Roman Reigns is the future of this company, accept it.

[Big Nick Dudley]

Dean Ambrose is another Daniel Bryan, though. He looks like he should be pumping gas instead of wrestling, and the nerds of the world love that. They don't even care if he's good or not. As long as he doesn't remind them of the guy who dumped them in a trash can when they were 15, they're good.

 

[Papa Pillman]

Normally I hate Bryan Alvarez, but this is 100% spot on. If you care about this debate at all and have ever had ten minutes to listen to anything, you're doing yourself a disservice by not clicking this video...

 

[BaconBits]

I don't think Reigns is the right guy to face The Beast at Mania, but I don't think it's Bryan either.

First, Bryan/Lesnar goes a little too far out of kayfabe. It would look like Brock is playing with an action figure. Picture Brock Lesnar fighting BJ Penn. That's what it would look like.

Second, Brock's whole deal right now is Human Suplex Machine (way better than Taz ever did it, and I'm huge Taz in ECW mark). The suplexes are the type that have you land on your upper back, shoulders, and neck. Daniel Bryan's neck just kept him out of action for 8 months. Is that really the type of match you want him to wrestle these days?

Randy Orton would have been the best choice to win the Rumble. By. Far.

 

[BaconBits]

I think at this point anyone that is a babyface is going to get shit on if they didn't have indie cred or the illusion that he is getting held back.

Or they got to be the best heel ever. Smarks love themselves some heels.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

People keep saying Orton like he's not a less talented version of John Cena.

 

[Papa Pillman]

and the nerds of the world love that. They don't even care if he's good or not. As long as he doesn't remind them of the guy who dumped them in a trash can when they were 15, they're good.

I hate this fucking narrative.

The notion that every Bryan supporter or guy who roots for "indie darlings" is some unathletic, undersized, former nerd with an inferiority complex is the stupidest and most ignorant misconception perpetuated by the idiots and apologists on the internet.

 

[BaconBits]

People keep saying Orton like he's not a less talented version of John Cena.

It's good physical matchup, and it's something different.

 

[BaconBits]

I hate this fucking narrative.

The notion that every Bryan supporter or guy who roots for "indie darlings" is some unathletic, undersized, former nerd with an inferiority complex is the stupidest and most ignorant misconception perpetuated by the idiots and apologists on the internet.

Hipsters love the guy too, and Hipsters are useless piles of shit.

 

[FlexAmerican Dynamite]

It's good physical matchup, and it's something different.

You think that until you realize Orton is not going to be cheered over Lesnar and the last thing anybody needs is a heel Orton main eventing another Wrestlemania. Orton being held off this long is a fucking miracle.

 

[ABMorales787]

Normally I hate Bryan Alvarez, but this is 100% spot on. If you care about this debate at all and have ever had ten minutes to listen to anything, you're doing yourself a disservice by not clicking this video...

People don't disagree that Reigns is talented. Hell, he's not even that bad in the ring with the few moves he does. It's just that WWE wants to hotshot him and fans pick up on the fact that they'll have to put up with "Suffering Suckatash" for God knows how long if they stay idle. They know what to expect. It won't be the destructive Roman Reigns they cheered last year, it'll be John Cena 2.0 with long hair. They don't want Reigns because they see he's being changed. As usual, WWE wants to fix what's not broken. They sent him to acting school and then give him cartoony promos instead of him being the quiet killer that made everyone pay attention in the first place.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Normally I hate Bryan Alvarez, but this is 100% spot on. If you care about this debate at all and have ever had ten minutes to listen to anything, you're doing yourself a disservice by not clicking this video...

Skip the first 4 minutes of nonsense and yeah, he's pretty spot on.

 

[Vega]

If the notion that only Average Joes are cheered is true, you know what a successful wrestling company does? It builds the Average Joes as top faces and the big guys as top heels. You'll never be able to book against the fans and times, those who do will go under.

But fortunately that notion isn't true.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

WWE's booking at the end, with The Rock, Rusev, Big Show & Kane all trying to help Reigns get a reaction, proves that they knew what was going to happen. But they didn't care. Vince doesn't care, nobody cares. People will buy Wrestlemania regardless.

The only thing that can save WWE, is Wrestlemania bombing. Big time. Like back in 2003, when they had 500,000 buys. I hope it gets lower than that. Because that's when they will really start caring about what's going on in their company.

 

[Nate DaMac]

I hate this fucking narrative.

The notion that every Bryan supporter or guy who roots for "indie darlings" is some unathletic, undersized, former nerd with an inferiority complex is the stupidest and most ignorant misconception perpetuated by the idiots and apologists on the internet.

Yeah I have to agree. That's some of that dumb ass Kevin Nash shit.

 

[Vega]

WWE's booking at the end, with The Rock, Rusev, Big Show & Kane all trying to help Reigns get a reaction, proves that they knew what was going to happen. But they didn't care. Vince doesn't care, nobody cares. People will buy Wrestlemania regardless.

The only thing that can save WWE, is Wrestlemania bombing. Big time. Like back in 2003, when they had 500,000 buys. I hope it gets lower than that. Because that's when they will really start caring about what's going on in their company.

The real problem begins after Mania when people cancel their subscriptions and nobody buys PPV anymore. With Reigns as the top star, these will be fun times.

 

[L@RISANO]

WWE's booking at the end, with The Rock, Rusev, Big Show & Kane all trying to help Reigns get a reaction, proves that they knew what was going to happen. But they didn't care. Vince doesn't care, nobody cares. People will buy Wrestlemania regardless.

The only thing that can save WWE, is Wrestlemania bombing. Big time. Like back in 2003, when they had 500,000 buys. I hope it gets lower than that. Because that's when they will really start caring about what's going on in their company.

Thing is, if Mania bombs. Reigns will be de-pushed, and Vince will put back Cena on top yet again as normal. Then, he will bring up Mojo Rawley and attempt to push him as Cena 3.0. Rinse and Repeat.

 

[#tamale]

WWE's booking at the end, with The Rock, Rusev, Big Show & Kane all trying to help Reigns get a reaction, proves that they knew what was going to happen.

The more I think about it, the more this makes sense. I just can't believe that nobody in the back didn't stand up say "This helps no one."

Reigns wasn't showcased. Bray, Ambrose, Ziggler and Rusev were treated like shit and afterthoughts. The minute that Philly crowd started cheering for Cesaro, you should have called an audible and changed that match. I don't know how they didn't think that Bryan going out the way he did wouldn't piss of the crowd. The Rumble helped no one.

Instead of seeing the young hungry wrestlers giving it their all for a chance to face Brock at WM and a shot at glory; we get Big Show and Kane. Instead of getting a glory moment for Reigns, he gets unwarranted boos.

I support Reigns fully and want to see him succeed, but does WWE feel the same way?

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I don't enjoy Reigns. He comes off like a nice enough guy but kind of dumb. But he succeeds in life because he is good looking. Not someone I want to root for.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Thing is, if Mania bombs. Reigns will be de-pushed, and Vince will put back Cena on top yet again as normal. Then, he will bring up Mojo Rawley and attempt to push him as Cena 3.0. Rinse and Repeat.

If 'Mania bombs, they'll probably blame that "WCW jobber", Sting, more than Reigns, unfortunately.

However, he must be de-pushed and then pushed back, properly.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

The more I think about it, the more this makes sense. I just can't believe that nobody in the back didn't stand up say "This helps no one."

Reigns wasn't showcased. Bray, Ambrose, Ziggler and Rusev were treated like shit and afterthoughts. The minute that Philly crowd started cheering for Cesaro, you should have called an audible and changed that match. I don't know how they didn't think that Bryan going out the way he did wouldn't piss of the crowd. The Rumble helped no one.

Instead of seeing the young hungry wrestlers giving it their all for a chance to face Brock at WM and a shot at glory; we get Big Show and Kane. Instead of getting a glory moment for Reigns, he gets unwarranted boos.

I support Reigns fully and want to see him succeed, but does WWE feel the same way?

Maybe Vince wants to sink that company and take "his" WWE with him when he's gone. He might think that Triple H is not worthy of just being handed everything he, Vince, was building his entire life.

I can't explain this. Two Rumbles in a row. And in 2013 was a Cena victory. Three Rumbles in a row..

 

[Radical]

The real problem begins after Mania when people cancel their subscriptions and nobody buys PPV anymore. With Reigns as the top star, these will be fun times.

WWE (Vince) shouldn't let it come to that. I know he seems pretty up his own A considering this booking choice but Reigns reaction until the Rumble has been pretty strong but the booking of the eliminations in the Rumble weren't very good.

Anyway, if the reports are true that Network subscriptions are rapidly being cancelled there is no way Vince will not notice that and know that something has to change.

What might actually happen is that Vince will come up with a way to turn the Main Even into a Triple Threat or Fatal 4 Way and have Bryan and Ziggler or Ambrose included.

Maybe they can have Shane O'Mac come back and tell "The Authority" that he still owns part of the company and he can't help but notice how The Authority have neglected the fans. He can say that he changing the Main Event to a Fatal-4-Way because he says THAT is best for business.

Then over the next number of weeks and months they can maybe have some matches and feuds where Superstars compete for those 2 open spots in the Main Event while obviously Brock w Heyman and Reigns dispute the decision but have to live with it.



Honestly, I'm a Reigns fan but I feel really sorry for the guy if WWE goes ahead with just him vs Lesnar for the WWE Title at WM.

I guess fans will tell WWE for sure on Monday but if the reaction remains bad and Network subscriptions go down, WWE will have to add in Bryan and/or Ziggler and/or Ambrose to that Main Event so that they don't lose so many fans.

 

[The_Reptile_]

No. I'm done giving Vince the benefit of the doubt. I'm done believing he'll do ANYTHING right at this point, because he's the entire reason things got this bad in the first place. He should have known things would be this much shat on, and if he's really so much up his own ass to not anticipate people not giving a crap about these particular programs

In fucking PHILLEDELPHIA

Then fuck you, Vince is out of fucking touch and I have zero faith in his ability to book anything. I know it's usually the joke, but I'm now fully convinced that anything good that comes out of WWE these days happens in spite of Vince, and not because of it.

 

[Kris Benwa]

I'm having a hard time understanding why they don't just give the fans what they want. I personally had no problem with Reigns winning but its clear a lot of fans do and why would you want to piss off your fans? I could see if these were people who don't pay for anything but Bryan clearly gets one of the biggest reactions everywhere they go. It seems too easy IMO. Want the fans to spend their money on a product why not give them the product they're asking for

 

[bioshock]

Actually many started cancelling WWE Network just after the Rumble, just search #WWE #cancel on twitter. The cencel page for the network went down because of all the traffic.

It wont be pretty on Raw either.

DB or Ziggler should of won the match, and by hook or crook have them match up against Cena or Rollins at WM31 for the belt, not Lesnar. And then just have Reigns face Rusev for the US title and build up Reigns the natural way.

WWE's biggest problem is they are force feeding what the fans don't want. And I really don't get it. SURE at the end of the day its does add some drama leading into WM31 having the good guy everyone hates Reigns taking on the beast Lesnar, but at the same time some fans are just so sick and tired of seeing what Vince thinks we all want to see shoving his favorites down our throats.

Vince's biggest problem is that wrestling isn't popular and its not growing. Many many fans have been known to become sick of the same old crap and turn away to watch something else, even hardcore fans refuse to watch the current product. Vince just cant afford to get away with doing what ever he likes. If this was the 90s and the MNWs were in full swing this would of never ever happened. Only way Reigns is winning is if he is the most liked or most hated guy in the company. And right now hes only in the middle of the pack.

 

[dman1373]

The more I think about it, the more this makes sense. I just can't believe that nobody in the back didn't stand up say "This helps no one."

Reigns wasn't showcased. Bray, Ambrose, Ziggler and Rusev were treated like shit and afterthoughts. The minute that Philly crowd started cheering for Cesaro, you should have called an audible and changed that match. I don't know how they didn't think that Bryan going out the way he did wouldn't piss of the crowd. The Rumble helped no one.

Instead of seeing the young hungry wrestlers giving it their all for a chance to face Brock at WM and a shot at glory; we get Big Show and Kane. Instead of getting a glory moment for Reigns, he gets unwarranted boos.

I support Reigns fully and want to see him succeed, but does WWE feel the same way?

hell, I was there and whenever reigns came up in any of the video packages he got booed. Booed like he was the most despised heel in the company. Nothing would have allowed for him to win the match and him not get booed.