Should people really hate Cena.....

[5000]

People hate Cena for the following

Ring Gear

Wrestling

Mic-skills

Anti-Heel

First of all as far as ring gear it ain't like he creates his own ring gear WWE creates and provides the merch

Wrestling- People say he don't get young talent over he don't have to job to them to not put them over I don't see any other legend on the roster except RVD,Y2J,Lesnar doing that so why hate Cena what is he suppose to be Ryback/Goldberg dominate the whole match and win it too no he's going to put over young talent by letting them do that because when the video package runs back that's what it's going to show and he can wrestle for real he was the reason Rock vs Cena 1 and 2 was remotely even good

Putting over young stars- He can't book matches but even if he asked to let the star go over it would mess up storylines

Mic-Skills-So what he don't come out calling people B*tches are telling them to shut the hell up or watch their damn mouth's that't not his job his job is to be the leader of the PG Era not go be Stone Cold besides be mad at his writing team for writing his lines because he sure the hell didn't

Heel Turn-Maybe he do want to turn heel but don't want to make it obvious Hogan didn't make it obvious neither did Austin and he is the biggest legend since Rock (If not bigger) but now that Vince/Hunter agreed to him being allowed to pull it off maybe he might just do it but it ain't like he can book a heel turn.

Would you be happy to see Cena come back in a Black shirt and swearing on the mic and dominating but loosing almost every match and telling you he don't give a damn about you and tell the kid's they can suck it and all tha't or would that be a sellout or ridiculous I want Cena to go heel but by ending the streak using the shield to take Undertaker down and Randy punt's him setting up a new heel dangerous faction....

 

[RKO920]

I gave a short outline in another post about how I would like to see a Cena heel turn happen. It would involve this Corporation, but it then would turn Orton back to face unless they can convince everyone he was in on it the whole time, which wouldn't look good for Orton playing second banana to Cena. So, onto the plan....

Cena returns as a hero, here to help Daniel Bryan and the rest of the crusaders against the Corporation. He turns on them ala Hogan and the NWO, this helps cement Bryan as the new top face of the company and immediately makes Cena officially the top heel. This is then celebrated by the Corporation claiming Cena is and has always been the REAL face of the WWE, this is where they can either have Orton turn or become second banana here. Cena can literally buy into how much money he has, the fans were the ones that bought him his mansion in Tampa and all of his cars. For this heel turn think the Rock when he went Hollywood. This would be huge for the WWE because it's exactly what would bring in fans that have turned away over the past couple years.

Now back to the original topic, I don't think it really has to do with any of the topics the original poster named. The Ring Gear, the superstars do have input on what their merchandise is like so he could very well have a good amount of say in what they sell given his status in the WWE. Mic-Skills, I don't question his skills on the mic, he's up there as one of the top guys in the business on the mic so that's not it either. People make fun of his wrestling because of the 5 Moves of Doom, but he is mostly regarded as a good worker in the ring so that's not it either. I think what it comes down to is people are just tired of seeing the same gimmick, same guy on the same show for 10 years.

Since John Cena was drafted to Raw back in 2005, he's never changed shows. Hell even Triple H was drafted to Smackdown and no one though that would happen since as Paul Heyman once said "Hunter doesn't work Tuesdays." Also since then his character transformed from the rapping, Thug Life, leader of the "Chain-Gang." To a wannabe Marine then basically to Superman. In this day and age fans respond to more of a real life character, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Jericho, guys who are basically themselves out there. The over the top characters are done and over with, even the Undertaker has toned down the mythical, dead man character we all grew up with. People see through the BS, is Cena this squeaky clean guy in real life? No way, no one is, everyone has issues and no one is perfect. The Rock said it the best, the people see Cena for what he really is and that's a fraud. He claims to be himself out there but it's still in an over the top superhero-ish kind of way. I would enjoy a Cena match so much more if he looked like after he won that he was actually exhausted instead of looking as if he went for a brisk walk after dinner. CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, even Dolph Ziggler, they all look like they just went through hell after their matches and the crowd responds and those are the guys that get respected and cheered the most, not the guy that makes it look overly fake.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

As far as his ring gear goes, I don't really give a shit. So it's not traditional ring gear. Big fuckin' deal. How many other guys in WWE or TNA or ROH or whatever don't wear traditional ring gear, yet don't get shit on because of it?

During one of the storyline interview that Triple H has conducted with Michael Cole over the past several weeks, he made a reference to Floyd Mayweather. On September 14, 2013, Mayweather extended his professional record to 45-0 and won the WBC & The Ring Light Middleweight Championships while retaining the WBA Super Light Middleweight Championship. Triple H mentioned that Mayweather might be the most disliked guy in boxing by a lot of fans because he's extremely cocky. Not only is he cocky, but he backs up his cockiness by winning and that only makes some people dislike him all the more.

When it comes to John Cena, it's a somewhat similar situation. A lot of people, whether it be internet fans, dirtsheet writers or whomever; dislike Cena because he's been on top for so long. If there's anything people in this day & age enjoy more than seeing a hero rise, it's trying to tear that same hero down. I think that Cena's true unpopularity isn't genuine among a good number of fans who boo him. It's become something of a tradition to boo John Cena. I've seen college kids and fully grown men cheer for the guy while women and 10 year old boys try to boo him out of the building. Hell, I've even seen people wearing John Cena hats or t-shirts boo him when he comes out. If you genuinely dislike John Cena, I don't see you paying $20 or more to purchase any of his merchandise and then wear it. If Cena was truly as unpopular, then fans would have loooooooooooooong since stopped giving a shit about him. His merchandise wouldn't sell, his matches & feuds would generate little interest and viewership for Cena centered segments would plummet.

As for his wrestling ability, Cena has also loooooooooooooooong since shown that he's actually a damn good professional wrestler. It's simply inconceivable that someone as sucky as haters proclaim him to be could have so many fantastic matches in his career. Cena has had killer matches against guys like Triple H, Randy Orton, Edge, Shawn Michaels, Big Show, Mark Henry, Rob Van Dam, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, The Rock, Brock Lesnar and the list goes on. A lot of the crap he gets, such as the "Five Moves of Doom" is nothing different than any other wrestler does as they all have a series of signature moves that pop up in almost every match. He doesn't do suicide dives or flips all over the ring so, in the minds of some, he can't wrestle.

As far as his mic skills go, again, Cena is someone whose shown time & time again that he can cut a damn good promo. Throughout 2013, Cena has been FAR less happy-go-lucky than we're used to seeing him. He was serious during his feud with The Rock and they spent time building their rematch with a series of passionate & intense promos, for the most part, in which Cena didn't have to resort to telling juvenile jokes. Same thing with his feud with Ryback, then with Mark Henry and then with Daniel Bryan. When Cena does start trying to be all cute & funny, he does get on my nerves sometimes. I don't want to see him cracking lame jokes or trying to be all cute that belittles his opponent by giving the impression that he doesn't see them as a threat. What we've gotten from Cena, as a whole in 2013, is a much more focused & passionate Cena that can get people behind him during his promos rather than rolling their eyes.

As far as Cena being anti-heel, it's kinda what babyfaces do. WWE has found a formula for Cena that works. Again, this all goes back to my point in regards to popularity. If the majority legitimately, flat out hated Cena with half the intensity they claim, then he wouldn't make money for WWE. It wouldn't bother me personally to see him go heel, I think it could be potentially interesting. At the same time, I can also see WWE's position on not turning Cena heel. The formula for Cena makes money and draw's ratings for WWE. At the end of the day, that's what it's all about since WWE is a business that doesn't book its feuds, wrestlers & matches like it's a fantasy league.

 

[MCMG]

I've personally never hated Cena, indeed I've always liked him. I understand, to some extent, why people dislike him and why they are sick of "super" Cena.

It's partially due to him being the company guy that is always in the title picture or headlining Wrestlemania (or any PPV for that matter) Ok, he closes the majority of PPV's but that is because he is the biggest star in the company. He is always in the title picture; that is because he is talented (in the ring and on the microphone).

I have always thought that John Cena was superb on the mic and those who doubt that are the very same people who have daily wanks over Daniel Bryan. He has also delivered some fantastic feuds/matches over the years. Some hate him because he is awful in the ring, that is utter crap. John Cena's matches with the likes of Edge, Punk, Bryan, Lesnar were 5 star and that is undeniable. The generic, Cena gets beat down; hits the " 5 moves of doom" and wins might be overdone but I'm sure it works for the casual fan.

The notion that Cena is at the same level of Austin, The Rock, Bret Hart, HBK, Taker, HHH seems ridiculous but he definitely is and has arguably surpassed some of these incredible names. There are various reasons why people hate Cena but I personally disagree with most of them, I enjoy John Cena's work and he is undeniably a legend of the company.

 

[GodlyTwins]

I don't know if the Cena haters realize it or not, but you guys are just booing him everynight because you want him to do better, am I right? The haters realize Cena is not what he used to be and they boo him to cheer for him, to cheer for a tweak in his gimmick, his wrestling capabilities, etc.

TLDR: Haters boo Cena, but in reality, they are actually cheering for him to do better.

 

[scomvp316]

I don't hate him its just the booking
I am sure Cena politics as well
I am not one that just wants him to turn heel just make sense of it
I also don't like the fact that WWE thinks Cena is their only savior without trying with other talent with the same effort that they put in with Cena
I don't believe Cena is in the upper class of all-time
His merch sales aren't any better than Hart's and HBK's
Some fans with the merch will say they don't care but thats what VKM goes by
The only reason Cena is at the top is because Lesnar quit and thats the cold hard truth Cenation
There is no doubt he's the best from a PR stuff because of other talents out of the ring conduct and attitude

 

[Spidey Revivey]

I've never cared for John Cena, but it's not because of anything that is listed on here. It's just difference in preferences. I don't think anyone should legitimately hate any athlete who is trying to make a name for themselves who go out of their way to be entertaining. John Cena is entertaining and a hell of a worker. I'm just not that into his character.

And as far as putting other people over, there is at least two people on the top of my head that he has. Wade Barret and Tensai. We could all probably start a thread on the people he has put over to be honest.

John Cena does garnish more criticism than he should, and has for years. I blame it on the older crowd not getting over the fact that their television program is changing. I'm sure the Attitude Era saw it's detractors as well.

 

[CaptainZaltan]

I respect Cena. The guy is a work horse and his charity work is commendable. As far as his wrestling goes, he's actually pretty good; he's not flashy or particularly technical, but the guy works "main event style" as well as anyone I've ever seen. Cena knows how to captivate the audience, whether they want to acknowledge it or not. And whenever he's not doing his god freaking awful "comedy" routine, he's actually one of the best guys on the microphone in the business today.

That being said, there's not an argument on earth that's going to stop me from hating the living hell out of John Cena, the character. Everything from the high-tops to the stupid meaningless "hustle , loyalty, respect" nonsense irks the hell out of me. Why? Numerous reasons. First and foremost, it's completely contrived. If a bunch of marketing execs sat around a boardroom and combined every dumb, shallow idea that they thought kids would find cool and spend money on, the end result would be John Cena. This is at least partially due to the fact that John Cena was MADE to be a heel. By which I mean that when he first started doing his white rapper/fake marine gimmick, it was designed to piss off the audience of the time (adults). And it did! Cena was a fantastic heel because I legitimately hated everything about his character. Unfortunately, he carried the same schtick into his (never ending) face run. Which brings up the next point, namely that he's been doing the same thing for years now. Anyone that stagnant, not only Cena, would be grating on my nerves by now. Likewise, anyone who was consistently booked to be both the center of attention and unbeatable would also piss me off. It's the antithesis of good storytelling. Finally, as I mentioned before, John Cena does 'comedy.' By which I mean that part of every promo where he suddenly gets riled up and starts talking in his goofy voice and inevitably breaks out some soul shatteringly terrible quip or other. I don't know, maybe kids find Cena funny? Regardless, I don't.

To put it in simpler terms, I dislike John Cena because I dislike the character he is playing and how it's being written. It's nothing personal against him, and it's not a big deal. Everyone has characters that they like and dislike on every television show, and it's generally a matter of personal taste. I find Cena's character irritating rather than entertaining, and as he's the main protagonist and center of attention in the WWE, he inevitably reduces my enjoyment of the show. Should I ignore that, just because I respect John Cena the person, or for the sake of 'playing along' with who I'm being told to cheer or boo? That would be like cheering a good actor in a crap role that you simply don't find entertaining, just because you feel it's expected of you to do so. Which is how topics like this make me feel whenever they come up; as though there's an expectation that wrestling fans SHOULD like John Cena based on (insert argument here), which ignores the fact that people simply like who they find entertaining and dislike who they don't. Ultimately, arguments for or against his wrestling ability, his attire, etc, regardless of whether or not they have a factual basis, are simply rationalizations for personal taste, and attacking those rationalizations isn't going to change anything. Let people hate him, I say. Or like him, whatever. Let them feel however they want to feel about him, as long as it's genuine. Pro-wrestling is a unique form of media with direct and immediate feedback from it's audience, and ultimately the audience being honest and vocal about what they like and dislike will hopefully lead to a product that's more enjoyable for everyone . But that only works when you stop telling the audience how they 'should' feel, and start reacting to how they do.

 

[sjdigitall]

Yer some people boo him because it the cool thing to do but i really think its more than that. For me at least it is. I just dont see him as a good face for the company as Hogan, Rock or Stone Cold were. All those guys had a massive portion of the audience behind them and really drove the business to new heights. All Cena has done in his time as the face of the WWE is seen the ratings dip to new lows and wrestling become overall unpopular. Now for me there is a distinct parallel between the decline in the business and the crowd reactions to Cena. The Crowd and the general public just dont see him as someone to get behind.

The Split crowd reaction or in some places, the crowd booing him out of the building may look cool but it really is damaging to the WWE.

 

[HereComesThePain420]

Ok this is my opinion People have a right to hate who ever they want not everyone is going to like a certain Wrestler. But that's part of the business some characters get over and have a large fan base Cena is an example of that but Not everyone is Going to like the character nore should they Everyone has different taste when it comes to wrestling just like everything else in the world I personally Don't like Cena and Don't care to see him as a Face anymore for the simple fact He is stale KISSES the fans ass ,and I prefer Heels over Faces unless Its CM PUNK, STONE COLD,THE ROCK And THE UNDERTAKER . But you don't have to like a Wrestler to RESPECT the person they are and what they DO and have done for the BUSINESS I have respect for CENA just Don't like his current face role in the WWE .

 

[King_of_Swing1520]

im so sick of this topic. no one actually hates John Cena the person. we are tired of his gimmick. every wrestler's character has to evolve to stay fresh and keep from being stale. john cena has been doing the EXACT same thing for the past 5 yrs. cutting the same EXACT promos for the past 5 yrs. its old. give the character some depth. make some kind of change. any change. no one hates cena the person. we hate cena's character

 

[Kris Benwa]

I'm a fan of Cena and have been for 10 years. The guy wrestles great matches consistently we already know that. No reason to hate his ring gear it's just ring gear. I think he's one of the better mic workers in the WWE and has been for a while. I don't care if he turns heel or not I think his character would be cool either way but I don't see any reason for him to...yet. But what do I know I don't even find his character particularly stale. I will admit it became regular but it was still interesting I was always tuning in to see what was gonna happen with him. I'm excited for his return as well and I hope it's a major surprise like in 08 I'll pop wild for that just like I did back then

 

[thebowtiekiller]

no one likes a goody two shoes its that simple imo i respect him he obviously loves what he does but i dont really enjoy watching him.hes squeaky clean to the point it makes people vomit for instance when the crowd boos him he thanks them for it.also when someone challenges him he tells them how much he respects them ect.its cringeworthy.i think he could still be the great rolemodel to kids that he is but develop a more ruthless badass attitude aswell as i think that would eliminate a lot of the hate.

 

[Jonyboyuk2]

I dont think people should hate John Cena. The people he has been put over by in his career - Kurt Angle, Shawn Micheals, Bret Hart (by endorsements), HHH, Ric Flair, The Rock, Hulk Hogan (by endorsements), RVD, Edge, Brock Lesner. The list goes on.

In the modern WWE Universe/wrestling world, John Cena is the hardest working guy in the WWE. His commitment is extraordinary. He is not the best technical wrestler ever (but nor was Hulk Hogan at his peak). His only floor is he does not sell properly when he has taken a beating to make people believe in his opponents more.

Hopefully, when the heel turn comes he will adapt this to his act.

He makes the WWE very profitable - and the platform for the WWE to exist as it does. I thank Cena for that- even if i would love to see his now stale character turn heel. The only thing his babyface character has left now is to face the Undertaker at WM!

 

[blue_dragon]

People hate Cena for the following

Ring Gear

Wrestling

Mic-skills

Anti-Heel

First of all as far as ring gear it ain't like he creates his own ring gear WWE creates and provides the merch

Wrestling- People say he don't get young talent over he don't have to job to them to not put them over I don't see any other legend on the roster except RVD,Y2J,Lesnar doing that so why hate Cena what is he suppose to be Ryback/Goldberg dominate the whole match and win it too no he's going to put over young talent by letting them do that because when the video package runs back that's what it's going to show and he can wrestle for real he was the reason Rock vs Cena 1 and 2 was remotely even good

Putting over young stars- He can't book matches but even if he asked to let the star go over it would mess up storylines

Mic-Skills-So what he don't come out calling people B*tches are telling them to shut the hell up or watch their damn mouth's that't not his job his job is to be the leader of the PG Era not go be Stone Cold besides be mad at his writing team for writing his lines because he sure the hell didn't

Heel Turn-Maybe he do want to turn heel but don't want to make it obvious Hogan didn't make it obvious neither did Austin and he is the biggest legend since Rock (If not bigger) but now that Vince/Hunter agreed to him being allowed to pull it off maybe he might just do it but it ain't like he can book a heel turn.

Would you be happy to see Cena come back in a Black shirt and swearing on the mic and dominating but loosing almost every match and telling you he don't give a damn about you and tell the kid's they can suck it and all tha't or would that be a sellout or ridiculous I want Cena to go heel but by ending the streak using the shield to take Undertaker down and Randy punt's him setting up a new heel dangerous faction....

The thing is and what people should understand is that it's not his mic skills, his work ethic and ring skills, not one colored t-shirt after the other that they hate. It's the character and possibly the idea that huge demographic which aren't kids can't relate to it.

He is not real to him. It's that simple. Just look at Shawn Michaels. When did we hear him getting booed? It doesn't matter if he's not the best talker in the biz but what he says still garners respect. People can relate to that character and what he does.

As far as he being Hogan 2.0 that's how it stands. And how did Hogan turn heel? Well he moved to another company there they understood that it was time to do the unthinkable and get it over. He would hardly turn if he was back in WWF.

Can Cena move to another company? No he can't. So what are the other options? Change in management is the only key. Or you convincing Vince McMahon not to make money on kids who worship their superman. If anyone was in Vince's shoes they would choose money.

Besides Cena is The Dynasty. People love far more rebels and underdogs hence why guys like Bryan and Punk been successful on Cena's account. People want to see people struggle to get to the top. Cena ain't struggling enough.

He is a maid man for life. Doesn't need to be hungry for more success.

But that is besides the point. WWE has forgotten about other individuals besides the main event. They forgotten how to make good stories...I mean more than one intriguing story.

Another one is the talent and them lacking big stars which they don't have any idea how to build

 

[Wrestlefan27]

I like Cena for the most part. The big problem I have with him is that it's the same thing over and over and over. His matches have become too formulaic, and formulaic means predictable, and predictable means boring. However, I can't blame Cena for that, he's just a piece in a system that the WWE has created.

I think most people who boo him just want something different. It's ok for the good guy to lose (clean) sometimes. It's ok for the good guy to look weak. It just makes it that much more satisfying when he rises again.

 

[ecwsux~!]

What? Formulaic? Flair, Shawn Michaels, Austin etc all have spots in matches that seem repetitive it's the way of the business. I don't get why people hate Cena, he has a body of great matches, he's ultra charismatic and he's held the ball for a decade. That's an amazing feat in itself just look at the top guys from the past, Austin lasted two years on top, Rock had a similar amount. He's also great on the mic when he's not doing some corny comedy but hell I believe that when he returns the roof is gonna be blown off the building.

 

[blue_dragon]

To say that Cena lasted on top for 10 years is a big miscalculation based on his t-shirt which says 10 years strong.

Cena wasn't even main eventing in 03. He became the top dog after he started to main even in 05 but at that time he was sharing his spot with HBK, HHH and Kurt Angle.

The reason why he was able to succeed at that time was because huge names like Rock, Brock, Austin and Goldberg all left in 04....but he did indeed take the ball and ran with it but he also had luck just like any other top guy who seemed to be at the right place at the right time..simple.

 

[SkyCommanderWinky]

People can get away with not wearing traditional ring gear. Cena's problem is that not only is he not wearing traditional gear but, fashion-wise, it's dated. Waaaaay dated. When's the last time you saw anyone wearing Tommy Hilfiger jean shorts and said "Gee! I want a pair of those!"? Same goes for khaki cargo shorts. John Cena looks like he fell out of a 13 year old Gap advertisement.

 

[The Champ]

It's totally within the fan prerogative to not enjoy John Cena. Some people do hate him for pretty dumb reasons, though, a lot of which have nothing to do with Cena himself.

I think there are a few groups of people at play here.

One is the group who was always going to hate the next guy after Rock and Stone Cold, and Cena just happened to be that guy.

Another is the group who hates the direction of the company as a whole and blame it all on Cena because he's on top.

Another are the people who think you can't be a good wrestler unless you debut ten new moves every match.

And finally, there are the people who quite simply don't enjoy him, and these are the ones I have much less of a problem with than the aforementioned three.

Not every Cena hater necessarily falls into one of these groups, but I think I covered the main ones. I just wish people would be fair in their assessment of his skills. He's clearly a great wrestler at this point, and I'd argue that he's one of the best mic workers ever, an opinion which was strengthened with his outperformance of The Rock leading into WrestleMania 28 and his even stronger performances leading into 29.

He also does a great job representing the company and has legions of loyal fans. Obviously not everyone is a fan, but the ones who love Cena are the ones who are willing to pour money into the product. And, quite simply, that's what's #BestforBusiness.