Should Bobby Roode Form His Own Group?

[New Hot Fed]

With all the shanigans that has been going with Sting and so forth, at the end of the day Roode may still be champ, he may have taken Sting out but we're talking about challengers coming back and forth to take his belt from Storm to Bully to Hardy and so forth plus all the stuff with Sting and this will continue for months. Not to mention what he may face after his match with Storm if he still has the belt.

It's strange to me that so far that Roode hasn't had some serious help. There were guys like Bully and Angle but it's been mostly happening by luck and not something that pre-planned. If Roode has to play a dominating champ, if he has to rule and be a great heel, he has to make the Impact Zone his domain, he has to be the smartest guy in the room. As such he has to have a more organized backup. Whether it's just hiring a permanent valet or bodyguard. Or better yet just form his own group and rule the World, attack everybody in sight, make sure it hurts facing and challenging Bobby Roode. Shouldn't it make sense for a top heel to act this way?

 

[ABMorales787]

HELL NO! The best part about Bobby Roode's reign is that he's done it all by himself. In the 10 year history of TNA, how many heel World Champions haven't had a stable behind him? Look it up. They all had one. Bobby Roode broke that trend for us and I welcome that breath of fresh air where a heel isn't trying to take over the company and just wants to be Champion.

 

[SacredMesa]

I'm gonna disagree as well. Roode's run has been fantastic on his own and he's used every thing available to him to ensure he would keep that title.

He's used Bully Ray making him believe he would get a 1v1 title shot.
He used the ability to get a draw in an ironman match to keep the title.
Exploited Storm being injured by Angle.
Used a no contest to retain the title and cost Storm a 1v1 rematch as well as used Bully Ray to trick Sting to stop the #1 contender match between Hardy and Storm
He exploited Stings hatred of him to not only get Sting to help him win a match but then made him make the count and raise his hand as the winner, that is still my fav part of his run so far that was booked perfectly imo.


His character has been brilliant in this run and the booking has been great. He's been cowardly but also smart and manipulative. He's dominated and he's done it on his own. It's been a long time since we saw a solo heel dominate and it's very refreshing.

 

[IHW]

I think he is doing GREAT on his own!
But adding a chick to him and giving him that Edge and Lita relationship would be entertaining. . . but he is married and thats not happening.

 

[Paralyzer Z]

I believe that one of the main selling points to Roode's character is that, like others have stated that he manages to retain on his own. That and he is booked to look like a "smart take advantage champion". Regardless I believe that he has done quite the job as TNA champion, it's something rather fresh that we have seen in recent months. Making a stable out of this to me would be a step in the wrong direction for TNA.

How many stables of groups you say have "dominated" TNA within the past 5 years? I can count about 3 off the top of my head including Immortal just in itself. Stables are something that have been consistently redundant in the company. To keep things short there is no need for yet another heel group when Immortal is still the top heel group. Think of the Corre and Nexus in WWE, it didn't go anywhere at all and neither would another heel stable in TNA.

The idea is counter-productive, I believe that for the moment Roode can remain the ways he has.

 

[snoopy]

Well I Think he at least is going to get a valet. I mean that character has always had one! That's the Franchise character Shane Douglass had francine and Triple H had Chyna or Stephanie Mcmahon.Maybe that's the reason Chelsea came back?

 

[DirtyD79]

HELL NO! The best part about Bobby Roode's reign is that he's done it all by himself. In the 10 year history of TNA, how many heel World Champions haven't had a stable behind him? Look it up. They all had one. Bobby Roode broke that trend for us and I welcome that breath of fresh air where a heel isn't trying to take over the company and just wants to be Champion.

Yeah it's time for not just TNA but all of wrestling to move away from the whole heel stable trying to take over the company thing. The nWo was fun but it's time to move on. I'm sorry but you can't go home again.

 

[GrandSword]

Roode is somewhat following the HHH template to success. Not the most charismatic guy on the block, but if booked strong, booked to win and booked with the title, then can be one of the top heels of the 2010s...

Yes TNA has had an overkill of stables over the last two years, and yes one of the best parts of Roode's reign has been breaking away from them.

However later down the track to solidfy himself as a top dog, leading a faction would be great for his career. It doesn't have to happen now, but much like Triple H and Ric Flair, it would really help but build the brand that is Bobby Roode, and in doing so help TNA show they can create top level stars which people want to see (or in Roode's case see get beat)

 

[yoshi_doce2006]

Right now there are two things stopping this. First, the timing is off, it isn't needed. Roode is getting over as The Man on his own, he needs to focus on himself right now, not a group.

Secondly there is nobody similar enough to Roode in TNA to work with him that way. Trips had the other DX mates, he had his Evolution mates, all similar in some way; Flair had the Horsemen, Flair was a cousin to the Anderson's and Tully was a best friend, ALL of them were close off screen at the time and acted similar.

TNA doesn't have that talent pool that the NWA Territories had or the WWE had when they had both FCW and OVW in their back pockets. Now TNA has OVW, but those guys are not on Roode's level. Wait until you get guys you can build on that level. Right now maybe Roode and Aries, but right now that is stretching a bit.

 

[King Patrick Star]

I am not saying Roode needs a Stable. He is doing fine on his "own". However, I’ve said something similar to this on another thread.

Four Horsemen
Ric Flair played by Bobby Roode
Barry Windham played by Bully Ray
Arn Anderson played by James Storm
Tully Blanchard played by Austin Aries

Evolution
Triple H played by Bobby Roode (I originally had Mr. Anderson in this role)
Ric Flair played by Jeff Jarrett
Randy Orton played by Robbie E.
Batista played by Robbie T.

Either of these basic storylines would work. I’m not saying Bobby needs a Stable around him, but the other 3 Stars could benefit from hanging out with the Champ. I’d even throw in Samoa Joe and Magnus as their Tag Team.

 

[Self High 5]

My head says no, absolutely not. Mr Roode is "The Leader of the Selfish Generation" (I love that tagline by the way). His single mindedness and paranoia around retaining his title would not lend themselves to trusting anyone to watch his back.

The only thing I could see would be Roode using an imposing mid-carder (as much as I don't like them, I'm thinking Crimson or Morgan) as a bit of dumb muscle (ie what Shawn Michaels did with Diesel, and then Sid), only to have them slowly but surely come to resent Roode and to want their shot at the gold. Voila! Instant new face challenger. Only thing is, I don't see Roode holding the belt after Lockdown, so this obviously wouldn't have enough time to build and play out before.

TNA sucks at stables. Immortal my arse.

 

[New Hot Fed]

Right now there are two things stopping this. First, the timing is off, it isn't needed. Roode is getting over as The Man on his own, he needs to focus on himself right now, not a group.

Secondly there is nobody similar enough to Roode in TNA to work with him that way. Trips had the other DX mates, he had his Evolution mates, all similar in some way; Flair had the Horsemen, Flair was a cousin to the Anderson's and Tully was a best friend, ALL of them were close off screen at the time and acted similar.

TNA doesn't have that talent pool that the NWA Territories had or the WWE had when they had both FCW and OVW in their back pockets. Now TNA has OVW, but those guys are not on Roode's level. Wait until you get guys you can build on that level. Right now maybe Roode and Aries, but right now that is stretching a bit.

One guy that is kind of similar to Roode is Austin Aries as far as having a meteoritic rise and being so dominant in his position and carrying a belt.

Bobby Roode, in a stable?

At the rate he seems to being going, there isn't any reason why he should be in one.

The reason being he has been lucky so far on his own.

 

[New Hot Fed]

I heard the arguments against so far and I agree with most of them. It's true that Roode's rule has been awesome on his own. It's refreshing to see. Also it's true that stables are overplayed and TNA rarely does them well.

That said I was going from a standpoint of

1. Storyline Logic. That the guy can't possibly continue cheating his way to the top for long all on his own.

2. That it would be nice seeing Roode just tearing shit up with a gang of badasses, going nuts and attacking people to show his dominance like the 4 Horsemen of old. It wouldn't be done like Immortal but more like guys with a similar style fighting for a common cause. Hell they could be hired guns brought from outside of TNA to protect Roode at all cost.

 

[Lowdown]

Roode has been doing fine on his own, and that includes taking advantage of the assists from Bully Ray and Angle. Yes, he has been following a similar formula the Triple H had back when he won his first title back in '99. He had Chyna from the beginning of that reign, with occasional help from someone like Shane McMahon or Shawn Michaels, but he wasn't apart of a stable again until after he lost the belt at that year's Survivor Series. Keep in mind it hasn't been that long since Fortune fell apart, so Roode needs to fly solo as champ for a while before becoming the focal point of a new stable.

 

[Dagger Dias]

I don't think that Roode needs to form his own group. Sure we have seen great groups like The Four Horsemen, Evolution, and one could even argue the Main Event Mafia for TNA. Stables don't always work out as well as planned though. What if this group failed like The Corre over in WWE? Roode would then lose some much needed momentum. It's not worth the risk, honestly. Especially considering how great he has been doing as TNA World Champion so far. I like what I have seen from him in singles action and think it's better than him leading a faction would have been.

The group might benefit the other guys involved, but Roode himself doesn't need it. Beer Money and Fortune both helped him get to where he is. Now he is out on his own and has done very well. Why risk ruining that by forming a team for him that they don't know if it will work out or not? If they knew it'd work out fantastically, then I'd be all for it. Roode deserved this shot at a singles run at the top, they should let him continue it. He no longer needs any teams, even ones he would be the leader of. Not right now anyway.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

My head says no, absolutely not. Mr Roode is "The Leader of the Selfish Generation" (I love that tagline by the way). His single mindedness and paranoia around retaining his title would not lend themselves to trusting anyone to watch his back.

The only thing I could see would be Roode using an imposing mid-carder (as much as I don't like them, I'm thinking Crimson or Morgan) as a bit of dumb muscle (ie what Shawn Michaels did with Diesel, and then Sid), only to have them slowly but surely come to resent Roode and to want their shot at the gold. Voila! Instant new face challenger. Only thing is, I don't see Roode holding the belt after Lockdown, so this obviously wouldn't have enough time to build and play out before.

TNA sucks at stables. Immortal my arse.

I agree with this post. I dont think Roode should go down the road of forming his own stable. However, I do like the idea of Roode hiring someone to watch his back while he focuses on remaining champion. His obsession with the gold is so great right now that having a bodyguard watching his back as extra protection, who can step in to assist him if he is in danger of losing the title is a great idea.

I have never been a great fan of Matt Morgan as a wrestler, but I think as a bodyguard for Roode I think he would be perfect. He has the size and look to make it work, and TNA have always toyed with the idea of pushing Morgan, so when the eventual fall out between Roode and Morgan would happen, there would be a new Face opponent for Roode to go up against.

I definitely think this is something that TNA could consider.

 

[MWRedskins]

the only way he should have a group is if it's an evolution type of group with a tag team and mid-carder, but i think he's fine on his own, TNA just needs to build him up better than they have and what i mean by that is have him win matches without having people interfere or having to use a weapon or get himself DQed, i understand heels cheat, but have the cheat be one that the ref rarely sees like a thumb to the eye, then hits his finish.

 

[Daniel]

This isn't a horrible idea. Normally I would be against another stable in TNA. But here, I can make an exception.

At the moment, Bobby Roode needs all the help he can get. He still looks like a midcarder. A tag team wrestler in a singles division, if you will. A couple of guys behind him could be beneficial for everyone involved. It would make him look more legitimate, and give chances to wrestlers with tons of potential in the undercard.

Failing that, Roode could just have a "special someone" so to speak. A bodyguard, perhaps? Or, in an ideal world, Roode would have Ric Flair to watch over him - a la Triple H/Flair in 2003. But unfortunately, he's stuck with the lost cause that is Gunner.

So yeah, I've heard worse ideas. Roode needs something to establish himself as a singles wrestler. He really hasn't taken to the single life like James Storm has. The only other thing that can make Roode appear more established is time. But in modern wrestling, who can wait that long, right?

 

[pod_daddy]

I think if TNA were going to do something like that, it would have to be someone like a bodyguard/enforcer, as has been said previously.

However, I believe the best person for the role would have to come from outside the company. I just don't see the Robert Roode character trusting ANYBODY in TNA (that could possibly challenge him for his championship) to guard his back. I visualize a "Big Bubba Rogers"-type character (not the costume, just the presence) in that role; a huge, intimidating nonwrestler(storyline) type to make sure things don't get out of hand.

 

[midgensa]

I cannot see any logical reason for TNA to mess with something that is going well.

Of course, it is TNA and they love to mess up a good thing.

Roode has been solid as the top dog heel. As stated a few posts ago ... the fact that he is a top heel WITHOUT a stable behind him is unique for TNA and it really helps establish him as a legitimate star. I like his "screw you" attitude to ALL comers. He has really taken this and run with it and is becoming a serious star in the business.

He has flown so high so quickly that a mid-carder like James Storm has been able to ride the coat tails to legitimacy as well.

Bobby needs no stable. He just needs to keep developing his screw the world character.

 

[Amarillo del Bosque Verde]

No? Almost every heel TNA Champ had a group. Planet Jarrett, Angle Alliance, Christian Coalition, Kings of Wrestling (Or whatever Jarrett, Nash, and Hall called themselves), Immortal, etc. Why can't Roode be different? He proves week in and week out he can do this all on his own. He's retained titles and won matches on his own. Why add a stable that will obviously get stale quickly and overall bring Roode down instead of elevate him?

He's a great champ who wins matches on his own. He doesn't need a crappy stable backing him.

 

[Shapes5]

No? Almost every heel TNA Champ had a group.

This.We have had enough factions anyway TNA should take a break from them.

 

[New Hot Fed]

Roode has been doing fine on his own, and that includes taking advantage of the assists from Bully Ray and Angle. Yes, he has been following a similar formula the Triple H had back when he won his first title back in '99. He had Chyna from the beginning of that reign, with occasional help from someone like Shane McMahon or Shawn Michaels, but he wasn't apart of a stable again until after he lost the belt at that year's Survivor Series. Keep in mind it hasn't been that long since Fortune fell apart, so Roode needs to fly solo as champ for a while before becoming the focal point of a new stable.

But see your post sort of created in my mind the germ of that new stable. Roode is fine on his own at present time. But what if, what if at some point all the heels that Roode has taken advantage of turns on him? Bully has sort of already done that. But i'm talking about further down the line. You could have Bully and Angle and a few others coming to the ring when Roode has perhaps regained his title. They want to confront him for the promesses he made to them for the help. He tries to explain himself and just when they are about to beat him, a few guys come from the crowd and attack Angle, Bully and the others. You could say Roode was waiting for right moment to use these guys. They are hired guns(to sell this properly it would have to be people not working in TNA) and all these months when Roode was champ he saved his money earned as champion to amass a buckload of doe so he could buy these guys and use them when the moment was right.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

One thing I've noticed about WWE & TNA is that both of them go to extremes when it comes to the issue of factions. WWE doesn't do factions nearly enough while TNA does them far too much. It's only been within the past several months that TNA has really focused on individuals and individual feuds rather than feuds that are branched off from the faction wars storyline that they've done to death. To me, it's one of the things that's made the product much better and generally fresher to watch.

We've seen Roode as part of a tag team for years, we saw him as part of the Fortune faction for most of 2011 and now he's finally on his own. I'd rather see him be a lone champion that will occassionally ally himself with someone, like Bully Ray for example, for the sake of convenience but can stab him in the back or throw him to the wolves just as casually as they've formed the alliance.

 

[SpecialFNK]

this could be happening soon.
this is the preview for this Thursdays Impact (yet to be taped).

Preview Thursday's can't-miss IMPACT WRESTLING broadcast on SpikeTV at 9/8c, as the road to the March 18 "Victory Road" Pay-Per-View event continues!
- Sting dropped a bombshell on Bobby Roode this past week, telling the World Champion that he would battle him at "Victory Road" on March 18! Roode's actions have unleashed Sting's maniacal side - and now "The Icon" wants revenge. He doesn't want the World Title - he just wants to annihilate Roode! How will Roode react this Thursday on IMPACT? Rumors have it that Roode is reaching out to several Impact Wrestling superstars to see if they will join with him to ban together against Sting.
- Also on the broadcast, Kurt Angle has requested time to address the reason why attacked "The Charismatic Enigma" Jeff Hardy two weeks ago and cost him his chance at regaining the World Championship against Bobby Roode. No doubt, Hardy will be in attendance, and will be watching closely!
- "The Phenomenal" AJ Styles has been vocal about the alliance between Christopher Daniels and Kazarian, and on Thursday's broadcast on SpikeTV, he wants answers! AJ will face Daniels and Kazarian in a Gauntlet Match and rumors have it that Styles has a challenge to make to Daniels and Kazarian that will end the mystery once and for all! Tune in and find out!
- In Knockouts action, Madison Rayne will battle ODB, as Rayne prepares for her upcoming Knockouts Championship match against Gail Kim at "Victory Road"
- Plus, in X Division action, Zema Ion gears up for his X Division Title shot at "Victory Road" as he faces off against Shannon Moore on Thursday's IMPACT WRESTLING broadcast
All this and much more this Thursday on SpikeTV at 9/8c!

Aries made a tweet after last weeks Impact that was later deleted.

I guess 'I'm done' is code for 'I'm booking myself in another PPV main event'. Yet the X-Division champ can't sniff a main event... #Shocker

Aries then had another tweet.

Apparently this straw over-stirred the drink…

impactwrestling.com released this statement.

Over the weekend, we received your emails and tweets regarding comments made by Austin Aries via Twitter (@AustinAries). Here are the facts - Mr. Aries posted a tweet shortly after Impact this past Thursday Night (see image 1, below) and then removed it a short time later. Thank you to the fan who emailed us a screen capture of it. The next day, he posted this next tweet. (see image 2, below). We at ImpactWrestling.com are as interested as you are to what Mr. Aries was referring to.

Over the weekend, our staff reached out to Mr. Aries who simply responded "No Comment". We've also reached out to officials from Impact Wrestling and are awaiting a response.

the images were screen shots of the 2 tweets.

is this leading to Aries joining forces with Roode? and what other TNA superstars could also be joining Roode?