Should TNA Add a Mid-Card Title?

[SavageTaker]

Right now TNA has 5 different titles but I feel that they are missing one title. They have the TNA World Title which is for reserved for the main-eventers in the company. Then they have the TNA Legends Title which is reserved for the legends of pro-wrestling that they have in their roster. Next is the TNA World Tag Team Titles, which are obviously for their tag-team division. They also have the X-Division Title, which is reserved for the high-flyers but has also been held by some people who are not high-flyers. Finally, they have the knockouts title which is for the women. Notice how they have a title for everyone except for one group of wrestlers. The “mid-Carders” in TNA don’t have a title that they can compete for. So my question for you is: Do you think that TNA should add a new title for their mid-carders to compete and feud for?

My answer is yes. I think that they have enough guys right now to have a solid mid-card division. There also seems to be a couple more guys that they might be signing so they can add them to the mix. Right now, those mid-carders don’t have anything to feud over. So it’s like they are feuding for the sake of feuding. With a title added for them to compete for, it could make feuds better. Also, TNA could use a mid-card title as a stepping stone. This could help them tremendously because it helps them build-up guys that they might use in the main-event once a lot of the guys they are using in the main-event decide to retire or in case they leave. I would love to see them have a mid-card title so that the mid-carders have their own division to feud within and it can make feuds better. It would make shows seem more organized because we wouldn’t be seeing guys who would be in a mid-card division feuding with guys in the X-Division. The last reason I would like to see a mid-card title is because they could use the title as a stepping stone for future main-eventers.

Do you think that TNA should add a new title for their mid-carders to compete and feud for?

 

[Marquis]

They have a Mid-Card title, it's called the X Division belt. With Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle both being former holders of the belt, it means its pretty much open to anyone. Seeing as how the only 3 single titles in TNA consists of the TNA World Heavyweight Champion(main event title), Legends Title(A prop title of the Mafia's), and then the X-Division belt which is apparently open to anyone. The X-Division title would be their mid-card belt. So no, I don't think TNA should add a Mid-card belt. I see the X-Division title as their mid-card belt. Maybe rename the X-division belt, but that's about it.

 

[The Hiphopapotamus]

See,part of me says yes,and part says no.Why,well:

YES:TNA has too many wrestlers that are just wandering around the mid card at the moment.They just have nothing to aim for.The MEM's older members are dominating the main event and upper mid card.Sting v Angle for world title. Nash vs Foley for Legends title.So where does that leave wrestlers like Samoa Joe,Hernandez and Aj Styles,among others.Just fighting each other.The X division is below them.They have a penis so the knockouts are a no.They don't have a tag team.And the main event titles are just being clogged with the old guys.If they don't get their hands on a title of some sort,they will begin to lose momentum.Hernandez is the one who really needs that elusive singles title to give him a push. Eric Young is another.he needs a title for his new stance as leader of the World Elite.

So the obvious choice would be to give them a mid card title.No,there is a bit of a problem.

NO:TNA's roster is already too clogged.Every show and pay per view is like one big clusterfuck.They try and stick wrestlers in with crappy short matches.If they add another title,they will just add more and more wrestlers.When you think of most of the mid carders in TNA,a lot of them are X Division wrestlers. If they can't win their own division's title,they really can't be viable candidates for this title.And who's to say that it won't go the way of the legend's title and become a joke.Who's to say the mafia won't just take it overr and ruin it with someone like Nash as the champ.The argument can also be made with the X division title.TNA should try and improve that title,instead of making a new one.


To be honest,I do think they need a secondary title,but maybe in a while,or untill the mafia leaves.Then it will really be able to blossom.Or they should just,you know,improve the X division

 

[Dexter]

Serious question here, pertaining to the topic. Where does the Legends title fall in the TNA belt hierarchy? Theoretically, I mean. I know a lot of people think it's a meaningless title, but putting that aside and just considering the notion TNA has in mind, where does it fall in the hierarchy?

That's just something I've yet to figure out. I'm not quite sure I understand the point of the belt.

 

[Harthan]

No, goodness, no.

TNA has, from the very start, been all about being different than the WWE. Hence, the X Division. Rather than create an Intercontinental or Television belt, they decided that their midcard, their attraction outside the main event, was going to be high flying, high risk, high intensity, no limits action. And it made TNA stand out from every other indy company (that, and a bunch of ex WCW talent) and become the #2 promotion to challenge the WWE. Unfortunately, TNA has somewhat let the X Division fall to the wayside, not giving it any real exposure in the MEM feud until just recently when Joe attempted to win it. However, if you'll notice, going through PPV matches, the X Division attraction, usually with only a bare bones story and no connection to the Mafia at all, has been the highlight, or one of the highlights of the night. From Ultimate X to KOTM to Daniels vs Suicide, it's produced the classic matches on the PPV cards, like it always has, but gets no love on TV or in promo time. Nevertheless, even with no promos, and at best a few backstage interviews, the belt and its challengers are producing the quality matches on TV and PPV, just subtly. There's no call to bring a midcard belt to draw more attention away from them, when TNA and its fans should be investing far more into them.

And besides, who's gonna compete for this belt? The only guys that don't "fit" the X Division and who couldn't challenge realistically for the WHC (at least, right now) are like, Abyss and Hernandez, and both of them could fit better in non title feuds or challenging for the Legends or world title. It'd be silly to dilute the X Division by distracting guys from it to challenge for another, pointless midcard belt.

There's absolutely no call for another midcard belt in TNA, when it would have no competition separate from the X Division title, would only dilute and distract from the X Division, and would just clutter things up even more.

 

[SavageTaker]

They have a Mid-Card title, it's called the X Division belt. With Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle both being former holders of the belt, it means its pretty much open to anyone. Seeing as how the only 3 single titles in TNA consists of the TNA World Heavyweight Champion(main event title), Legends Title(A prop title of the Mafia's), and then the X-Division belt which is apparently open to anyone. The X-Division title would be their mid-card belt. So no, I don't think TNA should add a Mid-card belt. I see the X-Division title as their mid-card belt. Maybe rename the X-division belt, but that's about it.

Well in my opinion it’s a problem if they have all of the mid-carders and X-Division superstars mixed in one division. The mid-carders should have their division so that they can feud with guys that are their or near their size and the X-Division should have their own division where they feud with guys that are like them. It just seems rather silly that for example someone who would be on the mid-card like Hernandez can face someone that should be on the X-division like Amazing Red. Basically, what I’m saying is that a mid-card title would separate them and it allows for them to feud with guys who they should be feuding with. A mid-card title would just make the divisions seem more organized in my opinion because the talent would only be fighting those withing their division.

Serious question here, pertaining to the topic. Where does the Legends title fall in the TNA belt hierarchy? Theoretically, I mean. I know a lot of people think it's a meaningless title, but putting that aside and just considering the notion TNA has in mind, where does it fall in the hierarchy?

That's just something I've yet to figure out. I'm not quite sure I understand the point of the belt.

Good questions and it’s one that I’ve thought about before. I think it is either considered an upper-mid card belt for guys who aren’t involved in the main-event but aren’t considered mid-carders, like Kevin Nash and Mick Foley. Right now it appears they are going to be out of the main-event so they get moved down to an upper mid-card “division”. Or it could be a way to show that the MEM is filled with guys who are legends and that they are fighting legends so they are willing to put the title on the line.

 

[Marquis]

Well in my opinion it’s a problem if they have all of the mid-carders and X-Division superstars mixed in one division. The mid-carders should have their division so that they can feud with guys that are their or near their size and the X-Division should have their own division where they feud with guys that are like them. It just seems rather silly that for example someone who would be on the mid-card like Hernandez can face someone that should be on the X-division like Amazing Red. Basically, what I’m saying is that a mid-card title would separate them and it allows for them to feud with guys who they should be feuding with. A mid-card title would just make the divisions seem more organized in my opinion because the talent would only be fighting those withing their division.

I don't see why it seems silly. In a midcard division all types of sizes and wrestling styles compete against each other. Why would it be any different for the X-Division? It's shown its not only a division for high flyers, so like any normal Mid-card division it should be open to all. As for organized, I would think just throwing all the Mid-Carders in the X-Division would be more organized and less complicated. If you add a mid card title that will be 3 non main event single titles in one show, which would complicate things, and seem kinda messy to me.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Nope, not at all. Personally, I think they should just do away with the Legends title altogether and bring prominence bck to the X-Division title. For all intents and purposes, the X-Division is little more than a cruiserweight division. I thought the whole purpose of the division was a sort of "no limits" sort of deal where wrestlers of all shapes and sizes compete for a coveted title. With the exception of the Joe/Homicide match two weeks ago, I can't remember the last time a 230 pound or more guy had a match for it.

I don't really see a point to the Legends title at all really. It's a title that really only makes sense if you put it on an older guy, and even then I really don't see the point in essentially creating a geriactric division just to put a belt on someone.

 

[Spjadoe05]

Well in my opinion it’s a problem if they have all of the mid-carders and X-Division superstars mixed in one division. The mid-carders should have their division so that they can feud with guys that are their or near their size and the X-Division should have their own division where they feud with guys that are like them. It just seems rather silly that for example someone who would be on the mid-card like Hernandez can face someone that should be on the X-division like Amazing Red. Basically, what I’m saying is that a mid-card title would separate them and it allows for them to feud with guys who they should be feuding with. A mid-card title would just make the divisions seem more organized in my opinion because the talent would only be fighting those withing their division.

I think you are misunderstanding what they are saying. and if not i'll explain what i got from it. i don't think they are saying the midcarders use the x division title, the x division title is the mid card title. TNAs original intent was to be different than pro wrestling's past. for the sake of this argument let's say they are succeeding. where is the rule that says people have to fight people who look and move exactly like them? some could say it seems you are stuck in a "traditional" (or for some of the younger fans the "WWE") mindset. the x division title is/was given to people to show their character and get them more exposure. it allows people to get behind the wrestlers. feuds in the x division often are over actual storylines rather than just being about the belt. these are all characteristics of a mid card title.

 

[gd]

No, no, no, no. The last thing TNA needs right now is another title. They already have 6 titles counting the whatever tag belts the British Invasion have, and 7 if you count the MCMG's titles. They barely have time to build up any feuds for their current belts with all of the MEM business. The X Division belt has suffered the most. Another belt is just going to be overkill and complicate things more.

Furthermore, I'm not sure there would be enough guys to compete for such a belt. Guys would jump around from one title chase to another and things would just get to confusing and senseless. The X Divsion belt can certainly serve fine as the mid card belt, it isn't subject to weight restrictions like a Cruiserweight Belt. The Tag Team belts are also other tools that can be used to eleveate mid carders. There are many other ways for guys to be propelled to the main event without adding another belt.

 

[farlance]

Weather you like to admit it or not the x division belt is mainly contended and held by the lighter weight guys. I think they should get rid of the legends belt and have a mid card belt for guys that aren't x division caliber and aren't quite main event material.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

"Yes, but..." would be my response. A midcard title would work in TNA, but only if they did a few other things:

1. Get rid of the Legends title. The Legends title is absolutely 100% useless. I have no clue why they added such a thing in the first place. It must just be that they're an instant gratification type of company rather than thinking long-term. Have someone change the name of it or merge it with a brand new midcard belt or something. Either way, just get rid of it.

2. Either convert the X-Division to a bonafide Cruiserweight championship back to the weight limit category, or merge that with the new midcard title, OR just use the X-Division title as the midcard one and stop making it seem like a light heavyweight segment.

3. Focus. One of the reasons that I can never get into TNA is it seems like they never really have a legitimate plan to anything and just go ppv by ppv on a whim. What happened to the Frontline/MEM storyline? That went absolutely nowhere. What was the point in Lethal Consequences winning the tag team titles from Beer Money other than to just give Beer Money some more ink on their resume with another reign? If they were to do a midcard title that would revolve around something similar to the IC/US titles, they would need to keep focus and put it on someone that they could build around.

 

[nwbronx]

TNA needs a TV title or something of the sort for sure. Def dont have a title for under card guys but more importantly tna needs to bring back the quality of wrestling they had in 05 and before and mix in some story lines with that. Right now Mick foley and nash holding belts is painful.

 

[Sasori]

No, NO more titles!
TNA already has a mid-card title and it's the X Division title, just like the previous posters pointed out. TNA is packed with titles! And not having a 'mid-card' title as you say ST is ******ed (no offense) because they have the X title and it hasn't bothered any one. TNA has a title for all of it's division so there is no point of having another title. The Legends title is already some jacked up shit I don't understand. Aren't all the legends other than Foley and Jarrett heel and in the Mafia? It's ******ed, and when AJ Styles won it, it made no sense! AJ is not a legend, YET. But yeah man, my over all answer is no.

 

[RH23]

I would consider the X-Division title to be the mid-card title for TNA. True its mostly held by the high-flyers of TNA, but TNA promotes the X-Division by saying "It's not about weight limits, it's about no limits!"-Mike Tenay. Its more of a mid-card title than a light heavyweight or cruiserweight division title.

 

[Suneeboy]

Like Vince Russo said, titles are props. Wrestling is fake. Titles have no real prestige. The prestige is around the stories and feuds for the title. You don't fight for a title, it is scripted to you.

I say make another title, it won't hurt TNA not one bit. I mean its not like they don't have enough wrestlers to make another division, why does everyone think wrestling titles have actual value? They are pre-scripted matches and you can give the title to who ever you want. It all comes down to creative and how they book the title, not the fact that the title exists.

Titles make feuds more important, point blank period.

 

[Dexter]

Like Vince Russo said, titles are props. Wrestling is fake. Titles have no real prestige. The prestige is around the stories and feuds for the title. You don't fight for a title, it is scripted to you.

I say make another title, it won't hurt TNA not one bit. I mean its not like they don't have enough wrestlers to make another division, why does everyone think wrestling titles have actual value? They are pre-scripted matches and you can give the title to who ever you want. It all comes down to creative and how they book the title, not the fact that the title exists.

Titles make feuds more important, point blank period.

While all of this is true, you still need to believably maintain the illusion of prestige for a title. You can really only get excited about a feud to the extent that you can suspend disbelief that the wrestlers actually care about winning it.

 

[GameOver]

I think you are misunderstanding what they are saying. and if not i'll explain what i got from it. i don't think they are saying the midcarders use the x division title, the x division title is the mid card title. TNAs original intent was to be different than pro wrestling's past. for the sake of this argument let's say they are succeeding. where is the rule that says people have to fight people who look and move exactly like them? some could say it seems you are stuck in a "traditional" (or for some of the younger fans the "WWE") mindset. the x division title is/was given to people to show their character and get them more exposure. it allows people to get behind the wrestlers. feuds in the x division often are over actual storylines rather than just being about the belt. these are all characteristics of a mid card title.

Um WWE hasn't singled out sizes for opponents in a long time, they pretty much did away with weight divisions at the end of the WCW/ECW invasion angle, hence why Rey Mysterio went to the world title and guys like CM Punk/Jeff Hardy are in the mine events despite being small in comparison to a "big guy" philosophy, anyone can go against anyone now, it's been that way for years. Sure the main event has usually been the same 8 guys but the rest of the roster competes against each other in differing fueds each few PPV's over the IC/US/Tag titles and personal fueds.

TNA doesn't need another belt, they need to use what they have better, the X-Division title has been competed in primarily by the same 7 guys for the past year and always in multi opponent gimmick matches. as has been stated the X-Division title was "a belt that anyone can compete for no weight requirement" not like the world title that was for the guys at the top of the ladder. as it stands the X-Division title atm is a mix of cruiserweight and hardcore which is not a bad thing. But it should be considered the TNA version of a IC title, the almost main eventers, the ones stepping up to upper mid card, stars of the future and the ones that aren't currently in a main event fued.

Legend title means nothings since the only TNA "Legend" that has held it is AJ Styles, Booker is not a TNA legend, Mick Foley is not a TNA Legend they were big names b4 they stepped foot in TNA. Saying that they've never stated it was the TNA Legends title it is the Legends title in which case only a handful people could compete for it.

same with WWE doesn't need a US/IC and Diva/Womens titles since neither get defended regularly as it is.

 

[Kane666]

TNA needs a TV title or something of the sort for sure. Def dont have a title for under card guys but more importantly tna needs to bring back the quality of wrestling they had in 05 and before and mix in some story lines with that. Right now Mick foley and nash holding belts is painful.

I agree with you bronx.if TNA is positioning itself to be the new WCW it needs a real midcard title.and i don't consider that to be the X-Division title.yes i know Joe and Angle have held it but it is basically a cruiserweight title.get rid of that damn Legends belt and add a TV title.i remember in the old NWA/WCW days the TV title was defended all the time.and bringing up all the great wrestlers over the years who were TV champs would give the belt instant prestige.