Smackdown has really disappointed me

[CelticCorey]

When the 2010 draft happened, I was excited RAW was getting all the big guys and Smackdown was getting a bunch of mid/upper mid-card guys. I was hoping that finally Smackdown could work on pushing new guys to the main event. I was hoping the likes of Christian and Kofi Kingston would be groomed and elevated to main event status. Little did I know that we would get months and months of Big Show and Rey burying younger talent. Now, Kane's first four months as champion was an epic win. I really enjoyed his feud with the Undertaker and that's the first time in a long time I got excited about veterans in the spotlight, but then Edge came along and ruined everything.

I am hoping for the life of me Alberto Del Rio either:

Wins the Rumble
Wins Money in the Bank
or
Wins the World Title

Smackdown was enjoyable for awhile but P.S. Hayes has dropped the ball big time on the younger talent and really had disappointed me. It turns out it was just more of the same.

 

[chapman_001]

I agree on Del Rio, and I think his inclusion in that 4 man match at TLC was surely a sign of things to come. I think to have him win the Rumble would be a great move, but my only worry is the sheer scope of people on Raw that almost need to win it to stay relevant at the minute, most notably Morrison

 

[Loveless Kidd]

Aren't you forgetting someone? Jack Swagger, he won the World Heavyweight Championship, and then after he lost it, he got buried!

 

[Long Island Iced WXYZ]

I hated Kanes' run as champion. Nothing but piss poor matches out of that.

And they took away all that time from younger guys who should have been in the spotlight like Christian.

Del Rio could win the Rumble, but I think Triple H might win it instead.

I agree with OP that Smackdown had a lot of potential this past year, but they squandered it by letting their top guys like Mysterio and Big Show bury the young guys. And we hear of a "youth movement" in WWE.

Who was elevated? Who did Smackdown build up this past year? No one.

CM Punk was established as a top heel in 2009, and then Mysterio killed all that momentum all year long.

What a terrible year for Smackdown. So much promise, and nothing delivered.

 

[LitasRevenge79]

I agree. I'm loving DelRio more and more each time I see him on TV. Its hard not to love him when he comes into the ring with his fine ass car, and his sweet announcer, who cares if you don't understand a single word being said. I just love the charisma this guy OOZES. He's phenomenal in the ring to see live. I seriously get amped each time I see there is a match on the card for him, I never knew he had MMA background after reading up on the fella, so he knows his stuff, and the heel tactics he does just make me all giddy inside since I'm a mark for the heels no matter what shows they are on. I can see why he was picked as #1 to watch in 2011 on WWE.com. He really knows how to work the crowd and make them despise him more. He's good, he's a good asset. LOVE it.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I hated Kanes' run as champion. Nothing but piss poor matches out of that.

Who would you have preferred to hold the title then?

And they took away all that time from younger guys who should have been in the spotlight like Christian.

Kane-43
Big Show-38
Christian-37
Rey Mysterio-36

Christian was only on Smackdown for five months and his injury helped build up Del Rio who is quickly getting overrated around these forums.

Del Rio could win the Rumble, but I think Triple H might win it instead.

Wouldn't have a problem with it. The Rumble is not about building up midcard guys.

I agree with OP that Smackdown had a lot of potential this past year, but they squandered it by letting their top guys like Mysterio and Big Show bury the young guys. And we hear of a "youth movement" in WWE.

Jack Swagger was champion right? He wasn't ready for it and he has had better matches since being champion. They should have waited a year later so look for him to be a major player after WM.

It's still sad that people don't know the definition of "buried" in the wrestling industry.

Who was elevated? Who did Smackdown build up this past year? No one.

Dolph Ziggler. Has been IC champion for half a year. Has had great matches with Bryan, Kofi, and Cena.

CM Punk was established as a top heel in 2009, and then Mysterio killed all that momentum all year long

.

Three months equals a year now. I confused.

I guess you haven't been watching Raw lately.

What a terrible year for Smackdown. So much promise, and nothing delivered.

Are you sure you watch Smackdown?

 

[CelticCorey]

Note how I said after the draft. Jack Swagger was champion before during and after the draft.

It seems to me like Little Jerry Lawler, with all due respect, isn't a fan of the pushing of the mid card guys.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Note how I said after the draft. Jack Swagger was champion before during and after the draft.

It seems to me like Little Jerry Lawler, with all due respect, isn't a fan of the pushing of the mid card guys.

Wait a minute. Didn't I say that it wasn't the right time for Swagger to be champion and he has been having better matches as of late. Stay with me now. That's after the draft.

I believe I also said something about Ziggler and how he has really stepped it up. My mind wanders sometimes. Oh wait a minute.

Dolph Ziggler. Has been IC champion for half a year. Has had great matches with Bryan, Kofi, and Cena.

Now how does that seem to you?

 

[CelticCorey]

Yes he has stepped it up; but I was hoping we'd see new stars going after the WHC. Not the veterans dominating the main event scene.

 

[Decarow]

So, CelticCorey, you're saying you want to diminish the WHC by having all the new stars winning it? The way you're describing it, you are making the WHC look like the IC. How long have you been watching wrestling brah? Not everybody wins the IC title, and even fewer win a world title. It's simple as that. I'm tired of ignorant fans like you wanting a brand new guy to go after a world title a week after they debut. These things need time to build up. It takes most people YEARS to win a world title.

The WWE has their Main Event Card planned out, they aren't going to push their huge draws to the side for somebody who hasn't been around for a while. Yes, it's cool to watch somebody win a title, especially if you've been watching their debuts.

Wanna know one of the reasons most people have to wait so long? Cus the longer you stay with the company and in the business, it shows you care more. Brock Lesnar didn't care, and he left the E in the dust. Veterans have better title reigns (compare a Cena reign to Swagger's reign).

I'm sorry, but if you don't like that Smackdown isn't pushing young stars, you would have hated wrestling in the 80s and 90s.

 

[The Raven's Epitaph]

2010 wasn't a terrible year for Smackdown at all. It might have started off slow, I'll admit that much, but it progressively got more entertaining during the May-June period up until the end of the year.

I don't see how you can come off a year of Smackdown like 2010 and be dissapointed. Chris Jericho and Edge had a solid feud leading up to (and past) WrestleMania, Kane and Rey Mysterio had their feud when Kane (after over a decades worth of work) finally gets the World Championship back and has a really powerful reign as champion, Jack Swagger earns his first major title by cashing in just 6 days after WrestleMania, Undertaker returns to in ring competition, despite becoming injured again, but that's to be expected from Undertaker.

Really, the list could go on and on and I haven't even begun to mention any of the pay per views yet. Honestly, Smackdown was really good last year and I'm more than sure that 2011 is going to be exactly the same. If I were you, I'd bet a dollar or two on the younger talent and new talent this year. Alberto Del Rio is one to look out for, the same with McIntyre, Swagger and Kingston.

 

[CelticCorey]

So, CelticCorey, you're saying you want to diminish the WHC by having all the new stars winning it? The way you're describing it, you are making the WHC look like the IC. How long have you been watching wrestling brah? Not everybody wins the IC title, and even fewer win a world title. It's simple as that. I'm tired of ignorant fans like you wanting a brand new guy to go after a world title a week after they debut. These things need time to build up. It takes most people YEARS to win a world title.

The WWE has their Main Event Card planned out, they aren't going to push their huge draws to the side for somebody who hasn't been around for a while. Yes, it's cool to watch somebody win a title, especially if you've been watching their debuts.

Wanna know one of the reasons most people have to wait so long? Cus the longer you stay with the company and in the business, it shows you care more. Brock Lesnar didn't care, and he left the E in the dust. Veterans have better title reigns (compare a Cena reign to Swagger's reign).

I'm sorry, but if you don't like that Smackdown isn't pushing young stars, you would have hated wrestling in the 80s and 90s.

I am NOT saying that ALL new stars should win it, but certainly new guys should have at least contended for the title, should have entered the picture. They didn't have to win it but damnit I was hoping new guys would at least get shots. They would be built up right.

I have been watching wrestling since 1996-1997 when I watched WCW. I'm not saying every new guy should win a World Title but damnit I want to see midcarders get pushed. I'm not talking about Big Zeke or Tyler Reks- fuck those guys. Kofi Kingston doesn't need the IC title and I think he has accomplished enough as a mid-carder to get elevated. I was a fan of the company during the Attitude Era and since I was a kid I wanted Austin and Rock and all those guys. I DON'T mind if veterans are in the picture if it's someone like Punk, Kane, or Jericho.

Orton is bland, Mysterio is annoying. Big Show is annoying. I'm sick of Cena. HHH is too old. Edge puts on good matches but he doesn't do it for me.

Don't call me an ignorant wrestling fan. Like I said the guys don't have to win but damnit I don't want to CONSTANTLY see the same damn people OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!! Christian has been in the company for over 10 years, give or take a few in TNA. Christian is over with the crowd. You could stick DiBiase, Kingston, McIntyre, Edge- it doesn't matter who- Christian could carry anybody it seems to a good match. Christian has good mic skills. When Christian got drafted, him and Kingston were who I had in mind that they would shine. Not that we would see Big Show and Mysterio get a load of shots again.


Do you feel me?

 

[manstis1804]

So, CelticCorey, you're saying you want to diminish the WHC by having all the new stars winning it? The way you're describing it, you are making the WHC look like the IC. How long have you been watching wrestling brah? Not everybody wins the IC title, and even fewer win a world title. It's simple as that. I'm tired of ignorant fans like you wanting a brand new guy to go after a world title a week after they debut. These things need time to build up. It takes most people YEARS to win a world title.

The WWE has their Main Event Card planned out, they aren't going to push their huge draws to the side for somebody who hasn't been around for a while. Yes, it's cool to watch somebody win a title, especially if you've been watching their debuts.

Wanna know one of the reasons most people have to wait so long? Cus the longer you stay with the company and in the business, it shows you care more. Brock Lesnar didn't care, and he left the E in the dust. Veterans have better title reigns (compare a Cena reign to Swagger's reign).

I'm sorry, but if you don't like that Smackdown isn't pushing young stars, you would have hated wrestling in the 80s and 90s.

Besides the unfortunate use of 'brah', I wholeheartedly agree with this post. People bitch about guys like Kofi Kingston not main eventing yet or winning the world title, the dude's been in WWE for less than 3 years. Bret Hart was in WWE for 8 years before the winning the belt. Bret Hart is also way way way better than Kofi Kingston will ever dream of being. I know you think WWE's some kind of star system now where they just do a little bit of this and a little bit of that and POOF! a new star is born, but it doesn't always work that way, for various reasons.

 

[Long Island Iced WXYZ]

Who would you have preferred to hold the title then?

Jack Swagger. They shouldn't have taken the belt off of him at Fatal 4 Way. Mysterio didn't need it. You gotta build new stars.

Kane-43
Big Show-38
Christian-37
Rey Mysterio-36

Christian was only on Smackdown for five months and his injury helped build up Del Rio who is quickly getting overrated around these forums.

I was using younger interchangeably with new. I'll be clearer next time.

And Christian was on ECW carrying that brand before they killed it.

He had good matches with Swagger and an underrated match with Ezekiel Jackson at the Royal Rumble.

Wouldn't have a problem with it. The Rumble is not about building up midcard guys.

Agreed, I wish they did use the Rumble to elevate mid card guys but looks like MITB is doing that now.

Jack Swagger was champion right? He wasn't ready for it and he has had better matches since being champion. They should have waited a year later so look for him to be a major player after WM.

He was champion and his reign was terrible, his matches were terrible.

And he's had better matches before his reign and after like you've said.

I agree it was rushed, he wasn't ready. Hopefully he can get back on track. I'd like to see a talent like him in the main event scene again.

It's still sad that people don't know the definition of "buried" in the wrestling industry.

Care to tell everyone the definition then? From what Wikipedia says:

refers to the worked lowering (relegation) of a popular wrestler's status in the eyes of the fans. It is the act of a promoter or booker causing a wrestler to lose popularity by forcing him to lose in squash matches, continuously, and/or participate in unentertaining or degrading storylines. It can be a form of punishment for real-life backstage disagreements or feuds between the wrestler and the booker, the wrestler falling out of favor with the company, or the wrestler receiving an unpopular gimmick that causes him to lose credibility regardless of win-loss record. It is also a result of a company seeing a wrestler as having no potential or charisma.

CM Punk had a whole load of steam in 2009 and then he lost to the Undertaker at HITC and then was jobbing all if not most of 2010.

Dolph Ziggler. Has been IC champion for half a year. Has had great matches with Bryan, Kofi, and Cena.

Agreed, although if it wasn't for Vickie Guerrero he wouldn't have been IC Champ.

Three months equals a year now. I confused.

Me too, just hyperbole.

I guess you haven't been watching Raw lately.

Oh I have, Punk is great on the mic. And if he's going to go after Cena, he's going to need all the help he can get.

Are you sure you watch Smackdown?

Every friday nights on The Score.

 

[Notorious KJE]

I like Smackdown way better than RAW nowadays. They put on much better matches week in and week out. I don't give a fuck about "big names". I care about good matches. For people complaining about Kane's title reign, I'd say Kane is a far better worker than Sheamus and The Miz (even though I like Sheamus) and Kane deserved to hold the title after being buried for so long. I actually wish his reign would have lasted a bit longer.

Also, who is RAW pushing besides Nexus. The Miz?? Dude sucks, arguably the worst WWE champion of all time. John Morrison?? I like him but he's no higher on the card now than he was on Smackdown. Daniel Bryan?? He deserves better than some lame ass angle with the Bella Twins.

Smackdown is pushing Alberto Del Rio, Kofi Kingston, Dolph Ziggler, and the newly aquired Wade Barrett whom I think will look even more credible without Nexus.

The fact that there's no John Cena or Randy Orton on Smackdown actually works in their favor because there's no glass ceiling on Smackdown like their is on RAW. Someone like Del Rio can win the championship faster on Smackdown, whereas someone like Daniel Bryan - despite all of his talent - ain't gonna get the world title on RAW anytime soon. And with HHH's eventual comeback, that glass ceiling gets even higher.

I don't see why anyone other than a mark wouldn't like Smackdown, but it's whatever. It's the best wrestling show on TV IMO.