning until either next year at RR or the year after for WM30.
 
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