Should He Stay or Should He Go?

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

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Sorry couldn't resist Gotta love The Clash.

Off the top of my head I remember LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Joe Johnson, and Chris Bosh are all free agents this offseason.

Who should stay and who should go? Why should they leave if they do, and what team will they go to?

LeBron- He needs to stay because Cleveland is set up to win already and I'm a hometown on team kind of guy. If he leaves the Cavs might as well just close up shop.

Wade- Pack your bags and head to ChiTown, Wade needs to go to the Bulls. Chicago is a huge market and a great young team without a great SG. Wade fits here.

Joe Johnson- Toughest one for me because I love the Hawks but the guy didn't endear himself to the fans after their last game. I don't really see Atlanta winning a title with or without him in the next few years, Joe is a star but not a superstar and the supporting cast is good on their own but don't support a superstar type player. Joe could go to Denver and fit in well, but I want him to end up a Pacer, he could go along nicely with Danny Granger and hopefully put Pacer basketball back on the map.

Chris Bosh- Most soft spoken superstar out there. New York for him, huge market huge money. Bosh would finally get the Knicks their superstar and someone that would attract other big name free agents in the future.

 

[48.7 is Approximately 49 Times Better Than You]

LeBron James should leave. It's in his best interest to go to a large market city like LA or NY, and by his best interest, I mean his wallet. The money those two cities could bring him is massive. We'd be looking at a situation where he could become the richest athlete ever. Cleveland is a nasty city, and I'd want to leave too. #6 in a Knicks jersey. Ooooohhh Yeahhh!

Joe Johnson will probably be a Clipper. They'd have a respectable team, with Kaman, Griffen, ______ SF, Joe Johnson and Baron Davis. I know he won't be a Hawk.

Wade is going to stay in Miami where he's finally going to get some help. One of the three (Bosh, Boozer, Stoudomire) will end up there. Another will go to Chicago, and the final will join LBJ in NYC. I see Bosh to Miami, Boozer to Chicago, and Amare to NY. Or maybe one to NJ. Not sure.

 

[People's Champ]

Lebron is gone.

That was easy to write. Tell me why he shouldn't leave? Because its his hometown? Weak answer. He's set up to win? Ha really? Look at this series. Who has stepped up and helped Lebron? I said here before that I didn't believe the Shaq trade or the trade for Jamison would put them over the top. I still felt they were not going to win in the playoffs. They have contributed nothing. Mo Williams, Shaq, Jamison have done nothing to help Lebron or make anyone think they can win the title. Should they get past the Celtics they will be hammered by the Magic.

Lebron will go to New York. People didn't think he would leave but looking at the Cavs there is nothing there for him. In New York he can go to a bigger market. Can you imagine how much bigger Lebron will be for bringing the Knicks back to relevance? He will be huge in New York. And in the East he will shoot the team into the top 4 automatically. That's because he will have Bosh.

Bosh will not stay in Toronto. There is no reason for him to stay. Go to N.Y with Lebron and contend every year. And for people who don't think they will, name 3 teams that would be better than them? Cleveland and Miami will e at the basment with Lebron and Wade gone. For that matter so will Toronto. Boston is an old team. The only real threat is Orlando. So I see no reason these two will not hook up in N.Y and bring the Knicks back to relavence.

 

[Big Sexy]

The biggest basically guaranteed free agents are LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Boozer and Joe Johnson. The teams that have the most cap room to get one or two of these guys are the Knicks, Nets, Bulls, Clippers, and the Heat will have some room as well. So teams like the Pacers and Nuggets that were brought up earlier in the thread don't really have much of a chance at all to get anyone.

LeBron- I've always thought he was going to come back. Right now is the only time that I thought maybe he might leave but I still just can't see him being anywhere but Cleveland.

D Wade- He is staying in Miami. Yes he's from Chicago and they need a two guard but He is';t going to leave the team and lifestyle that he has in Miami.

Chris Bosh- Bosh is gone. Top destinations for him are the Knicks, Bulls, Clippers, and Heat. Miami will be an attractive offer but I have a feeling Bosh wants to be the top guy where he goes and that won't happen in Miami so I see him going to the Knicks.

Joe Johnson- Chicago and New York will be the two most likely destinations. The Clippers already have Eric Gordon so he isn't going there. Once Wade resigns in Miami, the Bulls will turn their attention to Johnson. It's also possible he resigns in the ATL but after this years playoffs I don't see it happening. I wouldn't be surprised to see him join Bosh in New York but I'll say he ends up in Chi Town.

Carlos Boozer- I think Boozer goes to Miami. There will be some interest from the Knicks and Bulls but ultimately I see him playing with Wade for the Heat giving them another viable scoring option.

There are other potential free agents as well. Rudy Gay is restricted, Amare Stoudemire has an early termination option, and Dirk and Paul Pierce have ETO's as well. It should be a fun offseason.

That was easy to write. Tell me why he shouldn't leave? Because its his hometown? Weak answer. He's set up to win? Ha really? Look at this series. Who has stepped up and helped Lebron? I said here before that I didn't believe the Shaq trade or the trade for Jamison would put them over the top. I still felt they were not going to win in the playoffs. They have contributed nothing. Mo Williams, Shaq, Jamison have done nothing to help Lebron or make anyone think they can win the title. Should they get past the Celtics they will be hammered by the Magic.

Actually Shaq and Antawn Jamison really haven't been bad at all. Mo Williams has been shit I'll give you that, but LeBron has no one to blame but himself in this series. In the games they have lost he has been awful. If the Cavs lose it's because LeBron didn't step up. He can't blame the supporting cast this year.

 

[People's Champ]

The biggest basically guaranteed free agents are LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Boozer and Joe Johnson. The teams that have the most cap room to get one or two of these guys are the Knicks, Nets, Bulls, Clippers, and the Heat will have some room as well. So a team like the Pacers that were brought up earlier in the thread don't really have much of a chance at all to get anyone.

LeBron- I've always thought he was going to come back. Right now is the only time that I thought maybe he might leave but I still just can't see him being anywhere but Cleveland.

D Wade- He is staying in Miami. Yes he's from Chicago and they need a two guard but He is';t going to leave the team and lifestyle that he has in Miami.

Chris Bosh- Bosh is gone. Top destinations for him are the Knicks, Bulls, Clippers, and Heat. Miami will be an attractive offer but I have a feeling Bosh wants to be the top guy where he goes and that won't happen in Miami so I see him going to the Knicks.

Joe Johnson- Chicago and New York will be the two most likely destinations. The Clippers already have Eric Gordon so he isn't going there. Once Wade resigns in Miami, the Bulls will turn their attention to Johnson. It's also possible he resigns in the ATL but after this years playoffs I don't see it happening. I wouldn't be surprised to see him join Bosh in New York but I'll say he ends up in Chi Town.

Carlos Boozer- I think Boozer goes to Miami. There will be some interest from the Knicks and Bulls but ultimately I see him playing with Wade for the Heat giving them another viable scoring option.

There are other potential free agents as well. Rudy Gay is restricted, Amare Stoudemire has an early termination option, and Dirk and Paul Pierce have ETO's as well. It should be a fun offseason.




Actually Shaq and Antawn Jamison really haven't been bad at all. Mo Williams has been shit I'll give you that, but LeBron has no one to blame but himself in this series. In the games they have lost he has been awful. If the Cavs lose it's because LeBron didn't step up. He can't blame the supporting cast this year.

Wow really? Its Lebron's fault? He's to blame for them getting blown out at home in an important Game 5? Come on really? Every team left has at least 2 superstars and swept their series. Well every team except the Cavs. They only have Lebron. To blame him is garbage. The only reason they are in this position is BECAUSE OF Lebron. Anybody watching theis series knows that this cast is garbage. They got an old Shaq, an average Jamison, and a crappy Mo Willams. Sorry when looking at all the other teams left, his cast is by far the worst.

That's the reason why he's leaving. There is ABSOULTELY NO reason why Lebron should stay in Cleveland. I'm waiting to hear why you think he is.

As far as Bosh, he wants to win. Listening to him, money is not his motivation. Oh he's going to get his. But he wants to win. And this is a league that requires two superstars to get to the top. So I doubt he will avoid Miami or New York with Lebron there just because he want to be the top guy.

 

[Big Sexy]

Wow really? Its Lebron's fault? He's to blame for them getting blown out at home in an important Game 5? Come on really? Every team left has at least 2 superstars and swept their series. Well every team except the Cavs. They only have Lebron. To blame him is garbage. The only reason they are in this position is BECAUSE OF Lebron. Anybody watching theis series knows that this cast is garbage. They got an old Shaq, an average Jamison, and a crappy Mo Willams. Sorry when looking at all the other teams left, his cast is by far the worst.

LeBron is the superstar. He has to lead this team and the fact is that in the three losses he hasn't been very good. In fact in two of the three losses he has been complete shit. 24, 22, and 15 are his point totals in the losses. 35 and 38 are his point totals in the wins. Do you not see the correlation? The last two games LeBron has COMBINED for 37 points and shot around 30 percent from the field. That is atrocious for anyone who considers themselves the best player in the NBA. Has the supporting cast been great? Fuck no, but it's been better then any other year. The one thing that has changed from this year as opposed to previous years is LeBron's play. So yes LeBron is the biggest reason they are on the verge of losing this series and to say otherwise is beyond ******ed.

That's the reason why he's leaving. There is ABSOULTELY NO reason why Lebron should stay in Cleveland. I'm waiting to hear why you think he is.

No reason to stay? What exactly are his reasons to leave? To be in a bigger market? The man had a 100 million dollar shoe contract before he even played one game in the NBA. It's not like he's hard pressed for money. You also keep talking about this magical scenario where LeBron and Bosh end up together. Is it possible? Yes. Is it probable? Not at all. There are numerous teams with money and the scenarios are endless. What if LeBron signs in New York and then Bosh decides to sign in Chicago? Then LeBron is stuck on a team that is even worse then the one he had in Cleveland. Too much can happen to just automatically assume that LeBron and Bosh in New York is a guarantee.

 

[People's Champ]

LeBron is the superstar. He has to lead this team and the fact is that in the three losses he hasn't been very good. In fact in two of the three losses he has been complete shit. 24, 22, and 15 are his point totals in the losses. 35 and 38 are his point totals in the wins. Do you not see the correlation? The last two games LeBron has COMBINED for 37 points and shot around 30 percent from the field. That is atrocious for anyone who considers themselves the best player in the NBA. Has the supporting cast been great? Fuck no, but it's been better then any other year. The one thing that has changed from this year as opposed to previous years is LeBron's play. So yes LeBron is the biggest reason they are on the verge of losing this series and to say otherwise is beyond ******ed.

Are you freakin serious? Look at every other team in the fucking playoffs. All of them are better than the Cavs. Name me one player on the Cavs besides Lebron that you would take over any other player on any other team that's starting. You can say his supporting cast is better than in years past. And who gives a fuck? They aren't playing against their past teams they are playing against other teams in the league. And the fact is his supporting cast is not as good as any other team left. Did I say Lebron has played perfect? Hell no. But to put the blame on him alone freakin stupid.

Seriously look at other supporting casts with the teams left. You should feel pretty stupid once you see how bad his cast is compared to the Celtics.

No reason to stay? What exactly are his reasons to leave? To be in a bigger market? The man had a 100 million dollar shoe contract before he even played one game in the NBA. It's not like he's hard pressed for money. You also keep talking about this magical scenario where LeBron and Bosh end up together. Is it possible? Yes. Is it probable? Not at all. There are numerous teams with money and the scenarios are endless. What if LeBron signs in New York and then Bosh decides to sign in Chicago? Then LeBron is stuck on a team that is even worse then the one he had in Cleveland. Too much can happen to just automatically assume that LeBron and Bosh in New York is a guarantee.

If you just read what I wrote you would notice that I said Bosh's priority is to win a championship. He will get his money but he wants to be a winner. As I said before, this league you need two superstars to win. The Lakers had Kobe and Shaq, Miami had D Wade and Shaq, Boston had the Big Three. Lakers had Gasol and Kobe. San Antonio had David Robinson and Duncan. This year one team will win with at least 2 superstars. So Bosh is not stupid. He knows he needs someone else to team with. I'm not saying its a guarantee but its a hell of a better option than staying put.

Yes a lot can happen and Lebron is not guaranteed to go N.Y. but if he does someone big is going too. Lebron is not stupid. He will if they tell him they aare bringing in another big name. The glamour of N.Y and the chance to be the man who brought the Knicks back to the top will entice him. Its not all as magical as you think.

 

[TwistofRKO]

I really think LeBron is gone too. I'd like to see him stay, but this feels like its over. I can pretty much just see all of these highlights rolling on SportsCenter right now as ancient footage in a few years after he's been starring in New York. If they don't win this series I definitely believe he's leaving Cleveland behind.

 

[Big Sexy]

Are you freakin serious? Look at every other team in the fucking playoffs. All of them are better than the Cavs. Name me one player on the Cavs besides Lebron that you would take over any other player on any other team that's starting. You can say his supporting cast is better than in years past. And who gives a fuck? They aren't playing against their past teams they are playing against other teams in the league. And the fact is his supporting cast is not as good as any other team left. Did I say Lebron has played perfect? Hell no. But to put the blame on him alone freakin stupid.

I'm not putting the blame for the loss completely on LeBron but he is THE MAIN reason they are about to lose this series and that is not arguable. If he shows up and plays like he normally does every game in this series then the Cavs are up 3-2 at the worst.

I'll take Antawn Jamison over everyone outside of Dwight Howard and maybe Jameer Nelson on Orlando. I'll also take him over everyone outside of Kobe and Gasol in LA. I'll take him over Grant Hill and Robin Lopez in Phoenix as well. Jamison is actually shooting 46% in this series (the same % as LeBron) and is averaging 13 and 8 boards a game. Shaq is giving Cleveland 14 points per game and shooting over 50% in the series as well. Mo Williams is the only guy who has completely no showed this series outside of game 1.

The Celtics are worse team then Cleveland. They have jack shit outside of Rondo and the Arthritic Three. Jamison and Shaq have both outplayed Paul Pierce in this series and Ray Allen has really only shown up in the teams wins and has played poorly in the losses.

If you just read what I wrote you would notice that I said Bosh's priority is to win a championship. He will get his money but he wants to be a winner.

Of course he wants to be a winner but that doesn't mean it's going to be in New York and it doesn't mean it's going to be with LeBron. He also isn't going to give up a max contract just so he can win. The Knicks can afford two max contracts but again it's not like Bosh and LeBron going their is some guarantee.

As I said before, this league you need two superstars to win.

San Antonio has won two titles fairly recently with only one true superstar. The Pistons in 2004 had no real superstar and they won the title. Having two superstars helps but it isn't something you NEED.

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

The biggest basically guaranteed free agents are LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Boozer and Joe Johnson. The teams that have the most cap room to get one or two of these guys are the Knicks, Nets, Bulls, Clippers, and the Heat will have some room as well. So teams like the Pacers and Nuggets that were brought up earlier in the thread don't really have much of a chance at all to get anyone.

I forgot about Boozer, I actually think he might stay with Williams and Sloan.

LeBron- I've always thought he was going to come back. Right now is the only time that I thought maybe he might leave but I still just can't see him being anywhere but Cleveland.

I had the same thinking, I hope he doesn't go and really don't think he will unless a team gives him the most outragous contract in history.

D Wade- He is staying in Miami. Yes he's from Chicago and they need a two guard but He is';t going to leave the team and lifestyle that he has in Miami.

I was up in the air with him staying or going, if he goes I'm saying Chicago, he would be a good fit there, but I think he would be in the same situation as he is in Miami, doing most of the work to win.

Chris Bosh- Bosh is gone. Top destinations for him are the Knicks, Bulls, Clippers, and Heat. Miami will be an attractive offer but I have a feeling Bosh wants to be the top guy where he goes and that won't happen in Miami so I see him going to the Knicks.

Agreed on him being gone but I've always had the feeling he would leave, but go to a team with another top tier superstar. Just my thought.

Joe Johnson- Chicago and New York will be the two most likely destinations. The Clippers already have Eric Gordon so he isn't going there. Once Wade resigns in Miami, the Bulls will turn their attention to Johnson. It's also possible he resigns in the ATL but after this years playoffs I don't see it happening. I wouldn't be surprised to see him join Bosh in New York but I'll say he ends up in Chi Town.

I agree Chicago would be a good destination for him too. I didn't say it because I'm banking on Wade ending up there instead. But again he would be in the same playoff situation as he is in ATL, always there but not good enough to win it all.

Carlos Boozer- I think Boozer goes to Miami. There will be some interest from the Knicks and Bulls but ultimately I see him playing with Wade for the Heat giving them another viable scoring option.

If wade stays and he leaves Miami would be the place he winds up, I just don't see it happening.

There are other potential free agents as well. Rudy Gay is restricted, Amare Stoudemire has an early termination option, and Dirk and Paul Pierce have ETO's as well. It should be a fun offseason.

Gay gets a contract for more than he's worth to stay or go to a non contender or takes a small contract to help a contender, I know I'm stating the obvious but Just weighing in on him. Dirk and Pierce won't leave. Amare is a tough one since the Suns are doing good in the playoffs this year he might want to stick around, but he also seems like he wants to get paid more than to win. Tough one to predict.

Actually Shaq and Antawn Jamison really haven't been bad at all. Mo Williams has been shit I'll give you that, but LeBron has no one to blame but himself in this series. In the games they have lost he has been awful. If the Cavs lose it's because LeBron didn't step up. He can't blame the supporting cast this year.

You can't put it all on him but the Cavs do need him to be SuperBron to win, especially in the playoffs. He gets alot but not all of the blame for the losses.

 

[Big Sexy]

I forgot about Boozer, I actually think he might stay with Williams and Sloan.

I say it's a good 80% chance that Boozer leaves if not higher. They've been trying to dump him for a while now.

I was up in the air with him staying or going, if he goes I'm saying Chicago, he would be a good fit there, but I think he would be in the same situation as he is in Miami, doing most of the work to win.

Chicago would be the one place he does go but he pretty much has already committed to returning to Miami.

Agreed on him being gone but I've always had the feeling he would leave, but go to a team with another top tier superstar. Just my thought.

I'm just going on reports I've heard. I actually think Bosh will end up in New York with not a top tier superstar but still a great player in either Joe Johnson or Rudy Gay.

I agree Chicago would be a good destination for him too. I didn't say it because I'm banking on Wade ending up there instead. But again he would be in the same playoff situation as he is in ATL, always there but not good enough to win it all.

Chicago has Derrick Rose who is better then anyone the Hawks have.

If wade stays and he leaves Miami would be the place he winds up, I just don't see it happening.

Miami has the cap space to keep Wade and sign another big free agent so the Boozer to Miami scenario could most definitely happen.

You can't put it all on him but the Cavs do need him to be SuperBron to win, especially in the playoffs. He gets alot but not all of the blame for the losses.

Again it's not all on him but the majority of the blame has to go on him. Justified or not.

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

I say it's a good 80% chance that Boozer leaves if not higher. They've been trying to dump him for a while now.

Chicago would be the one place he does go but he pretty much has already committed to returning to Miami.

Chicago has Derrick Rose who is better then anyone the Hawks have.

Miami has the cap space to keep Wade and sign another big free agent so the Boozer to Miami scenario could most definitely happen.

I remember that now, I just don't see why they would, considering the team they have now.

I agree that Rose is a beast but I still don't think him and Johnson would equal a title. But the two guards with no outstanding bigs wouldn't help Chicago win in the playoffs, Noah had a good rebounding year but I don't think he can keep it up and score too. Wade and Rose would take the Bulls farther into the playoffs and hopefully draw some much needed post help to the team.


Boozer in Miami with Wade would make alot of sense too and through them into title contention quickly. I just see the off season playing out differently, but if Wade stays and Boozer leaves, I can see that happening.

Sorry if that was confusing, I almost lost myself in the point I was trying to make.

 

[People's Champ]

I'm not putting the blame for the loss completely on LeBron but he is THE MAIN reason they are about to lose this series and that is not arguable. If he shows up and plays like he normally does every game in this series then the Cavs are up 3-2 at the worst.

I'll take Antawn Jamison over everyone outside of Dwight Howard and maybe Jameer Nelson on Orlando. I'll also take him over everyone outside of Kobe and Gasol in LA. I'll take him over Grant Hill and Robin Lopez in Phoenix as well. Jamison is actually shooting 46% in this series (the same % as LeBron) and is averaging 13 and 8 boards a game. Shaq is giving Cleveland 14 points per game and shooting over 50% in the series as well. Mo Williams is the only guy who has completely no showed this series outside of game 1.

The Celtics are worse team then Cleveland. They have jack shit outside of Rondo and the Arthritic Three. Jamison and Shaq have both outplayed Paul Pierce in this series and Ray Allen has really only shown up in the teams wins and has played poorly in the losses.

So you are saying Lebron would make up the 22 points they lost by at home? I doubt it. I would say Kendrick Perkins has played well. I understand Lebron is the man but he shouldn't do this all by himself. I believe Tuesday's game was a statement game by Lebron. This team can't win when he's not playing well. The Lakers can win when Kobe has a bad night. Why? Because he has a good cast around him. Guaranteed the Lakers don't lose a game 5 at home that bad if Kobe played like Lebron did. That was a 20 point victory by the Celtics. It shouldn't be all on Lebron whether this team can keep a game close or not.

Of course he wants to be a winner but that doesn't mean it's going to be in New York and it doesn't mean it's going to be with LeBron. He also isn't going to give up a max contract just so he can win. The Knicks can afford two max contracts but again it's not like Bosh and LeBron going their is some guarantee.



San Antonio has won two titles fairly recently with only one true superstar. The Pistons in 2004 had no real superstar and they won the title. Having two superstars helps but it isn't something you NEED.

Exactly. The Knicks can afford two max contracts. Bosh is not staying in Toronto. So why not go to a place that can give you a max contract and allow you to play along side one of the best in the world? Never did I say guarantee but its more of a reality than Lebron staying in Cleveland. Cleveland has tried to bring players in who they think can win and they have shown they don't know who those players are.

And I would argue that Parker was as close to a superstar as you could be for S.A. iDetroit is an exception. Other than them, the 2 superstar team has won.

 

[Big Sexy]

So you are saying Lebron would make up the 22 points they lost by at home? I doubt it. I would say Kendrick Perkins has played well. I understand Lebron is the man but he shouldn't do this all by himself. I believe Tuesday's game was a statement game by Lebron. This team can't win when he's not playing well. The Lakers can win when Kobe has a bad night. Why? Because he has a good cast around him. Guaranteed the Lakers don't lose a game 5 at home that bad if Kobe played like Lebron did. That was a 20 point victory by the Celtics. It shouldn't be all on Lebron whether this team can keep a game close or not.

Kendrick Perkins has averaged 7 points per game, he isn't exactly lighting the world on fire. As far as LeBron goes it isn't just the numbers. In the losses especially game 5 he has just seemed disinterested. He isn't taking over games when he should, and he isn't being a good leader at all.

And if Kobe went 3-14 with 14 points and played like LeBron did, the Lakers most certainly would not beat a team like the Celtics in the playoffs. LeBron just flat out didn't show up and it was an embarrassing performance on his part.

 

[People's Champ]

Kendrick Perkins has averaged 7 points per game, he isn't exactly lighting the world on fire. As far as LeBron goes it isn't just the numbers. In the losses especially game 5 he has just seemed disinterested. He isn't taking over games when he should, and he isn't being a good leader at all.

And if Kobe went 3-14 with 14 points and played like LeBron did, the Lakers most certainly would not beat a team like the Celtics in the playoffs. LeBron just flat out didn't show up and it was an embarrassing performance on his part.

I thought the Celtics had jack shit besides Rondo and the Arthritc Three? Anyways I never said tghey would win but they wouldn't have lost the way the Cavs did. I think Lebron is seeing his team-which was the best all season-struggling to beat an old Celtics team while everyone else has swept and is waiting for them to finish up. That's my feeling because it didn't look as if he was completely in the game. Am I saying its right for him to be this way? No. But this team was suppose to be the team that finally got it done and its not happening.

 

[Big Sexy]

I thought the Celtics had jack shit besides Rondo and the Arthritc Three?

They do have jack shit and I never said otherwise. You brought up Perkins and I said he was shit because he basically is. 7 points per game is nothing. Not exactly sure what your question here is.

Anyways I never said tghey would win but they wouldn't have lost the way the Cavs did.

If Kobe completely disappeared as a superstar player and as a leader then yes they would probably get blown out.

I think Lebron is seeing his team-which was the best all season-struggling to beat an old Celtics team while everyone else has swept and is waiting for them to finish up. That's my feeling because it didn't look as if he was completely in the game. Am I saying its right for him to be this way? No. But this team was suppose to be the team that finally got it done and its not happening.

If LeBron is letting these things get to him and letting it affect his play then he is a little bitch. It's the fucking NBA playoffs and you're facing a veteran team with three potential future hall of famers. The Celtics are definitely the inferior team and the big three are a shell of their former selves but they still aren't just going to lay down. LeBron needs to man up and play like he has all season and if he does that then the Cavs will win this series. If he doesn't then there are no more excuses as to why the Cavs lost other then LeBron just didn't get it done.

 

[Franchize1990]

I think if Lebron does indeed leave, he's not going to New York unless he knows somebody else is coming over with him. The supporting cast there is absolutely terrible compared to Cleveland. Being a Laker fan, I hope he wouldn't mind taking a pay cut and come over to L.A. He wants to play for a championship, L.A is practically in contention every year. He wants to play in a big market city, L.A is easily one of the most marketable cities in the country. Another plus for James would be playing for a coach who is known for guiding and handling multiple talents to a title. Wishful thinking, I know, but it would be great if I could actually see this happen.

Wow really? Its Lebron's fault? He's to blame for them getting blown out at home in an important Game 5? Come on really? Every team left has at least 2 superstars and swept their series. Well every team except the Cavs. They only have Lebron. To blame him is garbage. The only reason they are in this position is BECAUSE OF Lebron. Anybody watching this series knows that this cast is garbage. They got an old Shaq, an average Jamison, and a crappy Mo Willams. Sorry when looking at all the other teams left, his cast is by far the worst.

It is Lebron's fault they got blown out in game 5. The supporting cast (and by supporting cast, I mean the other starters) has been consistent all series long, regardless of whether they win or lose. The big difference has been the way Lebron's been playing. Game 5 we saw Lebron, the same guy who in the same situation single handily put the entire team on his back three years ago and score the last 25 points to beat Detroit, be content with just sitting back and throw up jump shots all day. To put that loss on anybody but Lebron is ridiculous.

 

[People's Champ]

So Lebron allowed the Celtics to score 120 points that game? Bullshit. The Cavs played no defense and that's the reason they got blownout. And us sitting here arguing about the cast makes no difference because its not us who matters but what he thinks. And if he feels as tho this cast sucks (which it does compared the the rest of the teams) then he's going to bounce. Simple as that. They have tried now bringing in "pieces" to fit and make this a championship team. Lebron shouldn't have to do all the work. And if they lose tonight, then he's gone. Go to a team that can sign another max player, like New York and have the help you want.

In the end, us arguing is tiresome. We just have to agree to disagree. While this cast may be better than years past, its still not good enough to beat even the old Celtics, who although are not just going to die easliy, should if this Cavs team was as good as everyone says they were. To blame Lebron is plain rediculous.

By the way, as a Laker fan, it would be interesting to see Kobe and Lebron on the same team down in L.A. however I doubt either of them would want to team together. If they were, the NBA title would be on lockdown for years. Lebron don't need the money. But we all know damn well he ain't just going to let it walk.

 

[Big Sexy]

In the end, us arguing is tiresome. We just have to agree to disagree. While this cast may be better than years past, its still not good enough to beat even the old Celtics, who although are not just going to die easliy, should if this Cavs team was as good as everyone says they were. To blame Lebron is plain rediculous.

I'll agree to disagree on the LeBron leaving thing but this supporting cast is more then capable of beating the Celtics. You can't deny what is happening on the court. LeBron plays great, the team wins. LeBron plays average to below average, the team loses. Those are facts and they aren't disputable. The supporting cast hasn't been spectacular but they haven't been complete shit either. The Cavs go as LeBron goes just like the Lakers go as Kobe goes, and the Suns go as Steve Nash goes. Lebron has played horrendously by any superstars standards the last two games. In years past other factors could be blamed but I am standing by the fact that this year LeBron is the biggest reason they are about to lose this series. Superstars have to be superstars to win championships and LeBron isn't playing at that level right now

 

[People's Champ]

I'll agree to disagree on the LeBron leaving thing but this supporting cast is more then capable of beating the Celtics. You can't deny what is happening on the court. LeBron plays great, the team wins. LeBron plays average to below average, the team loses. Those are facts and they aren't disputable. The supporting cast hasn't been spectacular but they haven't been complete shit either. The Cavs go as LeBron goes just like the Lakers go as Kobe goes, and the Suns go as Steve Nash goes. Lebron has played horrendously by any superstars standards the last two games. In years past other factors could be blamed but I am standing by the fact that this year LeBron is the biggest reason they are about to lose this series. Superstars have to be superstars to win championships and LeBron isn't playing at that level right now

To make sure this gets cleared up, I never said the cast was complete shit. But I would rather have any of the other teams remaining and their cast over Cleveland. So by that, they aren't that great. And never did I say Lebron was not responsible for this series, but he certainly isn't the whole reason they are going to lose this series. Again Lebron didn't allow the Celtics to score 120 points. And Kobe didn't have a great series against the Thunder but you had guys like Gasol and Bynum play big. Same in the Utah series. You had players make big shots, help carry the team. Not always does Kobe plays a bad game=blowout. That's my point. Lebron is playing bad noone is arguing that. But not to the tune of blowouts. Which have happened in this series. This is a whole team letdown.

 

[gd]

Bosh - Gone, for sure. He plays in TORONTO for christ's sake. Would you want to play in Toronto? Not only is he playing in Canada, but his team absolutely sucks and they have a ton of money invested in the like of Hedo. I think he'll end up in Dallas or something.

Wade - It seems he's going to stay in Miami, but I'm not sure why. Absolutely terrible supporting cast and hardly any fan support. I guess it's just loyalty, but I don't see why he wouldn't want to go to a much better situation in Chicago. Probably the weather.

LeBron - If they go out to Boston, he may be gone. Honestly, he's just never had enough support in Clevland. It's been a mix of bad front office and bad coaching that hasn't let them succeed in the playoffs, along with LeBron's shortcomings as well. He may seem like a dick for doing so, but I could see him in a Knick's jersey next year, easily.

 

[Frozentrash75]

Lebron James- I think that Lebron will stay but i'm not a 100% sure and if he does leave i don't think he should go to the chicago bulls not the knick's i mean chicago has derrick rose who's a great point guard and they have Noah, Hinrich, and Deng and if they get Lebron they can move Deng and some others pieces and maybe do a sign and trade for a good player like Amare, Boozer, or Bosh i still think he will be a Cav but if he does leave he should go to the Bulls.

Chris Bosh- I think that Bosh will either end up with the Knicks or the Bulls i think that both teams could use him and they can both offer him a Max Contract and i think he's looking to play in a big city.

Dwayne Wade- I think that he will probably end up staying in miami i think he likes it there and i believe that they will get him some help in the offseason to convince him to stay.

Joe Johnson- i think he is gone and i'm pretty sure that he is gonna be a New York i think he want's some money and New York has a lot of that to spend.

Dirk Nowitzki- He's not going anywhere Dallas is a very good team with a great owner committed to winning.

Amare Stoudemire- I think he stays with the sun's their a good team and they didn't trade him so we know they are serious about keeping him around if he were to leave i think he would join D-Wade in Miami.

Carlos Boozer- This is a tough one i'm not real sure where he will end up i believe it will be one of three places the Jazz, Heat, or Bulls.