Should the Royal Rumble not be scripted?

[Rated_R_Edgehead]

Hey there, I'm not sure if one of these posts have already been made so if they have been could you please re-direct me towards it, thank you!

Anyway onto my post, do you think the Royal Rumble should or should not be scripted, I know that if it's not scripted then whoever wins it will put a lot of pressure onto the script writers cause they would have to quickly come up with a storyline among other things, but I just always like the fact that since the royal rumble is an "anyone can win game" then you would expect anyone to win, like if it wasn't scripted, would we see wrestlers put more heart and effort into trying to win considering they know they might have a chance to mainevent WM by winning this, it would most likely also lead to main event status, or so I would assume. And if it was like this, would you prefer it this way, like maybe if they did it just once to see what would happen and then revert back to scripting it.

Or would you just like to see it the way it is, and still scripted. Cause I know that if anyone one that wasn't really main event or over with the crowd won it, I'd tune into Raw or Smackdown the next day anyway, just to see what would happen!

 

[bcg60]

No, it would be way too dangerous for WWE to even consider it, the main part of scripting is to allow the wrestlers to protect themselves during the patch, and not even that works 100% of the time. I don't see WWE ever going away from script for a WHOLE match, maybe for a minute or two with a few superstars who have been together for along time, HHH and HBK as someone else said in a different thread.

It would probably be a giant clusterfuck of a failure also, so no.

 

[vertigolowe]

There is no such thing as an unscripted wrestling match. The finish of the match is always determined beforehand. Depending on how well the guys (or girls) in the ring work together, the rest of the match may or may not be fully scripted or the guys just improvise and work in their spots until the ref gives the signal to bring it home and then they do the pre-planned finish.

The finishes are come up with by the road agents to fit with who the bookers say should go over in the match. A match like the royal rumble is essentially a long series of finishes, so much more of the match has to be scripted. The wrestlers themselves almost never have any control over whether they win or lose. I only say almost never because guys like Hogan have the backstage power to make sure they are always put over and never have to look weak.

The situation you describe would absolutely never happen. If you'd like to travel down a theoretical road though, the match would go on for hours if it even ends at all. Think about how difficult it is to get a 200-300 lbs guy over the top and all the way to the floor when he doesn't jump to help get over the top or latches onto the ropes. Or just slides under the bottom and won't get back in.

So the short answer would be No, it's a terrible idea.

 

[CJ The Pirate]

This doesn't even make any sense. Most of the guys in WWE aren't technically gifted fighters, they just get by in the pretend world of pro wrestling because it's acting. It would just be crap and look crap. Also, what you are asking for is a complete brawl. 30 men all wanting to get to the top of the mountain.
WWE maybe a pantomime but that doesn't mean all the superstars are honest joes. There would be a fair amount of dirty fighting going on, some might even legitimately use weapons and cause someone an injury. I know if my boss told us we had carte blanche to do anything to gain promotion, I'd fight dirty to achieve it. I'm not gonna play by the rules and let someone lowball me.

Finally. This is Wrestlemania we are talking about. So what? Mark Henry or Khali would no doubt be strong favourites to win it in a legitimate brawl... would the WM main event be real to, or would that go back to script? Khali or Henry just wouldn't sell which is what is required for the biggest event of the year.

You sound like you need to start watching MMA. Get on the rising UFC bandwagon. People legitimately fight there and they advance their careers by winning.

 

[Jonnie Walker]

When's this going to the trash? This is a horrible idea. You could have Slam Master J win the Rumble. How awful would that be? If this were to happen, it would fuck the Road to Wrestlemania up bad.

 

[Rated_R_Edgehead]

Well thank you for all of your opinions, but I don't really want it to be like this, I've been an avid wwe fan for years and years, since the early 90's to be exact, so I know that it would in no way be a good idea to do it, that's why I said the word "if" quite a lot, I like to always think What if this happened... among other things like that.


But thank you for your opinions anyway!

 

[InterestingDrug]

Assume they dumped the script.. and by sheer fluke, someone like Chavo or Santino went nuts and won the Rumble.. Do you really think WWE would want this person as the main event at Wrestlemania? I highly doubt it. So an unscripted Rumble match would never happen.. or a unscripted match in general wouldnt even happen.

 

[Fallen Angel 21.3]

i think it should be scripted to a point like just have the final 2 picked out u know, then let anybody elimate whoever they wanted. Because lets be honest, the final two are always the ones who main event at mania. Just pick the 2 guys you want on that road, let whoever wins, wins. Then come up with a way to have the other get into a title picture at Wrestle Mania

 

[I_Like_All_Wrestling]

Do you mean having 30 dudes legitimately fight to see who gets to headline Wrestlemania? This includes men who have professional fighting training, amatuer wrestling backgrounds, soem with criminal backgrounds...all fighting for one of the biggest paydays of the year. That would be a complete and utter disaster.

If you legitimately had a chance to headline Wrestlemania because of a "real" Royal Rumble, people would be cheating, kicking/punching, whatever to get in that role. The payoff would he huge...some people would try anything to win, especially if they don't have a super secure role in WWE. Also, as others said. Imagine having Chavo or Santino of someone like that winning. It would be a disaster and cost WWE millions.

While I understand the entertainment value of a "what if" -- it will never happen due to so many reasons.

 

[SickJames]

HELL NO, do you know that means ANYONE can main event Mania who doesnt deserve it

Hornswoggle, The Zombie, Sheamus, The Gobbledy Gooker, The Brooklyn Brawler, Beth Phoenix, Drew Carey, David Arquette

too dangerous

(and for those of you saying how would some of these guys win, remember things like Ted DiBiase's money talks, The A.P.A., cheating & help in general, the extreme Royal Rumble in 2001
it could happen and it shouldnt, certain ppl should NEVER main event Mania)

 

[Razor]

It's a weird idea. Weird...intriguing even. But it's a very, very bad idea.

First off, lulz. You people are going right on down the slippery slope, aren't you? "They'll legitimately try to hurt each other! Hornswoggle might win!" Even if the RR wasn't scripted, no one would really try to hurt anyone else. That would get you immediately fired. I guarantee that. And you would probably get looked at as far as filing charges. There's a difference between both men agreeing to one of them taking a barbed wire bat shot and Kofi going up to Orton and cracking him over the head with the Ring Bell without Orton knowing anything was going to happen.

To get at the root of the matter, egos would get in the way. Michaels could then intimidate the other rookies into losing to him, or Mark Henry could simply stand still in the corner. No one is lifting that huge ass without him agreeing to it. Same goes for Big Show. Nothing would ever get done. We'd have Khali/Henry/Show in that ring for 30 minutes, trying to get each other over the top rope.

Good idea. Weird idea. But it would never, ever work. Never ever.

 

[Dagger Dias]

Having a Royal Rumble without predetermined results could potentially ruin Wrestlemania, they'd have to come up with some way to fix it on Raw/Smackdown or Elimination Chamber ASAP. What if a jobber won? What if someone that WWE wanted to win gets injured during the match and can't win? The winner of the Rumble gets a world title shot at Wrestlemania. That spot can't go to just anybody, and they run the risk of that spot going to a jobber or even a diva if the Rumble's outcome is not predetermined. If a mistake like that did happen, they could fix it on Raw/Smackdown or Elimination Chamber.... but that year's Rumble would STILL go down in history as a huge mistake, and that hurts the prestige of the show. Nobody wants that to happen. The Royal Rumble should always have predetermined outcomes and never be unscripted because they have a lot of plans for the main event at Wrestlemania that need to remain intact.... and at the same time keep on adding to the prestige of the Royal Rumble PPV.

 

[DexVendetta88]

Having an unscripted Royal Rumble is absolutely unacceptable because aside from protecting the wrestlers themselves, an unscripted match in general would break the very foundation that the wrestling industry is based on which is kayfabe. An unscripted Royal Rumble, as several others here have said is way too dangerous. With that many bodies in the ring at one time, and everyone really beating the hell out of each other it's guaranteed that there will be several legitimate injuries which even the top stars wouldn't be spared from. Also, this would give wrestlers an excuse to beat up on someone that they have personal problems with outside the ring which in turn could escalate those problems even further up to the point where criminal charges can be laid.

 

[The Doctor]

Basically, what Razor said. This could be a very interesting idea, but "interesting" does not always mean "good". Making the Royal Rumble "legit" would turn it into a massive clusterfuck, devoid of the cool spots we love, because no one wants to get dumped out of the ring.

The only way this could work is if they leave out the Mark Henrys and Big Shows, and pack it full of legitimate main eventers and midcarders that could be believable. If everyone had a fighting chance, it could be fun. It could also suck.

They tried something similar to this, with Brawl For All. That was semi-legit. And you know who won that? Bart Gunn. It's similar to the OMGZ SANTINO CUD WIN!!1! scenario people are saying could happen. And if we've learned anything from history, we've learned that something like this is a very bad idea.

Basically, I don't want to see it, at all. Fun to think about, but it wouldn't work in a million years.

The only way I wouldn't mind the Rumble to be "unscripted" would be if only a few spots were predetermined and the rest were unknown until the music hit. That could be interesting.

 

[INDYjon22]

I wouldn't be nearly as worried about the whole ruining the Main Event of Wrestlemania idea, but more worried about the injuries. You are suggesting letting 30 big dudes go into the ring one by one and beat the shit out of each other basically. That has disaster written all over it. Guys would be paying very little attention to their surroundings and injuries would occur. I can see it now, HHH is on the mat and The Great Khali isn't paying attention and steps on HHH's leg, thus breaking it.

Whereas your proposed idea is very interesting it has way to many issues that would come along with it. It seems like recipe for injuring a top guy seriously or for that matter any of the talent. To put it bluntly it would be a clusterfuck.

 

[GenMe]

What i think is that ofcourse the E will know who the Rumble winner will be and he also know that a main eventer will win it,Because if some one like Bourne wins it we will have a very fucked up mainevent for Mania.

But the problem that i have is that the E always gives out the winner.Like this years Rumble will all knew that Edge was going to win it.I dont care if the Scripts there winners,But i really dont want to know who the winner will be.Im tired of both companies TNA ans WWE always giving us the results before anything happends.

 

[Mr. TM]

Better yet, UFC should take this idea and run with it. Have 30 men enter a match together, and see what happens.

Nah, those are both ridicolous ideas. WWE has and always will be scripted, and 29 men enter that matching knowing that they will lose. But for those 1-60 minutes they are in there, they get to tell their story to the world with much of their own freedom. They just have to know when it is their time to go over the top rope.

 

[TheTruNoLimit]

While I believe this would be a horrible idea, I have always had a huge "WHAT IF" scenario concerning the Rumble.

Let's say WWE has decided HBK is the one going to win. But "what if" at one point or another where HBK is straddling the top rope in the corner trying to fight off elimination, he legitimately slips. Sure, a rarity, but with the ropes and the sweat and just straddling on the top rope, anything can happen, right?

Does WWE have so called "back up" plans for this? Do they have a list of superstars they prefer to win in that order? That would be an interesting list to see!

 

[vertigolowe]

While I believe this would be a horrible idea, I have always had a huge "WHAT IF" scenario concerning the Rumble.

Let's say WWE has decided HBK is the one going to win. But "what if" at one point or another where HBK is straddling the top rope in the corner trying to fight off elimination, he legitimately slips. Sure, a rarity, but with the ropes and the sweat and just straddling on the top rope, anything can happen, right?

Does WWE have so called "back up" plans for this? Do they have a list of superstars they prefer to win in that order? That would be an interesting list to see!

I would guess that they have a plan B in place for those type of situations. It would also depend on how bad the screw up was. The year the Rock won by having Big Show fall over him there was one camera angle that looked very much like Rock's feet hit the floor. They never really showed that angle again even when they were doing the thing where Show was accusing him of being eliminated. That would be one option, just pretend it didn't happen.

Another option would be like the year where Austin was eliminated by Hart then got back in the ring to win because the refs never saw him get eliminated. They could just fudge with the replays they show and say whoever it was cheated, but won.

If they didn't think they could get away with that because someone landed in a refs lap or something, they could just have the new winner lose their #1 contender spot to whoever they wanted to win later on. The year HHH won he had to defend his title shot at No Way Out.

As for who they would have step up it would probably just be a decision made backstage relayed to the announcers, then to a ref at ringside, then to the workers in the ring. The guys still in the match could stall until they get word about who goes over.