ROCKAMANIA #1: Who should retire The Rock?

[Kidpolean]

what match were you watching the previous 2 years? Cena didn't carry The Rock they were equally as bad as each other. The Rock clearly wasn't in "wrestling shape" he would be more then physically able to go but to put on a 30min match infront of a countless 10's of thousands of people in attendance when you've only been in ring a few times in 7 years would take a miracle worker. So what was Cena's excuse? he had been wrestling full time for over a decade at that point and still stunk.

this is all opinion...i actually liked those matches. I love seeing to greats face off. The one at WM28. Was better imo but I honestly dont see why people thought they were so bad.

 

[kadroan]

I would pick Roman Reigns because a win would be huge for his career. However, knowing the WWE, I can see them picking Cena - last person to beat The Rock, proven money making match, plus he's a safer worker than Brock. It'd be their third match like he faced Austin three times

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

It's about a lot of things. Austin left on a loss (personally I don't care about Stone Cold but I know I'm in the minority there). It's about reviving Triple H's and The Rock's rivalry, it's about their careers coming to an end, it's about the true end of the Attitude Era, and it's about not knowing whom Stone Cold would favor given his kayfabe hatred of both men. DTA (Don't Trust Anyone) is in his character so it only makes sense that he'd not call a completely clean match. The intrigue would be the fact that he actually does for the length of it until the very last moments where neither man can muster any offense. This feud would be about so much more than who wins their final match. Neither one of them have to prove to anyone who's better because they've both proven to be equals.

The Rock's beaten Stone Cold at WM. Triple H has beaten Lesnar at WM. For either of them to end their career as a loss to the other is unnecessary. Here's an opportunity to have a draw where it's really useful and uniquely done. Two of pro wrestling's greatest careers ending in a match where their feud finally comes to a head.

Also you have to look at it realistically. Paul Levesque does NOT want his career to end on a loss. So he probably wouldn't agree to that. Dwayne Johnson probably wouldn't mind as much (if his last two WM losses in 2004 and 2013 are any indication) but given his popularity, he's lost enough and paid his dues jobbing to guys that way. So 2 guys that shouldn't lose that match...And neither has to. It writes itself.

Overall it's about all of those things I mentioned. Reviving the Triple H/Rock feud, ending their careers, putting on a more accurate End of an Era match, and the entertainment of Stone Cold's involvement.

I was talking about The Rock's retirement.

I'm not sure this match should be a retirement match for both, Rock and Hunter should not retire together.

Rock and Austin: Yes
Shawn and Bret: Yes
Hunter and Shawn: Yes

Rock and Hunter: Not so much

Hunter isn't Rock's greatest rival and Rock isn't Hunter's greatest rival (maybe he is).

Also, Hunter was never one of Rock's friends.

I think the only way Rock could work a retirement match with Hunter is if Rock is going over especially with what Hunter and Michaels tried to do to Rock in the past.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

why does he need to officially retire anyway he doesn't wrestle, he's already a part timer who's a full time actor, when he gets a Hall Of Fame nod he's done.

He might be a part timer NOW but he's not a part timer like Batista or Brock.

Rock is arguably the best ever.

All I'm saying is just like SCSA, Flair and HBK, The Rock should get a proper retirement / final match

 

[L@RISANO]

If the Rock never returns and WM 29 was his final match, I think that is more than acceptable.
He wrestled injured at the Event and put over John Cena with the World title on the line. Kind of like Austin(who was injured at WM 19) did for him a decade before Austin himself retired never to wrestle again.

If he does return again to wrestle.
My personal preference is a blockbuster Career vs Streak match, the Rock vs the Undertaker.
It would be the kind of feud I would love to see at WM31/32(If Sting vs Taker didn't happen this year, then probably be done next year), and as it did for HBK, it would be a great way for the Rock to go out as he is one of the few viable and believable opponents for the Streak and the Undertaker at Wrestlemania.

If the above doesn't happen, then provided Roman Reigns is pushed correctly, and lives up to the hype and gets to the top, then him retiring the Rock at say, WM32, is also acceptable and a great way for the the Great One to go out by putting over his family member.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

what match were you watching the previous 2 years? Cena didn't carry The Rock they were equally as bad as each other. The Rock clearly wasn't in "wrestling shape" he would be more then physically able to go but to put on a 30min match infront of a countless 10's of thousands of people in attendance when you've only been in ring a few times in 7 years would take a miracle worker. So what was Cena's excuse? he had been wrestling full time for over a decade at that point and still stunk.

Yes, and Cena hasn't been putting on great matches during that time and leading up to it and since then. I mean Cena vs Punk, Cena vs HBK, Cena vs Bryan, Cena vs Orton, and Cena vs Bryan were all just crap :yawn: Rock was clearly the weak link and yes Cena was carrying Rock the whole time, and no it wasn't that bad. Cena is one of the few people who could've made those matches at least watchable. The Rock was terrible, Cena was good, not great (which he would've had to have been perfect to make those matches good/great) but even the best haven't had great match when the opponent is mediocre at best. HBK and Misawa couldn't have pulled much more out of Rock than Cena did. Overall it was a okay as a match, but seeing the Rock blow up as quickly as he did (both times) it was all on Cena, and that's a hard position to be in and I think he did an admirable job.

 

[Rollins_The_Future]

Yes, and Cena hasn't been putting on great matches during that time and leading up to it and since then. I mean Cena vs Punk, Cena vs HBK, Cena vs Bryan, Cena vs Orton, and Cena vs Bryan were all just crap :yawn: Rock was clearly the weak link and yes Cena was carrying Rock the whole time, and no it wasn't that bad. Cena is one of the few people who could've made those matches at least watchable. The Rock was terrible, Cena was good, not great (which he would've had to have been perfect to make those matches good/great) but even the best haven't had great match when the opponent is mediocre at best. HBK and Misawa couldn't have pulled much more out of Rock than Cena did. Overall it was a okay as a match, but seeing the Rock blow up as quickly as he did (both times) it was all on Cena, and that's a hard position to be in and I think he did an admirable job.

Angry cena fan lol.

Look at the names you mentioned.

Cena was always carried in those matches.

Rock did ok in his matches with Cena, but Cena wasn't good enough to carry him.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

Angry cena fan lol.

Look at the names you mentioned.

Cena was always carried in those matches.

Rock did ok in his matches with Cena, but Cena wasn't good enough to carry him.

No, I'm a realist, and I realize to have great matches 95% two people have to be good to great. Cena has been putting on amazing matches as of late. Whether it's on raw vs Cesaro, or Punk(who's best WWE matches were against Cena, or Bryan (who's best match might've been his match against Cena). I can see your point if your talking about the HBK matches, those weren't the best matches of his career. The rest of them, don't do that kind of work with anyone. Punks faces Jericho, Triple H, Undertaker, and every other big name out there. And his BEST matches where against Cena. You want to give him no credit for that, it's okay. But you look insanely ridiculous imo, and you look like nothing more than a Cena hater.

 

[L@RISANO]

Yes, and Cena hasn't been putting on great matches during that time and leading up to it and since then. I mean Cena vs Punk, Cena vs HBK, Cena vs Bryan, Cena vs Orton, and Cena vs Bryan were all just crap :yawn: Rock was clearly the weak link and yes Cena was carrying Rock the whole time, and no it wasn't that bad. Cena is one of the few people who could've made those matches at least watchable. The Rock was terrible, Cena was good, not great (which he would've had to have been perfect to make those matches good/great) but even the best haven't had great match when the opponent is mediocre at best. HBK and Misawa couldn't have pulled much more out of Rock than Cena did. Overall it was a okay as a match, but seeing the Rock blow up as quickly as he did (both times) it was all on Cena, and that's a hard position to be in and I think he did an admirable job.

Also, you forgot to mention, wasn't the Rock injured during the WM29 match also, yet they continued to wrestle for the sake of the crowd?

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

Also, you forgot to mention, wasn't the Rock injured during the WM29 match also, yet they continued to wrestle for the sake of the crowd?

Yeah, I thought WM 29 was better. I think the match was better and that alot of people hate on it because Cena won. The logic behind the match was clear. It looked like each man had studied each other and made adjustments from the year before. It wasn't an all time classic, but it wasn't THAT bad. Cena did a damn good job, not hating on the Rock but clearly Cena was the strong link.

 

[TheOneAndOnlyGOAT]

Yeah, I thought WM 29 was better. I think the match was better and that alot of people hate on it because Cena won. The logic behind the match was clear. It looked like each man had studied each other and made adjustments from the year before. It wasn't an all time classic, but it wasn't THAT bad. Cena did a damn good job, not hating on the Rock but clearly Cena was the strong link.

Just because you're saying "not hating on The Rock" doesn't mean that you're not.

Cena was NOT the strong link, both were ok in those matches.

The second match just sucked mostly because of the predictability and the crowd was dead.

 

[Bythedockofthebay]

Just because you're saying "not hating on The Rock" doesn't mean that you're not.

Cena was NOT the strong link, both were ok in those matches.

The second match just sucked mostly because of the predictability and the crowd was dead.

And just because I don't think he's the greatest of all time doesn't make me one.

 

[AustinHartLesnarHBKTaz80]

THE ROCK vs SHAWN MICHAELS is the ultimate dream match still waiting to happen.

Should be THE final match for both HOFers.