Seth Rollins w/ Paul Heyman: good idea?

[CyberPunk]

After the handshake at the end of RAW last night, I was thinking about this. Then I read about it in one of the threads posted here and thought some more about it. And somewhere in my mind, I can't help but think that Rollins and Heyman would make an excellent pair. So, I wanted to discuss it some more.

Rollins has established himself as one of the top heels in WWE. He is the MITB holder. However, the backing of authority is gone. So what does he do now? Associate with Heyman. I mean, why not? Rollins is excellent inside the ring, and decent enough on mic. Associating a heat magnet like Heyman can prove to be a blessing for him. 'The future of WWE' would sound great from Heyman. But then Heyman had other talents associated with him and they didn't work. So how can this be better?

I think the problem that Heyman's association with likes of Curtis Axel, Ryback and Cesaro was that they actually had nothing for these talents. Just adding 'Paul Heyman guy' doesn't make anyone star. Axel and Ryback were just afterthoughts in Punk vs Heyman feud while Cesaro's alliance with Heyman never really took off (when did Heyman even promote Cesaro during their time together?). However, that shouldn't be the problem with Rollins. He's already established top heel in WWE. He holds the MITB briefcase. Heyman can help establish that further. How do you book this?

IMO, Wrestlemania presents the best option for this. If Reigns vs Lesnar happens, let Reigns win the title from Lesnar. And as soon as he goes in celebration mood, let Heyman bring Rollins in and order the cash in. Let Rollins take title off Reigns. If Lesnar doesn't re-sign, it would let Heyman have something to do after Wrestlemania. If Lesnar re-signs, they can have them as a stable till one of them turns on the other two. He can draw immense heat for Rollins, and it's easier because Rollins at this point is way more established and over than Ryback/Axel/Cesaro combined.

So, in my head, Rollins/Heyman alliance just sounds too perfect. What do you guys think? Can this alliance work? How do you think they should approach it, if at all? Pitfall to this idea?

Discuss.

 

[MartialHorror]

It's a good idea, but I don't know if it's necessary. part of the reason Brock and Heyman work so well together is that Brock's promos aren't very good. Hayman is the best talker. Remember when he was paired with Cesaro and everyone thought that was an unnecessary idea? Same goes for Rollins, who is better on the mic than Cesaro.

Maybe Heyman should turn face and work with Reigns?

 

[Starkist]

I don't really want to see Lesnar in a stable with Rollins. Especially if Rollins is champion. I don't think Lesnar wants to play second fiddle to anybody. Anyone. At. All. So a stable with the three in my eyes wouldn't work. I definitely do not want to see Rollins with Heyman. With the handshake it look as if it was a mutual agreement between the two parties. Nothing where the two will join forces.

As I mentioned in one of your other threads, I would rather see Heyman as RAW General Manager versus anything else if Brock Lesnar does in fact leave.

 

[L@RISANO]

I think it is a possibility and the WWE definitely planted some seed for the possibility with the handshake last night.

It isn't clear if Brock is leaving or not as yet, but I think WWE are trying to prepare for the possibility, and this was one of the preparations for it.

Heyman/Rollins could prove to be a big help for Rollins going forward, as I think he'd have a much longer run at the top. Maybe it can be similar to Punk and Heyman if done correctly.

 

[Zycho32]

This protects Rollins, essentially. Storyline-wise, once the Authority bit it after Survivor Series, Rollins should've been dead meat. Kane seemed to drop away from him, Big Show is about as reliable as a rolling stone, and how his 'security' survives unmolested week in and week out is beyond me.

So Rollins does the Heel thing and finds the next big thing to hide behind and plot. The only real problem is... well, what do you do when Brock Lesnar doesn't show up?

Unless the cash has been ponied up and you get to see Brock on as many Raws as possible up to and past the Royal Rumble, this is a paper tiger Rollins has secured himself to. There's no real degree of protection this offers. This can only be used to screw John Cena's championship aspirations until he caves in, which is probably the idea.

But this HAS to end with Heyman turning on Rollins before Rollins turns face, or there's no comeuppance to speak of.

 

[Navi]

I don't see it happening. Rollins said on Smackdown tonight he is going to keep up his campaign to get the Authority back come hell or high water. He promised to make everyone's life miserable until it happens. Knowing Heyman's tenuous relationship with HHH having Rollins side with Heyman would be a slap in the face to HHH.

It remains to be seen what will happen, but Rollins is doing fine on his own right now. One day he will turn face again, and I fully expect to see the Shield reunite for a short time anyway. What a mistake breaking them up to begin with.

 

[kadroan]

After the handshake at the end of RAW last night, I was thinking about this. Then I read about it in one of the threads posted here and thought some more about it. And somewhere in my mind, I can't help but think that Rollins and Heyman would make an excellent pair. So, I wanted to discuss it some more.

Rollins has established himself as one of the top heels in WWE. He is the MITB holder. However, the backing of authority is gone. So what does he do now? Associate with Heyman. I mean, why not? Rollins is excellent inside the ring, and decent enough on mic. Associating a heat magnet like Heyman can prove to be a blessing for him. 'The future of WWE' would sound great from Heyman. But then Heyman had other talents associated with him and they didn't work. So how can this be better?

I think the problem that Heyman's association with likes of Curtis Axel, Ryback and Cesaro was that they actually had nothing for these talents. Just adding 'Paul Heyman guy' doesn't make anyone star. Axel and Ryback were just afterthoughts in Punk vs Heyman feud while Cesaro's alliance with Heyman never really took off (when did Heyman even promote Cesaro during their time together?). However, that shouldn't be the problem with Rollins. He's already established top heel in WWE. He holds the MITB briefcase. Heyman can help establish that further. How do you book this?

IMO, Wrestlemania presents the best option for this. If Reigns vs Lesnar happens, let Reigns win the title from Lesnar. And as soon as he goes in celebration mood, let Heyman bring Rollins in and order the cash in. Let Rollins take title off Reigns. If Lesnar doesn't re-sign, it would let Heyman have something to do after Wrestlemania. If Lesnar re-signs, they can have them as a stable till one of them turns on the other two. He can draw immense heat for Rollins, and it's easier because Rollins at this point is way more established and over than Ryback/Axel/Cesaro combined.

So, in my head, Rollins/Heyman alliance just sounds too perfect. What do you guys think? Can this alliance work? How do you think they should approach it, if at all? Pitfall to this idea?

Discuss.

Good topic. However, I don't think Rollins need Heyman. He emerged from The Shield and joined The Authority which gave him an opportunity to stand out among Ambrose and Reigns. Meanwhile, being a member of The Authority, he managed to take Orton's spot and stand out as top heel after Brock left and Orton turned. With The Authority gone and him on his own, this can only add more character development. I think him joining Heyman would be a step back in his development as one of the top stars in the WWE.

He doesn't need Heyman as a mouthpiece and he doesn't need him to draw heat. All Rollins need to do is to get his moment and he could get that if they book him to cash in on Brock/Cena at Royal Rumble or Brock/Reigns at WrestleMania, totally unexpected and he would get heat like no other.

Rollins is the MITB holder, that alone secures him. Now if he wasn't the MITB briefcase holder, then yeah I'd suggest him to go with Heyman.

 

[lil steroid meat]

Great idea and a great way to freshen up Rollins and get this Authority stench off of him. His character has relied on The Authority for what seems like forever (and I know it's only been since the summer) and this is a great way to reinvent him somewhat.

For everyone who says he doesn't "need" Heyman, Punk didn't "need" him either, and that made it even better. Watching them interact on the mic was gold and this can make for some great moments.

I'm all for it.

 

[BigSlabby26]

Honestly, I don't think Rollins cashes in on Reigns at wrestlemania, if Reigns wins the title I reckon Wwe are gonna give him his big wrestlemania moment and walk out with the championship. For me putting Rollins with Heyman is a decent move, it gives him someone to make him look like a huge heel, but also with Heyman it gets him close to Lesnar and cashing in on him can go one of two ways, either Lesnar then leaves and Rollins becomes the next big heel, or, if Lesnar stays, it could actually lead to a Rollins face turn. Either way, Rollins is gonna have a great 2015

 

[OYDK]

Y'know I should be more excited about this, but I'm just not. It reminded me very much of the Heyman/Punk alliance, in the sense that C.M. Punk definitely did not need Paul Heyman just like Rollins does not need Paul Heyman; however I will admit that the Punk/Heyman alliance was great. I just don't think there is really any need for Rollins to align himself with Paul Heyman at this time. What's the point? I mean, sure it's a good "plan B" for Heyman if Lesnar does not win at Mania, but why does Seth Rollins need Heyman to cash in his MITB? Why can't he just do it himself?

Also, there is the whole Authority thing. What happens when they come back? Do HHH and Heyman feud over Rollins, do they align themselves with each other, or does The Authority just ignore Seth?

Idk, I just feel apprehensive about this if they are indeed trying to make Rollins the next "Heyman guy"... I think it will actually hinder Rollins because it would take away some of his promo time which he is doing great with right now. Imo, it's a risk that's not needed with Rollins.

 

[LoveReignsO'erMe]

I apologize if something like this was already said (I did not really read the full thread yet), but I would like to see Heyman and Reigns team up. It's been mentioned a few times in other threads (and possibly this thread), but that pairing makes much more sense to me.

Reigns can't talk on the mic. At all. He is very intimidating looking and has the potential to be the beast that destroys everything in his path much like Lesnar. I would like to see a build towards WM 31 that includes:

Reigns winning Royal Rumble. I don't think he should go #1 or #2, as he is not the type of wrestler who would realistically win from that slot. Most #1 entries that won were the small type. But I could understand if that's what they wanted to do.

Rollins having more "moments" with Heyman where it appears to us that they are teaming up in some way. Perhaps a Heyman distraction during a Rollins match at Royal Rumble or Fast Lane that leads to a Rollins victory over his opponent (Randy Orton?)

Then, at WM, during the Lesnar/Reigns main event, Reigns wins and gets his WM moment. Rollins comes down to cash in, thinking Heyman/Lesnar will help him get the victory. Instead, while Rollins has his back turned to Heyman, focusing on a worn down Reigns, Heyman grabs the title belt and knocks Rollins out with it. Reigns makes the cover and wins, celebrating with Heyman.

I know that would get a huge pop, but you could possibly hint at a face turn for Rollins and a heel turn for Reigns leading up to it. Or do something on the Raw afterwards that cements Reigns as a heel.

He has the look of a heel, so make him a heel. Heyman is the perfect mouthpiece, and we will need a new monster after Lesnar is gone. I think it's perfect, and would push Reigns to the stratosphere, to "take over" the Lesnar role in WWE.

More of the established wrestlers in WWE are face anyway, or are hinted at being turned face (Cena, Ziggler, Orton, Bryan, Ambrose, Rollins--since he would be a face at this point) and I feel that there are many more possible feuds for a heel Reigns than a face Reigns.

I doubt they'll go in this direction, but to me it makes a ton of sense.

 

[Mudlup50]

Boy, o boy was that my favorite part of Raw or what!? Now maybe it's just me but I see a few different ways this can go down.

1. Heyman uses Rollins to assure a Lesnar victory at RR: After Lesnar's last title defense at Night Of Champions, remember how close he was to losing the belt? Lesnar now has a consistent ally to assure him he retains in his next defense! Genius

2. Heyman uses Rollins to write Lesnar off TV post Mania: How many guys this year have been written off TV by a curbstomp? Ambrose, Swagger and Orton come to mind. What if the idea is for Rollins to turn on Lesnar at Mania and curbstomp him into next week and cash in.

To continue this idea, imagine if Reigns wins the Rumble and fails to beat Lesnar. Then Rollins comes out and bashes both of them with the briefcase just to cash in on Lesnar. Heyman orchestrates the whole thing to write Lesnar out of the WWE forever!

3. Rollins uses Heyman to get closer to Lesnar: There has been no reason given for why Lesnar doesn't show up. Maybe just maybe he doesn't show up because he fears Seth cashing in and taking the belt from him? So they use this alliance as a way to lure Lesnar in for the next few weeks?

Just a few ideas I had, hopefully the WWE doesn't drop the ball on this one as I'm looking forward to this