ROCKAMANIA #2: Who should induct The Rock into the WWE Hall Of Fame?

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

In case you missed the first thread of ROCKAMANIA, here is the link:
http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=271069

I asked you the IWC universe who should The Rock retire with and more than 47% voted for Roman Reigns. My personnal pick would be Triple H but whatever.


Now moving on to the 2nd topic:

Who should induct The Rock into the Hall Of Fame?




Now I know all of you will vote "Stone Cold" Steve Austin because he's the most popular guy on the list and arguably The Rock's greatest rival and one of his best friends.

But is he really worthy of being the one to induct The Rock?

What has Austin done to help Rock's career? Not much.

The wrestler who has done the most to help The Rock would be Mick Foley. Just like Foley had a huge impact in making Orton a star and Hunter a star, he pretty much made the rock THE ROCK in his feud in 98-99.

Mick was one of Rock's greatest opponents/rivals and real life friends.


There's also Vince McMahon, the owner of the company.

Having your owner induct you into the hall of fame is extremely special especially with the relationship and the history that The Rock and Vince have.

There's also, the most obvious choice: The Rock's dad, Rocky Johnson.

Before WM28, Rocky Johnson made these comments:

"I look forward to inducting him one day into the Hall of Fame," Johnson said. "I think he needs to be inducted in, but I don’t make that decision. We all live in Florida so I think it would be the perfect place. Though, again, I don’t make that decision.”



Probably the least likely option in this list would be John Cena.

Cena has been trying to get Rock back for years. He's one of Cena's 3 all time dream opponents (other two being Hogan and Austin) and has mentioned Rock as the greatest of all time on many occasions on WWE TV and off WWE TV.

GOAT Pick: Vince McMahon by far, and I think every true Rock fan would agree. However, he should induct him as "the best ever" or something like that.
If he doesn't, we'll never hear the end of it from Austin marks.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

IMO I think it should be up to the Rock and if he had a choice I think he'd pick his dad. It would probably be the most meaningful moment for the Rock. Which is actually what's most important, plus the fact I highly doubt that Vince would call Rock the greatest ever since he's made it clear that he believes that Austin is the greatest ever. Vince isn't the kind of guy that just wavers on that kind of thing. And I highly doubt he's changed his mind since Austin's induction.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

IMO I think it should be up to the Rock and if he had a choice I think he'd pick his dad. It would probably be the most meaningful moment for the Rock. Which is actually what's most important, plus the fact I highly doubt that Vince would call Rock the greatest ever since he's made it clear that he believes that Austin is the greatest ever. Vince isn't the kind of guy that just wavers on that kind of thing. And I highly doubt he's changed his mind since Austin's induction.

He already called Hogan the G.O.A.T. in the past.

It's not a matter of changing your mind, it's about getting the most money.

Rock wrestling = $$$

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

He already called Hogan the G.O.A.T. in the past.

It's not a matter of changing your mind, it's about getting the most money.

Rock wrestling = $$$

True but he called Hogan the greatest for a LONG time. It took another person that Vince believe was a once in a lifetime star to change his mind. If Vince says Rocks the GOAT now, people are going to laugh it off. Mostly since Rock has done nothing since his return to make that clear. So basically Vince would be admitting that Rock was better than Austin in both their primes, and ONE I don't believe that vince thinks that's true. Two, Vince's ego won't let him. One of the first things you think of when you say Stone Cold Steve Austin (if not the first) is Vince. When you say the Rock, you think promo's or Trips. I don't think Vince would ever call Rock better.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

True but he called Hogan the greatest for a LONG time. It took another person that Vince believe was a once in a lifetime star to change his mind. If Vince says Rocks the GOAT now, people are going to laugh it off. Mostly since Rock has done nothing since his return to make that clear. So basically Vince would be admitting that Rock was better than Austin in both their primes, and ONE I don't believe that vince thinks that's true. Two, Vince's ego won't let him. One of the first things you think of when you say Stone Cold Steve Austin (if not the first) is Vince. When you say the Rock, you think promo's or Trips. I don't think Vince would ever call Rock better.

Typical ignorant Rock hater.

If you don't think The Rock is the G.O.A.T. That's your opinion and I respect it.



Rock hasn't done anything since he came back? Sure he didn't (Big Show wink)

I'll let this graph speak for itself.

 

[Rich the UK WWE Fan 2k14]

The Rock should be inducted by his Dad IMO, too many members of the IWC would complain about it if it was Cena.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

Typical ignorant Rock hater.

If you don't think The Rock is the G.O.A.T. That's your opinion and I respect it.



Rock hasn't done anything since he came back? Sure he didn't (Big Show wink)

I'll let this graph speak for itself.

Okay but again, you give all the credit to Rock. He had ONE HUGE wrestlemania during his prime and that was with "the most popular superstar of all time" (just quoting you there)

And when he comes back he's feuding with the guy who's put up the best buy rates in WWE when it comes to Wrestlemania main events. His name John Cena. And you never give him credit for anything. I know the buy rates would've been awful during those wrestlemania's without Rock right? Oh wait, Cena in the main event has average better numbers as far as buyrates than any other superstar. But it was all the Rock, NOBODY would ever want to see Cena in the main event even though your own graph shows that he's the one they want to see.

Until Rock is booked against someone who isn't Cena and pulls those numbers, no he hasn't proven alot to me. Cena pulled similar numbers with HBK and Trips and others.

Back to my point though, Vince isn't going to call the Rock the greatest superstar of all time, because I truly think he doesn't believe it. You just WANT Vince to say so he can agree with your opinion and put down Austin, but one it won't happen, and two Vince shouldn't induct Rock.

It's about what would be most meaningful to Rock, and I think that would be his dad. But you don't care about WHO should induct him. You care about it making your opinion right. And if Vince says the Rocks the best of all time, you can say the greatest wrestling mind of all time agrees with you. But for that to happen, Vince has to agree with you and I highly doubt he does.

 

[Rollins_The_Future]

Cena inducting Rock? lol ok. I think The Rock will have to pick between his dad and Vince. In my opinion, I think it should be Vince that inducts him, would make the HOF induction extremely special.

 

[Rollins_The_Future]

Okay but again, you give all the credit to Rock. He had ONE HUGE wrestlemania during his prime and that was with "the most popular superstar of all time" (just quoting you there)

And when he comes back he's feuding with the guy who's put up the best buy rates in WWE when it comes to Wrestlemania main events. His name John Cena. And you never give him credit for anything. I know the buy rates would've been awful during those wrestlemania's without Rock right? Oh wait, Cena in the main event has average better numbers as far as buyrates than any other superstar. But it was all the Rock, NOBODY would ever want to see Cena in the main event even though your own graph shows that he's the one they want to see.

Until Rock is booked against someone who isn't Cena and pulls those numbers, no he hasn't proven alot to me. Cena pulled similar numbers with HBK and Trips and others.

Back to my point though, Vince isn't going to call the Rock the greatest superstar of all time, because I truly think he doesn't believe it. You just WANT Vince to say so he can agree with your opinion and put down Austin, but one it won't happen, and two Vince shouldn't induct Rock.

It's about what would be most meaningful to Rock, and I think that would be his dad. But you don't care about WHO should induct him. You care about it making your opinion right. And if Vince says the Rocks the best of all time, you can say the greatest wrestling mind of all time agrees with you. But for that to happen, Vince has to agree with you and I highly doubt he does.

Brother, stop being such a pathetic rock hater. I seen you trolling on pretty much every thread talking trash about the rock.
royal rumble 2013 with rock had the most ppv buyrates for non-wrestlemania ppv since summerslam 2005.
Nothing wrong with vince saying rock is the greatest ever because he could possibly go down as the jordan of wrestling.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

Brother, stop being such a pathetic rock hater. I seen you trolling on pretty much every thread talking trash about the rock.
royal rumble 2013 with rock had the most ppv buyrates for non-wrestlemania ppv since summerslam 2005.
Nothing wrong with vince saying rock is the greatest ever because he could possibly go down as the jordan of wrestling.

I forgot Cena didn't have a big part that night. It's not like it was obvious booking to get to Rock vs Cena. It's not like it was a given that Cena would win the Royal Rumble. I'm not hating on the Rock, infact I've never said that I'd boo the rocks HOF induction, or that he sucks. Without Cena, Rock has never consistently put those numbers up. If you want to say Rock helps, I'd agree but to say the numbers are out of this world because the Rock is there is just moronic, considering the numbers show Cena can do similar numbers against guys who didn't have the drawing power of Rock. It's common sense man.

 

[L@RISANO]

I'd choose Austin to do it.
Maybe its just me, but Austin and Rock are synonymous in WWE, in that they were the Main guys who shaped the Attitude era with their rivalry which was always in the background until their final one-on-one match at WM19.

Also, Austin retired after that match, and the Rock followed soon after, even though he did come back part-time later on.

lMO, I think Austin would be perfect to induct the Rock.

However, I wouldn't put it past a Hollywood Star coming in to induct him like Stallone did for Hogan. Even Austin had Vince induct him personally as well.

 

[Rollins_The_Future]

I forgot Cena didn't have a big part that night. It's not like it was obvious booking to get to Rock vs Cena. It's not like it was a given that Cena would win the Royal Rumble. I'm not hating on the Rock, infact I've never said that I'd boo the rocks HOF induction, or that he sucks. Without Cena, Rock has never consistently put those numbers up. If you want to say Rock helps, I'd agree but to say the numbers are out of this world because the Rock is there is just moronic, considering the numbers show Cena can do similar numbers against guys who didn't have the drawing power of Rock. It's common sense man.

Boo rock's hof induction? Hahahaha wtf? why would you do that? Why would anyone do that. The rock broke many records since he came back. I think rock brock would outdraw anything involving cena. Stop hating on rock he's arguably the greatest ever, admit it. Just because your bias towards rock didn't mean you can't admit it.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

I'd choose Austin to do it.
Maybe its just me, but Austin and Rock are synonymous in WWE, in that they were the Main guys who shaped the Attitude era with their rivalry which was always in the background until their final one-on-one match at WM19.

Also, Austin retired after that match, and the Rock followed soon after, even though he did come back part-time later on.

lMO, I think Austin would be perfect to induct the Rock.

However, I wouldn't put it past a Hollywood Star coming in to induct him like Stallone did for Hogan. Even Austin had Vince induct him personally as well.

No way will any Hollywood star induct The Rock into the Hall Of Fame.

Stallone inducted Hogan because Hogan's popularity in Rocky III led to him getting such a huge role in WWF.

Rock became a star in Hollywood after his WWE career.

In your biggest night of your career, you want someone to put you over like a million bucks, not sure if Austin can do that.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

Boo rock's hof induction? Hahahaha wtf? why would you do that? Why would anyone do that. The rock broke many records since he came back. I think rock brock would outdraw anything involving cena. Stop hating on rock he's arguably the greatest ever, admit it. Just because your bias towards rock didn't mean you can't admit it.

I'm not hating on the Rock, I'm realistic again, Rock has drawn at Mania, I do disagree with you about him being the greatest ever but that's a matter of opinion.

And it wasn't me that said that I'd boo his HOF induction it's the OP of this thread.

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=270987

And btw it would be my bias AGAINST the Rock not towards the Rock. And I'm not bias against the Rock. I'm using logic. Rock drew with big numbers at WM once in his prime against Austin. , Cena in the ME of WM has drawn better buyrates without Rock than Rock has done without Cena. That's just NUMBERS. It's a fact, I'm not taking away from the Rock. I'll admit that he bolsters numbers but saying he's THE REASON is a bit insane since Cena has drawn close to that consistently. I will never say that the Rock doesn't draw. It doesn't make sense. Just like people who call Cena a nothing and he had NOTHING to do with that don't make sense to me.

 

[L@RISANO]

No way will any Hollywood star induct The Rock into the Hall Of Fame.

Stallone inducted Hogan because Hogan's popularity in Rocky III led to him getting such a huge role in WWF.

Rock became a star in Hollywood after his WWE career.

In your biggest night of your career, you want someone to put you over like a million bucks, not sure if Austin can do that.

I beg to differ...
I wouldn't at all be surprised if a Hollywood star inducted the Rock on his personal request at all. It would gain loads of publicity for the WWE as well if such a thing happened and get loads more people to be interested in the WWE at that time.

As for Austin being unable to make Rock look good, again I differ in opinion. If Austin said a few things to put over the Rock, loads of people would be happy and gloat about it for years to come. Austin and Rock embracing on stage would be a Huge moment,lMO and would be remembered for years to come.

 

[InstantAttitude]

Steve Austin.

Two biggest stars of an Era standing side by side at the HOF?
That's something to witness.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

I beg to differ...
I wouldn't at all be surprised if a Hollywood star inducted the Rock on his personal request at all. It would gain loads of publicity for the WWE as well if such a thing happened and get loads more people to be interested in the WWE at that time.

As for Austin being unable to make Rock look good, again I differ in opinion. If Austin said a few things to put over the Rock, loads of people would be happy and gloat about it for years to come. Austin and Rock embracing on stage would be a Huge moment,lMO and would be remembered for years to come.

Rock asking a Hollywood star to induct him into the hall of fame? Lol don't see that happening.

I think Rock will have to pick between his dad and Vince.

F'ck WWE and f'ck wrestling, who the f'ck cares about publicity?
This is about The Rock FINALLY getting his rightful place into the HOF.

I don't think Austin will put over Rock like a Mick Foley would.
Foley could probably call Rock the G.O.A.T. Austin most definitely won't considering Austin might be the G.O.A.T himself.

The nicest thing Austin ever said about Rock is calling him a "good friend".


Sorry, I put Vince, Rocky Johnson and Foley all ahead of Austin

 

[MCMG]

Steve Austin and The Rock had an iconic feud. Austin would be able to induct The Rock in a respectful manner. He could briefly talk about how great The Rock was and what a pleasure it was working with.

It's simple and obvious but it works. Foley isn't a bad choice either. They had a great feud and were a fun tag-team. Foley would be entertaining to say the least but Austin and Rock were just the perfect match. Wrestling fans deserve to see these two in one last moment; both as Hall-of-Famers and men that produced one of the greatest feuds in wrestling history.

 

[The Perfect Max]

I don't understand all the reasoning behind Stone Cold Steve Austin inducting The Rock into the Hall of Fame. The Rock didn't do it for Austin, and they were both a part of that feud. Just my opinion, but I don't understand the reasoning to be fair. The same could be said for Mick Foley. He was arguably the most relevant when teaming with The Rock, at least to a mainstream audience. We know he has history elsewhere, and thus, enter Terry Funk at the Hall of Fame induction. That does not mean I would be against either inducting Dwayne. It would be an awesome moment either way.

My pick is Vince McMahon. Vince was the guy on screen that helped The Rock get over big time early on, whether it was side by side or face to face. The unexpected heel turn was huge, and provided an even bigger face turn. The Rock fronted the company for Vince for a year while Austin was out as well. Remember The Rock's birthday bash on Raw a couple of years ago? Vince made such a big deal, and all signs point towards Vince wanting to induct him.

Those saying his dad, yeah, I can get on board. John Cena? It actually wouldn't surprise me to be honest. Even an outside Hollywood actor could do it. Vin Diesel perhaps, I don't know. I would have said Paul Walker actually, but we all know that is unfortunately no longer a possibility. Hulk Hogan had Sylvester Stallone. Bruno Sammartino had Arnold Schwarzenegger. I don't agree with this, but it's a possibility.

 

[Limitless]

First off The Rock is by far one of the best... That being said, I think The Rock should choose who inducts him. I could actually see The Rocks dad inducting him, and getting a standing ovation.

The Rock generating heat, is pretty lame... considering what he did during the attitude era. He is and will always be a draw and a entertaining guy, whether its wrestling or movies. The guy is money and makes anyone look good in the ring!

 

[No Count Pup]

At the moment, Bruno Sammartino is the most revered wrestler in WWE. It would be the ultimate wrestling honor to be inducted by Sammartino.

Right now the Rock's reputation is that he went Hollywood and prefers acting over wrestling. For the Rock's legacy as a wrestler to be validated without equivocation, he needs the most successful wrestler of all time to include him in the fraternity of the greats. It doesn't matter so much if Vince McMahon, Steve Austin, Hulk Hogan, John Cena, or Mick Foley sing the Rock's praises. They are "sports entertainers" and thus fall short as wrestling purists. Getting the imprimatur from a purist the stature of Bruno Sammartino is akin in to winning a pro wrestling Nobel Prize.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

At the moment, Bruno Sammartino is the most revered wrestler in WWE. It would be the ultimate wrestling honor to be inducted by Sammartino.

Right now the Rock's reputation is that he went Hollywood and prefers acting over wrestling. For the Rock's legacy as a wrestler to be validated without equivocation, he needs the most successful wrestler of all time to include him in the fraternity of the greats. It doesn't matter so much if McMahon, Austin, Hogan, Cena, or Foley sing the Rock's praises. They are "sports entertainers" and thus fall short as purists. Getting the imprimatur from a wrestler's wrestler the stature of Bruno Sammartino is akin to winning pro wrestling's Nobel Prize.

I'll be honest if Bruno inducted Rock that would be like saying he's the greatest ever. If that's your goal, (which I ccl about) Bruno would be the guy. To me hearing Bruno say that Rock was the best would mean much more than Vince saying it. Not that I don't respect Vince, but for someone like Bruno to do that would just be awesome. And I'm not a huge Rock fan.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

I'll be honest if Bruno inducted Rock that would be like saying he's the greatest ever. If that's your goal, (which I ccl about) Bruno would be the guy. To me hearing Bruno say that Rock was the best would mean much more than Vince saying it. Not that I don't respect Vince, but for someone like Bruno to do that would just be awesome. And I'm not a huge Rock fan.

Why would Sammartino who is arguably the G.O.A.T. as well induct The Rock as the G.O.A.T. ?

That makes no sense.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

Why would Sammartino who is arguably the G.O.A.T. as well induct The Rock as the G.O.A.T. ?

That makes no sense.

I don't think he would. I was just saying IF he did it would say ALOT about Rock. It would also be awesome imo, that doesn't mean I think he'd do it or will do it.