RVD returns, not champ?

[boybrushedred]

I just had a quick question. I understand RVD was "injured" and stripped of the TNA world championship. However with him returning and the title still vacant why is RVD not in the title picture at all now? He is stripped of the belt but returns before they crown a new champion and can’t challenge for the belt. I figured since there isn’t a new champion yet, they should just give the belt back to RVD, but I know that won’t happen and ruin the three way dance they have going on.
So am I just looking to much into this or did TNA not think far enough ahead?

 

[TheAbsolute1]

It's RVD's fault that he was taken out, he's the one who requested time off on his contract. He doesn't even deserve the title if he's gonna be lazy while TNA originals are there day in and out, they deserve title shots and reigns alot more than RVD. Kinda bullshit if you ask me.

 

[boybrushedred]

he didnt request time off. he was approaching his contract limit of show appearances , and if he went over his contract amount Dixie would have to pay him a lot extra(think i saw that it was like 10000 per extra appearance), so she took him off the air for a couple of weeks so he wouldnt go over that amount of appearances stated in his contract and she wouldnt have to pay him extra

 

[TheAbsolute1]

he didnt request time off. he was approaching his contract limit of show appearances , and if he went over his contract amount Dixie would have to pay him a lot extra(think i saw that it was like 10000 per extra appearance), so she took him off the air for a couple of weeks so he wouldnt go over that amount of appearances stated in his contract and she wouldnt have to pay him extra

Yea, he requested that on his contract. That is the only reason he signed with TNA, so he can be at the top and get his time off...and smoke pot. Nothing against that, i smoke pot, but If you're at the big times don't be a lazy ass. The guy acts like he's been wrestling all this time, he took a whole year off so why does he need MORE time off?

 

[rondiesel2005]

If he knew his contract appearance was almost up, all they had to do was put him in a match where he loses the belt...honestly we don't know what TNA is thinking, its like they just jump to last minute making a decision that is going to question the direction of the company is going.. what i don't understand was why was the belt put on him in the first place with the whole contract thing is just ridiculous if you ask me.

It would make sense of he lost the championship to Abyss and then regain it back after the whole contract thing is solved does that make sense??

 

[TheAbsolute1]

If he knew his contract appearance was almost up, all they had to do was put him in a match where he loses the belt...honestly we don't know what TNA is thinking, its like they just jump to last minute making a decision that is going to question the direction of the company is going.. what i don't understand was why was the belt put on him in the first place with the whole contract thing is just ridiculous if you ask me.

It would make sense of he lost the championship to Abyss and then regain it back after the whole contract thing is solved does that make sense??

They did'nt want RVD to lose it, but they couldn't let him keep it while taking his break because of ow everyone else would feel about it. But yes, him losing the title then getting it later down the line(not right away because that would be a load of bullshit) would make sense.

 

[wushady]

Who knows what the truth really is. I don't by the rumor that he was taken off TV because he was running out of dates. I heard Flair was in the same position, but they decided to keep him on and pay the extra amount. I don't get why they would pay someone who don't wrestle extra but not the world champion. Or why they would put the belt on someone with that type of contract.

I think they did the injury angle to take the belt off him that way because he refused to put anyone over. He said in interview before going to TNA that he wrestled guys like Austin and the Rock. Then said "why would I go to TNA and wrestle people no one ever heard of".There's no doubt he has huge ego. He probably has creative control and wouldn't put anyone over.

I think it's ******ed to have him return before a new champion is crowned. When they stripped him of the title they weren't sure if he would ever wrestle again. Only to return a little over a month.

 

[killerd105]

This, IWC, is a prime example of bad booking. RVD comes back, doesnt go after abyss for laying him out, and doesnt go for the title that HE never lost in the first place. It's pretty funny, because i was reading a forum about this not to long ago about what was so bad about TNA's booking. Well whoever made that forum please read this and here is best example so far. Well enough of my ranting about TNA booking. (I'm sounding like Mark Madden)

The thing is RVD never had a legit contract or something like that and they didnt want to use up all his days before BGF, makes sense. But what is he supposed to do now if hes not in a grudge match or part of the title picture?

 

[rondiesel2005]

I don't think he going to get the title back any time soon after whoever becomes the new TNA champion. This is an example of how its soo damn frustrated and confusing that TNA is not treating the belt like it's a world title..they need to stop bullshittin and get their act together

 

[Schizophrenic]

This, IWC, is a prime example of bad booking. RVD comes back, doesnt go after abyss for laying him out, and doesnt go for the title that HE never lost in the first place

He hasn't come back yet, how in the bloody hell do you know what he's gonna do? Do you have some crystal ball telling you the future of wrestling story lines? Save your "blah blah blah, they can't book" mumbo jumbo until AFTER he has returned and we see what they are doing next.

 

[perrywinkle]

While I'll agree that he isn't acting like a champ and thus taking away from the title's worth, I wouldn't go as far as calling the guy lazy. He did hang onto he belt for what? four months or so and he DID defend it on a regular bases. That's more than we could say for how things are run in the WWE... As far as making sense or crap booking? Again, look at what is going on on the other side of the fence. It really isn't much brighter.

And for the rest, you guys need to chill. RVD is not back yet. We'll see how they handle it when the time comes.

 

[TheAbsolute1]

While I'll agree that he isn't acting like a champ and thus taking away from the title's worth, I wouldn't go as far as calling the guy lazy. He did hang onto he belt for what? four months or so and he DID defend it on a regular bases. That's more than we could say for how things are run in the WWE... As far as making sense or crap booking? Again, look at what is going on on the other side of the fence. It really isn't much brighter.

And for the rest, you guys need to chill. RVD is not back yet. We'll see how they handle it when the time comes.

The thing is, he's only been in TNA for about 6 months right? You've gotta admit that taking a break after 6 months is pretty lazy.

 

[perrywinkle]

Hmm, well I dunno dude. I see it this way: I have a guy like RVD who wrestled every week (most matches actually entertaining, Oh My!) vs guys who juggle the mic every other week and wrestle only at PPVs...

So yeah. I dunno what is worse. Besides, I really hate to compare because to be honest, I stopped watching the WWE maybe two years ago but I remember Michaels coming and going every few months. It happens. It's fine... besides, it gives us a vacant title and a tournament which spawned an AMAZING Angle/Hardy match. Who would've guessed?

EDIT: Kendrick is F'n AWESOME by the by....

 

[TheAbsolute1]

You're right. TNA gave RVD the title because he is well known and has a long history in pro wrestling. All I'm saying is that it's kinda selfish that he gets a break this early. But Michaels took time off because of injuries and getting way old lol and yes! Kendrick is the shit! We can at least thank WWE for bringing out the better side of Kendrick, finally letting him be himself. Man is there already a thread about this guy? I feel like discussing him lol

 

[perrywinkle]

RVD is selfish. HHH gets the title every time he comes back from injuries/vacations. So yeah, you're right. Life's a bitch.

And there should be a Kendrick thread. Man oh man, with Dixie tossing creative control to some of these guys, I could only imagine how awesome things will become. Again, I dig Abyss branding people and beating his meat in the ring and now Kendrick has locked his vibrational frequencies on all of us... shit, pro-wrestling is awesome...

 

[3:10 To Umanga]

RVD's title reign and tenure in the company has been completely ineffective. TNA thinking ahead? Not likely. Every word of every TNA-bashing column that Mark Madden has taken the time to craft gets truer by the day. TNA is not viable competition to WWE, and thus WWE will not be challenged to improve. And who gets screwed? We do.

And worse than that, TNA is not even remotely entertaining as a stand alone because it is booked in such a non-sensical fashion. So much so that it makes me forget why I would ever watch wrestling to begin with.

Can't wait until Dixie Carter arranges the reunion of bloated Hardy Boyz. Maybe they could feud with Generation Me, and then... Well, you see where this is going.

 

[KoC417]

Hey give RVD a break. He's not totally lazy. I mean hell how do any of us not know that his wife needed him? I mean after all colon cancer is no joke. For all we know RVD wanted to work then smoke, smoke some more, be with his wife, smoke together with her, smoke a bit more. Then come back.

Well wait after looking back at that, selfish doesn't come to mind. Egotistical does. RVD is so full of himself it's ridiculous. There is no doubt the man is an incredible athlete though. I mean anyone that can do a split between 2 benches AND lift 166.5lbs has to be in tremendous shape. I know if I did that I'd never walk right again...

But I have to say RVD never really deserved to be TNA's champion...wow..to think you actually have to EARN a TNA title reign. Truth be told there was more than a handful of TNA stars in the back more deserving than RVD and he came right in, won the title which many of them would KILL to do, then wouldn't work on an immediate contract extension. Egotistical! That kind of crap happens a lot though especially in promotions that are so desperate to boost ratings and compete with the competition. So RVD comes in, gets pushed right to the top after doing NOTHING for TNA, wins the title, then decides he needs time off. If TNA had talent dedicated like Undertaker, HBK, HHH, Cena, Orton etc like WWE does they'd actually be able to make a solid run at WWE. But instead they hire these outsiders that simply want to make as much $ as they can by doing as LITTLE as they can and this is what they get. Surprise surprise TNA. Stick with the loyal guys and life won't be a b*tch.

Sorry if my rant didn't make much sense. I'm running on 26minutes of sleep in the past 3 days and I have to get ready to go BACK into work.

 

[TheAbsolute1]

RVD is selfish. HHH gets the title every time he comes back from injuries/vacations. So yeah, you're right. Life's a bitch.

And there should be a Kendrick thread. Man oh man, with Dixie tossing creative control to some of these guys, I could only imagine how awesome things will become. Again, I dig Abyss branding people and beating his meat in the ring and now Kendrick has locked his vibrational frequencies on all of us... shit, pro-wrestling is awesome...

I dont approve of the triple h thing either, i think you should always have to make your way back up to the top. Idk, The Abyss thing is just way to unrealistic. And he's a pretty sloppy wrestler so I've never really been on his band wagon.

 

[TCBT]

Too much is being made about whether or not RVD asked for the time of and whether or not his contractual dates were running out. That's besides the fact. Regardless of the reason, there's absolutely no logic (as most storylines in TNA) to RVD being stripped off the Title only to come back while the Title is still vacant. On top of that, he's not even involved in the Title picture!! AND on top of THAT, there's absolutely no weight, no stakes, no importance in his so called quest for revenge. He lost his Title UNFAIRLY because a MONSTER sliced his lower body practically in HALF!!! You mean to tell me, he's going to be cool, calm, and collective????

I don't know Russo personally, but it's been said that he has the idea that wrestling fans are stupid. And while I hate to make conclusions based on what other people say, the proof is in the pudding. TNA's product insults my intelligence each week with stupid plot holes like these. Maybe someone else is involved in booking/writing this stupid storyline, but whoever it is, needs to get as far away from entertainment as possible.

 

[Chadmw]

Unlike most people here I am not a TNA hater, I actually enjoy a lot of there product.

But yeah I found this stupid right away. I agreed with the storyline originally when they said they would have to vacant the title and have a tourney due to RVD's injury. But I expected the tourney to be done and a new champion crowned at the last PPV, instead they drag on for two and a half month, and basically when RVD is ready to return, they are just going to crown the new champ.

So you have to strip RVD of the title because you can't go without a world champion (understandable), but you wait until the original champ is ready to come back to crown a new champion

 

[TheFOUR]

Yea, he requested that on his contract. That is the only reason he signed with TNA, so he can be at the top and get his time off...and smoke pot. Nothing against that, i smoke pot, but If you're at the big times don't be a lazy ass. The guy acts like he's been wrestling all this time, he took a whole year off so why does he need MORE time off?

FUCK YEAH! This guy hits the nail on the head........smoke weed everyday.....but when it comes down to it.....if its big an important.....dude.....quit being a lazy bitch.......rvd shouldn't be allowed to get the tna title back........i was all excited for him coming to tna, but he has turned into this big ass fucking joke.......he might as well go back to being retired an free up his spot for someone like Y2J or JBL or some other independent wrestler who's going to bust their ass in tna.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Why THE FUCK would you allow him the title back right before Bound For Glory? If you wanted RVD to have the title going into B.F.G you wouldn't strip him in the first place. I want to see the idiot that thinks this is a good idea.

Plus, Bischoff admitted in an interview that RVD vacating the belt was planned back in freaking MARCH.

Has it ever occured to any of you that RVD vacating the belt was a STORYLINE to set up something going down at the B.F.G Main Event for the world title? For something to go down during RVD's match at B.F.G?

Anyone who thinks that RVD wanted time off "to smoke pot", is officially the biggest fucking idiot on this planet.

EVEN if he took time off, you shouldn't be bitching, you should be happy cuz the belt is off of him. RVD is a horrible champion and I hope he never even gets a shot at it. Stick him in the X-Division where he can be useful and put young guys over. Make him an X-Division legend, not a TNA Wrestling legend.

Time off, no time off, pot, no pot, RVD's not the Champion and by the looks of it he won't be for quite a while -- I'm a happy camper.

 

[DangerousDave]

he didnt request time off. he was approaching his contract limit of show appearances , and if he went over his contract amount Dixie would have to pay him a lot extra(think i saw that it was like 10000 per extra appearance), so she took him off the air for a couple of weeks so he wouldnt go over that amount of appearances stated in his contract and she wouldnt have to pay him extra

I would be willing to bet that $10,000 figure came from RVD, which has to be bullshit. Everyone else on the roster makes between $300 and $1,000 an appearance. Remember, RVD is a legend in his own mind. Do you think Styles would put up with RVD getting 10 grand a show when he was only making a grand, I don't think so.

 

[TheAbsolute1]

FUCK YEAH! This guy hits the nail on the head........smoke weed everyday.....but when it comes down to it.....if its big an important.....dude.....quit being a lazy bitch.......rvd shouldn't be allowed to get the tna title back........i was all excited for him coming to tna, but he has turned into this big ass fucking joke.......he might as well go back to being retired an free up his spot for someone like Y2J or JBL or some other independent wrestler who's going to bust their ass in tna.

That's so true. RVD isn't even that big of a draw and he has a terrible work ethic.

 

[flairisoverated]

I understand that they want all there idea of a perfect main event is stick all the people they are "high on....pun intended", but if there reason for stripping him is the 30 day no compete clause and he returns before then to compete within that time then WTF does having they clause matter. TNA clearly made it clear that the reason was because of the no compete clause not for his injuries. Its just another reason TNA isnt doing well. You can have all the talent in the world, and they have great talent, but if not used properly it doesnt do a damn thing. This was why WCW went out of business too, was because Bischoff only cares about the next Impact/Nitro or PPV and not the bigger picture. Wake up TNA and you will see your sitting on a gold mine you just need to take off your blinders.