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Should Randy Orton go after the Streak again?

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Undertaker and Randy Orton had a massive fued in 2005 which is nearly a Decade ago. It was a great fued that started with a match at Wrestlemania 21, Summerslam 05, a Handicap Casket Match at No Mercy 05 and then it culminated at Armageddon that year inside Hell In A Cell.

Since that Hell In A Cell Match both men have gone on to have so much more success. Undertaker went on too win the World Championship numerous times followed by countless Epic Matches at each Wrestlemania against Batista, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Edge and CM Punk.

Randy Orton went on to gain even more Success by winning the WWE Championship in 2007 followed by countless more WWE and World Championship Riegns. He's had some of the best fueds to date with John Cena, Triple H, Sheamus, Christian and CM Punk.

Is it near time for Randy Orton to take on the Streak again? Looking back, Orton was still young in his career even after Evolution. His Career really got going in 07. Undertaker is barely around with the exception of Wrestlemania. I think after nearly 10 years these two could go again and it would be a completely different match from there Mania 21 Encounter. I hope they do lock horns in the future. It doesn't have to be at Wrestlemania but I hope it is.
 
Taker's days are numbered. How many more WM matches do you expect from him?

The year that Taker says "ok this is it", his opponent at WM will be Cena. And I think that will be next year.

Regardless if it's next year or 3 years from now, he only has a handful of matches left and I can't think of a less appealing opponent for him than Randy Orton. No more rematches with previous opponents, that's over with.
 
Taker's days are numbered. How many more WM matches do you expect from him?

The year that Taker says "ok this is it", his opponent at WM will be Cena. And I think that will be next year.

Regardless if it's next year or 3 years from now, he only has a handful of matches left and I can't think of a less appealing opponent for him than Randy Orton. No more rematches with previous opponents, that's over with.

I honestly don't expect much more from Taker and I do agree that a Taker/Cena match is on the table perhaps for next year but over the years WWE frequently reverts back to previous fueds as they don't give the younger talent a chance and if thats what WWE is aiming at then id personally like to see Taker and Orton again that is if Taker is still about...
 
One of the reasons why the build for Triple H VS Taker II at Wrestlemania 27 worked is, Taker and Triple H's last match at Wrestlemania happened at Mania 17. That's a big gap between rematches. The build worked for part III at Wrestlemania 28, because Taker's selling during and post match was brilliant. As fans, we could buy into the idea of Taker needing redemption for a tainted victory at Wrestlemania.

There's a big gap between Wrestlemania 21 and now, but I don't see the appeal in Orton VS Taker II. Taker doesn't have too many years left in the ring, and last year's match with Punk was VERY tamed, when you compare it to the Wrestlemania matches with Shawn and Triple H. We've seen Orton VS Taker at Wrestlemania before, but we've never seen Taker VS Cena, a legit dream match, at Wrestlemania.

It looks like we're headed for Cena VS Wyatt this year, but there's still a chance we could see Cena VS Taker next year. Taker is running on borrowed time, so I'd rather see a legit dream match against Cena, because a rematch with Orton doesn't have the same amount of zing.
 
He may have had a great feud a few years back but there was a pay off for that feud in the form of a Taker win. Taker only has one group of people he needs to revenge on and give fans the pay off and that is the Shield. Now I don't think he should face all 3 members but I think he should face and beat Roman Reigns while Ambrose and Rollins battle for the US title. Undertaker needs to get his pay off for the Shield attack and what better person than the man who speared him through a barricade and powerbombed him through an announce table. I think anyone other than the Shield feuding with Taker in someway building up to Mania is a letdown as I don't think he will wrestle another Mania and that's why he needs to finish by ending the open story he has left and that is how he responds to the attack.
 
In my opinion, No. There are so many superstars in the WWE who could gain a lot from match against Taker... Okay, even if we leave the "gaining from it" part aside, there are so many credible superstars and tag teams (that are both seen as tough, and capable of carrying the match) who haven't had a match against The Undertaker yet. I personally am against the idea of Undertaker facing the same guy at Wrestlemania more than once. Some people suggest that Kane should face Taker again, but I totally disagree. You have people like The Shield, Wyatt Family, Daniel Bryan, John Cena, Brock Lesnar, even Sting now... why send him against Randy Orton again? Also, when you look back at the end of his career of say, 25-0, it sounds much more cool to say/hear "defeated 20 different superstars over the span of 25 Wrestlemania(s)" rather than "15 superstars over the span of 25 Wrestlemania(s)"
 
Don't see how Orton could be viewed as a credible threat to the streak by the way he has been booked even though he is the champion. Only way he could be taken seriously is if he were to completely revert to the Viper/Predator type character and be booked super strong until WM31.

That being said, I don't have any interest in seeing Randy Orton challenge the Streak again. His time for that is gone.
My preferred options to challenge the Streak are:

Brock Lesnar
John Cena
Sting
the Rock

Those 4 are my picks. Lesnar seems to be all but confirmed for this year. I assume that WWE, too, see the hype and money in a Taker vs Cena match, but at the same time, they probably sit hoping that the Undertaker can keep good conditioning until 25-0(in the ideal world).

However, based on the reports about Taker's condition, him not being able to make it to 25-0, might well mean that the Streak might well be broken within the next couple of years,lMO.
 
I hope not. I'm hoping undertaker wrestles someone he hasn't faced at wrestlemania already this time.

I hated the vs HBK 2 and the vs Triple H 3. Not because they were bad matches but because they had already done it - at wrestlemania - the very year before.
 
it would make sense storyline wise and since he's a bigger star now then he ever was back then and he hasn't killed any legends in along time, plus he's done it all relatively speaking so like Triple H, Like HBK, Like CM Punk, Ric Flair etc. there motives was the one thing they had left to do was beat the Streak.

Personal opinion no, time to move on and get some new credibility into the talent they want for the future post Undertaker, Orton, Cena etc.

Face it, 75% of the people who've lost have gotten a rub off of just being in the streak match at WrestleMania the only exceptions were the handfull of people that were never and would ever have been relevant anyway.

Give the match to someone newer. Reigns, Bryan, Ziggler, Caesaro cant think of too many that would be even a legit threat but they gotta do something different before Taker can't go anymore.

Reigns is the most logical choice this year since he's the one that put the most damage on Taker putting him out of comission for the past year.
 
Not a chance in hell. Orton had momentum the last time he did it. And had the streak not been such a draw, it would have been a good time to end the streak with a guy like Orton at the time he faced Taker at WM21. Right now, Orton never got fully revitalized with the title he won at Summerslam. It's kind of a bold statement, but I don't think the fans would really care if Orton went away for awhile. Him feuding with almost anybody on that roster would be old news at this point. He's just dull. So with Orton's current state of "we can't wait until he drops the belt" feelings we have towards him, challenging Taker wouldn't be a terrible match... but nobody would believe it for a second.
 
Nobody ever says...a heel mark Henry. Remember the hall of pain. Let him go back to that gimmick and challenge taker.
 
The only way I could see this happening is if Orton loses the title and challenges the streak as a last ditch attempt to prove to The Authority that he's the face of the WWE. I think the match would be good and a lot safer for Taker than a match with Brock, and in truth Orton won't have much less momentum than Punk had last year.
 
I've been saying this for the better part of a year now - Randy Orton is the only one that should break the streak if they intend to do it so. Dream Matches with guys like Brock Lesnar, The Rock or whatever are predictable because WWE is not going to give them that accomplishment if they can't use it to build someone or to make them more marketable. What could possibly Lesnar and Rock win from this match? It would be great for WrestleMania itself and it would garner mainstream attention of some sorts, but is that really "good business"?

They need to think ahead and all streaks are meant to be broken. That is the appeal of a streak and who else is a 33 year old main event star, who at least has another five to ten years in him and needs a decisive career defining moment than Randy Orton? Daniel Bryan already had his. He beat John Cena cleanly at SummerSlam and nothing will ever top that for him. Guys like Roman Reigns and Bray Wyatt are just too new in the business - giving them the rub is an insane investment - what if they go all CM Punk on the company?

The only guy I could see being billed as a serious threat in a booking stand point would be Sheamus by the same logic as Randy Orton. John Cena will not break the streak, the guy already has more career defining moments than most stars in any era of professional wrestling. The Streak in itself is already a draw and it really doesn't matter who faces him apart from John Cena, just because it's quite possibly the two most credible stars in the company. Brock Lesnar going against Batista or Daniel Bryan has the same effect as him going after The Streak. The Rock returning is a massive draw already and whomever you put him against, he'll get the job done as far as buys go and in the process give that guy a rub for the remaining of the year and even for when he goes away for good. There's appeal on The Rock vs. Roman Reigns, there's also appeal on The Rock vs. Daniel Bryan or The Rock being put in some sort of tag team combination.

CM Punk last year could have been a legit threat if it wasn't a second plan and as rushed as a storyline could possibly be. He had the credibility and the "need" to break the streak after a 434 day title reign. If the rivalry had started at Royal Rumble - WrestleMania would feel a lot more unpredictable and unpredictability is a draw.
 
Nobody ever says...a heel mark Henry. Remember the hall of pain. Let him go back to that gimmick and challenge taker.

He's already faced the Undertaker and got decimated at WrestleMania 22. plus it would be s tinker of a match, Henry is all power and nothing else, he's slower then Taker and thats saying something.
 
Taker turns 49 less than 2 weeks before WrestleMania XXX. His days are numbered by the simple biological fact that he can't be the same person physically he was 15 years ago. If he goes against Lesnar at WrestleMania XXX, it might be his last match anyway if he winds up getting injured. At his age coupled with the fact that the wear & tear of wrestling has caught up with him over the past 5 or 6 years, one major injury will probably end his career.

As a result, WWE is going to want to put him in matches that are going to draw money. Taker vs. Orton II at WrestleMania XXXI will not draw huge money. Sure, it'd be a strong match, but the point of the streak is to be featured as a special attraction. For a special match, you need a special draw and Orton's not it. For a streak match, you need something like Taker vs. Lesnar, Taker vs. Sting or Taker vs. Cena. If Taker is still able and willing to compete at next year's WrestleMania, WWE might put him up against a younger star, depending on how some younger stars progress. WrestleMania XXXI could see Taker vs. Reigns, Taker vs. Big E, Taker vs. Bryan, etc. If the reaction to Orton vs. Batista is any indication, fans don't want to see rehash feuds from the mid to late 2000s as the top matches of WrestleMania.
 
I actually believe the idea of the Undertaker vs the Rock would be a huge money maker for the WWE if it is done properly.
Book the storyline in a way that shows the Rock as wanting that last achievement in order to become the Greatest WWE Superstar of ALL-Time! Have it made into a Career vs Streak match. Surely the notion of the Rock in his last match would put loads of butts in seats,lMO.


As for the Match quality, that is something I can't talk about. It might be a great match if both guys put in the neccessary work, or it could be a stinker. But the Booking itself would sell and sell BIG, lMO.
 
In my opinion, I think the rightful Undertaker opponent for this year is Cesaro. The dude's on a big roll right now and giving him that match for the streak would be the icing on the cake for his push. Plus, it would be an awesome match, no doubt about it.
 
No, the time has past. At this point of his career, he's peaked. If he retired today, he would be a Hall of Famer, based on his multiple WWE title reigns, how quickly he's done and the quality matches he's had over his career.
 
This is the simplest way to put it.


NO!

Orton isn't a real threat to Taker. Orton just suffered a loss to Cesaro on Smackdown, and if somehow Orton won, that would be saying Cesaro, a guy who hasn't won more than a U.S title, could beat the Undertaker, a guy who has won 21 times at Mania.
 
Randy Orton should not not go after the streak again. But if for some reason the WWE decided to go in that direction it would be a better build up and more interesting then the current planned main event of Batista and Randy Orton. The fans are not behind Batista and the WWE does not want to see the same fan reaction to a WWE world championship match like the one between John Cena and Randy Orton at the Royal Rumble.
 
For this Mania, I think there are better options for both. Taker is all set to face Lesnar but even Sting or Cena would be great. Orton is champ and I don't see anything other than him facing Batista.

If we are talking about years in the future then it could happen. However, Taker only has a few matches left. Like I said, there are some dream matches that can happen. Obviously Sting and Cena but potentially Wyatt or Reigns.

It wouldn't be bad for Orton because he may get the short straw next year. Who knows what will happen and all his great work now might be irrelevant. I would like to see the feud and match itself but there are better options for Taker. If they really wanted I'm sure they could persuade Taker to work something with Orton at Summerslam or Survivor Series. It wouldn't be for the Streak but it would still be enjoyable.
 
IMO, Taker should face John Cena this year at WrestleMania and retire, giving him deuces wild (22-0) record...there are reports that Lesnar is NOT committed to practicing the match with Taker in Texas and the match would be too physical for Taker to handle, so I say pull the trigger and do Cena/Taker instead.

WWE needs to realize that NOBODY wants to see Cena vs Wyatt and even tho I'm no Cena fan, he deserves better than this especially at a milestone WM like WM 30...

Cena/Taker, Brock/Batista and HHH/Bryan SHOULD be the main events at WrestleMania XXX and if not, this will completely bomb IMO...make this WM special!!
 
I'm a big Orton fan, but in his current position and how his character is now, I don't see the value in a Taker match. If he lost the title, went away a few weeks and came back with a consistent aggresive ballsy viper persona and it led to him chasing the undertaker to prove he was back in business so to speak, I could support that.

I wouldnt mind if he won either. Im one of the people that believe Taker should lose in his final match because I think thats a fundemental part of the wrestling business, passing the torch on. Regardless how much the streak means or if the person doesnt make the most of the accolade afterwards, just for them to give it to someone and try to use the legendary streak to help another superstar would be the right thing to do in my book.
 

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