Sheamus VS Cesaro: That Was A Bad Idea!

[Hard Hit Prince]

I can't stand this rivalry any longer. I literally skip the matches and don't even care if they are good/bad or who won. I never knew why they were fighting in the past month and I certainly don't know why they are fighting now. I've read somewhere that the winner here will get a title shot. Don't know if it is a US Championship or a Universal Championship match, but I sure as hell don't care anymore for the rest of the matches. Sheamus is currently 3-0 (Thanks KB for letting me know) and he's obviously not gonna win this, which leaves Cesaro. He'll go 4 victories in a row in a fucking boring rivalry and that's RAW's view as ready to challenge Kevin Owens. Cesaro may be an helluva worker but he's bland, he has no personality and he certainly isn't oozing charisma. Why does he wear suits? Jesus, he doesn't look cool.

He's the opposite of that, he's a fighter and that's how they should treat him. Getting a match with Cesaro should scare people because he would stretch the shit out of you. He doesn't need to talk ever again. Just go out there, pretend like he can crush someone's skull week after week. Get the "destroy jobbers" push and SLOWLY get him up the card. He's been lost in the midcard for so long that he doesn't have any credibility and beating Sheamus (while being beaten by Sheamus) isn't doing him any favors.

Make Cesaro vs. Sheamus next match it's last and name the #1 contender at Clash of The Champions and people will be as much interested in it as they would be after 7 (9!!!!) fucking boring and repetitive matches. I just want them to get over with it, make Cesaro vs. Owens on Raw and feed Cesaro to him, only to have him destroy jobbers and ending up in Rusev's or Braun Strowman's sight.

(Sheamus I've seen everything. Helluva worker. Gimmick is tired. One promo might do the trick like Miz, until then I don't know, let him go corporate instead of an Irish brute 'cause he Irish).

Please, tell me how much you've been loving/hating/don't giving a crap about this feud and why if you disagree with me.

 

[L@RISANO]

Switch the roles of Cesaro and Sami Zayn tonight and surely there would have been some interest.
Kevin Owens stays away from Sami and beats Cesaro in a nice back and forth in the night's main event match, whilst Sami Zayn gets to do a true underdog role in a fresh feud against the bully Sheamus with a chance at #1 contendership for the top title.


Easy booking, too bad WWE picked the wrong guy yet again. Yes, Cesaro was a hot act some time ago, but he isn't any longer. Better off putting him in a high energy tag team with Neville, who is equally as bland, lMO.

 

[kadroan]

I can't stand this rivalry any longer. I literally skip the matches and don't even care if they are good/bad or who won. I never knew why they were fighting in the past month and I certainly don't know why they are fighting now. I've read somewhere that the winner here will get a title shot. Don't know if it is a US Championship or a Universal Championship match, but I sure as hell don't care anymore for the rest of the matches. Sheamus is currently 3-0 (Thanks KB for letting me know) and he's obviously not gonna win this, which leaves Cesaro. He'll go 4 victories in a row in a fucking boring rivalry and that's RAW's view as ready to challenge Kevin Owens. Cesaro may be an helluva worker but he's bland, he has no personality and he certainly isn't oozing charisma. Why does he wear suits? Jesus, he doesn't look cool.

He's the opposite of that, he's a fighter and that's how they should treat him. Getting a match with Cesaro should scare people because he would stretch the shit out of you. He doesn't need to talk ever again. Just go out there, pretend like he can crush someone's skull week after week. Get the "destroy jobbers" push and SLOWLY get him up the card. He's been lost in the midcard for so long that he doesn't have any credibility and beating Sheamus (while being beaten by Sheamus) isn't doing him any favors.

Make Cesaro vs. Sheamus next match it's last and name the #1 contender at Clash of The Champions and people will be as much interested in it as they would be after 7 (9!!!!) fucking boring and repetitive matches. I just want them to get over with it, make Cesaro vs. Owens on Raw and feed Cesaro to him, only to have him destroy jobbers and ending up in Rusev's or Braun Strowman's sight.

(Sheamus I've seen everything. Helluva worker. Gimmick is tired. One promo might do the trick like Miz, until then I don't know, let him go corporate instead of an Irish brute 'cause he Irish).

Please, tell me how much you've been loving/hating/don't giving a crap about this feud and why if you disagree with me.

I agree. They should end this soon but watch the fans start to get behind it.

It's boring booking but it should work. I just hate regardless if Cesaro or even Sheamus wins they aren't going to let do anything major. KO/Rollins tied up in the main event. Reigns/Rusev got US title picture.

If anything, this should have gave Cesaro the right to go to Smackdown Live.

 

[kadroan]

Switch the roles of Cesaro and Sami Zayn tonight and surely there would have been some interest.
Kevin Owens stays away from Sami and beats Cesaro in a nice back and forth in the night's main event match, whilst Sami Zayn gets to do a true underdog role in a fresh feud against the bully Sheamus with a chance at #1 contendership for the top title.


Easy booking, too bad WWE picked the wrong guy yet again. Yes, Cesaro was a hot act some time ago, but he isn't any longer. Better off putting him in a high energy tag team with Neville, who is equally as bland, lMO.

Yeah, Zayn would have been nice being booked against Sheamus. Sheamus got a HOF resume and it would have been a good look for Sheamus to put him over just right after Zayn got the big win over Owens.

Yeah, if they want him to succeed on RAW, tag team is his best bet. It's a shame because he could be a top star on SDL. They really could use him there but oh well, maybe next year.

 

[S.J. Maximus]

This whole rivalry is WWE Creative's way of doing the exact same thing they did with Sheamus/Orton last year without having it look like it. It was legitimately around this time last year when Sheamus and Randy fought on every single RAW and consecutive ppvs for absolutely no reason, which did absolutely no favors for either man. This time around, Sheamus and Cesaro are fighting on every RAW and most likely will fight at consecutive ppvs but WWE Creative is saying "but hey, this time there's a reason so this is good TV!".

I think the concept of having a best of 7 series matches is both unique and exciting. I think the idea of having 2 men compete for the chance at a title will always bring in the attention of fans. I think Cesaro is a top 5 in-ring performer in the company. For some reason though, this feud just isn't working. I'm not sure if it's because of the fact that I simply am indifferent to Sheamus, I'm not sure if it's because the outcome of this feud seems predictable, but something is just off. I couldn't care less about the matches but am looking forward to the big payoff, which is much better than what happened with Randy and Sheamus last year.

 

[OYDK]

I don't think anybody's going to disagree with you about how boring and predictable this whole thing is, but like the guy above me alluded to, at least they're actually fighting for something. It wasn't that long ago when we would see a match like Sheamus/Cesaro happen week after week for absolutely no reason at all. The main problem with this type of series is that we've already seen every move in both of these guys' arsenals 1000 times because they pull them out every time they're in the ring. Plus, every one of their matches plays out basically the same way. It's repetitive and there's a lack of psychology involved that really needs to be there in order for the fans to enjoy, at least a tiny bit, 9 matches between the same two people. And no, wrestling with an injured back isn't enough.

One of the main things I've taken away from this rivalry has to do with Cesaro. I mean, Cesaro's a great wrestler but sometimes I think people overhype him a bit. There are (or were) some guys that can wrestle 20 matches against the same person and entertain every time while making every single one feel completely different and unique. Guys like Guerrero, Angle, Benoit, and Mysterio. Maybe it's unfair to compare the guy to wrestlers of that caliber, but the point I'm trying to make is Cesaro is missing a crucial element when it comes to making that leap into the main event in this day and age and with all the talent WWE currently has. If you can't talk than you sure as hell better be head and shoulders above everybody else in the ring and Cesaro isn't at that level. He's great, but he's not phenomenal (no pun intended).

As for Sheamus, well Sheamus is Sheamus. He's a reliable mid-card guy that drastically overachieved in his career. Cesaro should definitely win this series but if I've taken anything away from these matches, it's that Cesaro isn't ready to be in the main event. And I'm not trying to hate on the guy. It's just something that struck me literally while I was watching the match this week.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Overall, I've enjoyed the program because it's been a relevant mid-card feud that doesn't involve a title and it's featured good storytelling. The biggest problem for me, however, is that Vince likes going the underdog route too much with guys that simply aren't believable underdogs. Remember, this feud is also supposed to be about "physical dominance" and all that, but it'll ultimately just come off with both guys looking physically equal with Cesaro, most likely, winning the next four matches straight. I get what they're trying to do with Cesaro and it's ultimately much better than usual for him as a character, but this would've been more exciting if they'd been booked on equal footing.

In my opinion, I think the whole thing would've had a fresher feel if they hadn't gone with the traditional 50/50 booking, at least not throughout the entire series. I'd have gone the route of having each of them win for matches 1 & 2 as they're traditional bouts. For the next two bouts, I'd book a double DQ that comes about due to them getting into wild brawls that wind up having to empy the locker room to separate them since they're going at it so viciously. As a result, Steph & Mick decide that traditional matches won't work because it's become too heated so the 5th & 6th matches will be a Street Fight & Falls Count Anywhere with each scoring the win and have the final bout be either a Last Man Standing match or a Ladder Match with a contract for a future title match hanging above the ring.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Cesaro had full momentum behind him when he returned at the RAW after Wrestlemania and it came as a big surprise to me that a) He and Zayn were not seperated at the draft, so that one man can go for the US title and the other of the IC title and b) that he never won one of those belts, while he had that huge momentum. Summerslam would have been a good place for that. I actually thought that they were building up to something like this, when they had Cesaro come short against Rusev, once on RAW and once on Smackdown.

But no, Cesaro is back to where he was 1 year ago, no progress what's so ever, Zayn is walking the face of the earth without any actual meaning, except being so mad at Kevin Owens and Rusev has no opponent 3 weeks before Clash of the Champions and he was also involved in a filler story with Reigns, that last for about 2 weeks and does not seem like continuing.

 

[Spencesc11]

Biggest problem was he should be on Smackdown where he could be featured more and so should Sami Zayn.

Blockbuster Deal to get better talent mix....

Cesaro, Zayn, & Balor for Dean Ambrose

Think of the matches that could headline Smackdown PPV's with those guys. Plus then Ambrose can come back to Raw and The Shield could re-form and challenge the authority (McMahon, HHH, & Foley).

 

[TDFG]

I hate best of 7 matches, I'm bored of this already and yet we'll likely get 4 more weeks of this as Cesaro begins the big comeback.

I feel sorry for both these guys, it's almost as if when they were doing the Draft that these two were an after thought.

I think almost everyone would have put Cesaro on Smackdown and pushed him towards the World Title or at least into contention for it.

Sheamus on the other hand is at that situation where the World Title has almost passed him by, he's had his run, it didn't really work and it's going to be hard to try and reinvent him or inject a new lease of life into his character.

 

[enviousdominous]

The only thing that's apparently at stake in this feud is status. Status is something I can't quite figure out in terms of any current performer on RAW, Kevin Owens went from putting over Sami Zayn to becoming the top guy.

A drawn out program like this would have made more sense if Cesaro and Sheamus had more history. Right now, they're just two random extras in the clusterfuck that RAW puts on every week. Maybe do a best of seven after these guys started a feud stemming from a failed tag team or a Royal Rumble elimination. From my perspective, it was just "Oh, by the way. Best of seven." where the winner gets an atta-boy.

 

[Aquaman6686]

I've got no problem with Sheamus vs. Cesaro. Their matches are always entertaining, and they work extremely well together. I'd much rather see two deserving stars competing in this #1 Contender Best of 7 Series than some nobodies like Sami Zayn or Neville. It's about damn time Sheamus and Cesaro were in the spotlight again.

 

[Azane]

The only difference between this and the booking of say Ziggler and Corbin, or KO vs Neville from earlier this year, is that this rivalry keeps referring to the series as a best of 7, while the other 2 feuds I mention, were 7+ matches, but they never mentioned who'd won the previous matches more than 1 match in advance. We saw them fighting week after week for literally no reason, besides they were booked.

I'm never a fan of the Best of Series matches in wrestling though, if they're doing a best of 7, there will be 7 matches, making the next 3 matches predictable, Cesaro wins 3 in a row for sure, the 7th? we'll be so bored of them fighting we won't care for the match, we'll just check the scorecard for it.

Nobody wins in a best of 7, because it could be Nakamura vs Finn Balor x 7 and we'd be bored of the match by #7, This is the same booking that diluted Randy Orton vs John Cena to the point nobody cared.

 

[Psykohurricane55]

personally, i really don't have a problem with this at all since it actually tells a story from match to match and aren't just throwaway matches like let's say the darren young/titus o'neil feud.

I love how cesaro is position as a guy that has to overcome injuries and the fact that he lost 3 straight. I also love that they did something different with every match in the series as of now and they all been really good matches. Finally i think that this will help cesaro finally break into the upper mid card status and maybe an us title run which would be really great for him because while he'S not the best promo guy out there, he's still an amazing talent that can have good matches in the upper midcard as us champion.

 

[ShinChan]

I've got no problem with Sheamus vs. Cesaro. Their matches are always entertaining, and they work extremely well together. I'd much rather see two deserving stars competing in this #1 Contender Best of 7 Series than some nobodies like Sami Zayn or Neville. It's about damn time Sheamus and Cesaro were in the spotlight again.

So the guy who defeated the current Universal Champion at Battleground is a nobody? Stop doing your NxT bias. It's overdue now.

The problem with this series is that it looks like the same match every time. The series would be better if it consisted of some gimmick matches. Like now 3 matches are left. Make one a submission match, the next one a tables match and the last one a Last Man Standing match. That would enhance the quality of action in the ring and allow the both wrestlers to do much more.

 

[Vanilla Midget]

I disagree I've actually enjoyed this angle. At least if these guys are going to be working together for a while they gave them something to do instead of just randomly trading wins.

The series isn't a new idea. Repurposing ideas from the past is a good way to go. Typically best of series have had a championship between them. Maybe that's why this series feels so pointless; there's no prize at the end and most people could care less about Sheamus.

Isn't that working to some extent? Don't we all want Cesaro to win? Just because we're all smart internet fans doesn't make this a bad angle. If anything they're doing everything right: heel no one likes with odds stacked against uber-face.

This series is done by Clash of the Champions (thank God), but the name of that event is Champions. They need to add a prize to this series to make it really matter, to make what happened here have any relevance.

It doesn't have to be a Universal title match, but US would be ok. Heck, even a tag title match would be different. There just needs to be something. Number one contendership just kind of makes sense here.

We all want bigger things for Cesaro, but the longer than hold off, the bigger the reaction when they finally do. I agree with the Cesaro should have been on Smackdown sentiment, but he's not on that show.

Maybe he's traded, maybe he quits (kayfabe) and signs there, but in the mean time he's not and he isn't. Cesaro for US champ before years' end.

 

[Psykohurricane55]

So the guy who defeated the current Universal Champion at Battleground is a nobody? Stop doing your NxT bias. It's overdue now.

The problem with this series is that it looks like the same match every time. The series would be better if it consisted of some gimmick matches. Like now 3 matches are left. Make one a submission match, the next one a tables match and the last one a Last Man Standing match. That would enhance the quality of action in the ring and allow the both wrestlers to do much more.

In a way I get his point o view about sami zayn because what has he done since the debut of the brand split? Absolutely nothing, he's becoming a nobody by just being lost in the shuffle.

Has for the series itself, I have to say tha I totally disagree with your. Statement that all the match look the same. They did four single matches in this series and not one of them was book the same way, they all told a different story which is evn more important then in ring action. I really love the third match in the series when the whole point of the match was to tell the story of cesaro being injured and falling to win because of it or what they did last wednesday at the house show in london when they started to tell a story on how cesaro has to find new way to overcome the odds.

The point of a best of seven series as always been about how the performers are able to tell a great story through 7 matches and not having the same match in the process. The in ring action as always been secondary in those type of program.

 

[stingray11214]

When I was a young teen, I remember a match on TV for the Florida strap between Dory Funk, Jr. and Mike Graham. The legendary Gordon Solie did the call of this "Australian Rules" match. It took the entire hour of Championship Wrestling from Florida. Pretty decent match, even with Terry Funk whipping his towel into the match. It ended up with Dory Funk, Jr. winning 4 of the eight falls with one draw at the end of TV time. That, at least led to something: The Florida title.

Other than a pissing contest, where is the current Sheamus-Cesaro series going? This whole thing is so telegraphed that it is not funny. Nothing seems different. It seemed like this was another lazy booking attempt to give two guys something to do, rather than lead somewhere. Basically, I checked out after the second match. And, I am hoping that Cesaro has future plans to go elsewhere. He will never get the respect he deserves in WWE. He will do well in TNA/RoH.

 

[Psykohurricane55]

When I was a young teen, I remember a match on TV for the Florida strap between Dory Funk, Jr. and Mike Graham. The legendary Gordon Solie did the call of this "Australian Rules" match. It took the entire hour of Championship Wrestling from Florida. Pretty decent match, even with Terry Funk whipping his towel into the match. It ended up with Dory Funk, Jr. winning 4 of the eight falls with one draw at the end of TV time. That, at least led to something: The Florida title.

Other than a pissing contest, where is the current Sheamus-Cesaro series going? This whole thing is so telegraphed that it is not funny. Nothing seems different. It seemed like this was another lazy booking attempt to give two guys something to do, rather than lead somewhere. Basically, I checked out after the second match. And, I am hoping that Cesaro has future plans to go elsewhere. He will never get the respect he deserves in WWE. He will do well in TNA/RoH.

If you are following the story that is being told here, while they haven'T been clear on which title the winner will get to challenge it's still lead to one of them getting a title shot which i'm thinking would be the u.s. title if i was the one booking this. Again if i was booking this, i would not only give the winner a title shot but have him actually win the title match and give him a good title run to establish whoever win this as a upper mid card guy and somebody worthy of challenging for the universal title.

 

[stingray11214]

If you are following the story that is being told here, while they haven'T been clear on which title the winner will get to challenge it's still lead to one of them getting a title shot which i'm thinking would be the u.s. title if i was the one booking this. Again if i was booking this, i would not only give the winner a title shot but have him actually win the title match and give him a good title run to establish whoever win this as a upper mid card guy and somebody worthy of challenging for the universal title.

If you read my post, the match I mentioned was FOR a strap. Not the POSSIBILITY of competing for a strap. ANd, if what you say has not been communicated well, that is WWE's problem, not mine.

 

[Psykohurricane55]

If you read my post, the match I mentioned was FOR a strap. Not the POSSIBILITY of competing for a strap. ANd, if what you say has not been communicated well, that is WWE's problem, not mine.

Yeah, but you also wrote that cesaro and sheamus weren't fighting for something and it was just something to keep them busy which isn't the case at all

For me this is the type of stuff that I like and that I grew up with when I was wrestling in the late 80's and early 90's, 2 guys fighting to prove who's better and ultimately one of the 2 will win the series and move on to better thing. This is the old school way of making a superstars which you should actually like since it seem that you been watching wrestling as long as I have even maybe longer then me. But if you don't like it and thing that it's just busy work, then you got the right to your opinion.